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240TurboHMP
11-13-2001, 07:26 PM
Hey greaser, were you at MIR this weekend with a with s-14 turbo?

Mark
HMP Motorsports

**DONOTDELETE**
11-13-2001, 07:28 PM
96 white SE? Had to be him. Car is pretty sick, huh?

240TurboHMP
11-13-2001, 07:34 PM
That car was freaking insane, i saw him beat the inline pro honda. How did he do? I saw him in the staging lanes and his exhaust was awsome, he almost ran me over, then he got on it and the exhaust concussion was huge. What setup is he running? I think all the mid-atlantic 240's need to have a meet.

Mark
HMP Motorsports

**DONOTDELETE**
11-13-2001, 09:31 PM
Yeah that was me.

That run against the inline car was a waste of my time, if i remember right i was sputtering from misfire caused by spark plug wires off the coil packs. ran a 12.75 on that one. The owner of the car was driving and he can never get the car fast. Stan drove the car at the last event in Dinwiddie and busted an 11.30 to be the #1 qualifier and me the #2 with a 12.31

If you heard me rev it up cuz someone asked as i rolled through the staging lanes. I like to hear the two stage limiter as well.

My best so far is 12.2@112 not quite what i wanted but quicker none the less. more tuning to come as far as the chasis goes and rear end gear ratio changes.

Matt i'm running a stock S13 motor with Electromotive TEC II ecu and log manifold with HKS GT3037 turbo @15psi. Quite the efficient setup for a 2900lb car with only 15psi of boost. I've raced talons that are pulling 11.80's at 25psi. I'd be pissed if i was only doing that time with that much power.

Power 4 class was freaking huge this year. 2pages of people. 3 years ago with my Grand am there were !4! participants. I was guarunteed in the quick 8 cuz there werent enough damn turbo cars out there. I made it as #8 qualifier with the 12.2@112 and made it through to the quarterfinals where the 2nd run with misfire didnt fare so well and my opponent gained the lead i had back and passed me through my 3rd gear sputter. Solved the problem and ready for more next year. I think i was the only 240 there as always.

KenFuji
11-13-2001, 09:45 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial[/img]quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Greaser:
i was sputtering from misfire caused by spark plug wires off the coil packs.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

what was wrong with the coilpack?? i may have a similar problem...

**DONOTDELETE**
11-13-2001, 09:52 PM
Where i have the Tec II unit mounted the power steering line hits the wires and makes them come off the coil packs under hard shifting.

KenFuji
11-13-2001, 11:48 PM
woooooh. no... sorry i don't have that problem.
sounds like the ol' case of too much power and not enough zip tie's http://www.freshalloy.com/ heheh just kidding.. it doesn't sound too safe for the motor. hope you find a better location or something

blacksr
11-14-2001, 07:42 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial[/img]quote:</font><HR>Matt i'm running a stock S13 motor with Electromotive TEC II ecu and log manifold with HKS GT3037 turbo @15psi. Quite the efficient setup for a 2900lb car with only 15psi of boost. I've raced talons that are pulling 11.80's at 25psi. I'd be pissed if i was only doing that time with that much power. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
what is to stop you from running more boost?

**DONOTDELETE**
11-14-2001, 07:54 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial[/img]quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by blacksr:

what is to stop you from running more boost?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Good question...Why havn't you turned up the wick? Just curious. I think the Turbo SE-R crowd has shown that the motor can take it in spades. http://www.freshalloy.com/

**DONOTDELETE**
11-14-2001, 09:09 AM
why not more boost?
1. I've run the 550's up to 94% duty cycle at 15psi @7100rpm.
2. I dont want to run more than 15psi
3. I dont have a 3 bar map sensor
4. When ever i plan to run more than 15psi i will build the motor.


Or i could just do cams and bigger injectors and make sure the motor is happy and go to 20 lbs on the stock equipment. Should be good for 400rwhp.

I just got the suspension, i need to learn the car again. Power for now is enough. next season i'm coming with a vengence.....and a tow dolley http://www.freshalloy.com/

**DONOTDELETE**
11-14-2001, 09:28 AM
why not more boost?

cuz i used to have to be able to drive the car home. either 1 1/2 hrs from dinwiddie va or 3 1/2 hrs from budds creek maryland. Not alot of people with 240's drag their cars (and are fast) and know when things break. Each person i've gotten input from said it was caused by launch technique. So if i continue to slip the clutch and be soft on the launch i should be ok.

**DONOTDELETE**
11-14-2001, 09:38 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial[/img]quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Greaser:
why not more boost?
1. I've run the 550's up to 94% duty cycle at 15psi @7100rpm.
2. I dont want to run more than 15psi
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I assume you are not running 4 bar fuel pressure? That would make sense for sure.

Either way your getting great times. Now I'm trying to figure what that hp in a 2600lb S13 will be like. http://www.freshalloy.com/ http://www.freshalloy.com/

**DONOTDELETE**
11-14-2001, 09:59 AM
For some reason, i cant stand the thought of seeing fuel pressure up that high. I want fuel pressure under boost to be around 60-70psi. which is really high and the fuel is way to hot to begin with at that pressure. I'm installing a cooler to see what kind of hp gains i see.

I thought the same thing about a lighter car.....but the 96 is just way too "pimp" to give up. I love it to death. plus i like being the underdog with a/c stereo and all.

**DONOTDELETE**
11-14-2001, 10:58 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial[/img]quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Greaser:
For some reason, i cant stand the thought of seeing fuel pressure up that high. I want fuel pressure under boost to be around 60-70psi. which is really high and the fuel is way to hot to begin with at that pressure. I'm installing a cooler to see what kind of hp gains i see.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I heard that...I was at 84psi under full boost with the 4 bar program. http://www.freshalloy.com/

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial[/img]quote:</font><HR>I thought the same thing about a lighter car.....but the 96 is just way too "pimp" to give up. I love it to death. plus i like being the underdog with a/c stereo and all.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Oh hell yea, same as my NA SE-R running 14.1 with bolt on's and full pimp options spakin up the tin can Honda boys. http://www.freshalloy.com/ I wasn't putting it down in any way, just thinking how much fun the S13 is going to be. http://www.freshalloy.com/

blacksr
11-14-2001, 11:55 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial[/img]quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Greaser:
For some reason, i cant stand the thought of seeing fuel pressure up that high. I want fuel pressure under boost to be around 60-70psi. which is really high and the fuel is way to hot to begin with at that pressure. I'm installing a cooler to see what kind of hp gains i see.

I thought the same thing about a lighter car.....but the 96 is just way too "pimp" to give up. I love it to death. plus i like being the underdog with a/c stereo and all.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

can you post pics of your car? i'd like to see it. at 15 lbs you are merely pissing your turbo off...your motor too. j/k. did you run those times on slicks?

primeral
11-14-2001, 11:58 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial[/img]quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by blacksr:

what is to stop you from running more boost?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Sanity :-)

The octane of gas available and your particular engine management setup will stop a person from running more boost.

**DONOTDELETE**
11-14-2001, 01:04 PM
Haha i'm a picture *****. Need to lighten this one up but any way........ its been lowered since this pic.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid27/p4729dc01161dd9f3c0582baaed3f5e7a/fe21a3e5.jpg.orig.jpg

**DONOTDELETE**
11-14-2001, 01:26 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial[/img]quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Greaser:
Car is scary all over the track on the slicks. I think i'd rather run nitto drags and 12.3's and be stable. but thats why i have a suspension to adjust.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

If you still have radial tires up front and bias ply slicks out back, that's what makes it so "scarey".

Don't try and steer around it, many people do and end up in the wall.

Just let the car do it's walk and you will be okay. It feels freaky but you have to just let it squirm.

If you put bias ply tires up front your all set.

Hope that helps.

blacksr
11-14-2001, 02:48 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial[/img]quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Greaser:


I'm laughing in a kind way when i'm saying this but ......have you ever driven a 320hp car before? this car is freaking nuts and i still am hyped by its power delivery. Any more boost and i'd be crazy. i do this everyday on 93 pump gas through the exhaust. i dropped the exhaust and made 5hp. not worth the noise in my opinion.

15psi is conservative........i like to see peoples faces when i say 15psi and they say "WHAT is that ALL!" yep. haha i got you all in check. The SR is one bad mother. I'd like to do a KA since who-me is having such good luck on a stock block. but i love the sr way too much to swap it out. I'd have to buy another 240........<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

i have but unfortunately it wasn't my 240. and i can't say i ever launched those 320whp cars on slicks at the track. i hope i have that problem on my car someday. well keep up the hard work and good luck on 11s.

p.s. what is the shiny greddy deal in front of the valve cover

**DONOTDELETE**
11-14-2001, 03:01 PM
Greaser, love that "stealth" overflow bottle mount. Slick. if you want, I think I got a smaller size bottle from a 200SX I never used, it's yours. I'd feel better about it, it'd be nasty if that zip-tie broke loose and sent the bottle into the belts.

NIS240SHU
11-14-2001, 03:37 PM
BlackSR, that's a oil catch can in front of the valve cover.

...And I can attest to the power of that damn car...Greaser turned it down to 12psi for the autocross the day after dynoing and I drove once around with him in the passenger seat. Needless to say when I bypassed the slalom and made it a back straight (per Greaser's instructions) I had the biggest smile on my face. http://www.freshalloy.com/ http://www.freshalloy.com/ http://www.freshalloy.com/ http://www.freshalloy.com/ Thanks again for that one Greaser. BTW, did you ever try the water pump thing for your car? Hit me up on e-mail dude. We need to talk a bit. Later!

Junior Cristovao
Turbo City Auto Body, Inc. (http://www.geocities.com/nis240shu)

**DONOTDELETE**
11-14-2001, 04:12 PM
Never did. No one wants to buy the mezier kit and compare it to the rwd water pump. Brian the owner of our shop got a 91 SER and buying the fmax stage 4 turbo kit. I'm hoping to get him to get the water pump kit so i can see. Did you peep my info about the thermostats? the usdm ones had smaller holes than the jdm ones. Still not done comparing though. I'm going to GA for a week so wont hit you up till i get back

240TurboHMP
11-14-2001, 06:51 PM
Hey greaser, my brother(matt) had his turbo 240 there. It was red and said 240sx on the hood and sides. It was running really rich and only put down a 15.0 with a 2.8 60' time. When the rest of the HMP boys get back from AZ we will have to meet up. They have been chilling in AZ with ty, lucky punks. My intercooler is coming this friday and i just a 60-1 turbo on the z site, next year at MIR is gonna be blazin. Let me know if you wanna meet, i hear there is good racing down at V street in DC.

Mark
HMP Motorsports

240TurboHMP
11-14-2001, 08:32 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial[/img]quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Greaser:
Hey MATT!
where was your car at?! bring that turbo beast out there next time. Back me up in power 4 class. I promise to hit an 11 on you http://www.freshalloy.com/<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Hey Greaser, I was their I ran in your class. You probally did not see me I didn't see many people run in my class except at the end for the elimination rounds. I did see your car run! I wish I could get off the line like you LOL. I need to work on launching my car some. This was my first time out with the car so I am just glad to get some base numbers. With a good launch I hink I can run mid to low 14's. I too was battling ignition problems. My car is running really rich and started to foul the plugs. I was getting some igniton back fire too. If I did not have to drive it all the way down I would have just turned up the boost to compensate, but breaking down their would have sucked lol. We will have to set up a meet next year. Hopefully we will have 4 turbo KA's to run with you crazy SR guys J/K!
Matt
HMP Motorsports

matt240sx
11-14-2001, 08:37 PM
the above topic should read matt240sx not HMPturbo240. My brother was messing with my computer
sorry
Matt

**DONOTDELETE**
11-15-2001, 12:34 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial[/img]quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by blacksr:


can you post pics of your car? i'd like to see it. at 15 lbs you are merely pissing your turbo off...your motor too. j/k. did you run those times on slicks?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yeah i know. The motor can handle another 80rwhp and the turbo can go up to 30psi if i change the a/r ratio.

Heres some pics

http://www.freshalloy.com/

And the new intake
http://www.freshalloy.com/

The 12.2@112 was done on slicks 1.760ft was the best i could get. I need to make some changes but will keep them secret till i prove i was right or wrong. Car is scary all over the track on the slicks. I think i'd rather run nitto drags and 12.3's and be stable. but thats why i have a suspension to adjust.

**DONOTDELETE**
11-15-2001, 12:48 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial[/img]quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by blacksr:


can you post pics of your car? i'd like to see it. at 15 lbs you are merely pissing your turbo off...your motor too. j/k. did you run those times on slicks?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'm laughing in a kind way when i'm saying this but ......have you ever driven a 320hp car before? this car is freaking nuts and i still am hyped by its power delivery. Any more boost and i'd be crazy. i do this everyday on 93 pump gas through the exhaust. i dropped the exhaust and made 5hp. not worth the noise in my opinion.

15psi is conservative........i like to see peoples faces when i say 15psi and they say "WHAT is that ALL!" yep. haha i got you all in check. The SR is one bad mother. I'd like to do a KA since who-me is having such good luck on a stock block. but i love the sr way too much to swap it out. I'd have to buy another 240........

**DONOTDELETE**
11-15-2001, 12:52 AM
Hey MATT!
where was your car at?! bring that turbo beast out there next time. Back me up in power 4 class. I promise to hit an 11 on you http://www.freshalloy.com/