Possible Concept Camaro Pics

[camber]

http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/733/camconceptfront1da.jpg

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/9070/09camarorear9dy.jpg

[Irie_eyes]

BLEAH

[Nissan_Admirer]

Not bad ... but it looks like a throw back from the 60's. Since when did GM do retro cars? http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/confused.gif

[mayhem]

^^ Are you kidding? HHR? SSR?

Looks like the success of the Mustang has inspired the General to do a retro concept. I like it myself, but no way alot of the design elements will make it to production.

[camber]

I think if GM were to come out with something along these lines it would sell like hot cakes.

It may not be a timeless design but definitely in your face. It is not the current mayonaise Sunfire/Cavalier/Malibu/Impala/Cobalt/Grand Prix/Grand Am/Intrepid that the Big three hav been throwing out there.

Attitude is something that been missing from mass produced American cars for a while(Well excluding the 300C, Magnum etc).

[Nissan_Admirer]

Is it me or do the two foglights have different shapes?

[AZ_G]

Is it me or do the two foglights have different shapes?



Yeah they do look different. Maybe they try different designs on opposite sides of the car to see what looks better. Is this picture from a magazine? If you look at the center line of the car you can see the bumper and winshield don't line up.

[SHIFT_6speeds]

I think for this niche of cars to sell, retro is the way to go. This Camaro concept looks pretty good. Needs a bit of tweeking still, but on the right track. Resembling the 67-69 (1st Gen) I think is the best route to go, and if so, I could be tempted, and I don't even sport a mullet(!). If they can offer it in the same price range the Mustang is, it will be a sales success.

[M_TYPE_X]

Not bad. But do they have the platform they need? Non-Cadillac RWD budget is tight at GM.

[LigouriRd]

Not bad. But do they have the platform they need? Non-Cadillac RWD budget is tight at GM.


What, haven't you heard poeple putting v8s in kappa (solstice/sky) chassis?
That would be kinda sick in a production form eh?
Regardless, once again GM is too late to the table, im done with them.

[Nissan_Admirer]

Is it me or do the two foglights have different shapes?



Yeah they do look different. Maybe they try different designs on opposite sides of the car to see what looks better. Is this picture from a magazine? If you look at the center line of the car you can see the bumper and winshield don't line up.



Maybe this is a photoshop pic and not a real pic?

[camber]

Appaerently the picture has that split because it is basically too compare two differing clay models that GM had been tinkering with for the Detroit autoshow.

[wperdigon]

that car looks really cool looking - I have to say that I'm impressed - seriously - and I'm not a fan of American cars!

[Stinger]

Looks sweet to me. I thought Ford did a good job with the retro stang. I think this camero would sell.

[SukairainKupe]

American car companies' retro attempt seems to be like a bunch of old guys with a bottle of whisky talking about 'the good old days.' It's not bad, but don't they have any new ideas these days? Besides SUVs?

[NISSANSPDR]

I like Dodge's Challenger concept better.

[M_TYPE_X]

I like Dodge's Challenger concept better.




You cannot say that the Challenger concept isn't a Challenger. What's a Camaro or a Firebird? The image is not as strong as the Mustang or some of the Mopar cars. Again, GM doesn't back their models enough and lets them fade and the images become murky.

The Kappa platform is too small - that's what the GM people have been saying.

[SHIFT_6speeds]

Note the horrid rear exhausts.

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/9070/09camarorear9dy.jpg


Aren't those interior air vents from some other GM car?? Goofy looking.

[M_TYPE_X]

Aren't those interior air vents from some other GM car?? Goofy looking.



It's a CONCEPT. Nissan's 1999 Z-concept was built, strangely enough, on a 240SX chassis with a 4-cylinder engine. And did anyone complain? It even looked really weird too!

[dontmindme]

two words.

ug.
ly.

[M_TYPE_X]

two words.

ug.
ly.



I don't think those would count for points if this was scrabble. http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Do you like the Dodge Challenger concept?

[Irie_eyes]

It's freaking ugly.
That kid's old concepts looked better than that.
http://www.popularhotrodding.com/features/0309phr_5camaro/
http://www.popularhotrodding.com/features/0312PHR_Fifth_Reloaded/

If they do the Camaro, IMHO it should be based on the 2nd gen 1970 1/2 split bumper. A modernized version, not retro. I can imagine something like the BNR34 but with the Denali front end.
After that, then go with the 1st gen retro.

[NISSANSPDR]

Do you like the Dodge Challenger concept?



http://autoweek.com/news.cms?newsId=103629

[dontmindme]

I don't think those would count for points if this was scrabble. http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/tongue.gif


as long as i use the triple word scores i'm good to go.


Do you like the Dodge Challenger concept?


a thing of beauty. as long as it's perfromance matches it's appearance, i'd buy one.

[SHIFT_6speeds]

It's freaking ugly.
That kid's old concepts looked better than that.
http://www.popularhotrodding.com/features/0309phr_5camaro/
http://www.popularhotrodding.com/features/0312PHR_Fifth_Reloaded/

If they do the Camaro, IMHO it should be based on the 2nd gen 1970 1/2 split bumper. A modernized version, not retro. I can imagine something like the BNR34 but with the Denali front end.
After that, then go with the 1st gen retro.



Don't like the orange one at all. The nose and front is acceptable, the greenhouse is just too organic and rounded.

The Green one is alot better, but again the sheet metal appaers too rounded again. But the front and rear appearance is damn good. Take the body of the one originally posted here and put the style of the green ones rear and nose (but do clean it up a bit) and I thnk we'd have a winner.

[NISSANSPDR]

Do you like the Dodge Challenger concept?


a thing of beauty. as long as it's perfromance matches it's appearance, i'd buy one.

[/QUOTE]

It's going to have the Hemi engine in it so expect at least 340-425hp. Maybe they'll do like a Challenger R/T w/340hp and then a Challenger SRT8 w/425hp.

[M_TYPE_X]

Do you like the Dodge Challenger concept?



http://autoweek.com/news.cms?newsId=103629



Yes, but do you like it enough to buy one and take it home and love it as your very own?!?!?! http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/shocked.gif http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/ooo.gif

[NISSANSPDR]

Do you like the Dodge Challenger concept?



http://autoweek.com/news.cms?newsId=103629



Yes, but do you like it enough to buy one and take it home and love it as your very own?!?!?! http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/shocked.gif http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/ooo.gif



I am huge fan of the Plymouth Barracuda, Hemicuda, AAR etc. So if they arent going to release a Barracuda, which would have been AWESOME...then this might be my chance to own a 2 seater w/a Hemi new from the factory w/a warranty. And 425 hp would be sweet if they can keep the weight to around 3500, which is comparable to the Mustang GT curb weight.

[M_TYPE_X]

http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/shocked.gif The Barracuda name isn't ever coming back! EVER! You'll just have to swallow your pride and drive a Dodge. http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/ooo.gif

The people across from us restored their 1970 Barracuda (orange) and put so many tweaks on it. It's crazy.

I wonder if there are more Oldsmobile enthusiasts or more Plymouth enthusiasts.

[SHIFT_6speeds]

I wonder if there are more Oldsmobile enthusiasts or more Plymouth enthusiasts.



Evidentally there weren't enough of either. http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[M_TYPE_X]

I wonder if there are more Oldsmobile enthusiasts or more Plymouth enthusiasts.



Evidentally there weren't enough of either. http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/wink.gif





http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/ooo.gif Captain Obvious strikes again.

[CodeRedS]

It looks ...OK.

GM boys think all GM has to do is bring back the Camaro, and the company will be saved. They also claim that GM is going to switch to all body on frame RWD V8 cars. But they live in an alternate reality.

[Sorin]

Do you like the Dodge Challenger concept?



http://autoweek.com/news.cms?newsId=103629



Yes, but do you like it enough to buy one and take it home and love it as your very own?!?!?! http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/shocked.gif http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/ooo.gif



To have and to hold, to love and to cherish, for better or for worse, in sickness and in health, until death do them part?


It looks ...OK.

GM boys think all GM has to do is bring back the Camaro, and the company will be saved. They also claim that GM is going to switch to all body on frame RWD V8 cars. But they live in an alternate reality.



Yeah. I don't know what their whole unshakeable fetish with body on frame and deliberately NON independent rear axles is. The fred flintstone era of automobiles has passed. Let it die for CAMRY'S sake (for you mtx http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/wink.gif).

I swear to god I saw a post somewhere a while back saying that the new GTO was going to be garbage and not a real performance machine because it was going to have 4 wheel independent suspension instead of a solid rear axle. That (and not exactly quoted here, but liberally summed up) because of that, and not being body on frame, it was going to be a complete failure and an evil black mark on GM's performance cars history book.

Damnit boy, where'd ah put mah king o beers and whered dat dere damn hound git off to...

[Irie_eyes]

I don't remember that post but regardless the GTO did fail sorta anyways.

[Sorin]

I don't remember that post but regardless the GTO did fail sorta anyways.



Nah it wasn't here. It was at some other forum somewhere else.

[Not_Vin_Diesel]

Mention of the Camaro was on car connection today. There will be a concept at the auto show in Detroit and it will have a resemblance to the 60's Camaro's. Maybe that pic is more right than we know.

[Irie_eyes]

actually there are a number of hardcore GM guys who are just sick of "next Camaro" as much as the "next Supra".

[M_TYPE_X]

actually there are a number of hardcore GM guys who are just sick of "next Camaro" as much as the "next Supra".



You gotta be REAL hardcore to get excited about the Chevy Monte Carlo 'refresh.'

[Irie_eyes]

my co-worker kept talking about the v8 monte carlo.
I kept telling him it's a FWD.

[CodeRedS]

ON GM site Cheers and Gears, they 'swear' that there will be a RWD Impala, MC, Buick, GTO, G8, and Camaro by 2008 MY. HAHAHAHA!

Also, they claim that all GM has to do is bring back the RWD cars that they say "customers want". Do they ever leave Michigan? They think the whole US is like the trolls who read Car Craft magazine, thinking a RWD Nova with solid axle and a V8/carb motor is the ultimate.

[M_TYPE_X]

ON GM site Cheers and Gears, they 'swear' that there will be a RWD Impala, MC, Buick, GTO, G8, and Camaro by 2008 MY. HAHAHAHA!



I feel great pity for them. It's like us and the Silvia/240SX.



Also, they claim that all GM has to do is bring back the RWD cars that they say "customers want". Do they ever leave Michigan? They think the whole US is like the trolls who read Car Craft magazine, thinking a RWD Nova with solid axle and a V8/carb motor is the ultimate.



I went as far as Cleveland, and turned back. http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[Irie_eyes]

They think the whole US is like the trolls who read Car Craft magazine, thinking a RWD Nova with solid axle and a V8/carb motor is the ultimate.




Actually, the hardcore guys I was referring to are actually from the CarCraft forum.
A lot of them just got sick and tired/get over it.
Why wait for a new Camaro that they can't really afford?
Anyone serious into GM musclecars would rather build it up their own way. CarCrafters do it for cheap.

[CodeRedS]

GM's one of many problems is their loyal customers mostly buy used cars, or only like old carburated ones.