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mamaboy
11-27-2004, 10:06 PM
Does anybody know who or how I can get this car shipped to America?

JonCarson
11-28-2004, 01:54 AM
It will be expensive, and difficult otherwise as well.

I've heard that some Japanese mafia (yakuza) will try to "convince" anyone against shipping those cars out of Japan.

If I had the money, I'd bring one over too. I love KPGC10.

MikeSable
11-28-2004, 03:13 PM
1. Buy one in Japan.
2. Put it on a boat.
3. Bring it through customs with Box 1 checked on the HS-7 and Box E checked on the 3520.
4. Drive.

It's old enough so you avoid the hassle of legalization and whatnot. NHTSA exemption is 25 years old, EPA is 21.

You do realize though that good condition REAL KPGC10 GT-R will probably run you upwards of $75k just to purchase, right?

Here (http://page6.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/f29605721) is a KPGC110...the next generation after the KPGC10, going for ~$82k. And they're less valueable.

For comparison, a shoddy GT-R clone (like this (http://page10.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/m7803973) one) is going for almost $5k.

mamaboy
12-01-2004, 07:09 PM
I didn't realize how expensive they were. A body shop that I drove past had one.....so that was why I was inquiring about shipment. I think I'm going to drop by.

MikeSable
12-02-2004, 04:25 PM
It was probably just a 510. They're very similar unless you have a lot of eye time to a KPGC10. And like I said...clones are cheap. You can easily buy and bring in a regular Skyline of the same era for $10k or less. But why would you want to? The only thing that makes the early GT-R's special is the heritage and the motor...neither of which your average clone will have.

Five10PacksDE
12-02-2004, 05:41 PM
I agree with Mike240sx. It is a sick car and I love it, but it would be too much trouble to bring it over, unless you had the money. Not everyone likes the look, but the 240z and 510 has plenty of aftermarket here, even though most the stuff actually might be the same. Stuff for that s20 engine would be $$$. There are plenty of newer engine kits for 510. I would like to see one here in america though.

mvargas
12-02-2004, 06:27 PM
I have a KGC10 over here in the USA, and trust me it is not just
a 510. ( I also have one of them ).

My car is just a GTR clone but I will do a RB26dett swap
next year.

Here is a pict. of my car.

marco vargas http://sr20store.com/projectcars/IMG_0643%5B1%5D.jpg

White_240sx
12-02-2004, 11:49 PM
Hawtness....I always thought a long nose conversion + gtr flares & protec lip on a vc10 would be pretty pimp.

M_TYPE_X
12-04-2004, 11:23 AM
I've heard that some Japanese mafia (yakuza) will try to "convince" anyone against shipping those cars out of Japan.




They'll teach j00 some "love" for Japan's heritage. http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/ooo.gif

mamaboy
12-08-2004, 11:53 PM
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mamaboy
12-08-2004, 11:54 PM
I have a KGC10 over here in the USA, and trust me it is not just
a 510. ( I also have one of them ).

My car is just a GTR clone but I will do a RB26dett swap
next year.

Here is a pict. of my car.

marco vargas


hahahhaa, that's the car I saw. my mom has a store right over the wall from your guy's store. i love the that green 510 you guys have as well i think i saw a 240 as well.....i always see it when i drive buy your garage.

circusmagic
12-11-2004, 11:05 PM
are there any other oldschool skyline owners in the usa? i'm a owner of a 77 gc210...skyline japan

darthnismo
12-09-2005, 03:39 PM
Paul Newman in near mint condition. It's only twenty years old though, not quite "old school". http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

wperdigon
12-15-2005, 09:03 AM
I have a KGC10 over here in the USA, and trust me it is not just
a 510. ( I also have one of them ).

My car is just a GTR clone but I will do a RB26dett swap
next year.

Here is a pict. of my car.

marco vargas http://sr20store.com/projectcars/IMG_0643%5B1%5D.jpg



wow - i would never imagine that the older skylines were so expensive - but this car is a nice looking car! great pic!

cardriver
12-15-2005, 09:58 AM
yes marco very nice car.
i hope you know there was some idiot with an r33 at the shine street meet this year that was looking at your car and he looks in the engine bay and says...

"blah its just stock" then walks away.

can you take his r33 away from him. http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

domekpgc10
12-27-2005, 08:11 PM
Hello All
I am new member of Old Japanese Retro Skyline Lover
I am from Thailand, I have KGC10 2000GT-R VERSION and 200sx I strongly agree with marco vargas that it is not justa 510. Skyline is better than that long historical story.KPGC10 Won 50 race in Japan 1971...Japan called
VICTORY 50 and the real name is "Hakohsuka GTR" very famous, very expensive...Kpgc10 is Number 1 in Japan.
If you have a change to own one,you will love it...for sure
I am not recommend marco vargas to swap rb26 into KGC10
because this car is very rare and very hard to find...
This car is classic...
The problem is Inter coller,It is very hard to put in KGC10, no room for that...and you may cut something out...Please Do'not destroy your treasure...
I have Question..How much KGC10 import to USA?
Thank

Nismospek
01-04-2006, 09:38 AM
what exactly do they mean about clone? is it not a real
gtr?

mvargas
01-04-2006, 09:48 AM
GTR's came with the S20 engine, my car came with
L6 2.0 single over head cam.

mvargas

cardriver
01-04-2006, 09:56 AM
GTR's came with the S20 engine, my car came with
L6 2.0 single over head cam.

mvargas



Marco can well since you spent $$$ on the car what are the odds you will do the same to grab an S20? http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/grin.gif also seriously think you can do something about that idiot that talk crap about your car? http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/tongue.gif anyways again very nice car. but is your L series really a 2.0? i thought it was larger? and i thought the L20 was in the 510 as a 4cyl? can you shed some light on this? i thought it may of been L24 or L28. i just got lost when you said L6 2.0...

Nismospek
01-05-2006, 09:18 AM
so the only thing that makes it a clone is the fact that
it came with a different engine? when the car was sold
it was sold as a gtr right?

MikeSable
01-05-2006, 10:45 AM
The L series came in 2.0 as an I6 in addition to the I4 in the 510. Technically, the 4-cylinder is a "L20b."

And no, the "GTR Clones" were sold as regular C10 Skylines (with L-series motors) that people put GT-R badges, flares, etc on. Very similar to the American trend of making clones of limited production muscle cars. A real, S20-equipped, KPGC10 (or KPGC110) Skyline GT-R will run you upwards of $75k in Japan.

cardriver
01-05-2006, 11:23 AM
i know the L20b was a 4 but what i want to know is what the hell is in marcos car. it looks like an L24 or 28 or 26?. Marco?

mvargas
01-05-2006, 12:08 PM
My car came with the 2.0 L6 but the engine was bad!!
so I did a 2.8 short block with the 2.0 head.

mvargas

cardriver
01-05-2006, 12:31 PM
My car came with the 2.0 L6 but the engine was bad!!
so I did a 2.8 short block with the 2.0 head.

mvargas




Thank you. can i drive your car? ill buy a gasket or something http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/grin.gif you dont know me but my friend albert came to you one day with a bolt stuck in the his head. he over torqued one of the cam tower bolts when installing RAS http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/rolleyes1.gif . white s13 fastback.

imported_Brian_
01-05-2006, 03:41 PM
Here is the basic breakdown for the C10 series.

The first were the four door GT's. Then the GT-R came out in '69. The two doors were introduced as '71 and '72 models. There were three levels. The lowest was the GT. These came with the 2 liter L20 with a single downdraft carb and four speeds. The next was the GT-X. These had improvements in refinement along with the drivetrain. These had reclining bucket seats with headrests, factory power windows, AM/FM radio, and rear defroster. They still had the L20 but with twin SU carbs and a five speed. The GT-R actually had less ammenities. They had non-reclining bucket seats, manual windows, no radio at all, the tachometer read up to 10k, and the front windshield was completely clear as opposed to the light blue tint in the GT & GT-X. As for the drivetrain, it had the S20 twin cam engine and five speed. They also had R190 LSD diffs as opposed to the R180 of the others. They also had rear sway bars from the factory, the others did not. The rear spoiler and flares were factory on the 2 door GT-R's only. Both the 4 door and 2 door GT-R's had different grilles from the non GT-R versions. And of course the vin number is different. GT-R's had a "P" in the chassis designation. The 4 doors are PGC10, the 2 doors are KPGC10. The non GT-R's are GC10 and KGC10. There are some other subtle differences but this pretty much covers most of it. Most Skylines have been turned into "clones" by now. This means they have the GT-R badges and the wing and flares. Let me know if you have any other questions.

Brian

Johann
01-06-2006, 09:36 AM
There were also a very few European versions of the GC10 with lefthand drive.
The designation of these models was 2000GT(GLC10) and 2400GT (HGLC10), no Skyline.

Engine's were L20A 120 bhp and L24 130 HP using a one dual stage carburator.

HashiriyaS14
01-13-2006, 12:34 PM
Honestly, I'd have no problem with a "clone".

Ideally, I'd have a real KPGC10 with a blue or green-top Nissan motorsports S20, but unfortunately I don't have $100k to drop on one.

The L-powered coupes are much more attainable though. I'd toss an L28 with the 3.1 stroker in there, Mikuni side-drafts, and call it a day.

I think the sedans are fantastic looking too, when done correctly.

I've never been a huge fan of the Kenmaris (i.e. KPGC110), but I'd still take one if someone gave it to me, lol.

jjkamikaze
03-10-2006, 05:46 PM
hey guys i found this tread while searching on goodle. my wife and i have been wanting to import a c10 skyline to the us. is the chassis differant on the base model or can all the suspension and drivetrain from a gtr swap in? i dont car if it is a busted up base model i just really want one. i have an exporter searching for one and my wife and i are going back to japan soon to hand pick one.
oh and they are not that pricy, they cost around 2,000,000-3,000,000 yen or $20k-$30k.

kenzman
06-16-2006, 12:35 PM
anyone got a good link to some specs on these classic skylines? I love the looks of both the Suka and the ken/mary and would like get one or the other. Since they are all well over 25years of age getting one to the US and having it road legal would be easy. Just need a honest seller or car scout in japan. I was looking at getting another classic nissan and wanted something outside of the Z/510... was looking at a 1200/B110 but would much rather get a skyline. :)

theres a ken/mary on ebay right now.. so tempting but i want more info on the cars.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1974-Nissan-Skyline-GTX-2000-KEN-MARY-RHD_W0QQitemZ4647868494QQihZ002QQcategoryZ6392QQss PageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

imported_Brian_
06-17-2006, 10:41 AM
What exactly would you like to know? There are quite a few choices. You would first need to decide on what you want. A Hakosuka or a Ken & Mary. Then, 2 door or 4 door. And of course your specific budget is a factor. A decent 2 door KGC10 like mine will run about $15k by the time you get it here. The drivetrain is basically Z car, so parts for that are easy enough. The body is where you will want to focus. Finding replacement panels will be hard and expensive, so getting the cleanest possible car is the best way in my opinion. Let me know if you have any other questions.

Brian

kenzman
06-17-2006, 11:40 AM
knowing the drive is the same as the Z is VERY comforting. I would want the coupe and getting a "GTR clone" would be just fine as long as it was tasteful. Like all old nissans/datsuns rust would be my biggest worry. I'm leaning more to the ken&mary ... i still cant believe how different the 2 cars look. I like the very classic look of the hakosuka but i still think i would spend most of my time telling stupid people its not a 510! :P Thanks for all the info. I would love to see some pics of your ride too Brian!

imported_Brian_
06-19-2006, 12:03 AM
Unfortunately, most of my early pics including the build were lost when my house was broken into and computer stolen. I do have some from a photo shoot earlier this year.
http://album.hybridz.org/data/500/medium/right_1.JPG
http://album.hybridz.org/data/500/medium/rear_1.JPG
http://album.hybridz.org/data/500/medium/left_1.JPG
http://album.hybridz.org/data/500/medium/in_shop_1.JPG
http://album.hybridz.org/data/500/medium/crew_2.JPG
http://album.hybridz.org/data/500/medium/bay.JPG
http://album.hybridz.org/data/500/medium/towing.JPG
http://album.hybridz.org/data/500/medium/mag_6.jpg

This was for a magazine called "Lightening". I have yet to have it fully translated, so I'm not sure what all is said. If you look up pics from last years Japanese Classic Car Show you will find others.

Brian

kenzman
06-19-2006, 03:15 AM
ohh man thats cherry. I just may change my mind to the hakosuka if they can look that good :)

detroadster
06-20-2006, 09:36 PM
Hey Brian, did you decide to keep the car afterall?:D

imported_Brian_
06-20-2006, 11:15 PM
It was almost sold, but the deal fell apart. I am happy to say I still have the car. I have been working on getting the new motor together and finally get the car running under it's own power again. In the midst of the work on the '71, I have now purchased a '74 Ken & Mary too. It should be on it's way over shortly. This one is pretty stock but very clean and straight. I will be converting it into a GT-R clone as well. I am very focused on getting the '71 ready for the JCCS in late September. If all goes well, I may be able to take both of them to the show.

Brian

kenzman
06-22-2006, 12:17 AM
Make sure to post the ken&mary here when you get it :) When im ready to buy my classic skyline im going to have to bug you alot. How much did the hakosuka "sell" for when you tried? if you dont mind telling.

bubner421
05-07-2011, 11:09 PM
im new to all this stuff and looking into getting a datsun 510 because the gc10 is expensive, so i was woundering if there were kits to convert the front end and or back end of the 510 to look exactly or very similar to the gc10? anyone with any input let me know please.

thank you

da mayor
05-08-2011, 12:16 AM
http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/221850_1877316966194_1039320461_32122783_49578_n.j pg

this was at englishtown, NJ for Spring Nationals....

Lovenpain
12-03-2011, 05:58 PM
Holy cow! Been a while I have seen one of those! More pics please!!