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Brian_W
05-21-2008, 12:17 AM
Well, i havent posted on here in awhile really and figured id start with the introduction of my new drift car for 2008. Its an S13 with and SR(whoopty dooooo!) but i find its setup to be rather unique for and SR so i figured id share. not only that but Ray and I here at the shop are huge fans of this engine and have brought all of out knowledge of the motors combined over the years and put it into this car. ... All while trying to get it together in a hurry for NopiDrift Round 1.

(Ive been posting pics in my thread on Ziptied but i know not everyone browses there.)

Well here are some pics of the chassis once i got all the cage work, welding, paint work, fiberglass panel fitting done...
http://a526.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/105/l_b18aa4e00003dbcfc6a2b7f92ca89bcd.jpg
http://a654.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/86/l_dff8e97ef34153404fb8ad4320c88e65.jpg
http://a62.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/52/l_3f5bc1a5d7467de7b10380cc04e6da6d.jpg
http://a667.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/14/l_edb04d0c803404cf63c5aede7fe0c8a2.jpg

and here are the engine shots from its progress as just a short block with rotating assembly in it....

well let start with some carage pics of my last motor. It spun a bearing... with roughyl 0 miles on it after losing all its oil when the oil filter broke off when i was out in Cali on a dyno @ midnight before Pro-Am.....

LOTS of heat in these bearings colors the rods....
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j123/JDMFresh/DSC_0192.jpg

And you can see bearing material imbedded into the oil pump gear...
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j123/JDMFresh/DSC_0193.jpg


Luckily im not putting THAT stuff back in an engine. So on to the new motor... hopefully ill have it all assembled tom. night.
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j123/JDMFresh/DSC_0190-1.jpg
got everything all layed out and cleaned except the hardware...
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j123/JDMFresh/DSC_0195.jpg

And i picked up my valve cover and accessory brackets from the powder coater today...
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j123/JDMFresh/DSC_0199.jpg
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j123/JDMFresh/DSC_0198.jpg
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j123/JDMFresh/DSC_0196.jpg

Got my hood! Thanks to the guys @ ORIGIN LAB!....
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j123/JDMFresh/DSC_0209-1.jpg
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j123/JDMFresh/DSC_0208.jpg

Put some more of the engine together and got my Bullseye Power Turbo back!!!.....

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j123/JDMFresh/DSC_0207.jpg
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j123/JDMFresh/DSC_0206.jpg

ARP Main Stud clearance...(i didnt like the idea of "grinding" the stud while i already had it in the motor.)
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j123/JDMFresh/DSC_0205.jpg



Heat? No. Coolant Leaks? No. .....
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j123/JDMFresh/DSC_0204.jpg
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j123/JDMFresh/DSC_0203.jpg
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j123/JDMFresh/DSC_0202.jpg

And Custom oversized stock replacement GRIFFIN Radiator.....

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j123/JDMFresh/DSC_0210.jpg
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j123/JDMFresh/DSC_0212.jpg
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j123/JDMFresh/DSC_0215.jpg

Well from that point, Ben and I here at the shop spent about 4 days working on the car (Ben during the day and myself at night )

Ben did the wiring and hooked me up with this sweet gauge cluster and switch panel also.

He also did my exhaust while i was handling some business.
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j123/JDMFresh/DSC_0274-1.jpg

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j123/JDMFresh/DSC_0273-1.jpg

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j123/JDMFresh/DSC_0269-1.jpg

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j123/JDMFresh/DSC_0270.jpg

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j123/JDMFresh/DSC_0271.jpg

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j123/JDMFresh/DSC_0275.jpg

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j123/JDMFresh/DSC_0276.jpg

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j123/JDMFresh/DSC_0277.jpg

Well after it was all together JR and I went to test it out @ Englishtown...

quick clip...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKE9zEd5mFU

Then after going through hell to get my car down to Florida for Nopi Drift Round 1 i ended up getting 2nd place! and having a good time hanging with some dudes from Texas and what not....

http://www.wreckedmagazine.com/gallery/albums/nopi/miami/day1/normal_nopimiami_saturday-221.jpg

Since then ive had some issues with blowing a hole in a piston and then bending some valves. all of which can be directly related to me working on the car half dead @ 3am ....which im no longer doing.

The car is coming back together now with a new fuel rail (modified SARD)and fresh bits in the motor and will be run on race gas from now on.

Specs on car:

Engine/Performance
MA-Motorsports Built S13 SR20DET
MBV/ MA-Motorsports Solid Valvetrain (thanks Matt!!)

Custom JE Pistons
Apexi Headgasket
Brian Crower 2.2L Stroker Kit
ATI Damper crank pulley
Brian Crower Stage 2 cams
Brian Crower Valve springs & retainer set.
Brian Crower Stainless Valves
Bullseye Power S200 Turbo
Griffin Custom Radiator
Griffin Custom Intercooler
Griffin Oil cooler
Kaaz 1.5way LSD
Exedy Twin Plate Carbon clutch
JUN GT Surge Tank Intake Manifold
Bullseye Power S256 Turbo .55AR w/ Stainless exh. housing.

Electromotive Tec GT ECU on OEM SR20 coils....



Suspension & Rims:
KW Competition Custom 2 way coilovers
BattleVersion adjustable suspension arms
MA-Motorsports Modded Subframe
Tein Inner and Outer Tie Rods
ES Bushings all around
17x9 Regamaster FRONT
18x9.5 Regamasters REAR
Z32 30mm Aluminum front calipers
Stoptech 2 piece floating front rotors


Exterior:
Version Select Body Kit
Origin 20mm front fenders
Origin 50mm rear fenders
Origin Type 2 Hood
Speedesign Custom Graphics

Interior:
World Electronics PBC-1 Boost controller
Buddy Club Narrow Bucket Seat
Sparco 5 point Camlock Driver side
Sparco 90mm dish wheel
Sparco Quick Release
MA-Motorsports 6 point Roll-cage and chassis work
Accusump Oil accumulator

98koukile
05-21-2008, 01:12 AM
Car looks sweet, nice work

xXrb25dettXx
05-21-2008, 02:23 AM
Dang man, that's some clean work....too bad it's gotta be pulled back out!

Did you fab up those reservoirs?

I dig the color scheme as well, FWIW.

Brian_W
05-21-2008, 02:56 AM
Dang man, that's some clean work....too bad it's gotta be pulled back out!

Did you fab up those reservoirs?

I dig the color scheme as well, FWIW.

yeah it was back out and back in. now its waiting for this fuel rail that im gonna have to sand the finish off of to weld brackets too:eek:

yes, i made the coolant resevoir. i know i could have just bought one from CS but i just felt like making something at the time. The PS resevoir is half my own and half a cheap aluminum one off ebay. i had to cut and shorten it and change the fittings. ill make my own next time as this one leaks at the top where the 2 pcs of can are stamped together.


and thanks!

the color scheme is cool in my book too, but im changing the vinyl so its more visible in pictures.:auto:

smracing
05-21-2008, 10:40 AM
Nice build. Where did you get your toggle switches? Do they illuminate or glow?

Brian_W
05-21-2008, 12:25 PM
Nice build. Where did you get your toggle switches? Do they illuminate or glow?


I actually got them from a vendor on ebay. Its a breaker panel with switches that sells for about $60.00 or so. Its for a marine application. They do glow... a green color. pretty slick for the price.... and having breakers built in is tough to beat.

xXrb25dettXx
05-21-2008, 12:30 PM
yes, i made the coolant resevoir. i know i could have just bought one from CS but i just felt like making something at the time. The PS resevoir is half my own and half a cheap aluminum one off ebay. i had to cut and shorten it and change the fittings. ill make my own next time as this one leaks at the top where the 2 pcs of can are stamped together.

Nice! It's always more satisfying to build custom stuff from scratch instead of getting raped for it!

Good work man, keep it up!

ChrisCheezer
05-21-2008, 08:02 PM
thats Disgusting!!

LouRocK
05-21-2008, 10:19 PM
insane.

jetdriver
05-22-2008, 02:55 PM
What valve cover is that? It is sloped like a s14/15 but no nvcs extension?

spanishricer
05-22-2008, 03:07 PM
What valve cover is that? It is sloped like a s14/15 but no nvcs extension?

Looks like he may have shaved it off before powercoating? That's the only explanation I can think of.

JVD240
05-22-2008, 04:47 PM
Looks like he may have shaved it off before powercoating? That's the only explanation I can think of.
It's two VC's cut and welded together.

tincan
05-22-2008, 06:14 PM
What are the mirrors from, sportbike? Car looks real good.

Brian_W
05-22-2008, 07:45 PM
It's two VC's cut and welded together.


Yes, its an S13 and S14 valve covers cut and welded together.




And the mirrors are from an 06 Ninja ZX636R. I used them due to my fiberglass doors not coming with anywhere to mount the mirror... so then i started thinking about my options and these things grew on me.




Thanks fellas!

spanishricer
05-22-2008, 09:36 PM
Yes, its an S13 and S14 valve covers cut and welded together.

Any particular reason why?

NOSTALGIC_HERO
05-22-2008, 11:14 PM
S14 valvecovers have oil/air separator built into the valvecover humps. This superscedes the external oil/air separator (the black canister on S13's that sits above the exhaust manifold)

This is a cost effective (albeit time intensive welding and smoothing v/c back together) method of getting the oil/air separator function while leaving room for a top mount manifold.

I think that in the future, If one were to do this again, that the top of the valvecover should have a machined window/cover that can be opened, to service and clean the steel screening.

McRussellPants
05-23-2008, 12:03 AM
Damn I totally didn't realize this thing was highport.

cool deal.

hope it gets put back together soon, should be a rocket.

Brian_W
05-23-2008, 02:02 AM
Nostalgic Hero is correct.


The S14 Valve cover is a better design with better baffling. I plan on making another 1 or 2 also just to have around, they do take a little while to jig up and cut perfectly though.





And yeah... high port!!! only way i could use that JUN plenum.


so as of today ive got a new fuel rail(SARD) and ive switched over to C16 and BKR8EIX plugs from 93 pump gas and BKR7E plugs.


Should be pretty awesome.

Its all strapped on the dyno and ready for tuning tom.

Brian_W
05-24-2008, 03:38 AM
Got the new fuel rail on and am now running race fuel and colder plugs. The car made 420something horsepower @ 18 psi....

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j123/JDMFresh/DSC_0403.jpg

...dont mind all the lines, i didnt clear out the runs where we were testing Tip in and throttle enrichment stuff.

and heres a couple more pics...

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j123/JDMFresh/DSC_0400.jpg

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j123/JDMFresh/DSC_0401.jpg



I gotta fix some PS leaks, change the oil, mount some tires and then im ready to go!


I CANT WAIT! to drive my car again.

wingFeather
05-27-2008, 02:18 PM
WOW! This is good stuff!

slow_s13
05-28-2008, 10:56 AM
car looks great! you guys do amazing work, are you doing the entire nopi drift schedule? if so can't wait to see it in person in columbus!

MAKAKO
05-28-2008, 11:32 AM
fukkkkk this makes my pee pee hard!!!

i'm goign to pickup my 3rd s13 chassis this weekend hm.. maybe i'll sell it .. maybe i'll finish my AE86 and then do teh s13..?? what you say?? i also got this isuzu 4x4 i gotta tackle.. big a$$ 33inch swampin tires! YEEEHAAWW lol

MAKAKO
05-28-2008, 11:34 AM
hm.. need soem more tuning on that bad boy. you should be upper 5's low 6 with all that crap you got in there..!! HORAAH!

Brian_W
05-28-2008, 12:56 PM
hm.. need soem more tuning on that bad boy. you should be upper 5's low 6 with all that crap you got in there..!! HORAAH!


at about 18 psi we are happy with the power the car makes. Dont forget this is ony a Dyno Dynamics so the "numbers" arent as high as they would be on your average dyno.

nvrps13
05-28-2008, 03:02 PM
Nice build ...was curious to how you like the turbo and were it makes its boost ...I have a t3 housing with t2 inlet from german bottom mount setup..The rest is the extended blah tip technology that bull eyes sells...

nelson8708
05-28-2008, 04:34 PM
clean build...i like the wheels in the first pictures.

shift76
05-29-2008, 05:19 PM
that does look like fun










Shift_

RiverEd
05-29-2008, 09:17 PM
I'm curious to know how do you hook the OEM Sr20 coils with the Electromotive. I whould like to do that with my TecIII. Count me in if you decide to make some of those PS resevoir for sale. Very nice car btw.

dentsportgarage
05-29-2008, 11:31 PM
That thing is serious. The front end is so aggressive! That shot of it on the DD is awesome. If that is a similar turbo to the one that was on the blue car at redline summit point, its the loudest turbo I have heard on anything gasoline powered. Sick build and really clean.

krazydriver
05-31-2008, 09:18 PM
wow :bowdown:
There should be a warning put on this thread, to put a bib on or something. i just drooled all over myself. Absolutely beautiful.

Brian_W
06-03-2008, 02:39 PM
That thing is serious. The front end is so aggressive! That shot of it on the DD is awesome. If that is a similar turbo to the one that was on the blue car at redline summit point, its the loudest turbo I have heard on anything gasoline powered. Sick build and really clean.


it is the SAME setup off that car.


im now actually thinking of going with a a Twin scroll version though. It all depends on how much i can sell my current full race manifold for.


I love this car! haha. Its running great, just gotta change the oil and keep ripping!


I might make a front under spoiler deal for it too, but i like the fact that its all together now and i dont have to work on it.... haha.







as for the SR coils on TEC ecu.. they work GREAT! we drove them down to Electromotive to have them bench tested and we were told they were some of the strongest oem COP style coils they had seen.

jerrseyDriver
06-03-2008, 02:58 PM
looks like a pretty standard sr drift car. nice

Brian_W
06-04-2008, 03:21 AM
looks like a pretty standard sr drift car. nice


haha thanks. i guess its hard to be different now a days!

steve shadows
06-04-2008, 12:09 PM
shucks you edged me out by 10 whp haha.

I'm still a stock sr btm end.

How's the BC kit workin for you?

I wanted to pick one up after I won the lottery in a year.

Brian_W
06-04-2008, 07:07 PM
works great. We normally cut the cranks down and take some wieght off if its a stock crank when we rev SRs this high, but this one i just left the BC billet crank as is and its holding up good.... granted i havent had it in for that long, but i dont feel as though itll be an issue.

240zx
06-05-2008, 11:59 AM
The car looks great! Keep up the good work!

GotDaDrift
06-05-2008, 12:05 PM
brian are you going to do the chrome with black outline like the old car had,cuz that was defvisable and looked real good too

RiverEd
06-13-2008, 12:33 AM
Hey Brian, I'm still interest to know how do you connect the OEM coils to the Electromotive. I would like to get rid of my Electromotive coils.

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o179/riveraedwin/After2.jpg

Brian_W
06-19-2008, 04:08 PM
RiverEd..... send me an email and ill try and get Ray to get you a diagram if thats what youd like.

RiverEd
06-19-2008, 11:49 PM
I just send you an email. :D

slideways2004
06-24-2008, 12:21 AM
That thing is serious. The front end is so aggressive! That shot of it on the DD is awesome. If that is a similar turbo to the one that was on the blue car at redline summit point, its the loudest turbo I have heard on anything gasoline powered. Sick build and really clean.

blue with red wheels??

spanishricer
06-24-2008, 01:22 AM
Can you go more in-depth with your power steering setup? I was looking to convert mine to AN fittings all around, but didn't know how much line I would be looking at with the top mount turbo setup and if there were going to be any clearance issues.

You said you custom made your PS reservoir, right? Did you sort out all the leaks?

Thanks.

idrive
06-24-2008, 11:03 AM
looks good guys, you were looking great at hyperfest!

Brian_W
06-26-2008, 03:40 PM
Can you go more in-depth with your power steering setup? I was looking to convert mine to AN fittings all around, but didn't know how much line I would be looking at with the top mount turbo setup and if there were going to be any clearance issues.

You said you custom made your PS reservoir, right? Did you sort out all the leaks?

Thanks.



the HP line is the one that we sell online.

the low pressure side is just earls parts and fittings.

the resevoir is a modified Canton PS resevoir.

the cooler is a Setrab... i believe its a 110... pretty big for a PS cooler. i have it mounted to my radiator.



And the original resevoir i bought was some cheapo one from ebay... it had a stamped lid that would leak through the seam.... i tried sealing it up but with no luck so i switched the to the one i know worked which is the Canton one.


id make my own if i did it agian... just some tubing, a small baffle inside and some bungs.

steve shadows
07-02-2008, 04:45 PM
:D


That thing is serious. The front end is so aggressive! That shot of it on the DD is awesome. If that is a similar turbo to the one that was on the blue car at redline summit point, its the loudest turbo I have heard on anything gasoline powered. Sick build and really clean.


That's how all properly tuned sr's sound with a perfectly sized bb turbo

How does that turbo compare to a 3076R

Brian_W
07-02-2008, 06:04 PM
:D




That's how all properly tuned sr's sound with a perfectly sized bb turbo

How does that turbo compare to a 3076R


Steve this is not a BB turbo.

its a Bullseyepower S256 which is a journal bearing type.

It makes boost much like a 30r but with much more top end, and its got alot more steam left in it too!

steve shadows
07-08-2008, 12:40 PM
very cool where can I find specs?

Brian_W
07-09-2008, 12:45 PM
www.bullseyepower.com

ScorpioMk
07-09-2008, 06:52 PM
very cool where can I find specs?

full-race t4 divided version.


http://www.full-race.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=214_1167&products_id=1905&osCsid=6e3b6e778d6424f7ebe24be4160c53ef

The TS256 is basically a Twinscroll T4 GT30R, but with a higher flowing compressor and turbine. This turbo fills the gap between GT30R and GT35R. Recommended for use in quick spooling 380-550+ whp applications. It uses a 7-bladed Extended-Tip compressor wheel w/ 56mm inducer & 75mm exducer rated at 58lb/min. 4" inlet compressor housing. Comes standard with a 1.22 A/R Twinscroll T4 turbine housing (recommended). 1.15, 1.09, 1.00 and .83 A/R Twinscroll T4 housings are also available, 1.22 is recommended. Journal Bearing and Oil Cooled only (watercooling and BB CHRA not applicable). note: this is the turbo that the "HTA30" compressor wheel originates from.

and the turbo im gonna buy,

http://www.full-race.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=214_1167&products_id=1906&osCsid=6e3b6e778d6424f7ebe24be4160c53ef
The TS360 is equivalent to a Twinscroll T4 GT35R, but with a higher flowing compressor and turbine. Recommended for use in quick spooling 420-650+whp applications, this is an excellent turbo for a very fast 4cyl street car. It uses a 7-bladed Extended-Tip compressor wheel w/ 60mm inducer & 83mm exducer rated at ~68lb/min. 4" inlet compressor housing with 3" outlet. Comes with a .91 A/R Twinscroll T4 hsg standard (recommended). 1.00 a/r T4 Twinscroll or .88 A/R T4 Singlescroll are also available. Moves more air than a 61mm GT3582R but with only a 60mm inducer compressor wheel to keep inertia low. Journal Bearing and Oil Cooled only (watercooling and BB CHRA not applicable). note: this is the turbo that the "HTA35" compressor wheel originates from.

Brian_W
07-14-2008, 05:24 PM
full-race t4 divided version.


http://www.full-race.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=214_1167&products_id=1905&osCsid=6e3b6e778d6424f7ebe24be4160c53ef

The TS256 is basically a Twinscroll T4 GT30R, but with a higher flowing compressor and turbine. This turbo fills the gap between GT30R and GT35R. Recommended for use in quick spooling 380-550+ whp applications. It uses a 7-bladed Extended-Tip compressor wheel w/ 56mm inducer & 75mm exducer rated at 58lb/min. 4" inlet compressor housing. Comes standard with a 1.22 A/R Twinscroll T4 turbine housing (recommended). 1.15, 1.09, 1.00 and .83 A/R Twinscroll T4 housings are also available, 1.22 is recommended. Journal Bearing and Oil Cooled only (watercooling and BB CHRA not applicable). note: this is the turbo that the "HTA30" compressor wheel originates from.

and the turbo im gonna buy,

http://www.full-race.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=214_1167&products_id=1906&osCsid=6e3b6e778d6424f7ebe24be4160c53ef
The TS360 is equivalent to a Twinscroll T4 GT35R, but with a higher flowing compressor and turbine. Recommended for use in quick spooling 420-650+whp applications, this is an excellent turbo for a very fast 4cyl street car. It uses a 7-bladed Extended-Tip compressor wheel w/ 60mm inducer & 83mm exducer rated at ~68lb/min. 4" inlet compressor housing with 3" outlet. Comes with a .91 A/R Twinscroll T4 hsg standard (recommended). 1.00 a/r T4 Twinscroll or .88 A/R T4 Singlescroll are also available. Moves more air than a 61mm GT3582R but with only a 60mm inducer compressor wheel to keep inertia low. Journal Bearing and Oil Cooled only (watercooling and BB CHRA not applicable). note: this is the turbo that the "HTA35" compressor wheel originates from.


neither one of those are the turbo i run on my car.

Mine is an S256 from Bullseyerpower its T3 flanged.



and speaking of how the car sounds here is a video clip from USDrift round 2.....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBsr2huw8gY


you cant really hear the turbo in this vid but you can hear its unique exhaust note.

ScorpioMk
07-14-2008, 07:18 PM
neither one of those are the turbo i run on my car.

Mine is an S256 from Bullseyerpower its T3 flanged.





ya i knew that but this is the best little bit of info i could grab easily, bullseyes website is pretty gay. the really nice thing about having a small t4 like that is when/if you wanna upgrade you wont need another manifold.


Marcus

jakerps13
07-15-2008, 12:43 AM
Stay Hungry?

Almost sounds rotaryish. Cool clean build... and driving is impressive!

Sleepy_Steve
07-16-2008, 12:12 AM
I thought the car looked familiar. One of the nicer examples I saw griding up for practice before I went for lunch.

How much did the rumble strips / potholes online effect what you all were making the cars do? It was a much rougher ride that I'd expected when my friend took me out in his evo for some parade laps the next day.

Gee-TR
07-16-2008, 01:41 AM
great build guys, im diggin the color scheme, its very unique and different

Brian_W
07-16-2008, 12:41 PM
thanks for the compliments guys!


as for the rumble strips you just have to know where they are and expect them really.

the track was alot smoother and slicker than last year if you ask me.... no more concrete patches on the insides of the turns.





:cool: it does kinda sound rotaryish too!