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driftfactory
05-22-2005, 03:26 PM
Well, we after a long wait our motor is here. Click here to check it out (http://www.driftfactory.com/dfcar.php) http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/wink.gif

cwdmark
05-22-2005, 07:22 PM
nice, ive been following the updates of this car since you've been building it.

but the car is for drift, right? isnt rb26 a little overkill? don't get me wrong, i want one http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/grin.gif

driftfactory
05-22-2005, 08:57 PM
I never said I was sane http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/wink.gif

SoSideways
05-22-2005, 09:07 PM
Very nice man. Glad to see that your car's finally got a friggin motor in it.

It's Ernest from Melbourne btw http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Get the car done so I can see it on TV and such!

big_bada_boom
05-22-2005, 09:20 PM
Looks pretty good for a car with a few bolt-ons and a planned RB-swap. http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/wink.gif


Just curious, are you planning on competing in Formula D with that car??

LoafY
05-23-2005, 12:46 AM
Ernest, I don't think that Jason actually does the posting for them...

Anyhow, the car should be pretty sweet. Good work so far peeps.

nrgonline
05-23-2005, 01:03 AM
very nice..
there's no way you're going to be able to drift with that motor. It's going to be front heavy.
I guess this is a show car aka fake track car?

driftfactory
05-23-2005, 01:40 AM
The RB weight issue has been largely over emphasized, almost to urban legend status. Yes, it is a few hundred pounds heavier than the KA or SR. But only a small portion of that is extra weight over the front axel. A large portion of the extra weight comes from the transmission which sits near center on the car. (Weight center not physical center) Even with this weight shift the carís handling is not going to be disturbed to any significant degree. With proper suspension tuning it can be easily overcome. Sure the handling will be different, but a weight shift of a few percentage points is barely worth noting unless you are in a formula one car.

cwdmark
05-23-2005, 07:39 AM
you could always just put a couple subs in the back. http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/cool.gif

big_bada_boom
05-23-2005, 08:32 AM
If you figure on a stripped car of 2400lbs when it has an SR in it, add-in an additional 300 lbs up front. Granted it is not in front of the front axle, but most of the weight goes to the front wheels. And a 5% change towards the front is not usually desired.

JimStinksAtDorifto
05-23-2005, 09:53 AM
Clearly an advanced topic, a pic of a front clip.

s13SRmadness
05-23-2005, 10:11 AM
get that car built and have a driver take it to formula d.
do it quick so these morons will stfu
it really has become an urban legend.
"i heard if you put in an rb that when you try and turn left the car goes right...."

NOSTALGIC_HERO
05-23-2005, 10:21 AM
yawn.

slideways2004
05-23-2005, 05:51 PM
umm, it is an urban legend. chris kregorian has a rb25 in his s13. it drives like a champ

EggMan
05-23-2005, 07:41 PM
yawn.



snore.

Over_Center
05-23-2005, 08:04 PM
The Snap-tite drift car. Seam weld the car, but bolt in the cage ?

TheRiotHero
05-23-2005, 09:03 PM
put SR and a diff in it, learn how to drive it.

LoafY
05-23-2005, 09:48 PM
Simmer down guys damn. Jason of Drift Factory has been into 240s for quite some time. Usually does things a bit differently from everyone else and this is no exception. Sure someone's done it, but it's a lot more unique then the same old SR (and I have an SR http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/grin.gif ).

I just wanna see the whole thing come together and work out. If it falls on it's face, flame then... for now why not just give props or constructive criticism? At the very least, they documented the steps pretty well which should help in your never ending newb flaming posts.

driftfactory
05-24-2005, 01:09 AM
Thanks Loafy, and yes I do post sometimes http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/wink.gif

As far as learning to drive, I covered that loooong ago. I was drifting before drifting was cool. Back when loafy and Sosideways had their F-bodys (you knew I was going to mention that) hehehe.

Mav1178
05-24-2005, 01:34 AM
No front anti-roll bar. Lovely.

Good luck getting that nice looking cage past tech at a competition.

-alex

driftfactory
05-24-2005, 02:16 AM
The cage has been addressed at length in the past. As I said on the site, when the time comes that we need a cage that will pass certain tech requirements, one will be installed. The main reason that we chose the Cusco cage at this point was to show people who are looking to install a bolt in cage how to do it.

flip240
05-24-2005, 02:52 AM
great looking car in the making!! wish I had the time and resources to do that sorta thing, i'm jealous!! http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/grin.gif

On another note, why don't you guys who continue to blah blah about F/R weight distribution go build your own project. Lots of people talk about the theorized 'perfect' 50/50 F/R balance, but I bet barely 10% of that crowd can even drive their cars to be able to take that advantage to its potential.

mattmartindrift
05-24-2005, 07:38 AM
No front anti-roll bar. Lovely.

Good luck getting that nice looking cage past tech at a competition.

-alex




yeah, in what series do you plan on running with that show cage? Did you read any rules before you did that?

NOSTALGIC_HERO
05-24-2005, 07:51 AM
your right matt, mitch wright @SCCA would have a field day with that car if it entered for tech.. i wonder how fuel and fuel firewall will be adressed, fire system, electical. etc

(thank god we had somebody that knew how to make cages do rob's car, and modify matt's correctly)

you know better than i do that keeping it simple will ALWAYS save the day.


to the thread poster- its not that we dont like what your visioning... its just that the way you are going about it seems a bit ...well ... wierd.

remember - tech can become very scary when you have so much money/time/effort/travel expense invested.

mattmartindrift
05-24-2005, 07:58 AM
exactly, One of my largest expenses was meeting "simple" rules.

driftfactory
05-24-2005, 10:23 AM
Well, at this time the car is not slotted for either Formula D or D1. Don't get me wrong we would love to have it there. However, we simply do not have the time it would take to do a series right now. We have trouble finding the time to leave the office period. lol. I could see that happening in the future and at that time we will make any changes needed to pass tech. I have all of the tech requirements and I am familiar with them. They aren't that bad really. I've done both rally and GT in the past and neither the D1 nor Formula D rules are nearly as strict as those.

S13Sean
05-24-2005, 10:40 AM
Jason,

That suspension piece should be running next issue, give me a call. It's good to see that you finally got the RB!

asad
05-24-2005, 11:33 AM
No front anti-roll bar. Lovely.



Uh, it's still got the stock front bar.

Asad

Jsquared
05-24-2005, 11:56 AM
urban legend, my ass http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/rolleyes1.gif have any of you guys had an RB S13 cornerweighed?

driftfactory
05-24-2005, 01:28 PM
Corner weight varies depending on how the motor is mounted. Iíve seen figures as good as 53/47 and as bad as 58/42. But even assuming that you would end up between those two, itís something that can be corrected for. Cars are fluid designs and if you keep that in mind youíll realize that there is nothing that you canít do if you plan far enough ahead and take your time to do everything carefully.

What I find most funny about this whole thread, is that everyone that has decided to criticize the idea has latched on to the classic forum rumors about the RB swap and ignore the more difficult to solve problems. One that comes to mind is keeping this beast cool in a cramped S13 engine bay. There have been some RB26 swaps with Koyos, high cfm fans, ect, and they still overheat. But, with an N1 water pump and a coolant air catch can, Iím sure we will work that out too.

s13SRmadness
05-24-2005, 04:26 PM
urban legend, my ass http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/rolleyes1.gif have any of you guys had an RB S13 cornerweighed?


that guy markslidesquad has in his red silvia with rb. he drifts the hell out of it.
you guys read the internet and believe every stupid rumor you read. too bad really. http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/rolleyes1.gif

NOSTALGIC_HERO
05-24-2005, 07:28 PM
dont let this thread to go pieces over the weight issue, thats done and over with.

i will kill the next person that brings that up.

next questions:

1. how are you planning the cooling setup

2. oiling- what are you planning ahead for (this is where you will really have to admit what you plan on doing with that car)

3. gearing (ditto statment from question 2, but regarding gear choice and diff ring gear choice)

4. electrical (racecar? or 13yr old oem)

Jsquared
05-25-2005, 11:39 PM
that guy markslidesquad has in his red silvia with rb. he drifts the hell out of it.
you guys read the internet and believe every stupid rumor you read. too bad really.


driver skill != physics and REALITY. a good driver can drive anything.

and estevan I only half brought it up, so you can only beat me half to death http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

s13SRmadness
05-26-2005, 09:51 PM
that guy markslidesquad has in his red silvia with rb. he drifts the hell out of it.
you guys read the internet and believe every stupid rumor you read. too bad really.


driver skill != physics and REALITY. a good driver can drive anything.

and estevan I only half brought it up, so you can only beat me half to death http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/tongue.gif


why do you always argue to the death when you turn out to be wrong?
wtf is your problem?
stop talking when you dont know one way or another, please.
http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/grin.gif