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300sx
05-01-2005, 06:22 PM
Finally got the car done, well sorta. Gotta put a bigger radiator in it and finish a couple small details but I have been driving it for about a week now. Pulls pretty strong on 12psi (low boost for now).

http://www.uploadpixels.com/upload/1114991680_uploadpixels.com_bad_move.JPG
http://www.uploadpixels.com/upload/1114991709_uploadpixels.com_vg1.JPG
http://www.uploadpixels.com/upload/1114992737_uploadpixels.com_driver_mani.JPG
http://www.uploadpixels.com/upload/1114992863_uploadpixels.com_driveshaft.JPG
http://www.uploadpixels.com/upload/1114992886_uploadpixels.com_vg1.JPG
http://www.uploadpixels.com/upload/1114992900_uploadpixels.com_vg2.JPG
http://www.uploadpixels.com/upload/1114992916_uploadpixels.com_vg3.JPG
http://www.uploadpixels.com/upload/1114992932_uploadpixels.com_vg4.JPG

Over_Center
05-01-2005, 06:36 PM
Looks good Robie.

SilverArrow27
05-01-2005, 06:52 PM
Looks way good.

Brad
05-01-2005, 06:54 PM
i like the plate

ill pray to the traction gods for you

cwdmark
05-01-2005, 07:04 PM
two thumbs way up, and i hate z's lol.

that looks soooooooo clean.

BlackBomber
05-01-2005, 07:41 PM
i like the plate

ill pray to the traction gods for you



wow, it is beautiful. an a$$load of torque in a car that light is going to rock!!! those cars have no traction so I can't imagine taking 500-700lbs off the drivetrain.

Subliminal240
05-01-2005, 07:46 PM
Much props for a unique and clean car.

BlackBomber
05-01-2005, 07:50 PM
robbie, I just showed my buddy (Z owner) and he thought it was absolutely ludicrous. He wants to know if you eliminated the MAF and if so, what engine management.

Tell us a little about fabrication that occurred like motor mounts, driveshaft, which tranny, etc. How much you got invested in this thing?

Kim_Jong_Il
05-01-2005, 07:52 PM
cool as hell. Trouble getting the twin setup to fit? The room in front of the motor is excellent.

Dave562
05-01-2005, 07:52 PM
So sexy, so freakin sexy. I feel sorry for those poor tires. http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Big_Bronze_Rim
05-01-2005, 08:02 PM
Excellent work! Install and fabrication is super clean and looks great. Im sure the car must be a blast to drive.

Punch
05-01-2005, 08:02 PM
Incredible!

killjoy
05-01-2005, 08:39 PM
Looks like it came in there stock:)

wootwoot
05-01-2005, 09:47 PM
^^^^ I wish engine bays looked that clean stock.....

But yeah, wow. Thats about it.

300sx
05-01-2005, 10:09 PM
Thanks guys! Let me see if I can answer all of your questions. First off, I built alot of custom stuff myself to do this swap, mounts (solid), manifolds, ect. The stock twins would have been real hard to keep in there because the driver side turbo interferes with the steering shaft/rack. I don't know how possible this swap would be without moving the brake booster/master cylinder like I did. It still has a MAF that is set up "blow through" style and it sits off the intercooler on the driver side. I used the TT tranny and had a custom driveshaft made by Driveshaft Specialist Inc. in Texas (highly recommended btw!!), it uses GM style replaceable U joints and I was told it should hold 600+hp, all that for $350 shipped! Ok enough of the plug, lol. I think I got most of the ?'s covered, let me know if you guys have any more.

RDM_II
05-01-2005, 10:29 PM
Horrible, bet it's slow. http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Absolutely beautiful work, and I bet it's stupid fun to drive. Congratulations on it.

mbmbmb23
05-01-2005, 11:05 PM
Any pictures of the crossover hot pipe going to the passenger side header? Looks immaculate by the way!!!!


-m

Barney_240
05-01-2005, 11:15 PM
very very nice ... also very clean ...

we gotta see the car in some action ( video ) http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/smile.gif

'97 S14 SE Turbo
05-01-2005, 11:34 PM
Where did you put the master cylinder and power assist? Behind the dash?

Very nice setup.

gatecrasher
05-02-2005, 09:29 AM
Super clean.....what turbo? what kind of numbers you looking for?

faljukin
05-02-2005, 09:38 AM
Wow that looks neat http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/cool.gif

nice swap.

95civicEX
05-02-2005, 09:40 AM
awesome work...looks absolutely beautiful.

side question though, I noticed you don't have side markers...is that not a usdm chassis, or were they just shaved?

benevolent
05-02-2005, 09:44 AM
Where did you put the master cylinder and power assist? Behind the dash?

Very nice setup.


+1 i want some more info,and photos of this...please?

cwdmark
05-02-2005, 09:53 AM
awesome work...looks absolutely beautiful.

side question though, I noticed you don't have side markers...is that not a usdm chassis, or were they just shaved?


everything looks freshly painted, my guess is they shaved it all before paint.

again, great car http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Fred_Allen_Burge
05-02-2005, 10:04 AM
Looks fantabulous, what's the oil feed line made out of, brass? Also, I'm very curious, how's the vibration with the solid motor mounts?

thanks,
allen

300sx
05-02-2005, 11:32 AM
Thanks again guys! These are the best pics I could dig up of the brake setup and the crossover tube. The turbo is a pt61 and I'm shooting for around 500-600whp.
http://www.uploadpixels.com/upload/1115054935_uploadpixels.com_manifold_029.JPG
http://www.uploadpixels.com/upload/1115054624_uploadpixels.com_manifold_019.JPG
http://www.uploadpixels.com/upload/1115054422_uploadpixels.com_bay2_008.JPG
http://www.uploadpixels.com/upload/1115055108_uploadpixels.com_brakes_056.JPG

300sx
05-02-2005, 11:36 AM
Oh and the side markers are shaved. And the motor is super smooth on the solid mounts suprisingly. A LOT less vibration than my old Civic with mount inserts.

jeremiah
05-02-2005, 11:55 AM
So clean. Nice job. Still got power steering?

JimStinksAtDorifto
05-02-2005, 11:59 AM
excellent fabbing and install!

Nikeboy355
05-02-2005, 01:20 PM
you do excellent work, period... I love it...

Vr6wantSr20det
05-02-2005, 06:52 PM
its been said in this thread many times but GODAMN that thing is clean and well done. looks immaculate. Good work and im sure its a hell of a lot of fun to drive. http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/grin.gif

wootwoot
05-02-2005, 07:08 PM
I cant stop looking at it!

BlackBomber
05-02-2005, 07:58 PM
I cant stop looking at it!



I know, this thing is beautiful. Please post some larger pictures so I can make my wall paper your car. LOL

300sx
05-02-2005, 08:37 PM
So clean. Nice job. Still got power steering?


Of course!


BlackBomber, what kinda pic do you want, don't really have any good ones other than the ones I posted. Gonna get some good ones when the weather gets better and I can actually clean the thing.

95civicEX
05-02-2005, 08:51 PM
once again, beautiful work...just out of curiosity, how much experience did you have with 240's and nissans before attempting this, and how long has it taken you?

abailey269
05-03-2005, 08:15 AM
Beautiful, nice clean install! I built a Z this time last year and it was a ***** to work on. Looks like you have more room in then engine bay than i did. Please keep us updated on your progress (dyno, track times, ...and of course pics!)

quest
05-03-2005, 12:35 PM
I'm surprised you don't see more vg30/s13 swaps on the whole.
I stumbled across a vg30dett powered s13 almost 5years ago. I posted about it when I first joined FA. The owner really disliked 'the internet', so I never bothered to seek his permission to post details/pix. Cool quiet dude tho. I stopped him as he approach his ride, only to ask about the z32 wheels, brakes, lowered stance, etc.. Ordinary lookin' faded paint, straight body. Heck of a surprise when he poped the hood! Oe quality install.
I had a tt z32 at the time and the s13 swap had slightly more room at the sides, but a whole lot more between the radiator and motor- even more than the KA. He had no mafs... VPC? or somethin'.
I asked what it 'felt' like. He said, "I go for lunch in 10 minutes, make sure u haven't had yours yet". heheh It actually drove like any normal s13, smoother tho.... that is, until he punched it. All hell broke loose. "Make it stop mommy"
Excellent performer right outta the box.
Even the ol VG30E make sick power/tq when boosted, bone stock. Excellent low budget powerplant for an s13.

Fred_Allen_Burge
05-04-2005, 12:48 PM
300SX,
How did you handle the 240sx dash wiring harness connection to the 300zx ECU? Are you using the original dash harness? I plan to keep the 240 dash harness so I can fire up the ECU with the stock ignition switch/key on my project (VQ30).

Thanks for any info,
allen

steve shadows
05-04-2005, 01:10 PM
Very nice, is that a single turbo, with one manifold plumbing around the back of the engine? just curious. I bet the boost comes on fast.

BlackBomber
05-04-2005, 01:33 PM
Very nice, is that a single turbo, with one manifold plumbing around the back of the engine? just curious. I bet the boost comes on fast.



yes.

300sx
05-04-2005, 02:50 PM
300SX,
How did you handle the 240sx dash wiring harness connection to the 300zx ECU? Are you using the original dash harness? I plan to keep the 240 dash harness so I can fire up the ECU with the stock ignition switch/key on my project (VQ30).

Thanks for any info,
allen



Yes I used the stock dash harness but there are only 2 or 3 wires hooked at the dash harness to engine harness plug because the tach and speedo are not similar. Let me know if you have any more questions.

Fred_Allen_Burge
05-04-2005, 03:40 PM
Yes I used the stock dash harness but there are only 2 or 3 wires hooked at the dash harness to engine harness plug because the tach and speedo are not similar. Let me know if you have any more questions.



Thanks,
So, you only needed 2 or 3 wires off of the stock 240sx dash harness? Were these for the ignition? If you remember can you tell me what color they were, they may be the only ones I need as well. What are you doing about a speedo and tach?

Sorry to bug you with all the questions but you've been where i'm going, so to speak!

allen

300sx
05-04-2005, 08:11 PM
Not sure on colors or exactly what they were, been a while since I did the wiring. I think one is for the starter relay and another for water temp and I'm thinking theres another but not sure what. As for tach the 6cyl signal is different so all I have right now is the safc and I have no speedo, haven't tried wiring the speedo up yet so not sure if it'll work correct or not. The tricky part of the wiring is at the passenger front fuse box (grey plug and brown plug). Best bet I can tell you is find someone that has Alldata or something similar and have them print you out info on what wires need what signal/volts. Hope that helps.

TEKVICIOUS
05-04-2005, 11:24 PM
VERY NICE MATE!!!!!!!!!! That is one sweet looking install.

SaintlyCharBoy
05-05-2005, 06:25 AM
Dakota Digital makes a few prodcts that could help with the Tach and speedo issues. SGI-8 the universal Tach adaptor (http://www.dakotadigital.com/Detail.cfm/-/Category=122/PartNumber=SGI-8/product.htm) should do the trick for the tach
and the SGI-5 the universal speedo interface (http://www.dakotadigital.com/Detail.cfm/-/Category=122/PartNumber=SGI-5/product.htm) should do the trick for the pulse differences you might encounter in wiring these guys to the stock gauges

Fred_Allen_Burge
05-05-2005, 07:17 AM
Ok, thanks. Should be fun http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

300sx
05-05-2005, 07:43 AM
Dakota Digital makes a few prodcts that could help with the Tach and speedo issues. SGI-8 the universal Tach adaptor (http://www.dakotadigital.com/Detail.cfm/-/Category=122/PartNumber=SGI-8/product.htm) should do the trick for the tach
and the SGI-5 the universal speedo interface (http://www.dakotadigital.com/Detail.cfm/-/Category=122/PartNumber=SGI-5/product.htm) should do the trick for the pulse differences you might encounter in wiring these guys to the stock gauges



Awesome, thanks! I was trying to avoid putting a big tach in the car that looks like the ticket.

killjoy
05-05-2005, 10:03 AM
Yeah, Dakota Digital, is the ****e! I have their fan controller.

Props for South Dakota companies http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Fred_Allen_Burge
05-05-2005, 11:39 AM
Robbie,
let us know how the tach interface works out for ya, I'd like to use it on my VQ swap.

As for my speedo I've got a bigger problem in the fact that the Z33 tranny has no speed sensor at all. They get their signal from the abs sensors in the wheels.

allen

S14Drift
05-05-2005, 12:50 PM
Robbie,
let us know how the tach interface works out for ya, I'd like to use it on my VQ swap.

As for my speedo I've got a bigger problem in the fact that the Z33 tranny has no speed sensor at all. They get their signal from the abs sensors in the wheels.

allen

You can always have your Tach re-calibrated for 6 cylinder, I do it (did it for a few RB 240SX) It's cheaper and no need to re-wire anything, and you know it's calibrated perfectly!

BlackBomber
05-05-2005, 02:18 PM
They get their signal from the abs sensors in the wheels.



in the wheels or the diff? I thought it was the diff where the abs sensors were mounted. Convert to a z32 diff and you are set?

edit: i thought you meant z32.

SaintlyCharBoy
05-05-2005, 04:43 PM
if the sensor is in fact at the diff, would it not be a perfect opportunity to employ an S15 helical diff and speed sensor? or couldn't you just do that anyway?

Sunil
05-06-2005, 03:40 PM
damn bro that thing is sweet as if u didnt know that already. but anyways im doing the exact same swap right now. well i havent started yet cuz im still finding parts but i have a ton of questions for u. im gonna try to keep it twinturbo though cuz im looking to go the cheapest way. i have a TTZ right now and i have an extra motor for it and i got the 240 shell practically for free so i said whynot.

u had to move the motor foward about 2 inches right? what did u do about the clutch. did u use 240 pedals and cylinders? and on the wiring u used a complete VG harness and the 240 dash harness? is it possible in any way u think to fit it in there without moving the brake cylinder and single turbo-ing it? i have more questions but i have to think of them. thanx

here are pics of the 240 and my Z
the 240 one isnt too clean
http://img87.exs.cx/img87/3276/p10207739pt.jpg
and heres my pride and joy
http://www.hostdub.com/albums/dtoyvr6/f504a386.jpg

FecalMatter
05-06-2005, 10:02 PM
300sx:
What size are the tires and wheels? That's how I want my wheels to look but don't know what sizes to get? did u use spacers? how big is the front and rear lip?

sleepin99
05-08-2005, 12:46 PM
300sx just a few questions,

can you post or email me the phone # for the driveshaft place?

i see that there is no wiring or relay boxes under the hood anymore. what did you do about the relay boxes and the wiring. did you pull out all the wiring and relays from under the hood? if so, how did you rewire the car back to run and get the lights, fans, and other accessories to work. here is my email

vqpwrd240@yahoo.com

thanks in advance

300sx
05-08-2005, 01:26 PM
Driveshaft Specialist Inc, 1-866-455-6622.

As for the wiring, its all stock (chassis wise) and the boxes are just mounted under the body (other side) where they normally sit. The starter harness just runs through a hole kinda above the framerail on the passenger side.

sleepin99
05-08-2005, 06:01 PM
so you have s13 wiring hook with the vq30dett wiring. are you using a 300zx or 240sx ecu to run the car? thanks again.

SaintlyCharBoy
05-08-2005, 06:52 PM
It sounded like he was saying that he used teh 300zx engine harness, and the S-chassis chassis harness, so all the lamps and such are stock, and the engine stuff is all transplant

Shift_Mike
05-08-2005, 07:29 PM
It sounded like he was saying that he used teh 300zx engine harness, and the S-chassis chassis harness, so all the lamps and such are stock, and the engine stuff is all transplant



werd + he is using the vg30dett ecu

Sunil
05-08-2005, 08:30 PM
hey i had a couple questions a few posts up. maybe u missed them. TIA

300sx
05-09-2005, 09:51 AM
It sounded like he was saying that he used teh 300zx engine harness, and the S-chassis chassis harness, so all the lamps and such are stock, and the engine stuff is all transplant


Correct. Although I used a KA starter harness so everything would plug up fine at that point, since the starter and alternator are on the same side as the VG.


Sunil, sorry I missed your post. Your Z looks nice! I have a RPS sprung 6 puck clutch, there was no modifications where the tranny and block meet. The motor sits away from the firewall for shifter alignment, tranny mount alignment and crossmember/pan clearance.

Sunil
05-11-2005, 09:25 PM
ah that reminded me. u used the same ka cross member and everything and the z oil pan cleared? was the turbo the only thing really in the way in a major way? did u have to single turbo to do this swap or is it still possible to do it with the TT setup? also did u have to move the brake cylinder too because of clearance issues?

sorry about all the questions but im going to be jumping in this soon and i want some kind of head start before. thanx

Broaner
05-11-2005, 10:12 PM
Its awesome to see this and gives me confidence. I plan to go down a similar path as Allen. After doing a 5Spd swap on my Maxima I finally threw in the towel on FWD. I'm tired of it.

I'm very interested in the BCM/ECU integration part. So you're saying the BCM only communicates with the ECU for the gauges? Other than that they are totally independant? That sounds really nice and I hope the Maxima ECU harness doesn't have too much BCM sh!t connected to it. I have one specific question; Where does the ECU get power from? Is it just a regular 14Ga wire that comes from the ignition? I was wondering because it seems there would be a lot of amperage because each sensor needs xx amperage to run so... I already have a fully keyless ignition on it so I was thinking I wouldn't need to fool with that. Keep the info flowing. Its awesome.

300sx
05-12-2005, 08:57 AM
Sunil, I used a J30 front sumped oil pan and had to notch the cross member a little. The driver side turbo would sit right where the steering shaft is IIRC. I did the brake setup because I'm a sucker for clean engine bays although it might fit, but it would be very close and tight in that area if it did.

Broaner, I'm not sure what you mean by BCM. The ecu gets power from the main relay in the engine bay like the ka does.

Broaner
05-12-2005, 02:28 PM
BCM stands for body control module.

BlackbirdS14
05-14-2005, 05:30 PM
Robbie S. is a genius!

Now get working on my turbo 1000 http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/grin.gif

z32power
05-16-2005, 09:57 PM
congrats on your build. I like your turbo placement better than my single setup, but the Z engine bay wouldnt really allow that...

Very cool, from the original single turbo z32 owner, i wish you GOOD LUCK, and congrats!

300sx
05-17-2005, 09:04 AM
Very cool, from the original single turbo z32 owner, i wish you GOOD LUCK, and congrats!



Thanks! I definatly spent some time checking out your setup and your dyno sheets before I was finally set on doing the single.

300sx
05-17-2005, 09:21 AM
Heres some nicer pics a friend took over the weekend.
http://www.uploadpixels.com/upload/1116342917_uploadpixels.com_importday4.JPG
http://www.uploadpixels.com/upload/1116343228_uploadpixels.com_importday2.JPG

accolite
05-17-2005, 03:38 PM
Man I love your car, its clean......... and that engine bay is BAD ASS, damn makes me wish I put a VG in my bay instead of the s14.

again very nice car especially the engine bay...

netercol
05-18-2005, 01:39 PM
damn thats clean!! i did the same ,using a vg30det (single turbo), but i just can't beat yours for clean .. thats one heck of an install! how do you find handling and weight distribution? did you use the standard diff?

ps. not upstaging u here dude, just very proud of a fellow nissan fan keeping up the good work!

http://www.uploadpixels.com/upload/1116444452_uploadpixels.com_1.jpg http://www.uploadpixels.com/upload/1116444541_uploadpixels.com_2.jpg http://www.uploadpixels.com/upload/1116444644_uploadpixels.com_3.jpg

Fred_Allen_Burge
05-18-2005, 03:42 PM
Nice job on the VG30ET, any more pics or a website?

allen

300sx
05-18-2005, 04:23 PM
Nice job on the swap! What is that out of, thats a wierd looking intake manifold? Is that an Aussie plate?

insndrvr
05-18-2005, 04:42 PM
That is actually a VG30DE, looks similar to a US VG30E Maxima intake mani. Is it off a FWD car?

aaronyoung
05-18-2005, 04:53 PM
I gave you some stars. TO be honest I am appalled at the extent you went through to keep the install clean. Congratulations on multiple levels I can only imagine the amount of work and attention to detail you had to endure to get to that level.
VERY COOL CAR!!!

aaron young http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/cool.gif

Hiram_aka_Chingon
05-18-2005, 11:09 PM
That is actually a VG30DE, looks similar to a US VG30E Maxima intake mani. Is it off a FWD car?



That is actually just what the author said it was. A vg30det. In japan (maybe australia too), these engines were offered in single turbo form with that intake manifold. I have a pic of one in a 510.

drew935
05-19-2005, 11:03 AM
ahh finally. I was wondering if someone had done that swap or was doing it. That is freaking awesome bro! Great fab work. It looks sweeet! Can't wait to see that car on the track doing whatever... http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/grin.gif
keep us posted with more pics

netercol
05-20-2005, 12:40 PM
hi guys, plate's south african ,motor is a vg30det ,EXACTLY the same as the vg30dett ,only single turbo.they were fitted to [censored] market nissan leopard, cima ,as far a i know this was a japan domestic motor only. the intake manifold brings both throttle bodies to the left of the motor,as that is were the turbo was fitted originaly.. the vg30dett brings both throttles to the front .
cool to see somebody else also actually do this swap , but as 300sx will agree ,its a LOT of work...
anybody else done this, its cool to compare notes and see what different minds have achieved? http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/smile.gif
i love robbie's uncluttered look..
http://www.uploadpixels.com/upload/1116614152_uploadpixels.com_4.jpg
http://www.uploadpixels.com/upload/1116614206_uploadpixels.com_5.jpg
http://www.uploadpixels.com/upload/1116614255_uploadpixels.com_6.jpg

netercol
05-20-2005, 12:49 PM
robbie ,i forgot, would really like to know if your handling suffered, find mine just a teeny bit noseheavy?

300sx
05-20-2005, 01:28 PM
I haven't really noticed any difference in the way the car handles and drives but I also removed alot of stuff from my car, its bare under the dash.

Man I would love to get ahold of a set of those valve covers for when I build my single plenum manifold! Would probly need the coils too though. Any ideas where I could get some of those?

netercol
05-20-2005, 02:14 PM
hmmm.. maybe i should look at removing some stuff off the front. like i said ,its just a tiny bit heavy, not all that noticable. as for the valve covers, i bought the motor complete as a import,as i said i believe it was a jdm only motor ,i had to import some stuff i needed,so i imagine you will have a hard time getting hold of them separate. pity we cant swap, i was looking for a twin's inlet manifold at the start of my project, i thought it would make for less convoluted intercooler piping.. sorry dude

nvrps13
05-20-2005, 03:41 PM
Just wanted to give the ultimate props on both swaps beautifuly done.As for the vg30et swap isnt this the motor found on the older z31?Or nissan gloria found in japan only I think the intake manifold is same as the 87-88 maxima's.I did a simular swap on a 92 maxima with the 88se vg30et block seems only on this year block its the same as the z32,I think I will try this swap on a 95-96 240sx and see.(http://www.turbomaxima.com/modules.php?set_albumName=album02&op=modload&name= gallery&file=index&include=view_album.php)

netercol
05-21-2005, 12:43 AM
just to clarify this once and for all, that is a vg30 D-E-T!! DOHC! single turbo .. NOT VG30-ET .this motor was not fitted outside japan ,from there the confusion i think.. http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/smile.gif

quest
05-21-2005, 06:09 AM
>>"anybody else done this"
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I didn't, but as mentioned above, I rode in one over 5 years ago.
I was even offered the car at 'crackhead' price, but I'd hate working on it no less than my z32 tt I'm sure. (supposed to enjoy a hooby)
He ran the stock turbos with 2 wing mounted moded dsm? intercoolers.
No mafs, had ducts coming foward from each turbo.
Aftermarket springs/dampers, didn't feel "nose-heavy" to me at all
No weight reducton. A/C still in, but not workin' at the time
Install was oem quality, except tach read off

300sx black coupe is as clean as it gets tho


>>"As for the vg30et swap isnt this the motor found on the older z31?"
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Yes the vg30ET is z31. I prefer this swap in an s13. Its narrower and faaarrr easier to work on than the dett - runs/revs very smooth too. I would simply have put the turbo out front like a buick GN. Have you seen what power & torque z31 guys get boosting bone stock pathfinder vg30E motors ?! They rip! I actually bought a z31 turbo donor before my s13, then realised I'm not gonna keep my s13, so went ca18det a few years back instead. No regrets
That kinda swap is a few days swap around here

CorollaSR5
05-31-2005, 03:18 PM
hey robbie ... nice car ... you know my brother Chris Sterling lol im matt http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/cool.gif

FreeThinker
06-01-2005, 04:21 AM
Congratulations, very nice work and beautiful car.

Can you post more pictures and info on your brake/clutch setup please. I am putting my Q45 powered S13 together and my booster defintiely wont fit. I have thought about using a 210 booster or something else small but would ratehr just do what you did, or go to non-power wilwoods etc.

I am especially curious how you set up the 90 degree linkage since I have found thats about eh only way to do an interior mount booster. I thought about just moving everything rearward so the booster would be inside, but it will hit the steering shaft fro what I can tell.

Thanks in advance,

TEKVICIOUS
06-01-2005, 06:27 AM
Yes the vg30ET is z31. I prefer this swap in an s13. Its narrower and faaarrr easier to work on than the dett - runs/revs very smooth too. I would simply have put the turbo out front like a buick GN.-quest

A friend of mine and I did that a few years ago. Plus an BUNCH of other mods. T40E up front. I've lost all the pics and the car is now history (sigh), but it was a cool project.

Fred_Allen_Burge
06-02-2005, 01:03 PM
It looks like you have custom stainless PS lines, true?

allen

300sx
06-02-2005, 04:14 PM
Correct.

Fred_Allen_Burge
06-02-2005, 08:50 PM
Do you mind telling who made them and what the cost was?

thanks,
allen

Broaner
06-02-2005, 09:29 PM
Allen man, you aren't gonna need power steering. Did you not look at those pics before you posted them? Your weight is all on the rear. I just pulled my PS last week and driving with it off is no problem and that is w/ the heavy @ss KA.

300sx
06-02-2005, 11:00 PM
Allen, I made the lines. Its basic -6 power steering line and fittings on the pressure side and just regular -6 on the return line. Had to weld an AN fitting on the pump banjo though and use some metric flare (not sure exactly what thread or flare) to -6 male fittings on the rack.

Fred_Allen_Burge
06-03-2005, 07:31 AM
Broaner,
You might be right but I really don't want any compromises on this swap (excluding AC that is) plus I'm a big fan of powerful power steering such as Lexus uses. Also I've driven a factory non PS MR2 and it sucked so I'm not sure if I'd like it w/o PS but I may try it for a while.

allen

Fred_Allen_Burge
06-03-2005, 07:36 AM
Allen, I made the lines. Its basic -6 power steering line and fittings on the pressure side and just regular -6 on the return line. Had to weld an AN fitting on the pump banjo though and use some metric flare (not sure exactly what thread or flare) to -6 male fittings on the rack.



Thanks, looks great as usual. I'm trying to take some extra time on my project and pay attention to the details like you did. Can you describe how you relocated your fuse boxes?

allen

300sx
06-03-2005, 08:45 AM
They're basically tucked under where they normally sit. Not much rewiring that way.

Broaner
06-03-2005, 11:46 AM
Allen, I just assumed if you're going to go the extent of relocating the fuse boxes you wanted to do anything and everything possible to clean the engine bay. I think I told you over on the .org but I'm seriously running nothing but the motor. I will have no windsheild wipers, sprayers, AC, PS, heat, etc...

300ZX, how long did it take to get that driveshaft fabbed and shipped? Obviously I'm not going to be able to estimate the length so I'm going to have to order it up once I can measure. That brings me to another point. What length exatly do you measure?

Fred_Allen_Burge
06-03-2005, 12:37 PM
Broaner,
No, I didn't realize you were going that route. I suppose it's a track car or just an extra "play" car, right?
I wish I could go that route too, it makes for the best looking engine bay by far and the easiest to work in. If drivability/fuel economy wasn't an issue I'd run carbs for the ultimate in a clean engine!

allen

300sx
06-03-2005, 01:07 PM
Broaner, it only took about a week to get the driveshaft and they didn't even have the right ends in stock (pretty sure they usually do). Call Driveshaft Specialist Inc. up when you get to the point where you need to measure and they'll guide you through it, its real simple. Their number is 866-455-6622.

julio
06-14-2005, 08:56 PM
Its amazing how much work you put into your car. Far more than most. I found this thread about your car after I had the same idea for the swap. A little while ago I bought a wrecked z32 with a freshly rebuilt motor, and have started preparing the swap. Do you have an email address you could either PM me or tell me. I have a few questions that I hope you wouldn't mind answering about the wiring. My email address is AJMShred@hotmail.com. The help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.

Broaner
06-14-2005, 10:49 PM
Thanks for the info guys. I hope to be ready for the driveshaft measuring by next week.

sleepin99
06-21-2005, 07:21 AM
i just wanted to know what the specs are on your turbo.
trim, a/r's, t3 or t4 or t3/t4, hp rating. i would also like to know when you are hitting boost in the rpm band and when you are reaching full boost in the rpm band. last question is, is the car lagging becasue of the crossover to the turbo? thanks in advance. you can also email me the info at

vqpwrd240@yahoo.com

240Z_TwinTurbo
06-21-2005, 03:51 PM
Very nice job on the setup and I always like to see people doing things different with the custom fab work. Also, I like the fact that you kept the car looking simple on the exterior. I can't stand the riced look. Big props on the finished product.
BTW, the other setup shown had a DOHC motor not VG?

asad
06-21-2005, 04:37 PM
BTW, the other setup shown had a DOHC motor not VG?



Hmm?? VG30DE/DETT is DOHC.

Asad

steve shadows
06-22-2005, 12:32 AM
yeah specs on the turbo would be great.

I give you guys a lot of respect. Keep on pushing the limits, its nice to see people who have actually done it.

I just wish my monetary limits and college costs would not keep me back.

I give you guys great respect.

300sx
06-22-2005, 09:11 AM
The turbo is a Precision pt61 (t4) w/a .58 ex housing and a t04s compressor housing.

240Z_TwinTurbo
06-22-2005, 12:02 PM
BTW, the other setup shown had a DOHC motor not VG?



Hmm?? VG30DE/DETT is DOHC.

Asad


I am used to seeing my buddies 88 300zxt SE that uses the VG30ET with does not have the DOHC. For some reason I was thinking VQ http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

julio
06-22-2005, 09:02 PM
The turbo is a Precision pt61 (t4) w/a .58 ex housing and a t04s compressor housing.



Did you use the 300zx fuel pump controller and relay on your setup?? I plan on just rewiring my setup without the controller. I think my walbro will work fine with the different voltages that the ecu puts out. I am interested in how you wired your setup.

300sx
06-22-2005, 11:19 PM
I didn't wire up any of that pump controller stuff. Just running a 255 in tank with a relay (triggered off the stock fuel pump wire) straight off the battery for more volts.

julio
06-25-2005, 09:25 PM
I didn't wire up any of that pump controller stuff. Just running a 255 in tank with a relay (triggered off the stock fuel pump wire) straight off the battery for more volts.



Is there any way I can talk to you (AIM?) one on one about how you accomplished your wiring for the relays? I am about to start making my mounts for the tranny and motor and measure for the driveshaft, but I want to try and get the wiring set in my mind before I actually re-wire the car to fire up. THanks.

Avery
07-17-2005, 07:03 PM
was your car originally automatic or manual, because automatic brake boosters are bigger which would have made it harder to squeeze the motor in or not.

I ask this because im planning to put in a vg into my rhd silvia and i dont want to relocate brakes, nor turbo's but that my not be an option

Chezecow
01-05-2006, 07:29 AM
Sorry to pull a topic this old up gain, but im starting the same swap for a 200sx RS13. Are there any updates on this subject?

julio
01-06-2006, 01:51 PM
Sorry to pull a topic this old up gain, but im starting the same swap for a 200sx RS13. Are there any updates on this subject?



A lot of information can be found on this site. Myself, 300sx and Omega have all done this swap before. Research it through the search function. Thats what I did to get my car running.

Also feel free to ask some questions.

Chezecow
01-10-2006, 02:20 PM
Ok thanks http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/smile.gif

I just have this strange feeling that I might just ask a load of questions when I really start working on the swap http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Ill keep you updated, and probably start a topic for the conversion when I have something to post (pics etc.).

julio
01-11-2006, 04:09 PM
Ok thanks http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/smile.gif

I just have this strange feeling that I might just ask a load of questions when I really start working on the swap http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Ill keep you updated, and probably start a topic for the conversion when I have something to post (pics etc.).



Yes, there are a lot of modifications that you have to make. Just off the top of my head:

power steering
alternator
motor mounts/modified cross member
tranny mounts
fuel lines
radiator/heater core hoses
shifter
exhaust
intake piping

and of course the wiring. I had to tear my harness apart and lengthen/move them to the other side of the motor so that they would be on the same side as the stock fuse/relay box.

Choosing to either use the j30 oil pan or the stock z32 pan makes a big difference also.

Very worth it to have the power/torque enhancements in the car though. Good luck with your swap. You will learn a lot. Was it you that IM'd me the other day by the way????

Chezecow
01-15-2006, 09:31 AM
Yes, it was me that mailoed you. My email has changed tough, its willem(dot)van(dot)schevikhoven(at)gmail(dot)com. So if you sent a reply i didnt get it.
I have tought of modifying the original sump, makin way for the PS and adding the volume on the front,or somewhere where it can be added, ill make a custom crossmember so the only thing runnin trough would be the PS rack.