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NJFXlover
02-04-2005, 06:20 PM
Ok, so the M45 Sport gets a .90g skidpad, or however you say it. The magazine that I read this from said that it's the best they have seen in a production sedan. Which by the way and I only include this because I saw another thread about the Chrysler 300C SRT-8, but it also got .90g, just read it in my March Road & Track. Anyway, what is the big deal about the skidpad? What does it say about the car?

Deadpool
02-04-2005, 06:52 PM
Ok, so the M45 Sport gets a .90g skidpad, or however you say it. The magazine that I read this from said that it's the best they have seen in a production sedan. Which by the way and I only include this because I saw another thread about the Chrysler 300C SRT-8, but it also got .90g, just read it in my March Road & Track. Anyway, what is the big deal about the skidpad? What does it say about the car?



I wouldn't look too much into those. Different magazines get different numbers anyway. RL got .90G somewhere while Car and Driver got .86g for both RL and M45. So to answer those questions, those numbers only tell half of the story. You can get all the electrical nannys to help you get the maximum grip and adhesion, and prove that the car handles well, but it doesn't say much about the overall feel and balance.

I'll let someone else explain this because I feel like I don't know what I am talking about. http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/rolleyes1.gif

SMac
02-06-2005, 12:51 AM
Skidpad is lateral g's. How hard can I take a turn without sliding out of the desired line (a constant radius circle, in the case of the skidpad test). High skidpad is good.

Magazine test numbers. Well, believe what you want. Small differences in skidpad/0-60/etc shouldn't be a decision maker. What is a small skidpad difference? I would think .05 or less, but I have no technical basis for that.

Q45tech
02-06-2005, 06:57 AM
More important in everyday driving is max lane change speed without over shoots into adjacent lane.......65-69 mph would be great unless you drive 70-80 mph.
Most SUV/pickups are lucky to do 53-55 mph.

They rarely test the skid pad in both directions most cars are assymetrical due to driver weight and side to side balance problems.

crea
02-06-2005, 09:12 AM
just get some fat grippy tires and ur skidpad results will be better

skidpad does not prove how good the car handle. it just prove how good the tires are http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/rolleyes1.gif

jwaters943
02-06-2005, 09:53 AM
just get some fat grippy tires and ur skidpad results will be better

skidpad does not prove how good the car handle. it just prove how good the tires are http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/rolleyes1.gif



What a gross oversimplification. Tires play a role in skidpad performance, but so does suspension tuning. You could throw grippy Ultra High Performance Tires on say, a stock 1st generation Toyota Camry and I guarantee you it wouldn't match the skidpad performance of a modern day Camry w/ OEM tires.

kennycrudup
02-06-2005, 11:38 PM
More important in everyday driving is max lane change speed without over shoots into adjacent lane


Isn't this a driver issue?!

skibum1981
02-08-2005, 07:57 PM
The skidpad most definitely IS important. What people have failed to mention is that these numbers will change on a variety of factors, environment (exact pavement of the road, temperature, even humidity) obviously being one.

But I think the most important aspect of the test that varies the results is probably the radius. I think CD uses a 200 foot while RT uses a 300 foot (or something like that). The results probably change accordingly, or at least I presume so, as the angle at which the front wheels makes probably has an affect on the results.