View Full Version : Engine starting problem (timing related)

02-08-2003, 07:45 PM
In an attempt to remove the timing chain guides (upper ones) I have messed something up so that my car (93) will not start.

Let me start from the beginning. I started out by taking off everything needed to remove the timing chain guides, made an attempt at marking the distributor and proceeded to attempt to remove the guides. Well, to make a long story short the top guide was already removed and it became too cold out to fuss with the upper timing chain cover anymore (because it felt like it was stuck).

Anyways, after reassembling everything back together and starting it up, the car ran poorly, and I was stupidly unaware of the fact that all I needed to do was get a timing light and adjust the idle. Well I took the distributor out and fiddled around with things and now it won't start at all.

I set the main crank pulley back to TDC with the rotor sitting on the #1 cylinder. Still wouldn't start.

I then proceeded to the Nissan dealer to consult with a mechanic who informed me that sometimes when they do timing chain jobs that the spark plugs can become "flooded. He then told me how to remedy the situation by removing the spark plugs then starting it a few times to evaporate the gas.

After trying that and figuring out that I am almost certainly getting sparks (thanks to my friend being shocked and a new set of NGKs) I am still up in arms about what is wrong.

The motor shakes and vibrates but will not start. It seems like, to me, that the motor is not getting the spark when it needs it or that it is not sparking at all but Im not sure. Is there a step that I am missing or could the distributor still not be set right? If I happen to not be getting a spark then what could be wrong that would cause no sparking (I have a new set of plugs and it started fine before this happened.) Any ideas?

02-09-2003, 04:56 AM
Make sure you put the distributor in when #1 cylinder is TDC on the compression stroke. You might have it on the exhaust stroke. Having it wrong would cause the ignition to fire in the wrong cylinder.

02-10-2003, 01:23 AM
here you go man, i HTH cuz i remember almost crying when this happened to me...

1) take off the valve cover, turn the engine till #1 is at TDC and intake lobe points to passanger fender and exhaust lobe points to drivers fender.
2) get a light and point it straight down into the gears of the cam where the dist is about to go in.
3) this part is a little "unconventional" i suppose...do NOT follow the punch marks on the distrib. because notice that if you do, when i look through the valve cover the gear has turned and now you are 1 tooth off and the motor will NOT start.
4) intentionally "misalign" the punch marks so that WHEN the distrib DOES go in and "turn" as its being installed into the hole, the punch marks line up after installation is complete. god i hope i explained that well, cuz thats the most crutial part.
5) unplug the injector harnesses and crank the flodded engine
6) reconnect harnesses and enjoy your running engine. hehe

well thats how i got my engine to run anyway, after hours of tension and not knowing what to do till my neighbor showed me the way as he couldnt take my engine cranking anymore haha. or maybe..this is why my engine pings when you floor it? that would be ironic wouldnt it..

-Abe http://forums.freshalloy.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/tongue.gif

02-10-2003, 03:13 AM
Thanks for the help guys. I basically got it started after some more trial and error with reinserting the distributor so that the rotor was slightly in front of the #1 cylinder.

Now to find someone with a working timing light...