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**DONOTDELETE**
02-01-2001, 10:03 AM
How much horsepower would 5psi on a KA make?
With bolt-ons like cams, pulleys, Ignition, intake, and exhaust.
This will soon be my set up and I'd like to know what you guys think.
And this is just my stage 1, wait till the rest of the car will be done(enter evil laugh)

**DONOTDELETE**
02-01-2001, 10:30 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial[/img]quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Sr20det Dreams:
How much horsepower would 5psi on a KA make?
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Let's get some STARTING #'s FIRST. How much
HP is at the Wheels now?
What size TURBO are you going to use?
Intercooled or not?
These ALL mean different results(bigtime) when we just look at 5psi.
If you are speaking(i.e. NSPORT)on stock block, look at 215-225 at rear. Beef the Intercooler,
increase the spark, go to a heavier clutch and add cams.
You could now be looking at 225-240.
OH!!!! remember to keep money in your pocket to help fund the CHIP's annual Dinner.. http://www.freshalloy.com/

**DONOTDELETE**
02-01-2001, 10:49 AM
for 5psi, why bother with cams? blower cams aren't cheap (unless the 4cyl cam world is radically different from the rest of the landscape).

**DONOTDELETE**
02-01-2001, 11:41 AM
Power at the wheels is close to stock, as i only have a intake and full N1 exhaust.
turbo size will be t04b-S3. Spearco intercooled. The cams would be from Don.
Are you estimating at the wheels or fly?
I only want a rough idea of what others think. Im thinking low 200's at the wheels.

**DONOTDELETE**
02-01-2001, 01:23 PM
alright, 215 Hp at the wheels.
And remember, thats MY stage 1.
Anyone know hoe much a Spra TT makes?
There this guy who live across the street...

rextreme
02-01-2001, 01:42 PM
Supra TT's make about 320hp at the flywheel stock. You should be able to beat him no sweat on 7 psi. Supra's are heavy. Better hope you have some damn good tires too. I have some Nitto 450's on mine and I can break traction in first and second gear just by flooring it. Only at about 4.8 psi too.

Tom

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial[/img]quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Sr20det Dreams:
alright, 215 Hp at the wheels.
And remember, thats MY stage 1.
Anyone know hoe much a Spra TT makes?
There this guy who live across the street...<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

**DONOTDELETE**
02-01-2001, 11:27 PM
My confidence level went up a point..haha
I think with 5 psi, Id pretty much run the streets around here. Since almost every corner has a honda or acura. I cant wait.

**DONOTDELETE**
02-02-2001, 12:33 AM
cams bad... dont use higher valve lift/duration cams with a turbo, too much overlap. use stock cams for a turbo application unless specifically designed for it. Dons cams look pretty nice though for NA. Anyhow, that last post was right, about 215hp or so at the wheels at 5psi. If you have an engine in good condition, you should be able to run 6.5-8psi (with a fuel pressure riser) on it and get 240-260hp at the wheels.. that is more than enough for the beautiful car we all call the 240 (well not all of us, but in america http://www.freshalloy.com/

steve

Mav1178
02-02-2001, 02:18 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial[/img]quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by '97 S14 SE Turbo:
Not if the MKIV is BPU+++ They push 450hp easily at the crank with some simple tuning... I figure a good 350 to 400hp will allow me to kill one of these on the streets. On the racetrack, it's a different story, since a stock engine S13 with proper suspension mod can kill one unless it's piloted by a good driver...<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I killed a Supra TT. MR2 Turbo too... http://www.freshalloy.com/

-alex

**DONOTDELETE**
02-02-2001, 06:55 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial[/img]quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Mav1178:
I killed a Supra TT. MR2 Turbo too... http://www.freshalloy.com/

-alex<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

now thats what i wanna hear http://www.freshalloy.com/

-james

**DONOTDELETE**
02-02-2001, 09:38 AM
Be Sane, Keep it around 3-5psi for better engine management. And GET the ECU from JWT for California specs(smog).
P.S. I have NOT lost to any Honda yet, Nor to our own 300z Turbo or etc. etc. etc. Just one small loss to a Firebird with a funny looking W in the name ;-) .
I do not stop light run. We are setup for track and rolling power. And I am NA with NO Internal ENGINE MODS or header.
Just ICEpak, JWT ECU, FULL Injen CAI, 2.5 catback custom exhaust,
electr. fan, 8.5 wires. http://www.freshalloy.com/

Mav1178
02-02-2001, 01:33 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial[/img]quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by '97 S14 SE Turbo:
The S13/S14 are incredibly fast on the track with proper suspension mods (except for long straight aways). No real need to touch the engine. Because the car is lighter than the big boys and we have a good healthy torque curve right where we need it coming out of corners.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Which is what pissed me off real bad at Buttonwillow. The Supra TT and MR2 Turbo I "killed" both had in excess of 75+HP advantage on me, but both had an inferior driver and an inferior suspension setup. Not saying that I'm the best driver, just better than them. They both had 17"/18" multi-piece wheels, totally unsuitable for track use... I basically kept reeling them in in the corners like I had a tow hitch in front of my car, but on the straights, even with me at WOT, they would just haul ass on me and kept me in check (even though I was noticeably faster than them overall). Eventually, the Supra TT spun out (and almost made me t-bone him), while the MR2 held me up for the better part of 5 laps...

Moral of the story: 240's rock on the track! Stock engine too, baby! http://www.freshalloy.com/

-alex

mzf
02-02-2001, 04:35 PM
I was kinda disappointed earlier in the year watching the Speedvision Touring Car races. There was a yellow S14 driven by some guy, and it was almost always at the back of the pack, and didn't seem to even finish most races. I know he's taking on mostly big-team efforts from TC Kline (BMW) and Realtime (Acura) but still... I couldn't help but cheer for him. http://www.freshalloy.com/

Mav1178
02-02-2001, 04:58 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial[/img]quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by mzf:
I was kinda disappointed earlier in the year watching the Speedvision Touring Car races. There was a yellow S14 driven by some guy, and it was almost always at the back of the pack, and didn't seem to even finish most races. I know he's taking on mostly big-team efforts from TC Kline (BMW) and Realtime (Acura) but still... I couldn't help but cheer for him. http://www.freshalloy.com/<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Speedvision, forget it. That Integra is so damn fast it's almost unbelievable. I was at Sears Point for the American LeMans Series, and the Speedvision World Touring Cup Championship race was the same weekend. They have a standing start much like Formula 1, and the Type-R's qualified 1-2. You'd think that the BMW's (starting 3-4 on the grid) would be able to outdrag the Type-R's (similar power/weight ratio, RWD), but the Type-R's just come flying off the line and never trailed. The BMW's had one shot at the lead, and that was because the leading driver spun on turn 2 at Sears Point (uphill, off camber RH turn). No one else came close to challenging...

Given enough power, the 240SX can hold its own, but the rules of these races require a stock block w/o turbo's, something that handicaps the KA engine...

-alex

mzf
02-02-2001, 06:19 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial[/img]quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Mav1178:
Speedvision, forget it. That Integra is so damn fast it's almost unbelievable. I was at Sears Point for the American LeMans Series, and the Speedvision World Touring Cup Championship race was the same weekend. They have a standing start much like Formula 1, and the Type-R's qualified 1-2. You'd think that the BMW's (starting 3-4 on the grid) would be able to outdrag the Type-R's (similar power/weight ratio, RWD), but the Type-R's just come flying off the line and never trailed. The BMW's had one shot at the lead, and that was because the leading driver spun on turn 2 at Sears Point (uphill, off camber RH turn). No one else came close to challenging...

Given enough power, the 240SX can hold its own, but the rules of these races require a stock block w/o turbo's, something that handicaps the KA engine...

-alex<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I was always curious what that 240 was running. I know it's a stock block with custom exhaust and a restrictor on the intake. And some suspension mods of course. I always thought they never gave enough info on what the car actually had goin for it. That has since been solved by this month's SCC though http://www.freshalloy.com/