New Video-G35 at Spring Mountain and Willow Spring

[Eagle1]

Here is a link to a new short video of a Jim Wolf TT on the VQ35DE, built by VRT, running against Lamborghini, Ferrari, Ford GT 40, Viper, Corvette ZO6, Porsche turbo Carrera, and some other nice cars. These are from the last couple of weeks. I think you will get a reasonably good impression of the acceleration of the car in the 100mph+ range on the track that is what the car is really adept at, as well as the marvelous handling that coming out of Turn 9 at Big Willow....well if you have been there you know just what it means to have it!

http://www.violentracing.com/videos/Spring_Willow.mov

[Bonez]

I love that video, I was watching it on friday. Thats pretty cool to see a G35 pass up on a Ferrari. And that was insane, seeing that G on the dyno max out at 20+ psi.

[Riffster]

I-M-P-R-E-S-S-I-V-E

I didn't even know Big Willow and I knew what you meant by Turn 9 handling - the big right sweeper before the home straight, correct? Sort of having The Carousel but with no Kink coming up! I was just as impressed with the way the coupe was rock steady and quick on exit through that turn as I was with the ridiculous torque of the car at high speed. In a way, the passing of major Italian and Domestic Power Cars was just the icing on the cake.

Simply .... WOW. http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/ooo.gif

So that's what it's like to be drunk with power, eh?

Still, taking your Monster Coupe through the Kink would indeed be a challenge - where is the Knife's Edge? But the rest of the track - whoa, your coupe would simply scream. I think a sub-2:30 time after some re-acquaintance wouldn't be hard to achieve, and who knows how much further below that you could get? Suffice it to say the AP brakes would get a real baptism at Turn Five!

I would dearly enjoy seeing your coupe come down through the Kettle Bottoms from those stands just North of the Canada Corner! (That is one of the great vantage points in racing in this country - the Midwest's version of being perched just off to the side of the Corkscrew or munching on a breakfast Croissant while watching them scream on to the Mulsanne Straight or while we're dreaming, sitting by the Flugplatz at the Nordschleife!) Except in the stands at the Canada Corner you'd be snacking on a Brat and those epic gourmet treats - Real Wisconsin Cheese Curds!

Let me know when you'll be coming up to RA Eagle1 - I'll come up just to watch (and if I can muster up the courage, to ride along!) http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/wink.gif

- Riff

P.S. Hey VRT - how about letting us hear the engines a bit more and the music a bit less (car freaks like us want the 'six-cylinder music' of a JWT-fueled VQ at full cry!)

[helldorado]

One of these days I'll get my quicktime working so I can actually watch. http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/banghead.gif

[Eagle1]

One of these days I'll get my quicktime working so I can actually watch. http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/banghead.gif


http://www.violentracing.com/Spring_Willow.wmv

Here is the windows version, lads.

[al503]

Oh my!

[Black96]

Wow, great vid! That thing is a beast!

[helldorado]

Sweet, a commercial! http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Anybody know what the build sheet is on that car anyway? I know that's the VRT 800whp shop car, but what else has been done to the car to help it handle all that power? Very impressive straight line acceleration.

Even though I like my Tool and Rage, I'm going to have to agree with Riff. I think the vids would be better musicless, or at least, less predominant music.

[bohd]

That is some real power there.That monster speeds up fast.

[al503]

Ed, I can't speak for anyone else, but I'd like to see MORE. Get out there and take some more vids. http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/72.gif

I'm signing up for another HPDE just because of this vid and the one derek173 put up a couple of days ago (and the fact that it'll cost average my helmet down to ~$350 per use.) http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Eagle1]

Ed, I can't speak for anyone else, but I'd like to see MORE. Get out there and take some more vids. http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/72.gif

I'm signing up for another HPDE just because of this vid and the one derek173 put up a couple of days ago (and the fact that it'll cost average my helmet down to ~$350 per use.) http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/grin.gif



Yes, Master.
Next track day out will be 20-21 at Cal Speedway with the Porsche Club of SoCal and Speedventures, I will try that one. Mike A has my camera mount, so I need to get that back.

The Big Willow video has the car running with the following.
Tein Flex Coil with EDFC.
Custom front upper control A arms.
Stillen sway bars
Enkei NT03+M wheels...9.5 rim front, 10.5 rim rear. 275/35/18 tires front and 315/30/18 rear. Front offset is 27mm and rear is 30mm. 3mm spacer all around.
AP Racing brakes.

The spacers, wheels-tires, and A arms came from my car. He already had the Teins and AP Racing brakes and sways on his car, same as mine.

[Dr_Dave]

Just one word. WOW. Were there any cars that the G wasn't able to pass up?

[Riffster]

Just one word. WOW. Were there any cars that the G wasn't able to pass up?



The other G's and Z's? http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/grin.gif

- Riff

[Riffster]

Just one word. WOW. Were there any cars that the G wasn't able to pass up?



The other G's and Z's? http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/grin.gif

- Riff

[WA2GOOD]

Just one word. WOW. Were there any cars that the G wasn't able to pass up?




Nope.....but that is usually the case with our (VRT) cars



Ed,... you forgot the Front Strut Tower Brace on the list of the gray G's suspension mods. http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/smile.gif Hahaha

[AZ_G]

So if someone can take a G or Z and turbocharge it etc to get such an improvement in performance, could the same be done to any of those other cars (i.e. a corvette, the GT, etc) I don't know to much about modding, but I'm wondering if it's possible to mod the other "super cars" and drastically improve their stock performance.

[Riffster]

So if someone can take a G or Z and turbocharge it etc to get such an improvement in performance, could the same be done to any of those other cars (i.e. a corvette, the GT, etc) I don't know to much about modding, but I'm wondering if it's possible to mod the other "super cars" and drastically improve their stock performance.



Sure, people mod Corvettes to higher horsepower/torque levels and there are companies like Lingenfelter and Callaway that have made a business out of that. But then, is a Corvette - even a Z06 - really a 'supercar?'

But at a certain point, power isn't (as much) the issue anymore, all-around capability is - handling and braking being the most important of the other performance categories. You're just not going to add that much more performance - at least not without spending huge amounts of money and also altering exotics has the danger of making them oddities instead of classics.

Porsches are modified all the time, though not usually to insane horsepower levels as the goal of most people who modify Porsches is to make them even better track vehicles and like Eagle1's modified coupe, they could modify for more power but it wouldn't necessarily be of any advantage on 99% of the tracks out there. Eagle1 backed off on the pursuit of 'numbers for numbers sake' in HP and torque and instead concentrated on getting an all-around solid high-performance car that has more than enough power for the track and is still capable of reliability and streetability.

Maybe pursuing ultra-high numbers (600+ in HP or torque) might make sense for something like a Silver State Classic where pure power might triumph over handling and braking - but at nearly all race courses, even a very fast one like Road America, once you get past a certain point of HP and Torque you're just not able to use it. Again, I'm talking about a car that runs HPDE's and can still be 'streetable', not a 1/4 miler or funny car.

Anyone who would take a Gallardo or a 360 Modena and make it into a funny car should be http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/90.gif

Also, take into account the exotics in that film already have high HP and torque totals - that's one of the reasons why they cost so much. Modifying them further has a sort of 'diminishing returns' feel to it - you're spending more and more to get less and less (in comparison.)

But modifying a true exotic is kind of sacriligeous and redundant really - you don't have to modify a Gallardo or a Murciealago to make it unique - it already is.

Lastly, to *really* get a performance improvement over what some supercars already have stock, you have to get into ultra-exotic and racecar technology involving ground effects and very expensive components and alloys. The people who do that are not generally going to be an HPDE - they'll be in a racing series!

- Riff

[Eagle1]

Well said, Riff. The "supercars" are the ultimates already. They combine astonishing power with graceful design and luxurious appointments. They are more than just great performers, they are rolling works of art. One typically does not "mod" a Rembrandt or Picasso. You take it for what it is, and adore it. If I had one, I would absolutely not modify it.
What we are doing to our G or Z car is a different kettle of fish entirely. What we are doing is achieving performance levels that are akin to what a supercar delivers. And have streetability and utility retained, sometimes to levels that are better than those supercars. BUT.....they don't look as nice, smell as nice and overall utilize far fewer "nice parts" than the exotics. That is why they are so much cheaper. There is no need to build a Gallardo imitator for the same price as a Gallardo....just buy the original! But for a third to a quarter of the price of super exotic.....that works for some people.