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cingham
10-05-2005, 08:40 PM
I swear this fourm has died, I've been a long time reader.

I finally came across
http://www.vg30.com/510vg30stuff.html
and i'm deciding which way i want to go rx7 LS1 or go with a 510.

But the main question has anyone ordered from this company or can give some feed back on turn around timds

Five10PacksDE
10-05-2005, 11:09 PM
This forum is still alive! but only active once a week. Hee hee.
Anyways, about a 510, if I had teh money, I would rather go with a sr20det. It sounds as if you want a drag car. A 4cyl turbo would still give u more balance and already too much torque to hook up.
1)too front heavy with v6 and a super light rear
2)too much torque to peel out, which 510's are already not known to do good.0-60ft
sr20det would already have a bunch of power. 510 with sr20det is expensive, that is the only problem. If you want more cyl and a bad ass drag car, I would say a 510 is not a good choice. Just my opinion.

cingham
10-05-2005, 11:24 PM
This forum is still alive! but only active once a week. Hee hee.
Anyways, about a 510, if I had teh money, I would rather go with a sr20det. It sounds as if you want a drag car. A 4cyl turbo would still give u more balance and already too much torque to hook up.
1)too front heavy with v6 and a super light rear
2)too much torque to peel out, which 510's are already not known to do good.0-60ft
sr20det would already have a bunch of power. 510 with sr20det is expensive, that is the only problem. If you want more cyl and a bad ass drag car, I would say a 510 is not a good choice. Just my opinion.



well there are alot of assumptions in your reply. Most of the answers are no to them.

Demon
10-06-2005, 09:07 AM
I think VG30.com is dead. Try Team Thump http://www.teamthump.com Thats the problem with the Datsun 510 community, almost everyone has a crappy ecommerce site with no information. It would be nice to have detailed information on the web since that is how a lot of people make their purchases these days. Now if I only had the money to do my own fabrication business I think their would be a well that needed to be tapped.

Five10PacksDE
10-06-2005, 01:11 PM
This forum is still alive! but only active once a week. Hee hee.
Anyways, about a 510, if I had teh money, I would rather go with a sr20det. It sounds as if you want a drag car. A 4cyl turbo would still give u more balance and already too much torque to hook up.
1)too front heavy with v6 and a super light rear
2)too much torque to peel out, which 510's are already not known to do good.0-60ft
sr20det would already have a bunch of power. 510 with sr20det is expensive, that is the only problem. If you want more cyl and a bad ass drag car, I would say a 510 is not a good choice. Just my opinion.



well there are alot of assumptions in your reply. Most of the answers are no to them.



You talking about hte amount of money in the budget and/or drag racing?
If you are low on money, I hear u on that one. A vg30e is super cheap even though it is not good hp for weight STOCK form. I can imgine teh near 50/50 weight being lost in this cast iron beast. The sr20 already weighs more than the stock powerplant.

What are you building this car for? Street? drags? road race? autocross?

As far as a rx7 goes, I would keep the 13b already in there. NA or turbo, I love those rotaries. They ahve been proven in drag and road racing to compete very good. Why screw up the balance with a v8? That is why I got the idea that you wanted a drag car.

cingham
10-06-2005, 01:59 PM
well this fourm is'nt the one to talk about ls1 fd/fc swaps. But your wrong on the weight, but don't feel bad, everyone in that community is wrong

thanks for the other site

Five10PacksDE
10-06-2005, 06:31 PM
Well, how much does a ls1 setup weigh compared to a 13b? The rotary is a lil heavy with the cast iron side housings, but that weigh is located far back and low in the firewall. Weight is one factor, but a well built 13b is a awesome engine with a lot of potential.

Demon
10-07-2005, 05:07 PM
LS1 = 390lbs
13B = 300lbs (estimate)
L16 = 248lbs
Looks like the 13B is closer to L16 weight, plus it sits farther back so it could still be 50/50. LS1 you would lose traction unless you mounted that engine farther back or if you threw in a 9" rear end. If you want to drag race go with an RB25DET and get a 1,000 HP.

Demon
10-07-2005, 05:14 PM
After thinking about your post some more. It all depends on what car you prefer! I bet you would see more RX7's at the track than 510's. RX7's are going to be inexpensive to get them going down the track fast. I remeber a guy running high 11's with a TurboII and some of his mods were a boost controller, slightly larger turbine, modified intake, and a larger diameter exhaust. In my opinion if you went with a LS1 in an RX7 over a VG30 in a 510 then you are going to be happier with the RX7. Now if you were to rethink the 510 and go with an SR20DET and pump about 350 at the wheels then you are going to be extremely happy with it. Plus the coolness/shock factor would be greater than with the RX7, but of course this is all based on my opionion and you should of course do what you like best.

julio
10-10-2005, 01:57 PM
LS1 = 390lbs
13B = 300lbs (estimate)
L16 = 248lbs
Looks like the 13B is closer to L16 weight, plus it sits farther back so it could still be 50/50. LS1 you would lose traction unless you mounted that engine farther back or if you threw in a 9" rear end. If you want to drag race go with an RB25DET and get a 1,000 HP.



A 13B wieghs more than 300lbs. Wieght is one of the downsides to rotaries.

Demon
10-10-2005, 05:34 PM
Where have you obtained your information on the 13B weight? Just curious because I searched for reliable refrences when I conducted my search. The 13B block was supposedly 240lbs, I added 60lbs for the intake and exhaust manifold.

Five10PacksDE
10-11-2005, 02:41 PM
Not only that, the gearbox on a ls1 weighs more. For being a v8, that engine is realy light. For all around performance, I would prefer a car that was made for the ls1.
Anyways, what were your plans for your car? Daily, drift, drag, autocross, or/and road race?

Five10PacksDE
10-15-2005, 06:58 PM
Heeeellllllllooooooooooo. where did everyone go?

Kookz
10-17-2005, 12:21 AM
A 13B wieghs more than 300lbs. Wieght is one of the downsides to rotaries.

Not in the least.

Five10PacksDE
10-21-2005, 01:00 AM
smell my farts! Muahahah. Maybe that will wake you guys up. Hahaha

Demon
10-22-2005, 05:27 PM
The server this forum is hosted on is too slow, or I would post more.

3LiterDemon
06-04-2008, 06:09 PM
I emailed him for a current price list and he hit me back like the next day. I'm in the middle of my vg project myself and have considered using pieces of his kit.