View Full Version : My 2007 Car of the Year Award
Deonwf
01-21-2007, 08:11 PM
The 2007 Car of the Year
In choosing the 2007 Car of the Year only cars that debuted in 2006 as 2007 models were considered. And just like before, cars with less than 250 horsepower, less than six cylinders, and configured with front wheel drive need not apply.
And now, my choice for the 2007 Car of the year is, the 2007 Porsche 911 GT3 (997) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Rcs2bqIIOY)! The GT3 (997) was introduced in May 2006 as a 2007 model, and for over 40 years the Porsche 911 has been the unique kid on the exotic sports car block. With its engine slung behind the rear wheels the 911 still managed to provide exotic car performance, while avoiding the quintessential flat wide exotic sports car look of the Lamborghinis and Ferraris. Today the 911 comes in a number of iterations, from the base $72,400 Carrera (http://www.porsche.com/filestore.aspx/1280x1024.jpg?pool=germany&type=galleryimage&id=9d1471ce-e20e-4e2d-b3b0-006148d443ac&lang=none&filetype=1280x1024)model to the $122,900 twin turbo (http://www.porsche.com/filestore.aspx/1280x1024.jpg?pool=germany&type=galleryimage&id=tu997-experience-wallpapers-10&lang=none&filetype=1280x1024) configuration. The phrase that best describes the GT3 is “pure sports car”. The GT3 is basically the street version of the Porsche GT3 Cup (http://www.porsche.com/filestore.aspx/1280x1024.jpg?pool=germany&type=galleryimage&id=997gt3cup-gallery-wallpaper-01&lang=none&filetype=1280x1024) and RSR (http://www.porsche.com/filestore.aspx/1280x1024.jpg?pool=germany&type=galleryimage&id=997gt3rsr-wallpaper02&lang=none&filetype=1280x1024) championship race cars. There are no turbochargers to boost power; instead, the GT3 produces its 415 horsepower through pure mechanical genius in utilizing its naturally aspirated 3.6 liter flat six cylinder engine. Unlike many other cars, every inch of the bodywork of the GT3 has been designed to achieve pure maximum performance, from the curves and intake vents to the adjustable rear wing. The GT3 also has some of the best sounding pipes this side of Scotland. Everything then comes together to produce an automobile capable of a dash from 0 to 60 mph in scant 4.0 seconds and a top speed of 193 mph wailing all the way to its 8400 rpm redline.
With a price tag of $106,000 the Porsche 911 GT3 (997) delivers the purest and most precise exhilarating driving experience at the best exotic car bang for your buck price. Some may not like the design of the 911s (these people should stick to their Honda Accords, yawn.) but no one can argue with the brilliance in engineering that is exhibited in the Porsche 911s, and with its minimal options list (compared to the other 911s), light weight construction, and its very powerful engine the GT3 brings you much closer to owning not just a pure sports car, but a pure race car. If you are a true automotive purest and enthusiast then go ahead and cash in some of those mutual funds* (https://flagship.vanguard.com/VGApp/hnw/FundsStocksOverview) and order your Porsche 911 GT3 (997) (http://www.porsche.com/usa/models/911/911-gt3/), the choice for my 2007 Car of the Year award.
*You should only liquidate mutual funds to purchase the GT3 if your total portfolio is worth at least $2 million dollars and you have already fully funded all other investment accounts for the year.
SukairainKupe
01-21-2007, 11:22 PM
The 2007 Car of the Year
*You should only liquidate mutual funds to purchase the GT3 if your total portfolio is worth at least $2 million dollars and you have already fully funded all other investment accounts for the year.
Ok, someone drop me a bone here. If I want to buy a Ferrari Modena Spider ($180k) or a F430 Spider ($280k), how much money do I need in my portfolio before I could purchase it? Also, assume I have $30k in the bank right now I and make $200 a day, how long would it take for me to be able to buy the car?
Illegal Fun
01-22-2007, 07:10 AM
ooh ooh, I know this one! It's kinda like one of these questions: "if train A departs from Chicago at 2 PM traveling east at 60MPH, and train B departs from St. Louis at 3PM traveling east at 95MPH, which train will arrive in France first?"
My answer - When you get a better job.... kinda like the rest of us
07G35S
01-22-2007, 11:42 AM
Damn I wish there were more questions like this in math class...
How long till I can afford a 200k sports car to pick up chicks in?
A. 4 years
B. 5 years, but I'm left with no money to pay for gas and food or a place to live, or to keep a lifestyle that any woman you're wooing with a 200k sportscar is going to go along with.
C. Never, probably be easier to steal one, score with the chick and then wipe clean and ditch somewhere.
dangle01
01-22-2007, 01:21 PM
Yes awnser C. please. Ding Ding Ding congradulations. You get to drive a hot car, bang a hot chick and walk away not paying a dime. Sounds good to me.:D
WhereHaveYouBeen
01-22-2007, 04:41 PM
This thread is going places.
dangle01
01-22-2007, 06:48 PM
:00000734: but hey it's all in good fun!! Right Right?
Deonwf
01-22-2007, 08:04 PM
Let's focus on the Porsche people, the Porsche!
UofMG35
01-23-2007, 08:05 AM
I'd rather have a 911 Turbo than the GT3.
Or a Corvette Z06 and an FX45 for the same price...
SukairainKupe
01-23-2007, 11:19 AM
Well, I rather have half a Ferrari than a complete Porsche 911. Those things are everywhere and Porsche all look alike. (Actually I think the Cayman looks better than 997)
Deonwf
01-23-2007, 11:31 AM
I'd rather have a 911 Turbo than the GT3.
Or a Corvette Z06 and an FX45 for the same price...
I understand what you are saying, the Turbo is also brilliant, and with VTG (variable turbine geometry) technology Porsche has virtually eliminated turbo lag. But I personally have always preferred naturally aspirated engines with precision engine internals producing a lot of horsepower without forced compressed air. Porsche has shown that they can get lots of power from turbo engines (as any good car maker should be able to do) and they also have shown that they can produce a great deal of power (415 bhp to be exact) from a 3.6L six cylinder with no turbochargers, now that is something to respect. How many six cylinders out there are producing that much power without forced induction?
Oh, and the Z06 and the FX45 together will cost more than the 911 GT3.
Deonwf
01-23-2007, 11:39 AM
Well, I rather have half a Ferrari than a complete Porsche 911. Those things are everywhere and Porsche all look alike. (Actually I think the Cayman looks better than 997)
Of course you will see a lot more 911s than Ferraris, Porsche prides itself on building the everyday supercar that cost about $40,000 to $100,000 less than the cheapest Ferrari (F430). As I said in my Car of the Year article, some may not likek the looks of the 911, but you must still admire the brilliance in engineering.
UofMG35
01-23-2007, 12:54 PM
Oh, and the Z06 and the FX45 together will cost more than the 911 GT3.
You are correct, but I was thinking of the 911 Turbo...
Porsche 911 Turbo = $122,900
Chevrolet Corvette Z06 = $70,000
Infiniti FX45 = $49,850
Z06 + FX45 = $119,850 < 911 Turbo
[Porsche 911 GT3 MSRP = $106,000]
I can't afford any of this, so it doesn't matter! :(
SukairainKupe
01-23-2007, 02:13 PM
http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/01/22/report-porsche-profits-28000-per-car/
Just for reference....... Porsche = overpriced. (Though they engineer damn nice cars)
WhereHaveYouBeen
01-23-2007, 08:45 PM
Well, I rather have half a Ferrari than a complete Porsche 911.
My friend, you are looking for a Pontiac Fiero.
SukairainKupe
01-24-2007, 01:22 AM
My friend, you are looking for a Pontiac Fiero.
Now you're talking. The Fiero I might be able to afford.
Deonwf
01-24-2007, 01:35 PM
http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/01/22/report-porsche-profits-28000-per-car/
Just for reference....... Porsche = overpriced. (Though they engineer damn nice cars)
There is no such thing as overpriced, the concept you are looking for is supply and demand. The demand for Porsches is very high (seeing as how it is the everyday supercar, many more people can afford the Porsche versus a Ferrari or Lamborghini) thus the selling price is much higher than the cost of production.
07G35S
01-24-2007, 03:34 PM
Wow... you sure screwed that one up. Supply and demand does not apply to the situation you described. Thats just a matter of a better car demanding a better price tag. Inferring that porsches are really expensive because there is a shortage of them is a miscalculation. A better example of supply and demand driving prices up would be PS3's selling for over 1000 dollars because no one can find one. Or beanie babies and tickle me elmos going for hundreds of dollars.
There are plenty of porsches out there = high supply. Demand is exactly where you would expect it to be for their selected demographic, which is people who choose to pay over 100k for a car. Now if you couldnt find one so the one on the lot was marked up another 50k over MSRP that would be supply and demand driving up prices
UofMG35
01-25-2007, 07:16 PM
There is no such thing as overpriced
Wow... thanks for that shiny turd of brilliance.
:bowdown:
Deonwf
01-29-2007, 08:48 PM
Wow... you sure screwed that one up. Supply and demand does not apply to the situation you described. Thats just a matter of a better car demanding a better price tag. Inferring that porsches are really expensive because there is a shortage of them is a miscalculation. A better example of supply and demand driving prices up would be PS3's selling for over 1000 dollars because no one can find one. Or beanie babies and tickle me elmos going for hundreds of dollars.
There are plenty of porsches out there = high supply. Demand is exactly where you would expect it to be for their selected demographic, which is people who choose to pay over 100k for a car. Now if you couldnt find one so the one on the lot was marked up another 50k over MSRP that would be supply and demand driving up prices
Actually my friend, supply and applies to every product or service that a price tag is attached to in the free market. Such things as cars, TVs, college tuition, gasoline (yes even gasoline), tax cuts on capital gains, hotel rooms, cost of health care and many more all follow the supply and demand concept Suppliers (like Porsche) will always try to charge as much as they can for the product they are selling. If Porsche can charge $500,000 for a 911 and still sell the same amount of cars, believe me they would do so. But the powers of supply and demand (which no business can escape) tells Porsche planners that the equilibrium price for let’s say a 911 GT3 is $106,000. The equilibrium point for Porsche happens to net them approximately $28,000 in profit per vehicle. There does not have to be a shortage to evoke the supply and demand concept, as I said before it applies to every product or service that carries a price tag in the free market, with the key phrase being free markets.
WhereHaveYouBeen
01-30-2007, 03:19 PM
There does not have to be a shortage to evoke the supply and demand concept,
You clearly don't understand supply and demand.
Deonwf
01-30-2007, 10:17 PM
You clearly don't understand supply and demand.
At the risk of turning this whole discussion towards economics, what exactly do I not understand about supply and demand? Please be specific.
SukairainKupe
01-31-2007, 12:45 AM
There is no such thing as overpriced, the concept you are looking for is supply and demand.
Overpriced: Priced higher than what it is really worth. Porsche Cayenne = overpriced. Playstation 3 = overpriced. Starbuck Coffee = overpriced. Krispy Kreme = overpriced. No such a thing as overpriced? Then who buys LV bags? Shopping mall = overpriced.
Supply and demand? No no, paying $150k premium for a Ferrari is supply and demand. Getting $5000 off a Ford is supply and demand. Jean-Claude Van Damme DVD's selling for $2.99 is supply and demand. Ebay = supply and demand.
The demand for Porsches is very high (seeing as how it is the everyday supercar,
I disagree, it's not a supercar. Porsche's are damn fine sport cars, but super cars they are not. They lack the impact, the presentation, and the aura of a supercar.
many more people can afford the Porsche versus a Ferrari or Lamborghini
Many more people can afford Honda and Nissan versus a Porsche.
thus the selling price is much higher than the cost of production.
It sort of makes sense to set the MSRP higher than the cost of production; otherwise manufactures might run the risk of well..... not making money.
j/k :D
UofMG35
01-31-2007, 05:40 AM
Actually my friend, supply and applies to every product or service that a price tag is attached to in the free market. Such things as cars, TVs, college tuition, gasoline (yes even gasoline), tax cuts on capital gains, hotel rooms, cost of health care and many more all follow the supply and demand concept Suppliers (like Porsche) will always try to charge as much as they can for the product they are selling. If Porsche can charge $500,000 for a 911 and still sell the same amount of cars, believe me they would do so. But the powers of supply and demand (which no business can escape) tells Porsche planners that the equilibrium price for let’s say a 911 GT3 is $106,000. The equilibrium point for Porsche happens to net them approximately $28,000 in profit per vehicle. There does not have to be a shortage to evoke the supply and demand concept, as I said before it applies to every product or service that carries a price tag in the free market, with the key phrase being free markets.
Well said, and that makes sense to my non-accountant mind.
M_TYPE_X
01-31-2007, 07:56 AM
Good discussion, you guys.
A Porsche is as close as one can get to pure PROFIT.
enfield
02-16-2007, 07:44 PM
Playboy picked the BMW Z4M Coupe as the car of the year!!
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