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abailey269
12-11-2001, 04:27 PM
As i promised, here are some pics of my Fluidyne Aluminum Radiator. The outlet can be made for either side (KA or SR). The radiator measures 18x26x2 1/2. I had to hand make some aluminum brackets (as you can see in the pic), they were extrememly easy to make and i picked up the piece of aluminum from HomeDepot for $5. You can get the Radiator for around $350. I will tell you who from in a few days (as soon as some things get set up for production).

CUT AND PASTE!!! do not click.
http://abailey269.tripod.com//sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/srfluidyneintakecorner2.jpg
http://abailey269.tripod.com//sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/srfluidynefront.jpg

-Aubrey

P.S. I also saw some pics of an Integra GSR aluminum radiator that some guys were using on one thread here a while back. What were the deminsions on that? Can the outlets be switched?

JDMRICE
12-11-2001, 05:18 PM
looks nice aubrey...what kind of fan you are using???..direct bolt on?

JimStinksAtDorifto
12-11-2001, 06:34 PM
I have a Griffin aluminum race radiator for my SR. I should be installing it in a week or so. It is 26 x 19 x 2.25", like your's so the outlet is on the driver's side for the SR. BTW, it was only $182 from Summit. A couple of friends have them in their rx-7s(which are very sensitive to overheating) and the rad performs great. I was wondering if you remember what radiator hoses you used, like is that a specific car's hoses or did you just look at them at the auto store and guess(top and bottom). Also, the brackets is the exact method I was gonna use. Did you bend them by hand, use a vice, or what?
Thanks

JDMRICE
12-11-2001, 07:06 PM
Drift jim: the radiator that aubrey has is almost a direct drop-in for the coupe/fastback body.
what kind of griffin radiator did you get??.direct drop in?? how many rows?? and what's the part number for the radiator...if you don't mind sharing with me...
thanks

Richard

uiuc240
12-11-2001, 08:07 PM
Well Richard,

If it's the one I'm looking at in the Summit Catalog, it's GRI-1-25222-X. But I guess we'd better wait and see what Jim says. $182 sounds NICE to me too. Oh, and all the Griffin ones are dual row, aluminum, with 1" piping. Yum. Gotta buy a cap though. That's $11.75...not sure if a nifty Nismo cap would fit. http://www.freshalloy.com/

Eric

[ 12-11-2001: Message edited by: uiuc240 ]

JDMRICE
12-11-2001, 08:15 PM
26x19 sounds a little too tall for the 240 isn't it??..the stock size is around 14 3/16 x 25 3/8 for the core not include the end tanks..and this radiator has side tanks, so it sould be all right

and it's for a chevy..so my nismo cap won't fit...oh NO>...guess have to make it my key chain..hahah

fogleroller
12-11-2001, 08:34 PM
how about GRI-1-25241-X ???
it's 27 1/2 in. length x 15 3/8 in. height
http://store.summitracing.com/global/images/prod/large/GRI-1-25241-X.jpg

that sounds closer, but it's a little wider

[ 12-11-2001: Message edited by: fogleroller ]

JDMRICE
12-11-2001, 08:39 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial[/img]quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by fogleroller:
how about GRI-1-25241-X ???
it's 27 1/2 in. length x 15 3/8 in. height
that sounds closer, but it's a little wider

[ 12-11-2001: Message edited by: fogleroller ]<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

don't know if that's too wide or not..but if it's too wide you will have to cut the battery tray to make the radiator fit..
(it's too cold outside..don't want to go outside with my tape measure)..haha

JimStinksAtDorifto
12-11-2001, 10:20 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial[/img]quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by uiuc240:
Well Richard,
If it's the one I'm looking at in the Summit Catalog, it's GRI-1-25222-X. But I guess we'd better wait and see what Jim says. $182 sounds NICE to me too. Oh, and all the Griffin ones are dual row, aluminum, with 1" piping. Yum. Gotta buy a cap though. That's $11.75...not sure if a nifty Nismo cap would fit. http://www.freshalloy.com/
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

You are right, it is 26 x 19 x 2.25 including the side tanks and is styled exactly like Aubrey's Fluidyne. The tanks are actually 3" wide, not 2 1/4. I measured the stock rad and it was 26.5 x ~18.5 including endtanks, so the fit should be pretty much perfect. Aubrey said his is 26x18 so thats near exactly the Griffin's dimensions. Yeh, the Griffins have dual 1" rows and are very well built, especially for the price. $182 is sweet. BTW, that is $182 SHIPPED.

You can use any radiator cap from an auto store for a 1.5" filler neck, thats the only factor. Or just order the Griffin one. My friend is running a Moroso one, so it really doesn't matter, just needs 1.5" neck. Stock pressure is 12-14 if I remember right, so you should get one around there or maybe slightly higher which will raise the boiling point.

BTW, I am pretty sure you have the right part number, just need to make sure it is the *GM/Chevy* version, b/c they have the inlet on the driver's side, while Ford is on pass side. You don't wanna run one of those ghetto pipes across the engine bay. They get in the way and are just another possible area for a leak.

I don't see why people will spend $400+ on a radiator b/c it says greddy/koyo/fluidyne on it. Maybe just because it says "240sx application"..hell, you still have to make it fit. It is not "drop-in" if you have to fab stuff for fitment. Not trying to insult but there are other options besides stuff that says it is specifically for 240sx. Example: the Griffin rad. Another example: The Perma-Cool complete oil cooler setup I got for $88 new from Summit. Includes everything, no need for a Trust/HK$ kit, thanks. I'll use that money on a turbo. I guess I am a baller on a budget tho. http://www.freshalloy.com/ I'm not cheap, I'm resourceful! http://www.freshalloy.com/

[ 12-11-2001: Message edited by: DriftinJim ]

JDMRICE
12-11-2001, 10:25 PM
ah ha...today is my lucky day..i am going to get all my question answer... http://www.freshalloy.com/
oil cooler kit..par number plase??..does it include the sandwitch adapter?? how big is the oil cooler..?..if you don't mind...hahaha..

JimStinksAtDorifto
12-11-2001, 10:36 PM
http://www.jegs.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/ProductDisplay?prrfnbr=27038&prmenbr=76&lastcat=2624

That is the link for the oil cooler kit. It includes the sandwich adapter, like I said "everything". http://www.freshalloy.com/

Go ahead and buy the 450hp kit if you feel the need, but I don't think you will need it considering most ppl aren't even running an oil cooler at all. I think it is a highly neglected performance aspect. Cooler oil=cooler internal temps=higher boost. http://www.freshalloy.com/ Plus, cooler oil obviously helps extend the life of the oil and more importantly, the motor. BTW, if you were to order it from Summit like I did so you have 1 shipment from 1 company to make things easier, the part number is PRM-10189. Summit doesn't even charge for shipping and I got my stuff in like 4 days. They didn't even charge me the $5 oversize charge for the radiator. good stuff.

JDMRICE
12-11-2001, 10:43 PM
i am taking my wallet out and punching numbers now..haha..j/k

i only need the 250 kit cause i have a trust oil pan that holds more oil and has some cooling function, (my engine runs very cold right now..around 85 degree C), wondering if the number will go even lower...

how do they know what car/engine that you have??...or it is one size fits all??

again..thanks for your info

Richard

abailey269
12-11-2001, 10:55 PM
Thanks for the compliments guys http://www.freshalloy.com/

DriftinJim: The part number for the hose i used was (E)71317 from Advanced Auto Parts. I just had to
search around behind the counter to find the right one. After purchasing it i had to cut off the part i needed. I only used about 1/4 of it. The brackets i hand bent, sounds hard but it was very easy. I just put a straight piece on top of my radiator and marked where it needed to be bent. Then covered the piece of aluminum with a cloth, put it in a vice and used a hammer to make a 90 degree turn. Didnt take too long at all.

Good luck with that Griffin Radiator. I hope its not too tall, my radiator cap made it too tall to fit. I had to cut my hood support. The person i got it through is talking with Fluidyne and they are going to make it shorter for the next person who gets it so it will be a direct drop in.

An oil cooler is an execellent idea. How long did the install take? $88 damn. Thats awesome!!

uiuc240: I dont think the Nismo Cap would fit. The cap i got i believe is for chevy/fords and is a bit larger than a nissan cap.

EDIT&gt;&gt; Forgot to respond to the radiator fan question....I am using two Perma Cool electric fans 12" each of them flow 1650 cfm for a total of 3300 cfm with an adjustable thermostat. Cooling problems? I think not.

Later.

-Aubrey

[ 12-11-2001: Message edited by: abailey269 ]

JimStinksAtDorifto
12-11-2001, 10:56 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial[/img]quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Tangkai127:
how do they know what car/engine that you have??...or it is one size fits all??
again..thanks for your info
Richard<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

The sandwich adapter is universal and it comes with universal fittings(or a series of) so that it can fit any thread from any motor. No problemo.

I really want to find an oil adapter block so I can plug in an oil pressure and temp gauge, eventually. It seems all the blocks I've seen use AN fittings, which are nice but pricey for me, atm.

JimStinksAtDorifto
12-11-2001, 11:04 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial[/img]quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by abailey269:
Thanks for the compliments guys http://www.freshalloy.com/

DriftinJim: The part number for the hose i used was (E)71317 from Advanced Auto Parts. I just had to search around behind the counter to find the right one. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Awesome, thanks for the part number. Did you just use the stock 240 lower rad hose? Good call on the brackets, thats what I was expecting. P1mp fan setup. We will have to get together since P'cola and Mobile are relatively close. http://www.freshalloy.com/

abailey269
12-12-2001, 12:17 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial[/img]quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by DriftinJim:


Awesome, thanks for the part number. Did you just use the stock 240 lower rad hose? Good call on the brackets, thats what I was expecting. P1mp fan setup. We will have to get together since P'cola and Mobile are relatively close. http://www.freshalloy.com/<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

No problem. Thanks for the compliment. Mobile? Did you mean Atlanta? You should come to Atlanta early next year, our group up here is always going to track events. Greaser, Shawn Schembri (Sp?), Duron Davis, and many others have come up to race with us. I think you would have a blast.

-Aubrey
www.240sx.org/atlanta (http://www.240sx.org/atlanta)

JimStinksAtDorifto
12-12-2001, 03:33 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial[/img]quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by abailey269:

Mobile? Did you mean Atlanta? www.240sx.org/atlanta (http://www.240sx.org/atlanta[/URL]<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>)[/QB][/QUOTE][/url]

Man, my reading comprehension has really fallen off...and I was in gifted classes, too! http://www.freshalloy.com/

12-12-2001, 07:47 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial[/img]quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Tangkai127:

i only need the 250 kit cause i have a trust oil pan that holds more oil and has some cooling function, (my engine runs very cold right now..around 85 degree C), wondering if the number will go even lower...
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Run an oil thermostat...that way your engine won't take forever to warm up, and you only use the oil cooler when you actually need it.

Asad

fogleroller
12-12-2001, 09:16 AM
DriftinJim ,

i would really like to see some pictures of that setup and install if you can.

-john

JDMRICE
12-12-2001, 11:36 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial[/img]quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by asad137:


Run an oil thermostat...that way your engine won't take forever to warm up, and you only use the oil cooler when you actually need it.

Asad<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

oil thermostat....where can i put it?
info please Asad

abailey269
12-12-2001, 07:13 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial[/img]quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by DriftinJim:


Awesome, thanks for the part number. Did you just use the stock 240 lower rad hose? Good call on the brackets, thats what I was expecting. P1mp fan setup. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yup. Stock lower Rad hose.

-Aubrey

**DONOTDELETE**
12-12-2001, 07:33 PM
where do people get the pipes from radiator to engine on a KA radiator to the SR? is there someone that sells them or is it all custom?

id like to find a cheap but good quality radiator for my sr swap, but i dont know where to look!?

abailey269
12-12-2001, 07:51 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial[/img]quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by 240SilviaX:
where do people get the pipes from radiator to engine on a KA radiator to the SR? is there someone that sells them or is it all custom?

id like to find a cheap but good quality radiator for my sr swap, but i dont know where to look!?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


Most just go to an auto parts shop and find a hose that goes across nicely. Yury ( www.heavythrottle.com (http://www.heavythrottle.com) ) used a different method on mine....Two J bends and a nice shiny (what looks to be) chrome plumbing pipe from home depot. Take a look at the pic:

CUT AND PASTE!!!do not click......
http://abailey269.tripod.com//sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/srtokaradiatorhose.jpg

I got a aluminum radiator and if anyone wants this--its thiers for $15 plus shipping.


the stock radiator may be fine if it doesnt have a lot of crap stuck in it and you are able to flush all the air out of your coolant system. SR and KA's alike are very tempermental. You need to get a very strong radiator fan (some use electric and some do fine with stock, but most swaps dont have everything you need to put the factory fan shroud and fan on making electical your only option).

Later.

-Aubrey

JDMRICE
12-12-2001, 10:11 PM
want to make this question a new topic, but i figure it will be better to fit all info in one thread.

my question,
does anyone know where i can get oil thermostat with 10 AN fittings?..the perma-cool one is NPT port, so it will be easier for me to get the 10AN fitting so i don't have to buy more fittings..

anyone have anyinfo on the B&M one??..do you guys know what size it is??..it's not listed on their site http://www.bmracing.com/noflash/ or it's listed but i can't find it

thanks

**DONOTDELETE**
12-13-2001, 12:08 AM
The oil cooler thermostat (http://www.jegs.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/ProductDisplay?prrfnbr=27058&prmenbr=76&lastcat=2285)

The thermostat simply goes in the lines to the oil cooler. At cool oil temps (when first starting in the morning), the thermostat is open - oil heading towards the oil cooler just U-turns and goes back to the engine. Once the engine warms up, the thermostat closes, making the oil go through the cooler.

These oil coolers are quite reasonably-sized; it shouldn't be hard at all to find some space in the front of the car for one.

BTW, many RX-7 guys (mainly 2nd generation guys) have been running the Griffin radiator - some with 400+ horsepower cars, with NO cooling problems. Rotary engines put out a LOT of heat - if it works on a high horsepower RX-7, it should do great on a KA or SR motor.