View Full Version : se-r clutch and groaning noise from suspension

04-01-2001, 08:20 PM
i had another thread right before this one going...but perhaps i explained it wrong.

the clutch on the sentra se-r i just got feels very heavy...kinda like the cable is messed up. is this a frequent problem? cheap to fix? other than the fact that the pedal is hard to push, the engagement point seems normal and there is no slippage.

also, when moving in reverse or downshifting to engine brake, i get a groaning noise from the front right side of the car. could it be a bad shock/strut? or bad bearings? it doesn't make the noise at any other time.

thanks! http://www.freshalloy.com/

04-02-2001, 04:09 PM
As I mentioned to you before the clutch problem is as I descibed in my former post to you, and I will say that the clutch may not slip or release at any different point but will feel heavy or tight as you said if the pessure plate etc. is worn in the manner that I mentioned,a stiff cable on these cars is very very rare, as for the groaning noise I think it is unrelated if this makes sense,I simply think you have two seperate problems.

04-02-2001, 07:37 PM
ok, thanks again for the clutch response.

i realize that the groaning noise is a separate problem, but i finally got around to bringing the car to the mechanic. so, we'll see exactly what the root of every problem is.

oh, another thing: while i start the car, there is a "honking" sound coming from beneath the car. what do you think that could be? fuel pump possibly? the dealer that i bought it from said it was the alarm, has anyone heard of anything like that?

04-02-2001, 07:42 PM
one more thing about that clutch FLASSH, i have driven other cars with close to dead clutches that slip like no tomorrow, but this is so so heavy that i can feel my body jamming into the seatback.

i had the same problem on an 89 cabrio i had, a clutch cable fixed it. i'm just hoping that its not part of the clutch assembly because that would = lotsa $$s

04-03-2001, 02:51 PM
A heavy-feeling clutch can be due to sticky clutch cable or crap in the clutch release lever bearing. A clutch cable replacement would be a good place to start. Costs approx $40.

The groaning noise is from one or more worn motor mounts. Check for signs of wear or tearing. This might be a good time to upgrade to Energy Suspension motor mount inserts http://www.freshalloy.com/

04-03-2001, 04:20 PM
Ah yes, motor mounts!! Of course!! Good idea. how much do those run? expensive to replace if this is the case? thanks zoolander

04-05-2001, 05:29 AM
New motor mounts are good idea for high miles SE-Rs, anyway. I used OEM parts for the passenger and driver's side mounts, and Energy Suspension inserts for the front and rear mounts.

What I paid (from Courtesy Nissan):
Passenger Side Mount (11210-0M800) $66.66
Driver's Side Mount (11220-58Y00) $26.84
ES Torque Set (7-1105G) $34.95

You can go all OEM or all ES inserts. There is a ton of information in the SE-R List archives:

04-11-2001, 06:26 PM
OK! Overall synopsis of the car...got it back last friday, but haven't really had time to complain about the car cuz its so damn fun to drive! :b

FLASSH, you were right about the clutch...definitely internal. the cable was disconnected and it was running through the sheath freely, no binding whatsoever. Thanks for the info!

That honking sound coming from under the car when i start it..its the infamous SE-R starter squeal. I didn't realize before, but well, that's what it is. that fortunately, is being replaced under my warranty.

The groaning noise...the mechanic claims it to be rusty rotors, but i feel its the motor mounts. here's some more details i noticed while driving: The groaning/creaking noise is excessive while the car is cold, or when i first start it up. After the car has been running for ten minutes or so, it goes away, until i hit a large dip or bump with the right side of the car. the noise is always present when going in reverse, and is loud when downshifting to 3rd or 2nd gear. (that quiets down a tad when the car is warm).

So, being that its probably the motor mounts, would it be easy (or less than difficult) for a novice wrench turner like me to replace? if difficult, how much would labor cost?

All in all, good buy on the car..compression tests showed: 125, 100, 125, 123 in the cylinders. New oil and filter, coolant flush, and new plugs and wires. Rotors will be cut by my friends dad at Meineke, and a new clutch will be installed. The weight required to step on the pedal is getting VERY annoying. Anyone know what Nissan charges to do a complete clutch system? And motor mounts, no big deal i guess...if its not too expensive i'll get those done over the summer. That noise doesn't bug me that much.

Thanks for all your help guys! http://www.freshalloy.com/

04-12-2001, 05:25 PM
Thanks for confirming me to be correct on the clutch,I pride myself on knowing what is wrong with the right explenation of a problem,as for the groaning noise that you are describing I recommend that you take the swaybar bushings out,the ones that hold the swaybar to the floor and coat them in a grease like dialectric grease on both sides of the rubber and reinstall them and try your dip in the road test and you might find that the noise you are describing is gone,this is not that hard for you to do on your own,please let me know how you make out. http://www.freshalloy.com/

04-12-2001, 09:23 PM

thanks for the tip...i'll check that out this weekend. Hope this works..once again, i'll get back to you with the results.


04-17-2001, 06:31 PM

I greased up all the bushings on the front sway bar, but to no avail. http://www.freshalloy.com/ ah well.

however, i'm sure now that it is the front right engine mount/front insulator. i took a look at it, and it looks like it blew up http://www.freshalloy.com/

thanks everyone

05-15-2001, 07:32 PM
Oooooooh boy. Had this clutch replaced and finally got it back today. Stupid dealer had me waiting a week for a clutch cable. apparently driving with this pressure plate and a bad disc stretched it out a bit too much.

FLASSH, i had all the parts saved, and lo and behold, there's that groove on the pressure plate fingers.

600 dollars later, new clutch kit and cable, this is the lightest clutch i have ever driven. The pedal travel shortened considerably and its definitely a "knife through butter feeling". good ol' nissans http://www.freshalloy.com/

06-21-2001, 09:23 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial[/img]quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by zoolander:
A heavy-feeling clutch can be due to sticky clutch cable or crap in the clutch release lever bearing. A clutch cable replacement would be a good place to start. Costs approx $40.

The groaning noise is from one or more worn motor mounts. Check for signs of wear or tearing. This might be a good time to upgrade to Energy Suspension motor mount inserts http://www.freshalloy.com/<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


I replaced the passenger side motor mount. I looked at every other motor mount, no wonder this one wore out. its probably bears the weight of 50% of the engine itself. But, an hour of work and 70 bucks later, no more noise! Thanks for your help.


07-03-2001, 05:35 AM
FLASSH, or anyone....

Recently I've been having some strange intermitent clutch problems.

1)Clutch is hard to depress when starting car
2)Grinding noise when putting car into reverse.
3)A couple of times when the car was grinding, I couldn't get the shifter back into neutral. (I had to kill the engine)
4)Today on my way to work, I was downshifting and couldn't get into second gear. Then I came to a complete stop, and coouldn't get the car into 1st for about 3 minutes.

I had the dealership look at the car last week, but they couldn't reproduce the problem, and couldn't not find anything wrong with the clutch.

Any suggestions?