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ZENKI_KONG
12-18-2001, 08:46 PM
jus wanted to see what's the next wave of performance/visual mods for the 240sx, because trends and tendencies change, and maybe some of u guys have a read on what u think people are gonna start doing more to be unique within the 240 community http://www.freshalloy.com/

KAkiller
12-18-2001, 08:51 PM
Does this acctually mean the Injen Fad is over?

White_240sx
12-18-2001, 08:53 PM
I think the SR hype is in full force right now. And perhaps the beginning of the S15 front end conversion hype.

ZENKI_KONG
12-18-2001, 09:12 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial[/img]quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by White240sx:
I think the SR hype is in full force right now. And perhaps the beginning of the S15 front end conversion hype.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

hey, i like the S15 conversion, but i hope it doesn't get affordable and catch on, because that will be the demise of the 240sx pretty much. silvias are the ford mustang of japan it seems to me, there are tons, so custom mods don't really matter, but over here, 240sx's are either treated like treasure or trash( look to S13's for example) and between wild body mods like that and people who don't care about em, what's left in a few years. dang parts are gonna be hard to find, lol

Shin
12-18-2001, 09:14 PM
The next thing will be S15 REAR ends on S13s hehe.

**DONOTDELETE**
12-18-2001, 09:21 PM
Or we could start swapping Civic/Integra front ends on our cars like they swap S14/S15 fronts on theirs. http://www.freshalloy.com/

**DONOTDELETE**
12-18-2001, 09:41 PM
RALLY!

**DONOTDELETE**
12-18-2001, 09:48 PM
I was just thinking about that one today, when is someone gonna do an s15 rear end converson?

Black2Forty
12-18-2001, 10:01 PM
Rally would be awesome. I drove on some trails before i got my springs and shocks installed, havnt had that much fun with my clothes on before. http://www.freshalloy.com/

**DONOTDELETE**
12-18-2001, 10:48 PM
Rims will get bigger and bigger in the future.

Why go 20" when you can got 30"?

http://www.speedsociety.com/Gunner1/carpics/blingx2.jpg

NissanFiend
12-19-2001, 12:51 AM
i agree with white240sx. the sr hype is in full effect and the s15 front conversion is catching on. i just hope people dont dump their money into something they know nothing of. next thing.. suicide doors?? how bout fairlady-80 or z-80?? sr powered Z (i think that is a downgrade to the z)..... just throwing suggestions out..

NOSTALGIC_HERO
12-19-2001, 05:08 AM
yep, the S13/14 reign will continue until the S16 is brought over, where a bunch of new and old people members will surface.

very nice thought

the next thing that i think will be up for the S13/14 will be the engine swaps from even newer nissans (like the QR engines and the new RWD 4 cylinders that nissan has up its sleeves...

AceInHole
12-19-2001, 07:31 AM
single wiper "conversions" and indiglo gauges.... http://www.freshalloy.com/
and TURBO KA's now that everyone's swapping http://www.freshalloy.com/
(KA's dirt cheap... yummy)

StealthmodeS14
12-19-2001, 08:47 AM
Here's one....240sx AWD....nice. It'll of course never happen, but who knows. After reading the latest issue of SCC which had a twin engine (both which were turbocharged) Hyundai Tiburon that can do 10 second e/t's all day long, I'm convinced anything is possible http://www.freshalloy.com/

ADAM HUTCHINSON
12-19-2001, 08:52 AM
240sx's with EMS since that is the next step in evolution...these "chips" and add on systems are all crap...

**DONOTDELETE**
12-19-2001, 09:03 AM
Maybe I'm the only one, but I find the s14 with s13 front-end conversion absolutely amazing! There was a picture of one posted recently. Damn, it looked GREAT!

sil40sx
12-19-2001, 09:29 AM
i dont really think wanting to make your car faster is necessarily a fad or trend.

**DONOTDELETE**
12-19-2001, 11:51 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial[/img]quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by schneiddog:
i dont really think wanting to make your car faster is necessarily a fad or trend.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Well,
It could be a trend. It has been happening ever since The Model 'T'... And is still continueing today.
So that classifies as a Trend, just has not stopped evolving.

AKADriver
12-19-2001, 01:03 PM
My VW is leaps and bounds ahead of my Nissan in the speed department http://www.freshalloy.com/

But there's not much comparing a crusty CA20E to a modded VR6...

The tables will turn again someday... whatever the next trend is, I'm sure it won't be modding S12s like mine, so I'm in the clear, I can stay all UnDeRgRoUnD

Papa Lazarou
12-19-2001, 01:03 PM
How about Silvia Pick Up Truck conversions??? http://www.freshalloy.com/

http://300zx.co.uk/200sx/rides/teamcapsule/silvia-pickup.jpg

**DONOTDELETE**
12-19-2001, 01:13 PM
BTW, I was being sarcastic with the VW thingy.... See NiteKids post on the 10 sec 240sx......

I love VWs! http://www.freshalloy.com/

AKADriver
12-19-2001, 01:34 PM
I just read it... man I need to check this forum more often, that was funny!

BTW I would have bought an S14 instead of a GTI, even considering the difference in speed, but the S14 cost $1000 more a year to insure... go figure.

**DONOTDELETE**
12-19-2001, 01:44 PM
What's the year of your GTI???

**DONOTDELETE**
12-19-2001, 01:48 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial[/img]quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by NC_S14:
jus wanted to see what's the next wave of performance/visual mods for the 240sx, because trends and tendencies change, and maybe some of u guys have a read on what u think people are gonna start doing more to be unique within the 240 community http://www.freshalloy.com/<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I thought about chopping the top down about 2-3 inches. oops, now everyone will do it........ http://www.freshalloy.com/ j/k. I do think it would look tight, though.

AKADriver
12-19-2001, 01:51 PM
1996. Late 1996, so I have a real glovebox, OBD2 though http://www.freshalloy.com/

You can see it here:
My GTI (http://members.home.net/akadriver1/images/gtifirstphotos/)

It's now higher off the ground since those pictures were taken the day I bought it, I had to return the car to stock height to pass Maryland's safety inspection.

**DONOTDELETE**
12-19-2001, 01:53 PM
I just don't understand why is the s14 more expensive to insure than the GTI... http://www.freshalloy.com/

AKADriver
12-19-2001, 01:58 PM
me either. I had to ask my insurance agent twice to make sure she hadn't misspoken. The dollar value of both cars is the same, it must be the RWD... http://www.freshalloy.com/

**DONOTDELETE**
12-19-2001, 02:03 PM
RWD or not, the GTI is a 6-banger. It should be more expesive. Anyway, good for you! I'm pretty sure you can have lots of fun with that GTI http://www.freshalloy.com/

s13SRmadness
12-19-2001, 02:05 PM
the sr thing may be a fad, but it's also a vastly superior engine. the hype is there for a reason. s15 front ends look damn good. (not my thing but they're nice) people with ka's should just stop whining. it would be nice if there was a forum that catered to the sr 240 owner. i stilled loved my 240 when it was auto and ka, but i don't enjoy sifting through topics dedicated to the newest ka intake that's going to buy you 3 hp. http://www.freshalloy.com/

12-19-2001, 02:08 PM
This, like many other things, is highly debatable. Please don't try and pass off your own personal preferences and opinions as fact, because there are surprisingly few facts in the automotive world, and most of the other stuff that floats around is based solely on personal bias.

Asad

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial[/img]quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by s13SRmadness:
it's also a vastly superior engine. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

**DONOTDELETE**
12-19-2001, 02:19 PM
Supercharger. Positive displacement roots style supercharger for mild boost for cheap (sub $750)

Ford SuperCoupe SC, custom mounting and pulleys. Bolt on installation.

More details to follow soon.

Mike
92 LE COUPE

s13SRmadness
12-19-2001, 02:26 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial[/img]quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by asad137:
This, like many other things, is highly debatable. Please don't try and pass off your own personal preferences and opinions as fact, because there are surprisingly few facts in the automotive world, and most of the other stuff that floats around is based solely on personal bias.

Asad

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

i see your point. if i told everyone that my 1 liter 3 cyl was a vastly superior engine you would not have said the same thing. you would have told me that i was nuts, and of course the ka is better. saying that's only my "opinion" is a ka owners only defense. i cannot offer irefutable proof so my position will have to remain just that- my position. http://www.freshalloy.com/

mrmephistopheles
12-19-2001, 02:39 PM
I'd like to think swapping the VQ35DE from the 350Z will be the next big thing.. Once people start wrecking them and engines become available. Around 260 HP in the 240 would be nice, esp NA.. can't wait for turbo versions of that engine.

Kevin

s13SRmadness
12-19-2001, 02:42 PM
can't wait for that car to come out! i hope nissan caves in and makes it turbo within it's first few years! as for swapping it into a 240- why? http://www.freshalloy.com/ there's already sr's rb's or z32 vg's tt. the new vq would just be way more expensive w/ less aftermarket support.... http://www.freshalloy.com/

NissanFiend
12-19-2001, 05:17 PM
what about rotary powered 240s?? has anyone ever tried this and what do you guys think of it??

**DONOTDELETE**
12-19-2001, 05:44 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial[/img]quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by NC_S14:


hey, i like the S15 conversion, but i hope it doesn't get affordable and catch on, because that will be the demise of the 240sx pretty much. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I thought lack of sales led to the demise of the 240sx, but I guess I can see it your way to.
http://www.freshalloy.com/

StealthmodeS14
12-19-2001, 05:57 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial[/img]quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by s13SRmadness:


i see your point. if i told everyone that my 1 liter 3 cyl was a vastly superior engine you would not have said the same thing. you would have told me that i was nuts, and of course the ka is better. saying that's only my "opinion" is a ka owners only defense. i cannot offer irefutable proof so my position will have to remain just that- my position. http://www.freshalloy.com/<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


As much as I'd love to hear your reasons for stating that the Sr is "vastly superior", I think I'll pass for the sake of yet another endless Sr vs. Ka battle.

In my opinion, I think a statement like that is utterly naive and quite simply pointless in saying.....whooops......I must have left the "defenses" up.

I'm sure others will agree.....and not just us "Ka" owners either.

StealthmodeS14
12-19-2001, 06:13 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial[/img]quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by s13SRmadness:
the sr thing may be a fad, but it's also a vastly superior engine. the hype is there for a reason. s15 front ends look damn good. (not my thing but they're nice) people with ka's should just stop whining. it would be nice if there was a forum that catered to the sr 240 owner. i stilled loved my 240 when it was auto and ka, but i don't enjoy sifting through topics dedicated to the newest ka intake that's going to buy you 3 hp. http://www.freshalloy.com/<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Whining?????...yet another sign of your ignorance.

In regards to your demise of reading posts about an intake getting the 'Ka' owners an extra 3 hp........are you forgetting that the Sr20de (non-turbo) is in the Sr family as well. I'm pretty sure you won't get much more horse power from and NA Sr with just the simple install of an intake.

Your post seemed to have gone a couple of different directions when trying to support the "superiority" of the Sr....not wanting to start an argument...just preturbs me how some can be so narrow-minded. Good luck in finding the forum which caters to just the Sr owners.....wouldn't want you to have to listen to the constant whining and all http://www.freshalloy.com/

**DONOTDELETE**
12-19-2001, 06:18 PM
Not to add fuel to the fire, but na sr20 sentra's,nx's and the like get over 7-8hp with a good CAI.

The ka with a drop in stock like filter will get 3hp, but with a CAI can get 5 or better.

StealthmodeS14
12-19-2001, 06:27 PM
....ok, granted a couple more hp, but not enough to be able to claim superiority over another engine which has its fair share of qualities.....*sigh*.......I know I have some type of point, but for the life of me can't figure out where I was going with it. It's been a hard day at work, it's late, and I'm cranky...forgive me if no sense is made of my recent posts http://www.freshalloy.com/

There are no hard feelings here S13srmadness. By no means was the start of an argument intended by my recent posts....just wondered why you criticized others for having an opinion when in fact your statement of the Sr being "vastly superior" is exactly that.....an opinion.

**DONOTDELETE**
12-19-2001, 07:45 PM
how about a removable top, like a T-top only without the center support. cut just behind the top of the windshield and just before the back of the door

ZENKI_KONG
12-19-2001, 09:49 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial[/img]quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by zbeast:

I thought lack of sales led to the demise of the 240sx, but I guess I can see it your way to.
http://www.freshalloy.com/<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

i meant demise as in the numbers that will be left modded and worn out in 6 years when all these teenagers have got their parents to buy up the rest of the 240s and start making them look like hondas. every little F&F disciple i know of sweats my 240 and the sr swap and asked where to find a good 240. i'm scared to sell mine in fear i won't be able to find another when i want another one

http://www.freshalloy.com/

**DONOTDELETE**
12-20-2001, 12:14 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial[/img]quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by RZ:

Well,
It could be a trend. It has been happening ever since The Model 'T'... And is still continueing today.
So that classifies as a Trend, just has not stopped evolving.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

A trend is finite and will eventually have an end, as you've heard the saying, "trends come and go."

**DONOTDELETE**
12-20-2001, 12:30 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial[/img]quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Demon:


A trend is finite and will eventually have an end, as you've heard the saying, "trends come and go."<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Oh yeah. And when the trend ends, maybe we'll try to make our cars slower instead. VW badges will sell a lot!! http://www.freshalloy.com/ http://www.freshalloy.com/

**DONOTDELETE**
12-20-2001, 12:59 AM
Yeah - so will NISSAN emblems.

Not like NISSANs are on top of the game either buddy.

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial[/img]quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Neurotoxic:
Oh yeah. And when the trend ends, maybe we'll try to make our cars slower instead. VW badges will sell a lot!! http://www.freshalloy.com/ http://www.freshalloy.com/<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

**DONOTDELETE**
12-20-2001, 06:24 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial[/img]quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by revhard:
how about a removable top, like a T-top only without the center support. cut just behind the top of the windshield and just before the back of the door<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yep. Great idea. I was thinking about that when I got the car. And there's someone else on this forum who thought about a t-top too (can't remember who it was). Actualy, what I'd like is a Targa top. Now, that'd be awesome! http://www.freshalloy.com/

But I think it wouldn't be good for chassis stiffness. Maybe combined with a full rollover cage, but then, why install a t-top if there are beams averywhere? It would look like a w-top :P

AceInHole
12-20-2001, 07:36 AM
LoL... a KA with just a cone filter does 10hp over stock. :P 3-4 HP my ass, this is on a dyno!

....well, at least assuming a 15% driveline loss, it would be 10 over stock. (142.6hp x 1.15 = ~165hp). http://forums.freshalloy.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=9&t=003636

'97 S14 SE Turbo
12-20-2001, 08:35 AM
I can already see what's next. The days of the SR vs KA battle are over, now the next phase is:

NA vs FI... http://www.freshalloy.com/ http://www.freshalloy.com/ http://www.freshalloy.com/

StealthmodeS14
12-20-2001, 08:49 AM
I wouldn't count on that TY...I normally wouldn't have wasted my time in responding to such a post, but for some reason could not resist last night. A little out of character for me....sorry http://www.freshalloy.com/

Do I not make sense though?????

JonCarson
12-21-2001, 12:11 AM
Any more SR vs. KA posts in THIS thread will be deleted.

We don't need to clutter up every other topic with the same old drivel.

Jonathan

**DONOTDELETE**
12-21-2001, 12:18 AM
i think we are going to be faced with a fresh face of "ex-honda" owners that will bring their wonderful taste to the marketplace.
-wings west will make a body kit (ooh aggressor!! heh)
-imitation rims will be the hype.. even chrome perhaps
-m3 mirrors
-tint tint tint
-fart-like exhaust sounds from cheap ass mufflers
-silvia badging for 7.99 at nopi.com
-altezza style tailights (i shudder at the thought)
-guys racing anything and everything they see cuz they feel cooler now that they have moved on from hondas...
-and i personally think the sr swap will be the hype, much like civics with b18s... then people who dont know how to take care of them will blow them up and think nissan sucks and go back to honda.. and we'll just enjoy the "bad" wave that comes through sitting back laughing .. MUAHAHAHAHAH!!

not to rag on guys that drive honda. i had an integra before (but wait dude, thats acura!!! its different didnt you know??!!?) but im stereotyping and generalizing... i dont think anyone will mind my purposeful ignorance http://www.freshalloy.com/

[ 12-21-2001: Message edited by: Kouki ]