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**DONOTDELETE**
01-09-2002, 12:22 AM
Hey guys...I have been trying to make a decision on my 1993 240SX Hatch. I have always pampered this car and it is in great shape except for the driver seat (worn out side bolster...suprise??) Well, she has 128K on her now and still runs like new. Part of me wants to strip it down and get her ready for the street, the other half says "screw it" and get something different in the Spring. As you all know, building a car is big bucks and I'm just not sure if it is worth it. I also don't know if I am gonna stay NA or go turbo. If I do go turbo, it WILL be with the KA24DE motor (I have my reasons). Putting a turbo on makes the car insane immediately whereas I have no idea my potential for a built NA. (250hp???) So, what do you guys think...DO IT? or SCREW IT? http://www.freshalloy.com/ http://www.freshalloy.com/

**DONOTDELETE**
01-09-2002, 01:15 AM
Do you want to spend lots of bucks and get 50 more ponies or 150 more???
Rob http://www.freshalloy.com/ <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial[/img]quote:</font><HR> <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

**DONOTDELETE**
01-09-2002, 09:30 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial[/img]quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by McTwist:
Do you want to spend lots of bucks and get 50 more ponies or 150 more???
Rob http://www.freshalloy.com/ <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

exactly. you can put a turbo on a stock engine and gain power or you can rebuild/modify top and bottom ends and gain POWER! http://www.freshalloy.com/

AZ_Dave
01-09-2002, 09:42 AM
I guess it all depends on how much you like the car. For me, the 240sx hatchback was the perfect platform of looks, comfort and performance.

Dave
'89 s13 hatch
SR20DET

kyoshiro
01-09-2002, 01:10 PM
Screw It! Get a 3rd gen RX-7.

Don't get me wrong, I love my '89 240sx but for the amount of money it's going to take to rebuild, turbo, etc, it just isn't worth it IMHO. I'd rather spend all that money on a better car or a motorcycle, but that's just me.

JonCarson
01-09-2002, 04:42 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial[/img]quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by kyoshiro:
Screw It! Get a 3rd gen RX-7.

Don't get me wrong, I love my '89 240sx but for the amount of money it's going to take to rebuild, turbo, etc, it just isn't worth it IMHO. I'd rather spend all that money on a better car or a motorcycle, but that's just me.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Do you know how much it costs to maintain an RX7? Especially if you have a modded one that gets raced... I'm no expert on them, but everyone that I've ever talked to about rotaries says that engine rebuilds are needed all the time. What are those things called....apex seals?

I love the look and performance of FDs, but I'd be afraid for my wallet if I owned one.

**DONOTDELETE**
01-09-2002, 04:49 PM
mazda states that a stock turbo rotary will require a rebuild at 80-100k and a modified one usally needs rebuilding every 30-50k and a avg rotary rebuild cost 2500-3000 depending on how much you drive you could be looking at a 3000 bill every 2 yrs

jeremy

SR20VET
01-09-2002, 05:03 PM
A good friend of mine used to be a Mazda mechanic. One of the most common jobs he would do is put a NEW engine in a RX-7. Don't get me wrong I love RX-7 in my opinion it is the most pure sports car to ever come from Japan.

Thats not as good a thing as it sounds though. The RX-7 would BLOW in the winter, 240 is kinda pushing it but I've been driving mine all winter with no problems. The rotary engine is the most powerful engine in the world bhp/litre. Later model FD3s made about 280bhp from a 1.3 litre (654cc per rotor, 2 rotors). Rotory engines are also the highest matenence engines in the world. They almost always leak oil, and tend to be so expensive to fix that a new engine is a cheaper option (90% of the little garages out there will not work on rotorys).

So yes the RX-7 is the better car, but at the same time it's not. If you have no problem rebuilding your engine regularly, or buying a new one every year or two then go for it no car will ever impress me as much as a highly tuned RX-7, except mabey the 787B (4 rotor, turbo, 700bhp).

Here is a pic of the ultimate rotory powered car. http://www.mazda.com/museum/museum/new_index/005his/787.html

And an audio clip (it's a little big for those of you using dial-up). Right click link and clck "save as" http://http://images.rotarynews.com/sounds/ss4/sevenstock028.mp3

In my opinion the money you would spend on keeping the RX-7 running could get you a REALLY fast 240. If you have plenty of money though the RX-7 will be the faster car.

[ 01-09-2002: Message edited by: SR20VET ]

White_240sx
01-09-2002, 07:18 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial[/img]quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SR20VET:
except mabey the 787B (4 rotor, turbo, 700bhp).<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Actually the 26B was naturally aspirated.

kyoshiro
01-09-2002, 07:43 PM
I'm well aware of the costs involved in maintaining a RX-7, that's why I don't have one. But if I had the money I'd get one in a heartbeat

What do you guys feel about the 300ZX TT? Would you rather get that or turbo a 240?

**DONOTDELETE**
01-09-2002, 09:46 PM
Thanks for the insight so far guys. CARSONJON- I don't know what else to consider for other cars. I guess my primary concern with my 240 is age. I mean, I am a die hard Nissan fan (though I do look at other products from time to time) but when I bought my car, it was because I could afford it. I bought it in 1999 with 74K on it for $4000 complete. Going with a turbo is expensive plus I would have to do up the interior to make it look the way I would want it to look. My car is pretty much a base coupe with power nothing and a 5-speed (bonus). But at 155hp stock I would rather start with something that already has in the neighborhood of 200hp. Although it is hard to find a rear drive 5-speed with 4.083 gears and a multi-link rear suspension! This has been my dilemma. I thought about sprucing up a Maxima but I'm not quite sold on that idea yet either. I have also seen some KILLER Merc Cougars but that would be domestic and that makes me nervous! (Nuff said) 2003 Tiburon looks tight but good Lord...it's a Hyundai!! If I don't do the 240...give me some alternatives guys...THANX!!! http://www.freshalloy.com/

SR20VET
01-09-2002, 10:32 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial[/img]quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by White240sx:


Actually the 26B was naturally aspirated.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Really? Hmm...I could easily be wrong about that I was under the impression it was turbo though.

As for alternatives in the 200bhp range w/ RWD. It all depends on what you're willing to spend. He're are my personal picks for some price ranges.

$5,000 and below - S13 240sx, 1st gen MR2 w/ supercharger (neither are at 200 but they are both EXCELLENT handling cars)

$5,001 - $9,000 - AWD turbo Eclipse/Talon, the 2 gen old AWD (not sure if they came AWD in this country at the time, but you can tell the gen. I'm talking about by the black grill going all they way across the front of the car) Turbo Celica

$9,001 - $15,000 - 300zx, 2 gen old Turbo Supra (the last gen that they were still boxy), Turbo 2nd gen. MR2

$15,001 - $20,000 - nothing off the top of my head although I'm sure I'm missing LOTS of cars (hey it's 1:30 in the morning) http://www.freshalloy.com/

$20,001 - $30,000 (big price jumps now 'cause I'm getting tired)- current gen. Turbo Supra, FD3 RX-7, old BMW M3

$30,001 - $40,000 - R32 Skyline GT-R

$40,0001 - $55,000 - R33 Skyline GT-R, C5 'Vette (the ONLY good Corvette)

I know those last two are really high, and that there are plenty more cars in those ranges but like I said it's late and I'm tired. 'night

JonCarson
01-10-2002, 12:27 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial[/img]quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by s13sr20:
I guess it all depends on how much you like the car. For me, the 240sx hatchback was the perfect platform of looks, comfort and performance.

Dave
'89 s13 hatch
SR20DET<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

This was a good answer, in my opinion.

I like my 240SX and will be happy to throw money into it whenever I have enough of it lying around.

It sounds as though you're not all that enthusiastic about your 240. If you are going to build up something other than your 240, what else would you consider?

It really all depends on you and what you want in a tuned car. A nicely modified 240SX doesn't have to be that much more expensive than most other cars in the end, and it can be just as sweet a finished product as any.

**DONOTDELETE**
01-10-2002, 12:43 AM
There are two ways to look at the situation. 1)With 124K on the motor getting a turbo ($$$) will also require rebuilding part if not all the motor ($$) to ensure reliability. Then you would probably fix up the inside/outside ($$) for looks. 2) Buy a new car($$$$$$$$$....) then get parts to make it perform ($$$$..).
Let's see first option $$$$$$$, second option many more $$$$$$$$$$$.....