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Mike_TX
03-09-2005, 09:10 AM
Several of you have had your M's for a week or two now ... how about some owner reviews?

Feel free to ramble on as much as you'd like. We're ready to absorb as much detailed observation as you'd care to toss out. http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/smile.gif

dseag2
03-09-2005, 05:03 PM
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. I keep reading all these new owner posts in ClubLexus raving about the new GS, and it's like there's nothing going on around here! Of all forums, I would think this would have the most driving enthusiasts jumping on this car. http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/confused.gif

222Max
03-09-2005, 05:30 PM
Well, I don't have an M and there's probably not one in my near future http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/tear.gif
But besides here there's a new M club forum. Not many posters yet but that should change soon. I'd stay in touch with it in the coming weeks.

http://www.clubm45.com/

psteng19
03-09-2005, 06:08 PM
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. I keep reading all these new owner posts in ClubLexus raving about the new GS, and it's like there's nothing going on around here! Of all forums, I would think this would have the most driving enthusiasts jumping on this car. http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/confused.gif





That's because the M owners are too busy enjoying their rides to come back and post it on the internet http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/grin.gif

pasgener
03-09-2005, 08:30 PM
Only have time for a quick post, but to summarize: phenomenal! I have an M35x, fully loaded, and not a complaint thus far. Everything works without muss and without fuss (bluetooth, Nav, DVD, 5.1, voice commands, reverse camera, active headlights, active cruise, lane-departure, etc). The powertrain is smooth and powerful, the tranny fantastic, the handling superb. I love the interior (I have rosewood) and love the luxury touches (much improved compared with my G35 sedan). I have a long road-trip planned, and I can't wait . . .

jygcoupe
03-09-2005, 10:34 PM
was very interested in m45 sport, have driven 2 dealer demos sevral times, Aside from v-8 power which is there and handling which is there ar some problems, Radio /cd system sucks very poor sound qualitly. The new 5.1 dvd sysem is independant of the radio and cd system. Both cars had at journey tech pacakge
one had premum as well. Fm radio and standard cd peeformance were dismall. My standard bmw 10 speaker system has much more definition and range of power, Bose sucks. Also the use
of video screen is distracting and takes away from driving experience. Only good part is automatic backup cam on journey system. Having to use video screen to see climate control settings & radio presets is just over kill.Again takes away from car being a driver car. do not get me wrong the engine/tranny combo and interaaction are amazing and intoxicating. But the ginger bread takes away from all of this coupled with a very poor sound radio/cd is causing me to rethink my purchase. http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/mad.gif http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/mad.gif http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/mad.gif http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/mad.gif http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/mad.gif

Mike_TX
03-09-2005, 10:56 PM
was very interested in m45 sport, have driven 2 dealer demos sevral times, Aside from v-8 power which is there and handling which is there ar some problems, Radio /cd system sucks very poor sound qualitly. The new 5.1 dvd sysem is independant of the radio and cd system. Both cars had at journey tech pacakge
one had premum as well. Fm radio and standard cd peeformance were dismall. My standard bmw 10 speaker system has much more definition and range of power, Bose sucks. Also the use
of video screen is distracting and takes away from driving experience. Only good part is automatic backup cam on journey system. Having to use video screen to see climate control settings & radio presets is just over kill.Again takes away from car being a driver car. do not get me wrong the engine/tranny combo and interaaction are amazing and intoxicating. But the ginger bread takes away from all of this coupled with a very poor sound radio/cd is causing me to rethink my purchase. http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/mad.gif http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/mad.gif http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/mad.gif http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/mad.gif http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/mad.gif



Well, that's a bulletin, since most reviewers, owners and test drivers have reported that the audio is outstanding. http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/confused.gif

As for the display, many, many upper-end cars are going with that, and I for one like it. Even my lowly '04 Maxima has a MID (multi-purpose information display, or something like that), and I really like it. Gives you all the info in one place, in characters large enough to take in at a glance.

Can't please everyone, right? http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/wink.gif

nicolasj
03-10-2005, 01:00 AM
FM sucks - that's why you get satellite radio.
Don't like the screen? Don't look at it!
Not sure why these things would make you rethink your purchase.

jygcoupe
03-10-2005, 08:16 AM
regular radio FM is not part of that system, nor is standard cd playback,. Public radio clasical , is what I listen to and poor
audio quality just doeas not cut it.

tjpyles
03-10-2005, 09:21 AM
My wife has a 2004 BMW 330Cic with the high end Boston sound system. I just bought an M45 Sport, and I am very much an audiophile. I am not sure what your listening tastes are, but even subjective issues aside, the BMW Boston Accoustics sound system is not nearly as good as the new Bose system in the M. I owned a G35 coupe prior to the M, and I would agree that the Boston system is better than the Bose system in the G, but the only way anyone could think that the new Bose system does not offer the best in quality, range, high end, low end, surround, normal stereo, etc. is that they have a built in bias against Bose. I have bashed Bose in the past (I would not put any of the current Bose home systems in my home to save my life), but this sound system is easily the best OEM I have heard in any car.

tjpyles
03-10-2005, 09:26 AM
If you are expecting Surround quality out of normal FM or CD playback, you are going to be deeply disappointed. They do not have the data capacity to produce 5.1 ability. Even taking that out of the equation, the stereo quality of the radio and CD is superlative. Add to that the you can put in Six MP3 CD's into the changer for something in the neighborhood of 4 gigs of storage, and I am in heaven. I love the added organization of MP3 folders displayed on the LCD for quick and easy Group/Album selection. Great System - Hands Down.

jygcoupe
03-10-2005, 10:30 AM
my 528 has ten speakers with BMW 5 series seperate audio amp.
Bose system is not as clean and solid sounding as my 528 nor are highs are clear. I will try again as the m45 I'm wanted is now showing up in dealers inventory. possibly is a sample variation.Home system is very high end Infinity (notice trademark issue) RS ll .Acurus A250 (400 wpc) Yamaha cx2 pre-amp. Yamaha px3 tt Grace f9e Cartridge, yamaha t1020 tuner and Marantz 63se. Sold audio during law school

dseag2
03-10-2005, 10:39 AM
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. I keep reading all these new owner posts in ClubLexus raving about the new GS, and it's like there's nothing going on around here! Of all forums, I would think this would have the most driving enthusiasts jumping on this car. http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/confused.gif





That's because the M owners are too busy enjoying their rides to come back and post it on the internet.



Sorry, didn't realize you were a new M owner. Thanks for clarifying. http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/wink.gif

pasgener
03-10-2005, 10:49 AM
jypcoupe: I must disagree.

The 14-speaker Bose system with DVD-Audio has excellent sound, even for regular FM radio and CD (though obviously they are not encoded in 5.1 as DVD-A is).

Merely having an in-dash screen does not "detract from it as a driver's car"! The screen is excellent, very readable, has a "night mode" so that it does not overwhelm at night. I'm not sure how looking at a screen for the climate control settings (rather than looking at the gauges themselves) is more distracting. If you find the screen distracting then keep it in "Status" mode all the time.

jygcoupe
03-10-2005, 11:24 AM
neither sounded outstanding on regular fm or cds. Nor as good as my bmw 10 speaker system on my 2000 bmw ,(non-premium dsp system)

ptcflyer
03-10-2005, 11:59 AM
Just picked up a M45 With Tech and Journey today. (Serengeti Sand) It seems like an excellent car. Performance is great! the shifting is very smooth. The Nav is the best I have seen out there. I love the split screen capability and the ability to manipulate the controls from the steering wheel, from the dash controller, or just hitting the correct buttons on the dash.

For the most part, I am "tripping" my way through what I want.. but the controls are instinctive. A few fumbles, but for the most part, I get what I want from a very complex system with a very good ease of use.

The voice recognition is very good. I just have to work a little more on the commands and dialogue sequences to make the voice control more "fluid"...

I had my phone synched up in a matter of minutes. I took my first business call right while the salesman was doing the walkthrough. The person on the other end of the call had no idea I was in a car. I am trying to figure out if I can dial numbers once a call has been established... i.e. for voicemail access and conference call pins, etc. For now, I use my handheld phone to dial the extra numbers. The voice recongition for the initial call works flawlessly.

I traded in a BMW 740IL for this vehicle. The fit and finish are very good in the M, however, the quality of the carpet is not that great. My BMW had better quality carpet and a more durable plush leather. I do like the headliner and the interior chrome accents. I also find the wood trim very tastefull. The glossy stuff on my BMW seemed like it scratched easily.

IMHO, the noise level is a bit above the Lexus standard, but very acceptable. When you step on the gas, the performance is where you say... the heck with Lexus luxury.

Interesting note: The polarized sunglasses that I wear allow me to see the Nav screen from the drivers position, but it is virtually unreadable from the passenger seat.

The backup camera is great. The lane departure system works well and does not seem intrusive to me. I like it. I have not yet used the intelligent cruise control.

My wife has gone from skeptical of too many toys... to "when do I get my new blue tooth phone!" in a matter of hours. I think she has already gotten into the features!

BTW: I purchased the M45 over the M35... because of the refinement of the V8. I had a G35 Coupe .. and after a while the exhaust note got a bit annoying. In the M class, I like the exhaust note, performance, and feel of the V8. Value-wise, the V8 is questionable... I hope I make up for it in durability and comfort during my long-term relationship with the car.

Performance - 10
Exterior Looks - 8
Interior Look / Feel - 8
Bells and Whistles - 10
Spaciousness - 9
Value - 9


Dealer experience -- Very good... I felt like they should treat customers a little better when they pay MSRP. They still try to eek in extra costs and deploy typical dealer techniques that should be scrapped for an MSRP deal.

Once they lock in a deal at MSRP... they need to back off and forget about being greedy. When they are doing deals at $500 over invoice... I can uderstand their need to "pad" their deals.

From an investment point of view, I am concerned that people will just see a big "G". When folks look at the GS430... they do not just see a bigger ES300! I wish the syling was more distinctive. I am counting on Infiniti marketing this car.. and I hope that it becomes the clear differentiated leader in the integration of technology....through the auto trade rags. That will help resale in the short-medium term.

As cars become more and more technology based... however... the life product cycle of the vehicles will shrink... Good technology can turn into an annoying non-upgradeable features quickly.

I have noticed a very slight rattle above the drivers head... which is my only complaint. I need to investigate this further.

Anyway... i am off on a 1000 mile road trip. Will update later.

95Q45
03-10-2005, 05:47 PM
"...Also the use of the video screen is distracting and takes away from (the) driving experience...Having to use (the)video screen to see climate control settings & radio is just over kill. Again takes away from car being a driver car. Do not get me wrong the engine/tranny combo and interaction are amazing and intoxicating. But the ginger bread takes away from all of this..."

Thats a thought - An M that gives the driver all the G's without all the geewizardry.