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**DONOTDELETE**
01-06-2002, 05:49 PM
Try and get IGOTSBOTH's attention... he's got 240+ hp at the crank on his. Then ask him about the one that has over 300hp at the crank... all n/a SOHC KA24

Demon

**DONOTDELETE**
01-06-2002, 05:57 PM
streetable is such an interesting word, huh!! http://www.freshalloy.com/

**DONOTDELETE**
01-06-2002, 05:59 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial[/img]quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by old_s13:
streetable is such an interesting word, huh!! http://www.freshalloy.com/<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well...interestingly enough, the 300hp+ KA24E was on EFI... booyah

Demon

White_240sx
01-06-2002, 07:13 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial[/img]quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Demon:


Well...interestingly enough, the 300hp+ KA24E was on EFI... booyah

Demon<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Individual DCOE style throttle bodies, or a big single and a surge tank?

**DONOTDELETE**
01-06-2002, 08:47 PM
but man, at what cost!!! http://www.freshalloy.com/

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial[/img]quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Demon:


Well...interestingly enough, the 300hp+ KA24E was on EFI... booyah

Demon<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

brtecson
01-06-2002, 09:02 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial[/img]quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Demon:


Well...interestingly enough, the 300hp+ KA24E was on EFI... booyah

Demon<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

daaammn!! didn't think that was possible. whose is it? off the top of your head, or anybody's head, could you give some basic info? Compression, cam profile, throttle body setup, any basic info.

brtecson

Mav1178
01-06-2002, 09:27 PM
Visit www.nasport.org (http://www.nasport.org) and check out the cars. All the 240's in there run a KA24E prepped to about 300HP.

-alex

**DONOTDELETE**
01-07-2002, 12:16 AM
i plan on doing a complete rebuild of my SOHC. what's the highest output anyone's seen on streetable ka24e with modified top and bottom end and bolt ons?

**DONOTDELETE**
01-07-2002, 03:36 AM
I can't speak about a subject I do not know too much about. I will leave this one to the few resident high-hp KA24E experts. But again, these "super KAs" are nothing new. They've been around for a while... I guess most 240 folks just never really know about them

Demon

stock4door
01-07-2002, 03:45 AM
The 300 horse KA that I think demon is referring to is one that was on the dynojet at Rebello. It was a race gas motor and also high compression. But it did have good idle characteristics. It used the stock ka24e intake manifold with a large intake pipe and a large velocity stack. The engine was fully worked, large solid rocker camshaft, bored, balanced, ported, and the full works as expected on a Rebello race engine. It was using a custom stand alone efi setup that was a manifold pressure system. I think the final HP number was 306. I do not remember the torque numbers or curve.

[ 01-07-2002: Message edited by: stock4door ]

ADAM HUTCHINSON
01-07-2002, 06:23 AM
those are not exactly bolt ons http://www.freshalloy.com/
89' sohc with 170k
with
race cam..header..intake..exhaust, and JWT chip and 310cc injectors ..

best dyno pull ever
146rwhp 132ftlbs torque

'97 S14 SE Turbo
01-07-2002, 09:38 AM
Adam, the original question did not limit it to bolt ons, it included modified top and bottom end.

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial[/img]quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ADAM HUTCHINSON:
those are not exactly bolt ons http://www.freshalloy.com/
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

ADAM HUTCHINSON
01-07-2002, 09:41 AM
guess i should have read it more carefully http://www.freshalloy.com/

'97 S14 SE Turbo
01-07-2002, 01:04 PM
Here we go again! http://www.freshalloy.com/ http://www.freshalloy.com/ http://www.freshalloy.com/

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial[/img]quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ADAM HUTCHINSON:
thats why turbo is the way to go... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://www.freshalloy.com/ http://www.freshalloy.com/ http://www.freshalloy.com/

ADAM HUTCHINSON
01-07-2002, 01:22 PM
its not that ty..

its just people are ragging on me ..while the guy asked for a streetable engine....no way in hell is a 300hp sohc race engine streetable...running on race gas and 14:1 comp.. they are being silly not me..

'97 S14 SE Turbo
01-07-2002, 01:27 PM
But that 244hp Carb'ed KA of IGOTSBOTH is streetable. Yeah, 300hp NA is not, but it's not the point. the 300hp was used as an extreme example of what a NA KA can do, such as the 8.8sec Jun Silvia as an extreme example of what SR22DET can do.

**DONOTDELETE**
01-07-2002, 02:40 PM
hehe BOOYAH! http://www.freshalloy.com/

(always wanted to say that)

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial[/img]quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by T.Y.:
But that 244hp Carb'ed KA of IGOTSBOTH is streetable. Yeah, 300hp NA is not, but it's not the point. the 300hp was used as an extreme example of what a NA KA can do, such as the 8.8sec Jun Silvia as an extreme example of what SR22DET can do.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

**DONOTDELETE**
01-07-2002, 04:18 PM
hey guys, thanks for the responses.

let me define "streetable" in south carolina.

we have no smog tests

we have no vehicle inspections

the cops woulnd't know an illegal short block engine if it ran them over. http://www.freshalloy.com/

ADAM HUTCHINSON
01-07-2002, 05:13 PM
yeah..but can you afford to buy a new motor every month of driving,....

or are you willing not to drive further than 200miles (unless you carry jerry cans)..cause you don't have access to the correct fuel..since this is an unlimited motor i guess we could put in a 30 gallon fuel cell to extend the range http://www.freshalloy.com/

'97 S14 SE Turbo
01-07-2002, 08:30 PM
Again, you are doing the same thing you've been doing. Why can't you accept that folks can get 244 crank hp out of a carb KA24E?

...Stop being so narrow minded.

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial[/img]quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ADAM HUTCHINSON:
yeah..but can you afford to buy a new motor every month of driving,....

or are you willing not to drive further than 200miles (unless you carry jerry cans)..cause you don't have access to the correct fuel..since this is an unlimited motor i guess we could put in a 30 gallon fuel cell to extend the range http://www.freshalloy.com/<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

**DONOTDELETE**
01-07-2002, 11:39 PM
302 v8

**DONOTDELETE**
01-07-2002, 11:45 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial[/img]quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ADAM HUTCHINSON:
give me c116 and 14:1 comp and most motors can lay down impressive power....WHAT THEY DON'T TELL YOU IS THE MOTORS ARE BUILT TO LAST 50HRS RACE TIME http://www.freshalloy.com/ or less


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Oh so sorry, mr. smith.... I know a dude that daily drove one of these 50 hour, 240hp+ motors for more like 4 or 5 years.


Demon
Edited part: Why did 4 separate people IM me today asking what's up with this adam hutchinson character? That's w/o me even having to say anything...

[ 01-07-2002: Message edited by: Demon ]

KenFuji
01-07-2002, 11:54 PM
only drove it for 10hrs a year right? http://www.freshalloy.com/ lol
hey just kidding

[ 01-07-2002: Message edited by: drift-otaku ]

**DONOTDELETE**
01-07-2002, 11:59 PM
streetable and daily driver can mean alot of things. those 300hp motors dont last 50hrs. they last longer than that. and yes, you can run em on the street. 50hrs at what rpm?

**DONOTDELETE**
01-08-2002, 12:11 AM
STROKER KIT.............ALL I HAVE TO SAY. http://www.freshalloy.com/

01-08-2002, 12:22 AM
Where are you gonna get one? All I have to say...

Asad

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial[/img]quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by samiam:
STROKER KIT.............ALL I HAVE TO SAY.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

ADAM HUTCHINSON
01-08-2002, 12:30 AM
asad ...since this is a "unlimited" motor..we could just billet machine the crank and rods...

http://www.freshalloy.com/

**DONOTDELETE**
01-08-2002, 12:45 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial[/img]quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ADAM HUTCHINSON:
those are not exactly bolt ons http://www.freshalloy.com/
89' sohc with 170k
with
race cam..header..intake..exhaust, and JWT chip and 310cc injectors ..

best dyno pull ever
146rwhp 132ftlbs torque<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


Who gives a crap about a dong KA24E with dong 240-minded bolt ons with a dong dyno figure...?? And why even stroke when people who have BEEN THERE, DONE THAT are making almost twice as much hp w/o stroking?


Demon

Edited part: Just because you know nothing about these REAL high-hp built KA24Es does not mean you sound intelligent when spouting off your own numbers and specs that pale in comparison... and just basically lack common sense sir. I bite my thumb at thee

[ 01-07-2002: Message edited by: Demon ]

**DONOTDELETE**
01-08-2002, 12:51 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial[/img]quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Mav1178:
Visit www.nasport.org (http://www.nasport.org) and check out the cars. All the 240's in there run a KA24E prepped to about 300HP.

-alex<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Is there a reason why the race teams use the sohc motor over the dohc motor for na?

01-08-2002, 12:52 AM
The series rules don't allow the DOHC motor.

Asad

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial[/img]quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by zed616:

Is there a reason why the race teams use the sohc motor over the dohc motor for na?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

ADAM HUTCHINSON
01-08-2002, 12:59 AM
give me c116 and 14:1 comp and most motors can lay down impressive power....WHAT THEY DON'T TELL YOU IS THE MOTORS ARE BUILT TO LAST 50HRS RACE TIME http://www.freshalloy.com/ or less

so these numbers represent nothing for street motors..or for that matter nothing unless you are a race team with MONEY..and so far i have not seen anyone on this board that is race team level....

its like asking..what kind of power can you get from a v8..and someone spouts off 7000hp... what they don't tell you is that it lasts for 20seconds http://www.freshalloy.com/

i talked to some of those engine builders (malvern) and the biggest concern with high compression is motor life span which they stated in hours..thats why turbo is the way to go...


<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial[/img]quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Demon:



Who gives a crap about a dong KA24E with dong 240-minded bolt ons with a dong dyno figure...?? And why even stroke when people who have BEEN THERE, DONE THAT are making almost twice as much hp w/o stroking?


Demon

Edited part: Just because you know nothing about these REAL high-hp built KA24Es does not mean you sound intelligent when spouting off your own numbers and specs that pale in comparison... and just basically lack common sense sir. I bite my thumb at thee

[ 01-07-2002: Message edited by: Demon ]<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

ADAM HUTCHINSON
01-08-2002, 06:02 AM
whatever......

go racing and see what happens to your race series when you don't pull the engines down after the reccomended life span of the motor...you lose races..cause something fails...

and if it is not this way..then you are not extracting enough power out of the motor..and then it is not as highly tuned as it could be..which means you are going slower than you could be...

ADAM HUTCHINSON
01-08-2002, 06:09 AM
am i talking about the stupid 244hp carbed motor...NO...i am talking about the 300hp "race" motors that were being discussed above..and with everyones logic i guess we can run just about anything on the street...since fuel, compression ratio and cams seem to have no bearing to what anyone would call streetable here...on this board has anyone besides myself even driven with the SOHC race cam installed in the 240sx.....? well it sucks for the street...and thats not even compiled with the pain of getting fuel....or having solid motor mounts...

calling john force...can i borrow your ride..and a 50 gallon drum of nitro meth...i have to go pick up some bread..


<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial[/img]quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Demon:



Oh so sorry, mr. smith.... I know a dude that daily drove one of these 50 hour, 240hp+ motors for more like 4 or 5 years.


Demon
Edited part: Why did 4 separate people IM me today asking what's up with this adam hutchinson character? That's w/o me even having to say anything...

[ 01-07-2002: Message edited by: Demon ]<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

**DONOTDELETE**
01-08-2002, 06:42 AM
Now Serving #50. #50? Please post http://www.freshalloy.com/

'97 S14 SE Turbo
01-08-2002, 07:35 AM
Adam, if you are talking about the 300hp race motor, then why on earth do you talk about it on the street? Race motors stay on the race track. We all know that.

By talking about driving on the street, you instantly become talking about the 240ish hp street motor.

You need to make a better job at distinguishing the different motors you are talking about.

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial[/img]quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ADAM HUTCHINSON:
am i talking about the stupid 244hp carbed motor...NO...i am talking about the 300hp "race" motors that were being discussed above..and with everyones logic i guess we can run just about anything on the street...since fuel, compression ratio and cams seem to have no bearing to what anyone would call streetable here...on this board has anyone besides myself even driven with the SOHC race cam installed in the 240sx.....? well it sucks for the street...and thats not even compiled with the pain of getting fuel....or having solid motor mounts...

calling john force...can i borrow your ride..and a 50 gallon drum of nitro meth...i have to go pick up some bread..


<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

'97 S14 SE Turbo
01-08-2002, 07:37 AM
By your statement below, you basically said street driving. People are smart enough to not drive a hi-po race motor on the street.

So, if everyone jumps on you, you can't blame anyone but yourself. Heck, you said it all below.

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial[/img]quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ADAM HUTCHINSON:
yeah..but can you afford to buy a new motor every month of driving,....

or are you willing not to drive further than 200miles (unless you carry jerry cans)..cause you don't have access to the correct fuel..since this is an unlimited motor i guess we could put in a 30 gallon fuel cell to extend the range http://www.freshalloy.com/<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

ADAM HUTCHINSON
01-08-2002, 07:42 AM
cause this guy was going on about running it on the street..and the original poster made a comment on what is streetable in his area...it really has nothing to do with the law in the area..i don't think anyone could stand driving a 300rwhp race motor on the street..thats all...


<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial[/img]quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by 240hp:
streetable and daily driver can mean alot of things. those 300hp motors dont last 50hrs. they last longer than that. and yes, you can run em on the street. 50hrs at what rpm?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

**DONOTDELETE**
01-08-2002, 09:10 AM
Best solution: Call rebello and talk to them. Get the answer to all your questions that way. Then realize that your life has forever been changed.

Demon

**DONOTDELETE**
01-08-2002, 02:31 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial[/img]quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SOHCfanatic:
hey guys, thanks for the responses.

let me define "streetable" in south carolina.

we have no smog tests

we have no vehicle inspections

the cops woulnd't know an illegal short block engine if it ran them over. http://www.freshalloy.com/<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
You know that's right, I love it!!!

http://www.freshalloy.com/