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29psiHybrid
09-15-2004, 11:09 PM
I wanted to clear up some room for an upcoming swap and smooth up my firewall so I decided to do something a little different. This is a reverse mount 90 degree brake setup that is used in alot of Boyd Coddington's cars. It basically puts all brake components under the dash

http://www.picture-at.com/pics/02355.jpg
http://www.picture-at.com/pics/02356.jpg

Sorry for the crappy pics but it's hard to get a good shot of it installed.

Big_Bronze_Rim
09-16-2004, 12:11 AM
Pretty cool and definitely the first time ive seen that on an s-chassis. No more HVAC though. You definitely dont have to worry about turbo to MC clearance anymore due to crappy manifold placement. http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/grin.gif

sideway
09-16-2004, 01:42 AM
Very interesting and very nice!

KenFuji
09-16-2004, 02:40 AM
that is very interesting.

is this going to be a show/track only car? it can be pretty difficult to do some minor brake and clutch maint. on a daily driver. that's for sure. but i can def. see the engine bay looking nice and empty.

DeatschWerks_Dave
09-16-2004, 05:56 AM
Wow, that is pretty cool. I've seen it done on hotrods before but never a 40sx. So I assume the dash is staying off? If not, how are you going to check/fill your fluids?

RDM_II
09-16-2004, 09:49 AM
That is absolutely bad as hell. I commend your efforts on that. *runs out to check clearance under the dash*

Kim_Jong_Il
09-16-2004, 10:02 AM
Revhard can now change their advertising.

"Our manifold is not a completely useless piece of garbage***"

"***if you remote mount all your brake components under the dash"

Seriously, for a ka you could actually buy a cheesy garbage (read: common) manifold and not worry about clearance or heat issues. Though spool would still be a hooker.

2Fass240us
09-16-2004, 10:09 AM
I'd like to see a close-up of that 90* linkage if you get the opportunity.

Looks nice, and should give you significantly more brake system tunability. :thumbup

29psiHybrid
09-16-2004, 10:30 AM
Thanks for the compliments! I will try to get some better pics but my camera is not the best so I don't know how they'll turn out. As far as bleeding/filling the system I am going to take care of that before the dash goes back in and if I do have to mess with it in the future the dash isn't too hard to remove with all the other stuff missing. My goal is to make the interior look stock with the exception the hvac missing (new place for gauges). I am going to be welding on the stock pedal pads as well. All holes in the firewall will be filled and smoothed and I will post pics of that when its done.

Oh and btw this is a street car that gets driven alot (well when it has a motor in it http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/grin.gif)

RDM_II
09-16-2004, 10:42 AM
I had to come back and see that again. I had seriously though about running at least the lines into the car to keep them out of the engine bay, keeping HVAC there's no way to move it all inside like yours but it gives me an idea at least after seeing it. Again, much respect.

The bar has been raised once again.

GabeS15
09-16-2004, 10:46 AM
that is very sweet.

ManoNegra
09-16-2004, 10:52 AM
*Jaw drops to the floor*... That's sick. Props.

2Fass240us
09-16-2004, 01:06 PM
I had seriously though about running at least the lines into the car to keep them out of the engine bay, keeping HVAC there's no way to move it all inside like yours but it gives me an idea at least after seeing it.


You are talking about potentially moving the brake lines that currently reside on the upper part of the firewall to inside the car where the HVAC stuff is?

29psiHybrid: Be sure to post some pictures of your engine bay after you finish it too. I'm sure it'll be blingtacular! http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Nikeboy355
09-16-2004, 01:11 PM
excellent... one of my friends has that done to his EG Civic and his bay looks amazing... I am sure yours will as well... please more pics, this is my second time looking at this also!

RDM_II
09-16-2004, 01:44 PM
I had seriously though about running at least the lines into the car to keep them out of the engine bay, keeping HVAC there's no way to move it all inside like yours but it gives me an idea at least after seeing it.


You are talking about potentially moving the brake lines that currently reside on the upper part of the firewall to inside the car where the HVAC stuff is?




Just run them right through the wiper cowl and down the firewall, then back out underneath the car. I just hate the lines being visible. We'll try some chit like that on your car maybe.

29psiHybrid
09-16-2004, 02:45 PM
Thanks again guys! I was actually going to just run the lines through the firewall to get them out of sight but I decided to get a little more creative and put my new welder to good use. The motor setup is also going to be something very different and I am planning on going for the "wireless engine" look as best as possible. I will be sure to keep you guys posted on what I am doing since there is alot more interest than I expected.

2Fass240us
09-16-2004, 06:50 PM
Just run them right through the wiper cowl and down the firewall, then back out underneath the car. I just hate the lines being visible. We'll try some chit like that on your car maybe.


Gotcha. I am open to any suggestions when you guys come up.




The motor setup is also going to be something very different and I am planning on going for the "wireless engine" look as best as possible. I will be sure to keep you guys posted on what I am doing since there is alot more interest than I expected.


Put that camera to work, mang! http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/smile.gif

mechaniac
09-17-2004, 01:27 AM
talk about hardcore! much props.

haha...who needs a heater, the exhaust runs close enough to the driver! http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/grin.gif

2Fass240us
09-17-2004, 06:23 AM
haha...who needs a heater, the exhaust runs close enough to the driver! http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/grin.gif


Errr...I do, to heat the defrost air. http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/cool.gif

29psiHybrid
09-19-2004, 09:14 PM
Some engine bay pics, nothing too exciting but its what I did today.
http://www.picture-at.com/pics/03061.jpg
No turning back now http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/crazy.gif
http://www.picture-at.com/pics/03062.jpg

flip240
09-19-2004, 09:32 PM
http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/shocked.gif

Kim_Jong_Il
09-19-2004, 09:34 PM
Hurry up, paint that bay and throw the engine in! I want to see the finished product, that is just sick.

asad
09-19-2004, 10:54 PM
Just curious...what do you use for current control with the TIG when working on the car -- do you have a variable hand control, or a button, or what?

Asad

29psiHybrid
09-20-2004, 12:07 AM
Foot control. Made it real fun doing the under the dash stuff.

asad
09-20-2004, 08:56 AM
Foot control. Made it real fun doing the under the dash stuff.



Hahah I bet!

Asad

mattmartindrift
09-20-2004, 07:31 PM
Foot control. Made it real fun doing the under the dash stuff.




good on them knees!...I'm contemplating this setup, or the tilton, or tilton style setup, i'm liking less and less with that master cylinder, my friend had his 4g63 starion's manifold glowing for a good 5 minutes after he parked it and left it running....it would have totally boiled my fluid.

Nikeboy355
09-20-2004, 08:21 PM
(Hands clapping)... it's going to look great!

Barney_240
09-20-2004, 09:05 PM
engine bay space - !!!!!!!!!

sick sick - !

post pictures ASAP after you finish your project .. looking very nice

iHATEstupidity
09-20-2004, 10:14 PM
Good to see people finally trying to meld parts from other markets into this one... you might really want to reconsider the booster/master choice though. Those 90deg master mounts work on hot rods because their dashes are easily removed, as are their windshields, in order to easily access the reservoir.. in this instance, going with a remote reservoir master setup with the cups mounted somewhere more easily accessible might be something you want to consider...

29psiHybrid
09-20-2004, 10:24 PM
iHATEstupidity, thanks! I do not see the lack of accessability as being a problem, I have never owned a car where I needed to repeatedly mess with the master/booster setup. And worst comes to worst, on my setup taking the dash out will set me back 10 minutes at the most. I appreciate the constructive critism though.

More pics to come very soon!

mattmartindrift
09-21-2004, 02:52 PM
Dzus fastener the dash...HOT!

29psiHybrid
09-22-2004, 12:28 AM
More new pics
http://www.picture-at.com/pics/03690.jpg
Dash fits!
http://www.picture-at.com/pics/03691.jpg
No more fuse/relay boxes
http://www.picture-at.com/pics/03692.jpg

RDM_II
09-22-2004, 01:06 AM
Excellent. Since it's going to be pretty gutted anyway, you could easily build a trap door in the dash for quick access. The Isuzu NPR does that with the wiper fluid reservoir, it's mounted in the dash and there's a removable cover to access it.

2Fass240us
09-22-2004, 06:31 AM
No more fuse/relay boxes
http://www.picture-at.com/pics/03692.jpg


Did you ditch the two brackets there? I don't see the airbox one on the frame rail, and I cannot tell about the one on the wheel well because the paint is black...

I ask because I plan on removing mine.

29psiHybrid
09-22-2004, 09:41 AM
Yes I removed both of them before I originally painted it black.

95silvia
09-22-2004, 07:28 PM
dude that is one of the coolest things I have seen. I think this is something I will be doing to my car in the near future. wired the box under the dash 2 years ago and took all the AC stuff out at the same time so that wont be a problem. I was looking to move at least the lines like some one else said but i couldn't see how to do it easy and clean post some more about where you got the parts. Cjex http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/484576

Hugh
09-22-2004, 08:34 PM
Wow, that is a pretty sweet setup. Funny I missed this thread and was thinking of this today in fact. I had never considered moving the master cylinder inside.

What happened to that guy who put his master cylinder the front of the engine bay and ran a shaft like three feet to push the brakes? Is he dead and thats why he stopped posting?


Now if you could just move the steering shaft....

mechaniac
09-23-2004, 01:50 AM
did you have to do much to move the fuse boxes out of the engine bay? like extending wires and such? or was it just unwrapping the harness and rerouting?

Looks excellent btw.

cwdmark
09-23-2004, 09:13 AM
i was going to say something about monitoring the brake fluid like a few people said before, until i seen your pic of the resevoir behind the gauge cluster. it will be really easy to access that, just drop the steering column and take out the cluster. very nice.

can't wait to see it finished. i've never seen anyone go through these extremes to get the brake stuff out from under the hood. this will look completely insanely clean.

RDM_II
09-23-2004, 09:17 AM
did you have to do much to move the fuse boxes out of the engine bay? like extending wires and such? or was it just unwrapping the harness and rerouting?

Looks excellent btw.



Most of the underhood harness comes from inside the car, so you end up shortening a lot of it. The smaller relay box on the passenger side is 90% headlight relays, one is A/C, and IIRC the other is horn. The A/C gets tossed, Silvia headlights or fixed mounts delete the headlight wiring, and the horn can be moved inside easily. The other is a little more tedious, but still easily done with the right skill.
S14 boxes are even easier to move since it's all in one, and more than 95% comes from inside the car.

29psiHybrid
09-23-2004, 11:19 AM
I actually am just mounting the fuse boxes under the battery tray areas to where I can get to them with the wheels turned. I didn't want to get crazy with the body wiring because the motor wiring is going to be a small headache in itself.

180crafter
04-20-2005, 06:28 PM
Ummm... what happened to the photos?

Nikeboy355
04-20-2005, 06:42 PM
how strange...

300sx
04-20-2005, 09:20 PM
WOW hahaha. Those aren't my pics btw.


Edit; this is my new s/n

ivanthieme
04-20-2005, 10:24 PM
what teh.... http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/grin.gif

knate
04-21-2005, 05:27 AM
Wow, Mr. Koolaid is looking pretty clean, this is definitely a different direction http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/wink.gif

2Fass240us
04-21-2005, 08:02 AM
Looks like your pix have been h4x0r3d by the infamous "Train Gang."

thoraxe
04-21-2005, 08:56 AM
I want to do the whole floor-mount pedals and remote resivoir thing... but primarily so I can move my seat and steering and shifter back, not so much to avoid engine bay heat... although it sure would help!


Hmm... a million years ago there was some crazy dude with a turbo Accord right... he had this insaneo equal-length turbo manfold that ran over to the front left where the battery would be...

I wonder if moving the master cylinder and associated components would allow you to develop some really insane tuned exh manifolds...........

300sx
04-21-2005, 10:29 AM
Kool-Aid man got me!

I moved the brakes to make room for this.
http://www.uploadpixels.com/upload/1113667386_uploadpixels.com_new_front.JPG

asad
04-21-2005, 11:04 AM
Hotness. more pics please.

Asad

Fred_Allen_Burge
04-21-2005, 11:27 AM
Mmmmm, makes me happy. It's time to get my car DONE.

allen

StealthmodeS14
04-21-2005, 01:56 PM
Dammit man.....anyway you can rehost the pics? I REALLY want to see pics of this set-up....seems to have Russ all giddy like a schoolgirl.....that intrigues me....and makes me NEED to see pics.....thanks...lol

-Bill

300sx
04-22-2005, 07:16 PM
Took the car up the road today, just in time for a nice hail storm. Runs pretty good for no tune. New pics and dyno numbers coming soon....