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shoes59
04-03-2003, 03:53 PM
I'm looking to buy a catback system for an S14DET and I want the quietest, most discreet 3" stainless steel system I can find with an emphasis on discreet. Which do you think is the better choice with the above mentioned criteria. The HKS Dragger II or the Blitz Nur Spec Racing.

Dousan_PG
04-03-2003, 03:55 PM
www.rs-r.com (http://www.rs-r.com)

open in USA VERY soon

of those 2, dragger 2 i think is quieter. hard to say, both are pretty loud

shoes59
04-03-2003, 04:17 PM
of those 2, dragger 2 i think is quieter. hard to say, both are pretty loud


Of all the turbo exhaust systems available which do you think is the quietest?

Brad
04-03-2003, 08:30 PM
i think dousan is got the right idea, RS*R has some pretty quiet exhausts. Every company does pretty much, but the two you said arent quiet at all. they also have pretty large canisters, which isnt descreet either.

id say go for anything thats JDM (not JdM tYtE) but like jasma-certified. those should be pretty quiet

**DONOTDELETE**
04-03-2003, 10:01 PM
I thought the Dragger II was JASMA certified.

Tim '95 SE

**DONOTDELETE**
04-03-2003, 10:18 PM
it"s not a 3" but I got the apexi Gt spec (sr20det no cat) and with the silencer bolt in it's VERY quiet I would even compare that to a stock exhaust with the ka
Police aroud here don't even turn their head when I am reving a 4k! http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/grin.gif
The only thing I don't like is the clearance I'll try to take some pics to show you.

Ahhsk
04-03-2003, 10:36 PM
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid55/pb486200610f9579164485dbeb99853e9/fc7a9584.jpg

I wouldnt compare it to stock with the silencer in tho.

Mav1178
04-03-2003, 10:43 PM
Jim, there is NO WAY you can be discreet with a stainless steel cat-back exhaust; a 3" (most likely 80mm/3.14" exhaust if it's Japanese-made) is not at all a small exhaust, and no one would bother making an exhaust that is discreet if it is from Japan.

That being said, I can vouch that the 5Zigen Border III with 70mm piping (2.96" or so) is VERY quiet and is more of a street exhaust than anything else!

(ignore the stupid license plates)
http://www.worldwidechang.com/Pics/Cars/MyCar/Border3-2.jpg
http://www.worldwidechang.com/Pics/Cars/MyCar/Border3-3.jpg
http://www.worldwidechang.com/Pics/Cars/MyCar/Border3-5.jpg
http://www.worldwidechang.com/Pics/Cars/MyCar/Border3-6.jpg

-alex

mattmartindrift
04-03-2003, 11:26 PM
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid58/p82e8370f2a194d28ca4202c43192b8d2/fc65ba0f.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid58/pb082f419de281caec64e976f585938a8/fc65ba09.jpg http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid58/p74a58a63a3008608a725166b96cee3c8/fc65ba06.jpg http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid58/p379b2c502ca2ed54a7a9b0d754389220/fc65ba03.jpg

Trust DD

cellude
04-04-2003, 12:27 AM
Another quiet 3" exhaust would be the Blitz Realize TT. It sounds basically stock, but the only down fall would be the tip is on the larger side.

Kookz
04-04-2003, 02:13 AM
Nice DD, but what is it doing in this thread?

Dousan_PG
04-04-2003, 03:14 AM
quiet? RS*R. very quiet, good power, great quality, 100% pleased. extremely streetable.

getting a new one shortly (exmagII i think)
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid55/pcc5d38cfb0a62245cef0be9ddb248b94/fc7a5b8d.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid55/pc2b46b2664a49c5bcdf769ae776397b0/fc7a5e42.jpg

LOwrestling2001
04-04-2003, 05:18 AM
haha yea i used to have an RSR on my integra...it was sweet...do u know when they are going to be coming out again?

mattmartindrift
04-04-2003, 10:20 AM
DD is a wonderfully musical and quiet exhaust *wink* *wink*...Just thought I'd post, I really like my exhaust and recomend it. And w/ the silencers it's not to bad even on an NA KA

Dousan_PG
04-04-2003, 10:29 AM
rs*r has the car event sunday, so very very very soon. i think within a few months at most! http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/smile.gif

mattmartindrift
04-04-2003, 10:38 AM
aaron...you an official addict, it's 6am and your browsing FA....man...

wylin
04-04-2003, 01:00 PM
not 80mm but dual 60mm i like the Fujitsubo Legalis R twin tip dual piping exhaust

http://store.yahoo.com/jspec/fujitsubos14.html

shoes59
04-04-2003, 01:50 PM
Thanks for all the reply's and pictures. Much appreciated. I think my best bet is the RS-R but don't know if I can wait 2-3 months for them to become available. Can anyone shed some light on the sound quality of the N1 Dual. After looking at more pictures of this system I think I could live with the looks. Also, can anyone verify the pipe diameter of the N1 Dual before the resonator. I was told it's only 70mm but others have said it's 80mm.

Thanks again for all the responses.

shoes59
04-04-2003, 01:58 PM
That being said, I can vouch that the 5Zigen Border III with 70mm piping (2.96" or so) is VERY quiet and is more of a street exhaust than anything else!


What exhaust is pictured on the white S13 with the KADET plates?

Dousan_PG
04-04-2003, 02:01 PM
That being said, I can vouch that the 5Zigen Border III with 70mm piping (2.96" or so) is VERY quiet and is more of a street exhaust than anything else!


What exhaust is pictured on the white S13 with the KADET plates?



your joking right? it says right in what you quoted!!

jspecusa
04-04-2003, 02:45 PM
Alex--you can't just say any jasma certified exhaust,
you should know by now 240 owners demand you put the info on a silver plate and hand it over like this:

5zigen--border3
HKS--drager2, legal muffler
Greddy--MX,PE2
Apexi--R92
Blitz--Realize TT
RSR--Ex Mag
Fujitsubo--any legal series
Most jdm only exhaust are from
small shops which is NOT jasma certified
so only the "big" companies will have jasma.
Cheers,

Sam http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/grin.gif

shoes59
04-04-2003, 05:02 PM
your joking right? it says right in what you quoted!!


Actually I was serious. I went to Heavy Throttles site to look for pricing on the 5Zigen system and the pictures I saw were of a bullet muffler not an oval as shown on the white S13. That's why I asked.

Mav1178
04-04-2003, 05:35 PM
Jim, to avoid confusion, I'll list the most popular 5Zigen exhausts for SR20DET:

Fire 5Zigen (turbo version has smaller resonator), versus stock:
http://www.worldwidechang.com/Pics/Cars/MyCar/ExhaustComparo1.jpg

Border III w/70mm piping:
http://www.worldwidechang.com/Pics/Cars/MyCar/Border3-2.jpg

Border 304 Max w/80mm piping (race only!):
http://www.worldwidechang.com/Pics/Cars/MyCar/Dsc000214.jpg
http://www.worldwidechang.com/Pics/Cars/MyCar/Dsc000215.jpg
http://www.worldwidechang.com/Pics/Cars/MyCar/Dsc000216.jpg

-alex

fooddude
04-04-2003, 05:46 PM
Which exhausts out there are NOT Jasma or in the "Race Only" category besides 304 Max?

Dousan_PG
04-04-2003, 05:55 PM
there's SO MANY
as sam mentioned a lot of small shops are not jasma approved.
look in option2 and all the small shops, could be race use/non-jasma

fooddude
04-04-2003, 06:07 PM
Oh, I meant exhausts that are regularly available here or popular here, like the ones in autoimaging.com, phase2, etc.

mattmartindrift
04-04-2003, 06:17 PM
Jasma is a japanese rating most of the stuff sold here in the states is built here in the states, and there for would not be jasma rated

fooddude
04-04-2003, 06:25 PM
Ya, but a lot of 3" SR20det exhausts that these shops sell are from Japan and not advertised in U.S. big brand(HKS, Greddy) catalogs. Like Greddy DD for example...would this be a "SR"(street regulation) or "RO"(race only)?

mattmartindrift
04-04-2003, 06:32 PM
I know richard aka jdm rice has one on his SR, from what I hear they are VERY loud. So probably a RO but I plan to keep my silencers in untill the track w/ my NA KA

Mav1178
04-04-2003, 09:15 PM
JASMA = Japan Automotive Sport Muffler Association, sort of the equivilant of CARB except that it is a private group that regulates exhaust noise and is deemed legal by VIA (Vehicle Inspection Association) for safety checks every year or two (can't remember the specifics).

That being said, JASMA is useful b/c exhausts rated SR are rated to be under 95db for use on streets in Japan; certainly useful when one is looking for an exhaust that is 95db or lower (as a reference).

I know JASMA is useless for legal purposes in the U.S., but it is useful to figure out which exhausts are loud and which are silent. One prime example is the Border 304 Max I have.... without the silencer the exhaust is SOOOO LOUD that I get a headache just by driving it under WOT for about 30 seconds.

-alex

JimStinksAtDorifto
04-05-2003, 02:52 AM
My Trust full 3" Tr Evo II is RO. http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/smile.gif
and man does it sound tough.

ONRY.

http://www.team140.net/~jimmy/pics/jasma-onry.jpg