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Ovrated
05-10-2005, 05:29 PM
I finally got almost everhthing i need.. a few more parts are on the way, and she will be ready to put back together.. i cant stand just seeing the car sit in the garage doing nohting

the parts are going to the machine shop prolly tomorrow so they can install the pistons, rods, bearings, and some much needed other things.

all in all, the motor should be back together and in the car by the end of the month, if not beginning of next..

this stuff+fullrace manifold+nice big turbo= too fast for me


pics


http://idahostreetracing.com/gallery/albums/Full-Build/147_4748_IMG.sized.jpg
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what do you gusy think..

gatecrasher
05-10-2005, 05:33 PM
id toss that head gasket.

killjoy
05-10-2005, 05:56 PM
id toss that head gasket.



Hahahaha, I was thinking the same thing before I even saw your reply. Great minds think alike. I had this great negative comment thought up adn Gates stole it.

gsracer
05-10-2005, 06:26 PM
id toss that head gasket.





HAHAHAHA +3

Ovrated
05-10-2005, 06:45 PM
its going bye bye.. apexi here i come.

it was just int he same pile of parts... so i took a pic..

but other than that.. what you gusy think

kovert
05-10-2005, 07:33 PM
NIIIICE.. now give me some money!

where did you get step 2 272 from? PS..invest in slicks an a clutch able to support 500whp

Enthalpy
05-10-2005, 07:43 PM
why do you have eagle rods and ARP SR rod bolts??

kovert
05-10-2005, 07:46 PM
why do you have eagle rods and ARP SR rod bolts??

cause someone probably told him that eagle rod bolts suck.

SRFiveTen
05-10-2005, 08:12 PM
may be that same someone should tell him that the big end of them rods were already sized with the "eagle/arp" rod bolts and by changing the hardwares, well, who really cares huh?

Ovrated
05-10-2005, 08:21 PM
i was origianally going to go with stock rods. but i got a good deal on the rods, so i got them, and havent sold the bolts yet

slow6brick
05-10-2005, 08:43 PM
you think those rods are going to hold 500whp for an extended period of time? let me know when they dont.

S14_James
05-10-2005, 08:49 PM
2000 miles, so far so good on the eagles.
-James

kovert
05-10-2005, 08:51 PM
you think those rods are going to hold 500whp for an extended period of time? let me know when they dont.

got proof that they wont? i love how people come on here talking [censored] about parts they know nothing about.

i have over 6k miles and a [censored] load of abuse and decent power on my eagle rods.

Ovrated
05-10-2005, 11:06 PM
you think those rods are going to hold 500whp for an extended period of time? let me know when they dont.



hey noob.. dont post [censored] you dont know about.. dont be jelous cause i have all this [censored], you dont..

buscher has them in his race car.. with over 800HP.. hasnt touched the bottom end in 2 seasons..

stick to facts, and shut the hell up

nissandet240
05-10-2005, 11:42 PM
dam dude... it seems that you just went broke..
Whap HP figures are u shooting at. http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/cool.gif

nismodave
05-11-2005, 01:09 AM
What is wrong with Greddy Head Gaskets????? http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/confused.gif

Ovrated
05-11-2005, 01:13 AM
barely broke..

greddy has problems sealing right, or so i have read on FA

nismodave
05-11-2005, 01:23 AM
Damn....I wish I knew this Last winter B4 I put my Greddy in.

But I have not had any problems........Knock on wood... http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

NOSTALGIC_HERO
05-11-2005, 07:00 AM
use the money from those sold rod bolts to offset the cost of a new OEM SR harness... no sense getting new ems, and using 10+ year old wiring... not bad tho

Enthalpy
05-11-2005, 07:01 AM
you think those rods are going to hold 500whp for an extended period of time? let me know when they dont.



hey noob.. dont post [censored] you dont know about.. dont be jelous cause i have all this [censored], you dont..

buscher has them in his race car.. with over 800HP.. hasnt touched the bottom end in 2 seasons..

stick to facts, and shut the hell up




dude...you just picked on the wrong guy. post count is not equal to performance. here is slow6brick's dyno graph from when i tuned the car.

http://web.tampabay.rr.com/enthalpy/dynos/sr-fullrace-264s2-greddy-gt3040-25psi.jpg

(cut and paste address)

so slow yer roll

I am building another Car for Slow6 for response tune and are seriously considering eagles due to their light weight. i am sure his quesiton was serious. because if they hold up to 500 they will hold up at 400-450 just fine.

relax junior...

PowerdBY007
05-11-2005, 07:22 AM
um.. what about a ROCKER ARM STOPPER??

Enthalpy
05-11-2005, 07:30 AM
rocker arm stoppers DO NOT DO ANYTHING unless you have a valvefloat situation.

Pearlrps
05-11-2005, 07:35 AM
What size CP Pistons are those? I plan on getting some forged pistons and rods to go with my Tomei 2.2 crank.

ItzGenX
05-11-2005, 08:06 AM
What size CP Pistons are those? I plan on getting some forged pistons and rods to go with my Tomei 2.2 crank.



You will need either a shorter rod or piston for use with that crank. A normal SR rod and piston will slam into the head due to the increased stroke.

killjoy
05-11-2005, 08:21 AM
you think those rods are going to hold 500whp for an extended period of time? let me know when they dont.



hey noob.. dont post [censored] you dont know about.. dont be jelous cause i have all this [censored], you dont..

buscher has them in his race car.. with over 800HP.. hasnt touched the bottom end in 2 seasons..

stick to facts, and shut the hell up




dude...you just picked on the wrong guy. post count is not equal to performance. here is slow6brick's dyno graph from when i tuned the car.

http://web.tampabay.rr.com/enthalpy/dynos/sr-fullrace-264s2-greddy-gt3040-25psi.jpg

so slow yer roll

I am building another Car for Slow6 for response tune and are seriously considering eagles due to their light weight. i am sure his quesiton was serious. because if they hold up to 500 they will hold up at 400-450 just fine.

relax junior...



Says Im not authorized to view it Scott. C'mon, don't tease:)

asad
05-11-2005, 08:57 AM
Says Im not authorized to view it Scott. C'mon, don't tease:)



Copy and paste the link. Not that impressive though, just a 500whp/400lb-ft dyno graph http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/shocked.gif

Also, looks like you've got Crower retainers there (Titanium?). I thought those were supposed to suck too.

Asad

Enthalpy
05-11-2005, 09:00 AM
Says Im not authorized to view it Scott. C'mon, don't tease:)



Copy and paste the link. Not that impressive though, just a 500whp/400lb-ft dyno graph http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/shocked.gif

Also, looks like you've got Crower retainers there (Titanium?). I thought those were supposed to suck too.

Asad



thank you asad!! yes cut and paste the link. post edited to reflect so...

killjoy
05-11-2005, 09:04 AM
Was that with a .82 3040? Thats the one that was in the red car that you guys were selling right?

Ovrated
05-11-2005, 12:53 PM
sorry enthalpy, i just dont like people knocking what im trying to do...

the eagle rods will hold just fine, and if not, i guess ill be the first to find out..

nostalgic- my harness is pretty close to new

BlackBomber
05-11-2005, 01:43 PM
Also, looks like you've got Crower retainers there (Titanium?). I thought those were supposed to suck too.

Asad



i heard the retainers are ok but the cams suck.

slow6brick
05-11-2005, 06:01 PM
thanks scott. and yes i was asking in reference to if they hold for a long period of time. you should watch your mouth when you talk about me. i had a 500whp car long before alot of guys on this board had one...and buy the way, the rods arent that indestructable. go on honda tech and see a few guys have had them fail to do bolt design or other reasons. oh yeah, i had one fail too on me in my honda days on my 220 whp 2L all motor block...thats another reason i ask...glad you think i am a noob...never judge a book by its cover

tomeiedsr20
05-11-2005, 09:00 PM
thank you sweet pick, lay off the "high and mighty" while someone else builds your car. And by judging a book by its cover, if you think that you can throw in your age as a reason for being more knowlegable you might think about being more mature. http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/rolleyes1.gif

slow6brick
05-12-2005, 05:40 AM
last time i checked i helped build that car since it was mine. and the one before it. and the book by its cover has nothing to do with age, it deals with post count. i am younger than enthalpy. i never claimed to know more than anyone, but i have been there and done that a long time before alot on this board have...same thing with hondas. i was doing 2L blocks before they were the thing to do

ItzGenX
05-12-2005, 08:31 AM
thanks scott. and yes i was asking in reference to if they hold for a long period of time. you should watch your mouth when you talk about me. i had a 500whp car long before alot of guys on this board had one...and buy the way, the rods arent that indestructable. go on honda tech and see a few guys have had them fail to do bolt design or other reasons. oh yeah, i had one fail too on me in my honda days on my 220 whp 2L all motor block...thats another reason i ask...glad you think i am a noob...never judge a book by its cover



Not starting a whole war or anything, just commenting on the situation. Eagle rods for Honda apps used smaller, slimmer arp bolts previously (5/16"). Eagle has then updated to a larger size (3/8") to resolve the caps from letting go in higher power apps. The SR rods that Eagle offers were never offered in the 5/16" arp 2000's (24 ft/lbs). They have always came with the 3/8" arp 2000's (43 ft/lbs) which the Honda rods now use also.

Enthalpy
05-12-2005, 08:39 AM
thanks for the info...thats why the question was asked http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/smile.gif

MATT_BACK_VASS
05-12-2005, 12:25 PM
i would like to run eagle rods in a high cam high comp VE.

slow6brick
05-12-2005, 01:04 PM
see thats useful info, good post...now i know what i am looking at. so yes spoolin, it appears that eagle rods are a good choice. it was between eagle and carillo rods for me and this info may have an effect on the outcome

Ovrated
05-12-2005, 01:10 PM
for me it was eagle or stock.. stock can handle alot of abuse, or so i have seen(even though i managed to bend one)

so i figured for the $300. it was worth it to be a little safer..

the pistons and rods seem lighter than the stockies.. havent actually weighed them... but it seems that way

Enthalpy
05-12-2005, 01:24 PM
the eagles are at least 100g lighter per rod. that is why we are looking into them for response tune application.

slow6brick
05-12-2005, 07:15 PM
yes and as stated for the price you cannot beat them. compare that price and weight to carillo. carillo is double the price and similar weight. your cp pistons are a good investment all the way around. stock pistons are ok for stock motors or mild build ups. but do it right and shoot for high numbers use the cp's. i used to be a fan of endyn/wiseco pistons but looking at some CP and talking with enthalpy and mattback, the CP's are a very good design/value also

kovert
05-12-2005, 08:26 PM
I love my eagle rods, I got 'em for a good price ( heavy throttle ), they have put up with some bad tunes, a fair share of pining, and have held up to everything i've been able to throw at them.

SRFiveTen
05-13-2005, 02:19 AM
but looking at some CP and talking with enthalpy and mattback, the CP's are a very good design/value also


as with many of automotive trends and fads, the info on cp flew east from so.cal. http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/cool.gif

MATT_BACK_VASS
05-13-2005, 08:07 AM
Ah yes, but CP's were only decided to be better not after words from soCAL, but after talking to the engineers at SEMA and PRI.

slow6brick
05-13-2005, 02:08 PM
yeah pri and darius had a lot to do with CP or i would be buying endyn/wiseco still...

steve shadows
05-13-2005, 03:49 PM
thanks scott. and yes i was asking in reference to if they hold for a long period of time. you should watch your mouth when you talk about me. i had a 500whp car long before alot of guys on this board had one...and buy the way, the rods arent that indestructable. go on honda tech and see a few guys have had them fail to do bolt design or other reasons. oh yeah, i had one fail too on me in my honda days on my 220 whp 2L all motor block...thats another reason i ask...glad you think i am a noob...never judge a book by its cover



anyone with money can build a dyno queen, honda tech has no wieght with me, how can you compare two completley different engines in order to determine whether or not a rod will break or not. Last time i check honda rods from eagle are differnt than sr rods? or am i wrong on that. No one should watch their mouth everyone should just think a little before they explode on people on here. Everyone is soo quick to get all pissy and defensive, and thats why its hard for me believe half of you blokes half of the time.

-steve

SRFiveTen
05-13-2005, 07:17 PM
Ah yes, but CP's were only decided to be better not after words from soCAL, but after talking to the engineers at SEMA and PRI.


you judge the product by talking to engineers at trade shows?
and since when did team enjuku become the authority in judging automotive components?

i believe scott became impressed with cp pistons when he received and laid his hands on them after he ordered a set per recommendation from estevan.

before estevan was informed of cp, i believe the hottest set up was je or wiseco.
did you have a chat with the engineers from those companies too?

look up some old posts, there were people asking "what's cp?" and i am sure up until some trade show you attended, you didn't know what the hell cp was.

heck i even recommended estevan to attend a pri show.
back then, the question was, "what's pri?" "it's a sema show for racers, no mini vans, no neon lights, no spinners."

btw, i don't care to represent the west coast.

if it wasn't for some great american automotive parts manufacturers, there wouldn't be any affordable forged pistons, rods and what not.
my 18 years or so of life devoted in automotive industry and the contacts i have established do contribute to my knowledge of quality components and manufacturers.

i didn't need to visit a booth to know where great pistons were being offered; just listening to some great mentors with almost 50 years experience in building high performance engines and passing on a name was enough to impresss scott, but apparently, you needed to talk to some engineers.

btw, the same old mentor steered me away from them "offshore rods" with wings.
offshore because they were, at least back few years ago, being manufactured in asia some where under some eyebrow raising iso-8999 or something like that.

cwdmark
05-13-2005, 08:20 PM
i always thought wiseco and crower were good names http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/cool.gif

NOSTALGIC_HERO
05-14-2005, 06:41 AM
Chuck is 100% correct. that was all information that i was given almost 2 years ago.

of course, everybody learns new things, PRI was a blast, and for 2005, it will be held here in Orlando FL, a HUGE help for the general public locally in Florida (For those that know/can get in)

matt/scott... dont forget the main bearing cap phonecall....the 8mm threaded hole....hehe wow that was a while ago! point is, we all got started on broadening the SR knowledge base from personal experience rougly 2-2.5yrs ago... way later than socal. but in the 2.5yrs since, i feel we have caught up significantly.

but in defense/explanation of Matt's post, Scott and i spent 2 days bothering Cosworth, JE, Wiseco, darius@CP, Ross, etc etc at PRI- and learned yet even new twists to what is around us...

remember chuck, my phonecall to you, telling you about the eagle-ARP rodbolts.....



this community is great guys!

slow6brick
05-14-2005, 02:27 PM
well fill us in estevan about the rod bolts. how many times have you and i sat at in enjuku and discussed whats a quality product or not. chuck knows his stuff, theres no 2 ways about that but whats the deal? from his previous post seems he thinks eagles are not ideal or at least quality control problems. from others posts, they seem to hold up just fine. so what the deal with the rod bolts?

SRFiveTen
05-15-2005, 01:11 AM
remember chuck, my phonecall to you, telling you about the eagle-ARP rodbolts.....


hmmm, no, sorry, i don't.
but i recall visiting their booth at '04 sema with you and kinda snickered about what i thought of the branded bolts.

Turbob15sentra
05-15-2005, 09:36 PM
Apparently.. the Eagle rods are questionable because of discrepency in the steel that is used. The rods are made in China.. The quality of steel is questionable. Not saying that they aren't machined well.. or anything bad about Chinese stuff.. but there can be variations. With that said... I made 661whp with Chinese made rods.. They were bought from Saenz in Florida. They were beefed up with ARP rod bolts.. I tossed the cheap ones that the rods came with.

Travis

slow6brick
05-16-2005, 08:44 AM
and another guy on this board made 613whp with those eagle rods...hmmmm, somethings got to give http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/confused.gif