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4U4ME
07-23-2006, 09:25 PM
Diesel will find a home in Civic, Accord or CR-V
Staff
Friday, July 21, 2006

When Honda sells its first diesel engine in the United States, it likely will be in the Civic, Accord or CR-V, said John Watts, manager of Honda's U.S. product planning.
Honda plans to introduce a clean-burning, 2.2-liter turbodiesel in the United States within three years.
"That 2.2 could probably crank out about 200 horsepower and about 220 [pounds-feet of] torque at little rpm," Watts said recently. "Vehicles like the Pilot [SUV] and Odyssey [minivan] are too big for a four-cylinder."
Honda sells a 2.2-liter, four-cylinder turbodiesel engine in Europe, but Watts said it does not meet U.S. emission standards. Takeo Fukui, CEO of Honda Motor Co., said in late June that the company will unveil a four-cylinder diesel in the United States that will run as clean as a gasoline engine.
Watts said he thinks diesel will catch on in this country if the engines can go 400 miles on a single tank of fuel.
"I think four cylinders and diesels make a lot of sense with the price of gas," Watts said "But we're looking at everything --- diesels, compressed natural gas, fuel cells, hybrids and E85. We don't believe there's one solution."
Hyundai will expand hydrogen fuel-cell fleet
Hyundai says it wants to sell a hydrogen-powered vehicle at an affordable price by 2015. To reach that goal, Hyundai is working with a German builder of hydrogen production plants to promote fuel-cell vehicles.
Hyundai is testing 32 fuel-cell vehicles in Korea and the United States. The automaker plans to enlarge that fleet, company executives say. Some auto analysts predict fuel-cell vehicles will capture 10 percent of the global market in 2025 and at least 50 percent by 2040.
Linde AG, a German company, developed a mobile refueling station that dispenses either liquid or gaseous hydrogen. Linde expects automakers to start producing fuel cell vehicles by 2012.
Net searches show tilt toward smaller cars
With gasoline at $3 a gallon or higher, what are consumers researching on the Web? Visitors to Kelley Blue Book's Web site were interested in the Honda Civic, Accord or Toyota Camry in the first half of 2006. During the same period, the Chevrolet Tahoe was the only domestic-brand vehicle to crack Kelley's top 10. "A lot of people might guess with fuel prices high, a large SUV like the Chevy Tahoe would not make this list. And yet it did, which is very good news for General Motors," says Jack Nerad, executive editorial director and market analyst for kbb.com.
Toyota delays debut of Corolla redesign
Toyota has delayed the redesigned Corolla for U.S. showrooms a year, until spring 2008.
The current Corolla will be on the market six years, not the typical five.
The Corolla was delayed because the automaker's engineers were stretched too thin by many other product introductions, says Dave Danzer, group vice president of planning and development for Toyota Motor Sales U.S.A. Inc.
In the first six months of 2006, Corolla sales were up 7.4 percent from a year ago, according to the Automotive News Data Center.
Pope's new car An endorsement deal seems unlikely, but Volvo gave Pope Benedict XVI the keys to a new XC90 crossover last month in a private ceremony at the Vatican. The V-8-powered vehicle is dark blue with a light interior.


When will Nissan is going to have diesel in cars and trucks???

NissT
07-24-2006, 06:12 AM
Finally! I have been waiting for a hybrid alternative forever!

M_TYPE_X
07-24-2006, 09:36 AM
Diesel, ethanol, hybrids: all overrated.

NissT
07-24-2006, 10:05 AM
How can it be overrated when Euro Civic gets almost 50mpg while maintaining good performance? Not to mention diesel engines generally last longer and there is no need to replace any batteries/capacitors.

ZYAL8R808
07-24-2006, 11:54 AM
I can't understand how Diesel engines are said to more more efficient and yet the emmissions from these engines are bad.

I thought the government wants cleaner cars on the road. Not just more fuel efficient cars. Gas mileage is important but so is the future of our planet and the future of our children.

Damn it! I sound like an activist now. We can't deny the facts though. We need CLEANER cars.

NissT
07-24-2006, 12:01 PM
Well, didn't they say that these engines will be as clean as petrol engines?

camber
07-24-2006, 12:57 PM
If I wanted to buy a fuel efficient gasoline car right now, It would have to be a MT 4 cylinder Accord!

It has great specs and deserves more attention...

It is interesting that Honda is getting into diesel while investing in turbo technology. I would prefer a diesel over the current crop of hybrids(due to the type of driving I do and still lingering uncertainties with hybrid tech).

M_TYPE_X
07-24-2006, 02:19 PM
Well, didn't they say that these engines will be as clean as petrol engines?

Didn't M TYPE X say that this is a Britspeak-free zone?

Diesel engines aren't as clean as gas engines, and turbo lag and torque steer exist as real physical concepts.

AT is better than anything evar, however!

ZYAL8R808
07-24-2006, 02:25 PM
If diesel engines are "clean" they why don't I see any semis rumbling down the road with Green Peace "Save The Planet" bumper stickers. I'm not saying it's impossible to make a "clean" diesel engine ('cause I'm no engineer). I'm just saying, building more efficient cars is about more than just great gas mileage.

WhereHaveYouBeen
07-24-2006, 05:24 PM
Diesel engines running on bio-diesel are very clean.

Diesel engines running on used cooking oil will clog the earth's arteries, yet however are clean for the air and smells like french fries.

Diesel engines running un current U.S.-Diesel are very dirty and their fumes are toxic and can cause lung cancer because of their high sulfer content.

WhereHaveYouBeen
07-24-2006, 05:25 PM
Didn't M TYPE X say that this is a Britspeak-free zone?

AT is better than anything evar, however!

Yeah, that's right! American Transmission! :patriot:

M_TYPE_X
07-24-2006, 06:08 PM
Yeah, that's right! American Transmission! :patriot:
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WhereHaveYouBeen
07-24-2006, 06:53 PM
My Photoshop sucks, as this is my first attempt. But, I DISAGREE!

http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/421/ok1kdd2cv6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

4U4ME
07-24-2006, 10:47 PM
Diesel, ethanol, hybrids: all overrated.

I say no

The quicker, lighter and upgraded 2006 E350 sedan has replaced the base E320 model in the Mercedes-Benz range. Our staffers and many owners like the change; one reason is its impressive 3.5-liter, four-valve-per-cylinder V6 engine that makes 268 hp and 258 lb-ft of torque. That’s 47 more horses and 26 more lb-ft than the E320’s three-valve 3.2-liter V6.

There’s still an E320, however: the E320 CDI (diesel), blasting 369 lb-ft of torque along with 201 hp. Mercedes says this oil burner’s driving range is about 780 miles on one tank of fuel, and fuel economy is 27 mpg city, 37 highway. When it comes to model choices, however, the E320 CDI comes in sedan only, while Mercedes offers an E350 seven-passenger wagon.


Link from autoweek

http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060724/FREE/60712006/1007