2009 Maxima!

[arthwerks]

Just spoke with someone that saw the body only of a 2009 Maxima last week. His description (no photos were allowed) was that it was as wide as Dodge Charger and the back end looked like a BMW 745. Speculations are that it will be available with a V-6 or V-8 and All Wheel Drive! He said it was very impressive but the showstopper was the 2009 Murano!

[NissLover]

Sounds exciting! I can't wait to see both.

For some reason I can see Nissan going for the V8 now. They surprised us with the V8 Pathfinder, I mean who knows. Plus basically all of its competition have V8 as options. But the whole deisel thing kind of throws water on that fire. The torque of the deisel could easily match the V8s, who knows!

[Jawad]

I remember TRIED saying something along the lines of the next Maxima being a cross between Charger and the G or something like that.

[rennie4]

sounds good. can't wait until pics of the max and murano!

[maximafanatic101]

sounds good. can't wait until pics of the max and murano!
That goes 4 all of us:caged:

[mkaresh]

Wow, I didn't see this coming. And I thought the V8 sedan was going to get crowded once GM jumps in.

[Madmaster]

In the world of 3.15 dollar gas (and rising), IDK if this will solve Nissan's problems. Despite best in class performance, CVT, redesigned altima/sentra, a new versa, sales are tanking across the entire lineup. Adding thirsty as hell V8s to the Max won't do it IMO... make it rear drive, beat the charger, and maybe it'll cut into those sales. Hopefully won't hurt the G.

[RonSteinbach]

Here is my take on Nissan's problems. Bluntly put, the move from Torrance, CA to Nashville was an exceedingly bad and stupid move. Nissan lost about 1/2 of the Torrance employees on that move, including some pretty talented people. You can't replace talented people by hiring former Ford, GM and Chrysler employees.

As to a V/8 in the new Maxima, I seriously doubt that. Why would anyone buy an Infinite M, then? Four-wheel drive might be an option, but I wouldn't count on it.

Although the new Maxima may be "beefed up" in appearance, I believe the previous report that the new Maxima will be slightly smaller in exterior dimensions (just like the new Altima was slightly smaller).

The big news will be the optional diesel engine in 2010, which will have more torque than any V/8 anyway.

[4U4ME]

Here is my take on Nissan's problems. Bluntly put, the move from Torrance, CA to Nashville was an exceedingly bad and stupid move. Nissan lost about 1/2 of the Torrance employees on that move, including some pretty talented people. You can't replace talented people by hiring former Ford, GM and Chrysler employees.

As to a V/8 in the new Maxima, I seriously doubt that. Why would anyone buy an Infinite M, then? Four-wheel drive might be an option, but I wouldn't count on it.

Although the new Maxima may be "beefed up" in appearance, I believe the previous report that the new Maxima will be slightly smaller in exterior dimensions (just like the new Altima was slightly smaller).

The big news will be the optional diesel engine in 2010, which will have more torque than any V/8 anyway.

sometimes its good to try with new people too
McLaren lost many key people, but look at this year, the best performance from then in recen years

[Jawad]

GM, Ford and Chrysler employees are not the reason they are where they are, its the bosses who make decisions. I don't see how you can put a negative spin on "well Nissan got GM/Ford/Chrysler employees so that is bad"

[Lichtronamo]

Unless its the bosses that all quit in the move from CA to TN (who could blame them!). Anyway, everybody's sales are bad right now, Toyota even had a down month in April.

As to the 2009 Maxima: The Dodge Charger meets BMW 7-Series sounds interesting (certainly doesn't sound smaller). But, I have a hard time believing the V-8 part of the story. CG was pretty out front that the diesel in 2010 would be the flagship engine. And, I agree that a V8 would tread on Infiniti territory. AWD is a believable story if only to manage the torque a diesel would generate.

[Jawad]

Carlos said that it'll be a powerful engine, so what is to say that it won't be a V8 diesel? It could be powerful and economical.

[Lichtronamo]

I suppose that would jive with Renault's continued attempts to be a preimum player in Europe. Given that Renault is doing the engineering on the new diseil, maybe it will be a V-8.

[RHMax]

To generate a "powerful" engine out of disel, it would have to be turbo w/ direct injection. 8 cylinders won't really be necessary. I think a variant of a VQ3x would do just fine.

[SouthStar019]

will the 6sp return?

[Lichtronamo]

will the 6sp return?

PLEASE!!!

Although, paddle shifters similar to the G35 are more likely as Tired suggested.

[Lichtronamo]

Just for reference the 2007 Charger is 74.5 inches wide. The current 2007 Maxima is 71.7 inches wide. An almost 3 inch increase in width is HUGE. However, at least the perception of greater interior width in my 2004 Maxima is one of the reasons I bought it over an Altima or Accord.


EDITED: The BMW 7-Series is 74.9 inches wide, which is wider than the Charger. Maybe they are setting out to make a Nissan 7-Series with a Bangle butt and all.

[AZ_G]

Here is my take on Nissan's problems. Bluntly put, the move from Torrance, CA to Nashville was an exceedingly bad and stupid move.


This is a little OT here, but I don't think it's accurate to say that Nissan's sales decline is due to the move to TN. The current product line up would be the same right now had they moved or not. It will take some time for the effects of the move to show up in regard to products coming out of the pipeline. It's easy to sit back right now and criticize the move, but time will tell how good or bad it was. There are going to be some short term growing pains when you have a major change, but that isn't indicative of long term failures. The cost savings should be substantial. I've often wondered why companies organize themselves in California. It's such an expensive place to live and do business.


As to a V/8 in the new Maxima, I seriously doubt that. Why would anyone buy an Infinite M, then?
The Maxima could still be differentiated from the M. Just look at the Altima and G. Both have 3.5L V6's and both sell very well.

[SouthStar019]

Just for reference the 2007 Charger is 74.5 inches wide. The current 2007 Maxima is 71.7 inches wide. An almost 3 inch increase in width is HUGE. However, at least the perception of greater interior width in my 2004 Maxima is one of the reasons I bought it over an Altima or Accord.


EDITED: The BMW 7-Series is 74.9 inches wide, which is wider than the Charger. Maybe they are setting out to make a Nissan 7-Series with a Bangle butt and all.

i though they said it was going to be close to the CL. or was it just the looks?

[Lichtronamo]

I think the report was referring to it being a four door coupe like a M-B CLS (based on the E-Class and is different than a CL which is a two door S-Class).

http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com//pictures/VEHICLE/2007/Mercedes-Benz/2007.mercedesbenz.clsclass.20094293-E.jpg
http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com//pictures/EI/2007/Nissan/2007.nissan.maxima.20099613-E.jpg

The CLS is 73.7 inches wide or two inches wider than the current Maxima.

[SouthStar019]

nissan wants to make the maxima bigger then it is? but why?

[Lichtronamo]

To make it bigger than the Altima and because the Avalon is bigger than a Camry.

[Zed]

Size matters. Max should be 7series SW sized, more brazen 4dsc attitude and styling to target a complete different market than a M35/45 does. Pricing and spec similarities would be less of a concern. Many 'blue collar Joes' make good money too, not just the 'suits'.

[htown_gator]

I'm hoping that the 2010 TDI model will be worth it enough to sell my 05 TL and buy that instead.

[4U4ME]

in 2010 Acura will have TDI too, it will be really interesting to see how all these Desiels will do. I hope Nissan will transfer all TDi into many other models too
Like to see Frontier and X-Terra with TDI

[InfiNissan Lover]

in 2010 Acura will have TDI too, it will be really interesting to see how all these Desiels will do. I hope Nissan will transfer all TDi into many other models too
Like to see Frontier and X-Terra with TDI

With all due respect 4U4ME, if Honda/Acura ever made a diesel engine for use in the U.S. I surely would not trust it. I say this being how Honda has yet to produce an efficient DOHC V6 let alone a usable V8 in any one of its vehicles to date. They don't even have a flagship car to compete with Nissan's Maxima or Toyota's Avalon.

Now don't get me wrong, there is no one on Earth that could convince me into thinking that Honda does not make the best 4 cylinder engine in the world (their V-TEC is world renowned!), but in an extremely competitive business of selling automobiles you really have to try to match your competition pound for pound. Honda needs to show the world a DOHC V6, a V8 engine and a flagship car to be given more recognition than what it already has before some people like myself could take their future diesel vehicles seriously. I mean, this is what I think anyway. :)

[InfiNissan Lover]

http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com//pictures/EI/2007/Nissan/2007.nissan.maxima.20099613-E.jpg




Jeez! I love this picture of the 2007 Maxima. Nissan did a great job with the refresh of the car's rear end. The rear valance and the bigger quad openings of the exhaust pipes really stand out for me. :)

[Jawad]

With all due respect 4U4ME, if Honda/Acura ever made a diesel engine for use in the U.S. I surely would not trust it. I say this being how Honda has yet to produce an efficient DOHC V6 let alone a usable V8 in any one of its vehicles to date. They don't even have a flagship car to compete with Nissan's Maxima or Toyota's Avalon.:)

Would it work for you if they made a V10? Because that is what they're doing with the next NSX. And guess what, they have one of the best diesels in the business in Europe, something Nissan can't do without Renault's help.

[Lichtronamo]

in 2010 Acura will have TDI too, it will be really interesting to see how all these Desiels will do. I hope Nissan will transfer all TDi into many other models too
Like to see Frontier and X-Terra with TDI

What's wrong with Honda V-6s? They use 3.5L in as wide a variety of products as Nissan uses the VQ and I've never heard complaints about it. Also, the NSX used a V-6 and was regarded as an equal in performance to the comparable Ferrari 348 of the day.

Frankly, I'd be more worried about any desiel engine that Renault had a hand in engineering than one done in-house by Honda.

[jsmithsole]

Jeez! I love this picture of the 2007 Maxima. Nissan did a great job with the refresh of the car's rear end. The rear valance and the bigger quad openings of the exhaust pipes really stand out for me. :)

I agree, that's why I just picked up an 07 bumper, just need to get it painted!!!! (a little refresher for the old '04!!)

[Lichtronamo]

I need a new grille for my '04. The protective covering is beat to h*** and it looks awful and I don't think I can wait to replace the whole car.

[InfiNissan Lover]

Would it work for you if they made a V10? Because that is what they're doing with the next NSX. And guess what, they have one of the best diesels in the business in Europe, something Nissan can't do without Renault's help.

I remember that Honda had a DOHC V6 in the prior NSX and that was the only car IMO where you saw Honda not holding back any kind of technology. A V10 doesn't work for me due to gas prices. I was not degrading their V6 engines but I was mentioning at how they have yet to produce a DOHC variant of their current SOHC V6 found across their sedans.

The one thing I don't understand about Honda is the manner in which they keep evolving an outdated SOHC V6 engine design. It would be nice to see what Honda could do with a DOHC V6 setup after seeing how they can push out 286 HP out of their current V6 now found in the TL Type S.

I understand that Honda has their world renowned V-TEC, and I know that they are able to make a SULEV engine from a SOHC design but I am just curious about their decision to stay with a SOHC V6 design for so long.

As far as their diesel engines are concerned; I guess diesel is a whole different side to the coin for every auto manufacturer. I guess each of the big 3 in Japan have a diesel R & D team and a gasoline R & D team. Afterall, Nissan, Honda and Toyota have vehicles in Japan that I have never seen until they pop up in articles on the Internet.

Honda needs the NSX and they need a flagship car. Unless their idea of a flagship car is their Accord. Which I have to admit is a great buy for someone's dollars right about now.

[Lichtronamo]

Automotive News/Autoweek had this to say about the 2009/2010 Maxima in their recent summary of future Nissan products:

Maxima: The Maxima will walk a fine line when it is redesigned for the 2009 model year. The high-volume Altima has grown into the sporty sedan (http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070824/FREE/70822008/1530/FREE#) segment that the Maxima traditionally served. Additionally, the Maxima has little room to move upmarket without interfering with Nissan's expanding Infiniti brand.

Nissan planners already are alluding to a change in direction for the car. That will include larger exterior dimensions to make it a true competitor of the Toyota Avalon and also an accent on sporty styling and handling. A diesel is planned for the 2010 model year.

I can see the Maxima growing in size and luxury without enroaching on Infiniti if 1) it stays FWD and 2) the price difference between the Maxima and M remains substantial. Infiniti lacks a product like the Lexus ES which ultimately competes in-house against the Avalon.

I've got 82000 miles on my 2004 SE. I don't know if I can wait for the 2009 if not the 2010 diesel. But then, I don't know what else I'd buy.

[omelet1978]

You should just buy an Altima and call it good. I think it's better than the current Maxima right now.

I kind of wonder if the new Maxima is kind of being designed to be second best.....They have to make it nicer than the Altima, but not as nice as the g35. It won't have AWD either; and unfortunately, the new Acura TL which is a main competitor will.

I am ready to see some spy shots of the new maxima though!

[RonSteinbach]

I don't expect to see any spy shots before the December / January time slot.

Anyone who expects to see radical design changes will be disappointed. Just look at the new Altima, the new G sedan, the new G coupe, the Rogue, the new Murano. The new Maxima will still look like a Maxima. It will look more sculpted, more refined, more swoopy. And, the engine will be more refined and slightly more powerful. Yet, the Maxima will be all "new".

So saith my Crystal Ball!

P.S. The more things change, the more they remain the same (or nearly the same).

[RHMax]

I don't expect to see any spy shots before the December / January time slot.

Anyone who expects to see radical design changes will be disappointed. Just look at the new Altima, the new G sedan, the new G coupe, the Rogue, the new Murano. The new Maxima will still look like a Maxima. It will look more sculpted, more refined, more swoopy. And, the engine will be more refined and slightly more powerful. Yet, the Maxima will be all "new".

So saith my Crystal Ball!

P.S. The more things change, the more they remain the same (or nearly the same).

Yup, the platform is good for another cycle with minor updates.

[Lichtronamo]

Yup, the platform is good for another cycle with minor updates.

The 2009 Maxima will ride on a new platform - the same new "D" platform that underpins the 2007 Altima. With the wheelbase (and rear seat room) in the Altima actuall shrinking with the new generation, Nissan has a chance to offer greater separation between the two cars at least in size.

I also expect a refinement of the Maxima's current design language, although the coupe style c-pilar/rear glass may be more extreme as suggested elsewhere in these forums.

[Lichtronamo]

Looks like the 2009 Maxima can't arrive soon enough. YTD sales down almost 29%. At least it still projects out to 72000 units for the full year,which is right on Nissan's target.

[RHMax]

The 2009 Maxima will ride on a new platform - the same new "D" platform that underpins the 2007 Altima...

Yes, you're right. It has been discussed before. What's the smilies for brain fart?

[SHIFT_6speeds]

You should just buy an Altima and call it good. I think it's better than the current Maxima right now.



I don't agree...I would never touch an Altima...they just reek of cheapness to me.

[Lichtronamo]

That new Mazda6, however...

[RonSteinbach]

I saw what I believe to be a 2009 Maxima this morning on the 405 freeway from Garden Grove to Costa Mesa, CA.

It was being driven in the car pool lane with two people inside. The car was completely wrapped in plastic, except for the taillights and part of the headlights. The car bore Michigan license plates.

(I wonder how much Brenda Priddy would pay me for a photo. However, my camera was in my trunk.)

Why do I believe it was a 2009 Maxima? It had the squat and demeanor of a Nissan product. At first I thought it might be a Mercedes judging from the taillights. The car came up from behind me in the car pool lane and passed me. I then sped up and eventually passed the car. The car was somewhat larger than my 2007 Maxima, but it still looked like a Maxima under the plastic girdle. The shape was slightly swoopier than my car, but not as extreme as the 4-door coupe of Mercedes.

The dash was completely changed from my car and was less rounded and more shelf-like. The front end I couldn't tell what happened there, as there was too much black plastic wrap.

The overall shape of the car I saw matched the descriptions and comments previously posted on this forum.
The car definitely looked upscale from my 2007.

[NissLover]

Dude thats when you were supposed to turn on the Autodrive and climb through the trunk pass through to get your camera!

What was it about the rear lights that made you think it was a Benz. Could you see the shape of them?

[RonSteinbach]

The taillights were at least partly exposed. What I saw was about the size of the MBZ lenses. Those lenses usually have horizontal ridges. From a distance, the look was similar. On closer look, there were a number of vertical ridges as well, so a compartment type of look -- for backup lights and turn signals and brake lights.

I am familiar with all the vehicles on the road, and I know what new products are in the offing. And, almost all the new cars are refinements of previous models. The 2008 Accord still looks like an Accord, etc. Based on that, I feel strongly that I saw a 2009 Maxima.

If you look at the squat and bounce of the wheels of a 2004 through 2007 Maxima, it is different than anything else on the road. That is what I observed in the car I saw.

[NissLover]

LOL, I am having a hard time picturing you description, but it sounds believeable. I wouldn't be surprised if some pictures were taken by someone else. I know there have to be people on the prowl daily in CA.

[CoCo_PuFf]

i'm anticipating the new Maxima as well, but i kinda have this gut feeling that it's gonna be a flop.

im not trying to be a downer, but does anyone else feel like Nissan is losing it's mojo. recent products like the Sentra, Rogue, G37/G35, and Altima coupe are lukewarm in terms of design execution (G37/g35 less so).....the G37 is a porker, the Sentra is one of the most unappealing compacts on the market (heck the new Lancer looks far better) and the Rogue looks like its a dud that has been cheapened and disfigured by focus groups.

my point is, looking at these vehicles what are we really expecting from the Maxima. if they continue this trend, it'll be another lukewarm car IMHO. im thinking that Nissan seriously needs to focus on design again especially in the interior department. the EX35 is definately a step in the right direction but i just hope its not one of those rarities fron Nissan.

another gripe i have is the swooped back headlights. I for one think it's getting really old and annoying. infact it's starting to look like Nissan's vehicles are being built around the headlight shape in hopes to acheive a familiar family look....but IMO the only vehilces that it works on are the Z, Murano and the Altima (barely). I wish Nissan would forget about the stupid headlight thing (leave it to Infiniti) and go back to designing cars.....IMO the new Altima Grille is a good enough family mark that they can incorporate into their designs, but every vehicle should have it's own identity.......I give serious kudos to Mazda for their recent designs, IMO they will now posess the most attractive japanese lineup on the market.

Im not trying to interupt the thread, but i just hat to vent a little, because (sales # aside) i feel like Nissan is slowly losing their edge.

[Lichtronamo]

another gripe i have is the swooped back headlights. I for one think it's getting really old and annoying. infact it's starting to look like Nissan's vehicles are being built around the headlight shape in hopes to acheive a familiar family look....but IMO the only vehilces that it works on are the Z, Murano and the Altima (barely). I wish Nissan would forget about the stupid headlight thing (leave it to Infiniti) and go back to designing cars.....

One reason for the swept back headlights is it helps minimize the visual appearance of the front overhang, especially on front wheel drive cars. Other car makers, like the new Accord or Euro Ford Mondeo, use similar designs in part due to the new euro pedestrian crash standards which mandate that large front overhang so that the guy in the crosswalk you just hit isn't slamming into the engine block.

[Tried]

It's possible. Don't know why one would be in Cali though...

[Lichtronamo]

desert testing?

[RHMax]

It's possible. Don't know why one would be in Cali though...

Is the design center still in La Jolla?

[omelet1978]

Ron, did the car you saw look anything like this? It's the new Acura TL which is in testing right now.

http://www.leftlanenews.com/acura-tl-spy.html

[SHIFT_6speeds]

If it had a "shelf-like dash" it may be the next Galant he seen.

[RonSteinbach]

Ron, did the car you saw look anything like this? It's the new Acura TL which is in testing right now.

http://www.leftlanenews.com/acura-tl-spy.html

No.

[RonSteinbach]

If it had a "shelf-like dash" it may be the next Galant he seen.

The car I saw was 2" wider than the 2007 Maxima. So, I doubt it was the Galant.

[gizzsdad]

Ron - You can measure 2" at 70mph, but can't dig out a camera phone? Come on man! LOL!!!

Let's make sure the rest of you SoCal and Arizona people are ready!

Mike

[RonSteinbach]

Ron - You can measure 2" at 70mph, but can't dig out a camera phone? Come on man! LOL!!!

Let's make sure the rest of you SoCal and Arizona people are ready!

Mike

I can't retreive my camera from the trunk while driving.:D And, I don't have a camera phone because they are not allowed into federal buildings.

The car I saw wrapped in black shrink-wrap was noticeable larger than the current Maxima, and I observed a current Maxima being driven to the right of me while I was tailing the shrink-wrap car. The two inches is an estimate from my visual comparisons with both cars in my field of vision. The increased size I observed was similar to that between the 2007 and 2008 Honda Accord. What I observed was not a 2008 Accord, as I have seen photos of that car as well as 1 1/2 truck loads yesterday morning heading north on the 405 freeway in Costa Mesa, CA.

The rear end of the shrink-wrap car had a very similar suspension travel which is unique to the Maxima. (I'm guessing that the rear suspension is not that much different on the 2009 Maxima.)

With the 2009 Murano being unveiled at the L.A. Auto Show in December, I am guessing that the 2009 Maxima will be shown at the NY Auto Show in March. And, I would guess further that on-sale dates will be May 2008 for the 2009 Murano, and July 2008 for the 2009 Maxima.

[idrive]

I don't agree...I would never touch an Altima...they just reek of cheapness to me.

Well thats why they want to move the Maxima more upmarket so they can move the altima a little more upmarket as well...you

[idrive]

I don't agree...I would never touch an Altima...they just reek of cheapness to me.

Well thats why they want to move the Maxima more upmarket so they can move the altima a little more upmarket as well...you will pretty much see a cloth available maxima disappear i suspect

[infinitiguy]

http://bp1.blogger.com/_XEEIzU0UA1M/RugQYDATzDI/AAAAAAAACuM/P-97f9EPVQg/s400/002.jpgfrom thehollywoodextra chinese but it may look like the 2009 maxima

[infinitiguy]

http://bp1.blogger.com/_XEEIzU0UA1M/RugQYDATzDI/AAAAAAAACuM/P-97f9EPVQg/s400/002.jpgthis one too

[infinitiguy]

http://bp2.blogger.com/_XEEIzU0UA1M/RugQdTATzEI/AAAAAAAACuU/DJTojC7Tx80/s400/001.jpgthis one

[Tried]

Mostly yuk! BOOOOO CHINA!!!

[SHIFT_6speeds]

Minus the grille, it is very nissan looking...China can do a better interpretation of Nissan than Nissan can...LMAO!

But don't let your kids near this..it may be covered with lead based paint.

[Serj]

I am wishing for a return to 5.5-gen style rear deck & taillamps, but I think the 350z flavor would seem reasonable.

BTW guys, Ghosn himself declared that they would return the "4DSC" trait to the Maxima, sporting styling similar to the M-B CLS 4-door "coupe". If they go wider, shorter, and lighter than the current 6.5gen, and use the VQ35HR mated to something NOT a CVT, then I will be lining up for it. But currently, I am going insane waiting for spy photos. In all likelyhood, they are going to unveil this car at NAIAS, with it hitting the dealers in June/July next year as an 09. This is what I'm truly hoping for as my 03 is clocking in at 138,000mi and I'm not sure if i should wait, or mod more.

[RonSteinbach]

What I have read, and what I saw (which I believe was the '09 Maxima), I WANT ONE!

[tierrebrown]

I just look at caranddriver and they have an article stating that the 2010 Maxima will receive a 3.0L diesel engine that renault just introduced at the Frankfort Autoshow.

[JerryG]

If they go wider, shorter, and lighter than the current 6.5gen, and use the VQ35HR mated to something NOT a CVT, then I will be lining up for it.

So, how many think Nissan might move away from the CVT on the Maxima so soon after switching to it?

[RHMax]

So, how many think Nissan might move away from the CVT on the Maxima so soon after switching to it?

The diesel model will probably not have CVT because of the abundant torque; but gasoline model will likely stay with CVT.

[joeB]

I hope they move away from the CVT. :)

[ab16]

Is there a problem with the CVT? I have only heard how great it is.

[CoCo_PuFf]

Is there a problem with the CVT? I have only heard how great it is.

don't listen to Joe. I had a previous gen Altima, and i now have an 07 altima. trust me in terms of transmissions the CVT in the new Altima is possibly the best tranny in the midsize catagory. Nissan tested their CVT for 5 years in the Murano with minimal problems. So IMO the upgraded version in the new crop of Nissan vehicles WILL be as safe or safer than any other tranny out there (the Muranos tranny was already reliable). Plus the mileage that i get in my Altima because of the CVT it awesome.

[joeB]

Thanks for the laugh coco. :sign_yeahthat:

I was not refering to whether or not its a good transmission.

[Madmaster]

I mentioned in the car lounge - the new Renault coupe concept has a Nissan/Renault 3.0 diesel with 265 hp and 406 lb ft of torque. Hopefully this will be the engine it receives!

[Lichtronamo]

I mentioned in the car lounge - the new Renault coupe concept has a Nissan/Renault 3.0 diesel with 265 hp and 406 lb ft of torque. Hopefully this will be the engine it receives!

I've read elsewhere suggesting that this is the engine the diesel max will recieve. Hopefully, it has AWD or the front wheels are likely to rip themselves from the car from all torque steer likely to be generated by 406 lb ft of torque.

[NissLover]

406 lb ft of torque........drool.......+ AWD.....now I'm pissin myself!

[Lichtronamo]

LA, Detroit, Chicago or New York? When will the new Maxima debut?

Nissan tends to like debuts at New York, although I think the current Altima showed up at Chicago first. Consideration also has to be given to the new Murano also making its debut at one of the Big 4 shows. It'd be great to have the Murano in LA, with the Maxima at either Detroit or Chicago. I go down to the Chicago show each year and will be very interested in the new Maxima.

The new Maxima is going to be at the top of my list knowing that almost nobody is going to be making a true mid-size sedan with V-6/manual transmission anymore. Right now, you can get a V-6manual combination on the Altima, but only without most of the other top end features. Honda droped the Accord EX-V6/6spd. that came out with the 1996 mid-cycle update and the Acura TL is only availalbe with a manual with the sport package (plus the TL is undersized for my needs) and VW dropped the V-6/manual Passat as well. GM seems to be moving away from offering a G8-GT 6-speed manual, but who really wants to get that kind of gas mileage (not to mention that its a GM product and a Pontiac badge at that!).

[ZYAL8R808]

Mostly yuk! BOOOOO CHINA!!!

Hooray Beer!

[da99]

LA, Detroit, Chicago or New York? When will the new Maxima debut?

Nissan tends to like debuts at New York, although I think the current Altima showed up at Chicago first. Consideration also has to be given to the new Murano also making its debut at one of the Big 4 shows. It'd be great to have the Murano in LA, with the Maxima at either Detroit or Chicago. I go down to the Chicago show each year and will be very interested in the new Maxima.


The Altima (sedan) made it's debut in New York. All sources point to the next Murano debuting in L.A., so a Detroit or Chicago debut for the next Maxima is possible. However, I'm thinking it'll happen in New York instead, Detroit or Chicago will be the debut of the next FX. All 3 shows happen to be within the first 3 months of the year, so the wait won't be too far off no matter which show it debuts at.

[InfiNissan Lover]

After totally going nuts for any word about the 2009 Maxima I came across this
link ~~> http://www.egmcartech.com/2007/05/02/2009-nissan-maxima-to-resemble-the-mercedes-cls/

There is actually a slight possibility that we could get a small glimpse of the 2009 Maxima Concept at the 40th Tokyo Motor Show. I really hope so because if everyone else is tingling like I am then I would say that the 2009 Maxima is as much of a highly anticipated car as the new production GTR is.

There is no word from Nissan about whether or not they will showcase the '09 Maxima concept at the show, but there is always a chance of it happening. :)

Everyone is going ape for that new production GTR which will finally be unveiled at the 40th Tokyo Motor Show. The show will run from October 24th - November 11th. I will have my fingers crossed for that '09 Maxima concept!

Nissan has the '09 Maxima under so many wraps that it isn't funny. They just don't want no one to get a taste of it until it is totally ready. I hope they don't mess it up because I already lost my chance to get a brand new 2008 Maxima. :(

I hope the 2009 Maxima still has/will have:

60/40 folding backseat
Headlight level cornering lights
Motorized folding side mirrors with auto dimming feature
Bi-level xenon headlights (hopefully with auto-leveling & DRLs for the '09)

[Lichtronamo]

Nissan has the '09 Maxima under so many wraps that it isn't funny. They just don't want no one to get a taste of it until it is totally ready. I hope they don't mess it up because I already lost my chance to get a brand new 2008 Maxima. :(

At least its not like GM, which shows the G8 in February '07 and the car isn't going to be on sale for at least a year from that date (or the Camaro which will be almost four years from concept to on-sale).

[Lichtronamo]

This might be the most interesting quote from the article:

"...the car will carry Nissan’s VQ engine that is now used in most Infinitis."

How about the 3.7L from the G coupe?

[InfiNissan Lover]

As much as I would love for the new '09 Maxima to get the 3.7L VVEL VQ engine I would have to say that I highly doubt it. The Infiniti "M" is next in line to receive that engine. However, there is a better chance that the '09 Maxima could receive a detuned version of the VQ35HR, which would not be a bad thing. When I drove the 2007 G35 I absolutely loved the fact that the car had twin intakes and a "true" hanging pipes free dual exhaust setup. However, I didn't like this few second gap the car had when I tried to accelerate and it actually starting to move. It is difficult to describe but it was definitely annoying because I had to press the gas pedal a bit harder and then the car would race off hitting 3,000 RPMs when I didn't want to do that. But this is another story.

My gut feeling tells me that the '09 Maxima will receive a better tuned version of the new Altima's 80% revised VQ engine and the revised engine will probably be pushing out anywhere from 280-300 horsepower.

In the past there has been some speculation over the Internet that Nissan uses different heads, better engine parts and different engine tuning for Infiniti vehicles and a whole different setup for Nissan vehicles. This is based off of some things I read on the Internet years ago. This may or may not be true now.

I would love for the HR and VVEL versions of the VQ to find their way into Nissan vehicles, but I think that those engines are Infiniti only engines for now until Nissan can find a way to make them more efficient. After all, Infiniti vehicles are geared a lot more towards performance, so gas mileage isn't a real big concern for people who buy those cars as opposed to folks who buy family oriented Nissan vehicles.

[InfiNissan Lover]

Hey Ron,

I have been meaning to ask you. How is it like living with the 2007 Maxima's frost interior? Have you tried cleaning it? And if so, was it hard to take any marks off? If you could buy the Maxima again tomorrow, would you choose the frost interior again?

I saw a precision gray Maxima with the frost interior at a dealership and the moment I sat in it I noticed four dirty finger marks on the passenger side handle for closing the door. I would hate to think of my car having marks like that.

I was thinking of maybe getting the car in silver for its exterior color and frost for the interior. My I35 has a silver exterior and a black interior and while it still looks decent inside, sometimes dust shows very easily in it. The Summer seasons have also been brutal but I am assuming that leather is leather, so a frost leather interior would feel just as hot as a black leather interior would. I mean, wouldn't it?

Anyway, I just wanted to ask those quick questions. I saw a silver Maxima with the frost interior while driving on I-287 East one day and the car looked very upscale, that is a color combo I usually see on M-Benz or BMW sedans.

If any one else has any comments on the frost interior option available in some of the Nissan models then by all means, please chime in. :)

[RonSteinbach]

I have no problems with my frost leather. I really like the color and I would buy it again. No problem with dirt or stains. Compared with the black leather in my '04 Maxima, the frost color makes the interior look a lot bigger. As for the sun, the frost leather doesn't get nearly as hot as the black leather. With the black leather, you could almost burn your behind when you sat down. The steering wheel is also a lot cooler with frost.

I have had black leather in two cars now, and I will definitely try to avoid it in future cars. I really don't know why the frost leather is so hard to find in the 07 Maximas. Even in the black Maximas, I believe the frost color looks so much better than black leather.

[RHMax]

I also think frost hides dirt better than tan too.

[InfiNissan Lover]

I have read from a lot of Internet sources that the 2009 Nissan Maxima concept is scheduled to appear with the next generation Z, but I am a bit confused because those same sources say that it will also appear with the production model of the Nissan GTR.

We all know that the Nissan GTR makes its debut at this year's 40th annual Tokyo Motor Show which is only but a couple of weeks away, but there is no word from Nissan as of yet that even hints to a showing of the 2009 Maxima concept at the Tokyo Motor Show.

It appears then that the '09 Maxima concept will make an appearance at the Detroit Motor Show in January of 2008 with it possibly being on sale in late Summer 2008 or Fall 2008 as a 2009 model.

The Detroit Motor Show begins on January 19th and runs to January 27th 2008. Nissan has already registered and is scheduled to appear at the show along with new Chinese automanufacturers.

15 more weeks until the Detroit Motor Show and counting! Sorry, I am just very, very anxious to see the new 7th gen Nissan Maxima. I wouldn't be surprised if it is more of a highly anticipated car than the production GTR.

It will without a doubt receive a push button start with I-key, touch screen navigation with voice activation/back up camera, and a top notch interior that will once again give it the throne as being the "FLAGSHIP" of the Nissan brand. OoOo! I just got myself excited! :D

More info of the Detroit Motor Show can be found on ~~~> http://www.naias.com/

[RHMax]

Would they show the 09 Max at Tokyo autoshow, since the model is only for North America? As much as I like to think the 7th gen Max is more anticipated than the GT-R, I think most enthusiats wouldn't agree.

[07G35S]

http://www.automobilemag.com/new_and_future_cars/2009/0705_2009_nissan_maxima/index.html (http://www.automobilemag.com/new_and_future_cars/2009/0705_2009_nissan_maxima/index.html)

2009 Nissan Maxima

By Stuart Fowle (automobile magazine)

Most folks inside Nissan (http://www.automobilemag.com/new_cars/01/nissan/index.html) won't hesitate to admit that the Maxima has lost its way a bit. It's a car (http://www.automobilemag.com/new_and_future_cars/2009/0705_2009_nissan_maxima/index.html#) that once sat proud as a sporty alternative to the Camry or Accord, and for a while, Nissan even called it the Four-Door Sports Car (a "4DSC" sticker adorned one corner of the rear window on models in the early nineties.) Now, the car sits awkwardly on top of the Altima that, in some ways, is actually a better car.

That will all change in 2009 when Nissan will dig into its past and make the Maxima a four-door sports car once again. We haven't seen the future Maxima, but has been described to us as "unlike anything we've ever done" by more than one Nissan insider. Expect a concept version of the car to debut next winter at a major auto (http://www.automobilemag.com/new_and_future_cars/2009/0705_2009_nissan_maxima/index.html#) show as part of Nissan's fiftieth anniversary celebration (which will also include the production GT-R and a new Z-car.) It should be an aggressive, Mercedes-Benz (http://www.automobilemag.com/new_cars/01/mercedes_benz/index.html) CLS-style car sharing some cues with Nissan's other halo vehicles. The new Maxima will use the same VQ engine family found throughout the Nissan/Infiniti (http://www.automobilemag.com/new_cars/01/infiniti/index.html) range, but to prevent the car from cannibalizing G35 sales, it will most likely remain front-wheel drive. A diesel model is also planned, and it could end up being the high-performance range-topper. We're excited.

[RonSteinbach]

The 2009 Maxima that I saw on the freeway several weeks ago wrapped in black plastic looked great!:D I still believe it was a Maxima! It is going to be quite a car and up market from the current Maxima.

[Lichtronamo]

"next winter at a major auto show"

Could be LA, Detroit, Chicago or NY. I believe the Murano is set to debut at LA, which means the Maxima won't be there so as to spread the news. Nissan really likes the NY show, but woudn't that be "spring"?

I'm pretty much decided that my next car will either be another Maxima or a Pontiac G8 GT with the manual transmission. There would likely be some luxury amenity compromises with the G8 (nav, bluetooth, sat radio, homlink, auto dimming mirror, dual express down front windows, adjustable rear headrests, more?) plus the uneasness about buying a GM product ( even though I watched the Ken Burn's "War" film and feel the strange need to buy American). Plus, gas mileage with the manual will probably REALLY suck because of no "active fuel management".

NEED MORE INFO RE: THE MAXIMA!!!

[RHMax]

"next winter at a major auto show"

Could be LA, Detroit, Chicago or NY. I believe the Murano is set to debut at LA, which means the Maxima won't be there so as to spread the news. Nissan really likes the NY show, but woudn't that be "spring"?

____
....plus the uneasness about buying a GM product...

Probably Detroit show.

I was a little uneasy when I bought my '05 Suburban, I needed a big truck/SUV and the Armada wasn't big enough or my need. It has been a pleasant surprise, only 1 visit (2 problems) to the dealer in 2 years. Other than cheap interior (LT with leather), it isn't bad. The G8 should be OK, hopefully GM learned from the GTO fiasco.

[Lord_Vader]

Dear Nissan, please include an AWD option (like the G35, performance oriented) if RWD is not standard.

Thanks,
Vader :D

[Lichtronamo]

Dear Nissan, please include an AWD option (like the G35, performance oriented) if RWD is not standard.

Thanks,
Vader :D

No way is the Maxima RWD as the car is to be based on the new D-platform used for the Altima, the new Murano (and new Quest?). AWD would be feasible using the Murano's system and is almost a MUST if they put anymore power into the car to move it above the Altima in performance.

The other issue caused by increasing the engine performance and adding AWD is price. I can see the Maxima and G35 overlapping some in price because of their size differences, but the Maxima needs to stay well below the M35 to avoid any internal competition.

[da99]

Dear Nissan, please include an AWD option (like the G35, performance oriented) if RWD is not standard.

Thanks,
Vader :D

Dear Lord Vader,

While we would love to make the Maxima RWD or AWD, doing so would cannibalize sales from our own G35. Thus we are going to be keeping the Maxima as FWD. We hope this decision is understood by you and the millions of other Maxima fans out there. Please don't force choke us or throw us down an open shaft.

Sincerely,
The Emperor err Nissan

http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2005/05/05/star_wideweb__430x280.jpg

[Lord_Vader]

Dear Lord Vader,

While we would love to make the Maxima RWD or AWD, doing so would cannibalize sales from our own G35. Thus we are going to be keeping the Maxima as FWD. We hope this decision is understood by you and the millions of other Maxima fans out there. Please don't force choke us or throw us down an open shaft.

Sincerely,
The Emperor err Nissan

http://www.utdallas.edu/~ctf031000/VIG/choke.jpg

:D

I only ask because the Max has too much power for FWD only. I test drove an '06 and the car was all over the place. It would be nice if they could spread it over the rear wheels as well.

[da99]

I only ask because the Max has too much power for FWD only. I test drove an '06 and the car was all over the place. It would be nice if they could spread it over the rear wheels as well.

Ahh ha, you speak of the dreaded "Torque Steer"... that problem should be resolved when the car is moved to the "D" platform shared with the Altima. By all accounts the new platform has almost completely eliminated torque steer from the Altima and should work wonders for the Maxima too. Provided the next Maxima isn't above 300hp/300lb ft torque (and I doubt it will be for the gas engine anyhow, maybe 285-290hp/260-280lb ft at the most is my guess) I don't foresee any torque steer issues with it.

[2K2MaximaSErious]

I would think that if Nissan has committed to offering a performance Diesel option for the Maxima, it would indicate that an optional AWD drivetrain will be necessary to deal with the inherent torque with diesel engines. I can't imagine 350+ lb.ft. of torque being pushed through the front wheels with a CVT transmission. My guess is AWD optional with 6-speed auto. CVT would be standard with the gas engine.

[Lord_Vader]

If you only knew the power of the diesel.. :D

[infinitiguy]

IMO it will have the same system in the murano, fwd biased all wheel drive. It's a must subaru, ford and others will offer all wheel drive diesels. Nissan must offer it or lose sales in the snow belt.
IT WILL HAPPEN!!!!!!

[InfiNissan Lover]

Must......try......to.......stay.......sane! ARGHHHHHHH!!! :caged:

It is quite obvious that I need my Maxima fix for the month. :D

The 2007 Max really looks sharp on the road. I really, really hope that Nissan gives the 7th gen Maxima a clean dual exhaust setup. Something clean looking like the 2007 G35 but with quasi-exhaust tips. :)

[Jawad]

Nissan Intima concept at Tokyo auto show. Could be a sign, though I hope it isn't, as its fugly.

http://press.nissan-global.com/TOKYO_MOTOR_SHOW_2007/COMMON/IMAGES/SHOW_CAR/INTIMA/LOW/intima_01.jpg
http://press.nissan-global.com/TOKYO_MOTOR_SHOW_2007/COMMON/IMAGES/SHOW_CAR/INTIMA/LOW/intima_05.jpg
http://press.nissan-global.com/TOKYO_MOTOR_SHOW_2007/COMMON/IMAGES/SHOW_CAR/INTIMA/LOW/intima_08.jpg


Though its different, as suicide doors, has a sleek roofline like the CLS, but its still ugly.

[Jawad]

http://press.nissan-global.com/TOKYO_MOTOR_SHOW_2007/COMMON/IMAGES/SHOW_CAR/INTIMA/LOW/intima_14.jpg
http://press.nissan-global.com/TOKYO_MOTOR_SHOW_2007/COMMON/IMAGES/SHOW_CAR/INTIMA/LOW/intima_10.jpg

[Lichtronamo]

uh oh... I see a lot of elements from the current Maxima/Teana in this concept. OMG those overhangs!!!

[JayG35]

I think that's it in concept form. I'm going to go against the grain and say it's beautiful with one big exception-- those overhangs are ghastly! I thought, like the Altima, that the move to the D platform would shave inches from those ungainly things. Is this car even on teh D platform?

The interior is derived from the Fuga concept which makes things interesting. Are we going to see an interior similar to the Infiniti M in the next Maxima? I sure hope so!

[Jawad]

Now that I think about it, it looks like what the next Teana would look like. Interior looks similar. Maybe the next Teana/Maxima will be the same car? We've seen Teana test mules in the states before, so you never know.

http://www.autocentre.ua/ac/06/23/images/07/SIA_teana2.jpg
http://www.globalcar.com/techimage/5025_1.jpg

[Lichtronamo]

http://www.nissannews.com/multimedia/nissan2007/800px/07_maxima_03.jpg
http://www.nissan.com.au/maxima/images/g10l.jpg
http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com//pictures/VEHICLE/2007/Mercedes-Benz/2007.mercedesbenz.clsclass.20094293-E.jpg
http://press.nissan-global.com/TOKYO_MOTOR_SHOW_2007/COMMON/IMAGES/SHOW_CAR/INTIMA/LOW/intima_05.jpg
http://www.toyota.com/images/vehicles/2008/avalon/gallery/exterior/large/photo_7.jpg


Its definately more Teana than Maxima (both share the same platform). The concept looks like a Teana and a CLS got in a dark room together and did the nasty (and I mean NASTY!!!) We can only hope that the next NA Maxima is to this concept what the SE Asia Teana/Maxima is to the current car! The concept looks like an Avalon.

I'm feeling less uncertain about that G8...

[da99]

Well after looking at all of the pictures of the Intima here:

http://press.nissan-global.com/TOKYO_MOTOR_SHOW_2007/EN/SHOW_CAR/intima.html

I think I like it... and I do believe this may very well be the "concept" Maxima we've all been hearing about as appearing at a "winter" auto show. Only here's the catch, I'm thinking perhaps the automotive press got the names a bit mixed up, Intima, Maxima, very close. Thus they believed this concept was the Maxima and not a totally unrelated car. Also, if this truly was a "concept" of the next Maxima why not just call it that? Of course it's very possible that this is a concept of the Teana replacement which will now be called Intima, thus this car could be related to our next Maxima after all. Hmmm, I'm sure we'll be reading about this car over the next few weeks in the automotive press and we may get our answer then.

Hey Ron, did the car you see look anything like this?

[InfiNissan Lover]

I showed these "Intima" concept pictures to a lot of co-workers here at my job and they were all like, "That's the upcoming new Maxima? Dayyyyyuuuuum!!!! Glad I haven't bought a 2007 yet" LoL!

I like this concept very much too. I especially love the tail light setup as the amber turning signals have returned. However, that long windshield makes the car look like a balding man from the front and I don't think that would be very safe in frontal crash tests either. I love the rims and the wheel design. I hope the car remains a very functional car with its trademark cornering lamps, in my opinion I think that every Maxima should have cornering lamps. Every time I thought about a Maxima that was one of the first few things I always remember about the car that I really loved.

Let's hope that the back seat is a 60/40 folding split bench. I guess the quad exhaust setup is gone. I think the GTR is the only one who will be getting that kind of a design scheme. I hope the tail lights are all L.E.D. including the amber blinker. Let's hope the car also has auto leveling headlights with DRLs too.

The front of the car does look very Toyota Avalon-ish and that is something Nissan would really have to change to keep the design looking radical and not boring.

Overall I really like this Intima concept. It is something fresh and very exciting. I am glad I didn't buy a 2007 - 2008 Maxima now. :D

Now, someone photochop that Intima name and put Maxima there so that I can truly feel it. LoL! :p

[infinitiguy]

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could this be the drivetrain for the maxima
http://press.nissan-global.com/TOKYO_MOTOR_SHOW_2007/EN/TECHNOLOGY/photos.html

[Lichtronamo]

The word intimate can be used as a verb to "suggest", i.e., the concept intimates the next Maxima.

The concept isn't bad except for those overhangs. The front may be in response to pedestrian crash standards (like the Honda Accord or Ford Mondeo). The good news is that the car is still likely very practical. The CLS roofline is achieved with a high rear deck (with a hint of Bangle Butt) meaning headroom isn't compromised.

I could see Nissan merging the Teana/Maxima into a single vehicle. It seems hard to justify a stand alone exterior/interior design for the Maxima in the US given the limited volumes the car now has.

GM is selling the Astra in Europe with a skyview roof similar to that on the concept. I would think you'd feel pretty strange driving around in something like that - too much open view. My center mirror fell off once and I felt strangely exposed. A convertable still gives you the windshield header for a sense of enclosure.


http://www.autoblog.com/media/2006/06/astrapanoramic2.jpg
http://www.autointell.com/Events/paris-2004/opel-paris-04/GTC_panoramicroof_2-800.jpg

[da99]

Someone else mentioned this in the other thread and I am wondering the same thing now myself... could this really be the next Q instead? Just by looking at it, it does appear to be a rather large vehicle. JayG even mentioned that the interior is very M like and after looking at the interior shots and comparing them to the M/Fuga I believe he's right. Anyone have any idea how big this car is? The only reason we're all thinking it might be the Maxima is because of the CLS like roof-line which the next Maxima has been rumored to look like, but now I'm thinking this car might be too big to be a Maxima. Also another reason I think it might be the next Q, take a look at the top down view of the front end and you'll notice what appears to be the distinctive "catamaran" bulges that all Infiniti's seem to have.
http://press.nissan-global.com/TOKYO_MOTOR_SHOW_2007/COMMON/IMAGES/SHOW_CAR/INTIMA/LOW/intima_04.jpg
http://press.nissan-global.com/TOKYO_MOTOR_SHOW_2007/COMMON/IMAGES/SHOW_CAR/INTIMA/LOW/intima_10.jpg

[Lichtronamo]

That front overhang is FWD all the way. The car has SE Asia Teana/Maxima design cues all over it. The only quesiton is if the US Maxima will be the same car.

http://www.nissan.com.au/maxima/images/g03l.jpg



http://www.autonissan.ru/pix/models/teana/1.jpg

One thing that's pretty noticeable is that the SE Asia Teana/Maxima is a lot more luxury than the US model.

[SHIFT_6speeds]

well it's not like the g8 is a new car...it's just a rebadge of an existing car. The camaro...well gm needed the hype.

the next maxima...this will be the defining car that will help my decision on whether i will remain a nissan enthusiast or not.

[Lichtronamo]

the next maxima...this will be the defining car that will help my decision on whether i will remain a nissan enthusiast or not.

I'm with you there... I kind of like the rear 3/4 view and will acknowledge that even the current Maxima has some overhang issues when viewed from the side (as well as a fat butt, which the concept kind of addresses.)

We need Ron S and/or Tried to weigh in on how much of this concept could be the next Maxima.

[da99]

We need Ron S and/or Tried to weigh in on how much of this concept could be the next Maxima.


Agreed, where are those two when you need them? lol Come on you two, come out from hiding, it's ok.... :hide:

[Lichtronamo]

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could this be the drivetrain for the maxima
http://press.nissan-global.com/TOKYO_MOTOR_SHOW_2007/EN/TECHNOLOGY/photos.html


This is a small 2.0L engine making less than 200hp. I would think the Maxima's diesel's size has to be bigger like the M-B 3.2 BlueTec.

[NissLover]

LOL, Ron always posts, but now he is no where to be found. And I am waiting on Trieds one word hint. If I remember correctly, he was on the devolopement team for the Maximas doors, so he knows what the Maxima is going to look like.

[Lichtronamo]

Closed circit to da99: shouldn't your signature line read:

I want to have a car that attracts a woman with a shave down below.

[222Max]

http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/8361/intima01ev9.jpg
With a few minor tweaks it's easy to see how this could be the next Maxima.

[da99]

Closed circit to da99: shouldn't your signature line read:

I want to have a car that attracts a woman with a shave down below.

Actually no, it's correct as is without the s. Anyone who has seen the Borat movie enough times will know this to be true. If you listen to the line when he speaks it, he clearly says "attract" not "attracts". Also if you have the DVD and turn on the captions, the caption reads "attract". :D

Anyhow back on topic.... AutoBlog has an article up about this car and some of the comments from people there seem to think as I do, that this vehicle could be the next Q.

[Lichtronamo]

Oh, I get it - doh!

[RonSteinbach]

LOL, Ron always posts, but now he is no where to be found. And I am waiting on Trieds one word hint. If I remember correctly, he was on the devolopement team for the Maximas doors, so he knows what the Maxima is going to look like.

The car that I saw on the freeway has some of the same styling cues of what has been posted here. But, it was still different.

The dash looked very similar to the cut (shelf) design I see here. But the taillights were different, more Mercedes like. The rear deck was a little higher.

Remember, I was looking at the equivalent of a girl in a girdle. The black shrink wrap fit tighter than what you ordinarily see on test cars, where the material looks like a canvas material.

My conclusion: the car that I saw WAS in my opinion a 2009 Maxima. However, it looks better than any of the photos posted here. In terms of design, it was more of a macho and mature look.

[222Max]

This video will give a sense of the car's size and whether this is too big or not to be a Maxima.


http://www.tuningnews.net/videos/preview.php?make=nissan&model=nissan_intima

[Lichtronamo]

This video will give a sense of the car's size and whether this is too big or not to be a Maxima.


http://www.tuningnews.net/videos/preview.php?make=nissan&model=nissan_intima


Great find - that car is spot on the right size for the next Teana/Maxima. THe proportions look better too in the video, except maybe for the shovel front end. Production bumbers would likely fix that.

[NissLover]

The front end is HUGE! LOL, thats the only part of the car I am not really feeling, but it has mostly to do with the bumper jutting out at the bottom rather than curving in.

[222Max]

Well, assuming that this is representative of the 09 max, and the operative word is assuming, I imagine that the nose and tail will be cleaned up a bit and made more to fit into the styling vocabulary of current Nissan sedans.

We're still making quite a leap that this has anything to do with the upcoming Maxima.

[RonSteinbach]

The car with the suicide doors is a styling exercise! That's my opinion. It is much more feminine than the car I saw.

[da99]

We're still making quite a leap that this has anything to do with the upcoming Maxima.

Well the reason we all jumped on this so quickly as possibly being the next Maxima is two fold....

First: All info in regards to the next Maxima pointed to a CLS like shape. As we can see this Intima concept has exactly that, a CLS type shape.

and

Second: There were several conflicting stories in the automotive press regarding Nissan showing a concept version of the next Maxima at an upcoming auto show. Lo and behold here we have a concept sedan being shown at a major auto show.

So most of us put this info together and jumped on this concept the minute we saw it and exclaimed... there she isssssss Miss Maxima 2009!

Regardless as to whether or not this concept turns out to be the next Maxima or not, it is still important for us as Nissan fans. I believe this concept shows off some of the future styling direction Nissan may be taking with its cars.

BTW... nice photoshop job you did earlier.

[RHMax]

A lot of the styling cues from this car will likely make it to the 09 Maxima; less the overhang, suicide doors, interior, and hopefully the seafoam green.

[4U4ME]

http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/8361/intima01ev9.jpg
With a few minor tweaks it's easy to see how this could be the next Maxima.
excellent, you should work for Nissan:D

[Tried]

That's yucky! Maybe it's the next Fuga, Q, or some other new vehicle???

[NissLover]

Tried thats sooooooo wrong! You know you know what car it is! LOL.

[JayG35]

The overhang's not as bad as I thought looking at the comparison pics. It might actually be shorter than the current Max, especially in the rear.

I really dig this design. The wheels and lights are cool beyond words, as is the interior.

It can't be the new Q because, as others have said, Infinitis are all FM-based these days with short front overhangs and a greater distance between the front door seam and front wheel than the Intima.

I love how the word "Intima" can be read as a "hint" of the next Maxima. Awesome, wouldn't put it past Nissan!

[RonSteinbach]

You guys don't want to believe me. The vehicle that I saw on the freeway looked far better than this concept! I agree with Tried on his comments.

I'm off this board for 10 days. Going on a road trip to where cell phones don't work, and there is no internet!

[NissLover]

I believe you! have fun on the trip.

[RHMax]

That's yucky! Maybe it's the next Fuga, Q, or some other new vehicle???

I can see the new Q with LED headlights, but I hope that front bumper doesn't make production on any cars. So can you "share" more info?

[Doriftomodachi]

Nissan Intima concept at Tokyo auto show. Could be a sign, though I hope it isn't, as its fugly.

http://press.nissan-global.com/TOKYO_MOTOR_SHOW_2007/COMMON/IMAGES/SHOW_CAR/INTIMA/LOW/intima_01.jpg
http://press.nissan-global.com/TOKYO_MOTOR_SHOW_2007/COMMON/IMAGES/SHOW_CAR/INTIMA/LOW/intima_05.jpg
http://press.nissan-global.com/TOKYO_MOTOR_SHOW_2007/COMMON/IMAGES/SHOW_CAR/INTIMA/LOW/intima_08.jpg


Though its different, as suicide doors, has a sleek roofline like the CLS, but its still ugly.

Holy extreme overhang, batman!

[da99]

You guys don't want to believe me. The vehicle that I saw on the freeway looked far better than this concept! I agree with Tried on his comments.

I'm off this board for 10 days. Going on a road trip to where cell phones don't work, and there is no internet!

I believe you, but Ron....

10 days without a cell phone or internet????? Dude I'd go insane! lol Have fun on your trip and thanks for all your insight.

You too Tried.. aka our man on the inside... thanks for your insight and hints. Speaking of which, a bit off topic, but it seems we are getting closer to seeing the next Murano surface, any hints regarding that vehicle? :D

[Tried]

For the record, I'm not giving any hints or inside information...only my opinion.

How could anybody know exactly when the Murano and Maxima will surface??? I think Nissan is playing the balance between revealing new models and canibilizing sales of the current model. After the G37 was revealed, sales of the old coupe took a nosedive. I hope that the Max and Murano will be revealed ASAP. But Nissan is going to play the balancing game and make us all wait.

The most twisted thing of it all (regarding making people wait to see a car) is the GT-R. Dealerships have already started taking pre-orders...and the car hasn't even been revealed to the public yet!

[da99]

For the record, I'm not giving any hints or inside information...only my opinion.

How could anybody know exactly when the Murano and Maxima will surface??? I think Nissan is playing the balance between revealing new models and canibilizing sales of the current model. After the G37 was revealed, sales of the old coupe took a nosedive. I hope that the Max and Murano will be revealed ASAP. But Nissan is going to play the balancing game and make us all wait.

The most twisted thing of it all (regarding making people wait to see a car) is the GT-R. Dealerships have already started taking pre-orders...and the car hasn't even been revealed to the public yet!

Well, these days between the automotive press and bloggers, car makers are covered from many angles and anyone digging deep enough is bound to find out something about a particular model sooner or later. For their part the auto makers seem to be fully aware of this and I believe that sometimes they intentionally leak little bits of info here and there regarding certain models. That is what seems to be happening regarding the GT-R. Nissan knows this model is going to be huge and by letting slip small details here and there regarding the model, it continues to build interest to a fever pitch.

In the case of the Maxima and Murano, no one but Nissan really knows for sure when they will hit the streets, but some information on these vehicles has been released and reported on. We know the new ones are coming, we know they will be coming within the next year, but we don't know exactly when. Aside from the reportedly "CLS" like appearance of the next Maxima that's been reported, we know nothing about how either model will look. It's a dangerous balancing game that all manufacturers, not just Nissan, play. It's a fine line between drumming up interest in an upcoming model and risking losing sales on current models. Some seem to play the game better then others.

As for your opinion... I will only say this... I trust your opinion more then some, because I do know, as do others on the forum that you are/were "our man on the inside". So any opinion you do share with us is much appreciated.

[Lichtronamo]

Glad someone brought up the G. The G concepts that appeared turned out to be pretty close to the real deal - A lot closer than just a styling exersize. Also, the quote from the start of this topic sure seems consistent with the Intima concept:

Just spoke with someone that saw the body only of a 2009 Maxima last week. His description (no photos were allowed) was that it was as wide as Dodge Charger and the back end looked like a BMW 745.

The CLS inspired roof line on the Intima is made possible by the quasi-Bangle Butt rear end to preserve rear headroom. If this was simply a styling buck, I would have expected a even more radical shape. IMO, the Intima is clearly suggestive of the next Teana if not the NA Maxima (assuming Ron S did really see a NA Maxima mule). The concept has so many Teana cues that its almost impossible to ignore. Also the concept is more than likely a FWD platform and doesn't appear to suggest many "far-out" luxury features to be a Q or M.

[Madmaster]

I've mentioned in other threads - the new Renault Coupe concept has a diesel engine codeveloped with Nissan that is 3 liters, 265 hp, and 406 lb ft of torque. I believe this could be our next Maxima engine.

[Lichtronamo]

I've mentioned in other threads - the new Renault Coupe concept has a diesel engine codeveloped with Nissan that is 3 liters, 265 hp, and 406 lb ft of torque. I believe this could be our next Maxima engine.

I think you're right - its right in line with the engine in the M-B E320 Bluetec.

[CX35]

I have a feeling the next Max and Teana will be the same car and this definately seems to fit the bill. Without the overdone bits like the bumpers, suicide doors, and the nasty seafoam green paint it should look pretty good.

This is NOT the next Q, its obviously FWD based and in the video you can see its about the same size as the current Maxima.

[gt_performah]

I'm off this board for 10 days. Going on a road trip to where cell phones don't work, and there is no internet!

Hmmmmm. West Virginia?

[da99]

From carscoop.com:

While we doubt that a car like the Intima Concept will ever be offered in either side of the Atlantic, word has it that Nissan is planning to introduce a toned-downed production version of the Intima for the Japanese market sometime between late 2008 and 2009.

http://carscoop.blogspot.com/2007/10/nissan-intima-concept-mercedes-cls-look.html

Teana?

[da99]

From motortrend.com:

The Intima is Nissan's conceptual take on the four-door coupe. Designed to convey an image of sophistication, the exterior of the suicide-door fitted full-size sedan is accented with crystal-like lighting front and rear. Additionally, the front passenger chair swivels as much as 80 degrees to the outside. It's not outside of the realm of possibility that the Intima foreshadows the next Infiniti Q45.

http://www.motortrend.com/features/auto_news/2007/112_news071010_nissan_2007_tokyo_show_exhibit/

[da99]

From Edmunds.com:

Could this be the next Infiniti flagship?

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/News/articleId=122983

[da99]

It seems to me even the automotive press is not sure what to make of Intima, although all seem to agree that it appears closer to production compared to the other concepts. Very interesting...

[Lichtronamo]

The design is more Nissan than Infiniti, with LOTS of Teana cues (the chome on the c-pilar looks like the new Accord, however). Not to mention that front overhand which is so FWD. Even the layout of the controls on the center stack mirror the radio, HVAC and NAV screen in the US Maxima.

The diesel V-6 underhood is also a suggestion that this concept is intimating the next Teana/Maxima.

[RHMax]

It's interesting that none of the reporters even mentioned Maxima. Intima cabin looks too tight to be a Q, if Nissan wants to take the Lexus LS, MB S-Class, and 7-Series BMW on.

[Lichtronamo]

Maybe arthwerks (http://forums2.freshalloy.com/member.php?u=29494) needs to check with his friend that saw the 2009 Maxima body and give an update to this thread...

[CX35]

They are way off in thinking this is the new Q45. They don't think Nissan is going to be creative with the next Maxima. The next Q has to be bigger and more luxurious.

[SHIFT_6speeds]

This car is HOT! Just not buttoned down sporty enough for a Maxima.... ....or...maybe they will make the Maxima SL and SE more different from each other, and this is the upcoming Maxima SL? I can only hope.

[Lichtronamo]

I doubt there will be two distinctly different Maximas within the SL and SE trim packages - they have a hard enough time defining one with the growth of the last two generation Altimas.

More likely, the Maxima will SHIFT_ to be more of a direct competitor to the Avalon. Think of it as the Nissan/Toyota version of the Infiniti M in relation to the Lexus GS.

[SHIFT_6speeds]

I NEVER said there will be TWO Maximas...jeesh! Just more changes to make the SL and SE more unique from one another. And If Nissan stated that the Next Maxima was to regain the 4DSC (4-door sports car) status...that leaves AVALON out of the equation (unless the SL Maxima is after that pansy Avalon hugging crowd..and this Intima could be that possibility).

SL and SE Maximas being called TWO maximas is like saying the Sentra And Sentra SE-R are two differnnt Sentras..they aren't... one just may be a tick less crappier than the other.

[Lichtronamo]

OK - didn't mean to offend. Please allow me to clarify.

[NissLover]

Ever since the 6th gen came out, I have wanted the SE and SL to be seperated more. I think kinda like the 08 M is now.

[Lichtronamo]

I'd just like a manual, but I really doubt THAT's going to happen.

More likely is a CVT with paddle shifters. This always begs the question of why - given that the CVTs infinite ratios are supposed to keep the car in its ideal powerband, why "SHIFT_"???

Its so bad, I might do something drastic like buy a Pontiac G8.

[Lichtronamo]

Hey Ron S - look: someone who carries their cell phone/digital camera where they can reach it.

http://forums2.freshalloy.com/showthread.php?p=1499620#post1499620


Now if it only had been a Maxima...

[alingo2001]

http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/8361/intima01ev9.jpg
With a few minor tweaks it's easy to see how this could be the next Maxima.
This is pretty close to the next Maxima.

[da99]

This is pretty close to the next Maxima.

Are you speculating or do you know something the rest of us don't?

[alingo2001]

Just seen a small picture

[gt_performah]

I still think it looks too upscale to be a Maxima. I'm also not sure Nissan wants their next Maxima to look like the current Avalon. That is their direct competitor. We'll have to wait and see.

[da99]

Just seen a small picture

Interesting, will you be building the next Maxima at the plant you say you work at or do you guys just build the Altima there?

[Lichtronamo]

I'm also not sure Nissan wants their next Maxima to look like the current Avalon. That is their direct competitor.


"direct competitor" - exactly.

[Tried]

This is pretty close to the next Maxima.

I LOL'd!!!

[da99]

I LOL'd!!!

Hmmmm why would Tried be 'LOL'ing to something of this sort... hmmmmmm ;)

[NissLover]

I am guessing it means its not true. But thats only what I think..........

[da99]

Hmm this is a toughie... Alingo claims to work in a Nissan plant that builds the Altima/Maxima. Tried, as most of us all know, also works/worked for Nissan and is/was a designer on the Maxima team... hmmmm who to trust/believe....:caged:

[Lichtronamo]

Depends on what Alingo does in the plant. My father-in-law worked at a GM plant - the guys on the shop floor didn't know what what going on until it came down the line.

[Lichtronamo]

Winding Road said the concept is bigger than it appears in pictures - similar to an S-Class. This fits with the discription at the start of the thread that the next Maxima is Charger/7-Series sized.


Of couse that person may have just seen an early picture of the Intima concept.

[highside]

NONE of the pics in this thread resemble, even slightly, the next Maxima. You guys will be thoroughly impressed when you see it. The best reference would be to a Charger, but only because of the fender likeness (not saying they're the same, just similar muscle).

[SHIFT_6speeds]

NONE of the pics in this thread resemble, even slightly, the next Maxima. You guys will be thoroughly impressed when you see it. The best reference would be to a Charger, but only because of the fender likeness (not saying they're the same, just similar muscle).

Resembles the charger..now I am scared! Admit it...You said this only because tomorrow is Halloween! :eek:

[222Max]

Resembles the charger..now I am scared! Admit it...You said this only because tomorrow is Halloween! :eek:

He didn't say it resembled the Charger. Only that it had raised fenders similar to it.

[SHIFT_6speeds]

He didn't say it resembled the Charger. Only that it had raised fenders similar to it.

Doesn't anyone have a sense of humor anymore?:p

[Lichtronamo]

What's your background, Highside?

[222Max]

Doesn't anyone have a sense of humor anymore?:p

Mine's at the pawn shop. I should have enough to go buy it back by Friday.

[SHIFT_6speeds]

Mine's at the pawn shop. I should have enough to go buy it back by Friday.
:D

[07G35S]

NONE of the pics in this thread resemble, even slightly, the next Maxima. You guys will be thoroughly impressed when you see it. The best reference would be to a Charger, but only because of the fender likeness (not saying they're the same, just similar muscle).

and the plot thickens... :cool:

[joboro]

This is pretty close to the next Maxima.

The hood does, mostly, and the windows and roofline do, but not the front end, or the sides. (It's way better!) Don't ask me how I know, I'll have to kill you.:D

[NissLover]

OK this is getting ridiculous! We got people say that this resembles the new Max, then we got people saying it looks nothing like it. I just want to know one thing, WHO DA HELL LYING!?!?!?

How bout we just wait and see when the thing comes out. When is it supposed to debut anyway? I thought it and Murano would debut at the same time.

[Lichtronamo]

The Murano is due to debut at the LA show this month. The Maxima could be at Detroit in January, Chicago (like the Altima) in February or NY (which Nissan also likes to use for major debuts) in April.

[RonSteinbach]

The hood does, mostly, and the windows and roofline do, but not the front end, or the sides. (It's way better!) Don't ask me how I know, I'll have to kill you.:D
I agree with Joboro, assuming that the shrink wrap car I saw on the freeway was a 2009 Maxima. It definitely was a Nissan product, based on the shelf dash I saw in the car lifted from the Teana.

[da99]

The Murano is due to debut at the LA show this month. The Maxima could be at Detroit in January, Chicago (like the Altima) in February or NY (which Nissan also likes to use for major debuts) in April.

Just a minor correction... the 2007 Altima debuted in NY not Chicago. You are correct that Nissan loves NY for major debuts and I have a feeling that NY is where we will see the debut of the next Maxima. The New York show normally takes place in April, however for 2008 the show occurs in March. No matter where it's shown, the 3 major shows are all within a month of each other in 2008, so the wait won't be very long.

[da99]

Hey Ron, is this what you saw being tested????
http://photocdn.sohu.com/20071112/Img253191490.jpg
http://photocdn.sohu.com/20071112/Img253191489.jpg

Edit: Added picture of front end which can also be seen in other thread here: http://forums.freshalloy.com/showthread.php?t=176588

[RonSteinbach]

No, that is not what I saw! This looks like a current Maxima with slightly different tail lights.

[Tried]

Hey Ron, is this what you saw being tested????



Edit: Added picture of front end which can also be seen in other thread here: http://forums.freshalloy.com/showthread.php?t=176588

Not it.

Man, I can't believe how many views this thread has had...it might be second only to the Hot Chicks thread. Is there a way to see for sure?

[SHIFT_6speeds]

Hey Ron, is this what you saw being tested????
http://photocdn.sohu.com/20071112/Img253191490.jpg
http://photocdn.sohu.com/20071112/Img253191489.jpg

Edit: Added picture of front end which can also be seen in other thread here: http://forums.freshalloy.com/showthread.php?t=176588

This Clearly has Intima concept-like tail lamps and body shape to me. This is more than likely the Next Maxima. We'll see...

[da99]

This Clearly has Intima concept-like tail lamps and body shape to me. This is more than likely the Next Maxima. We'll see...

If Ron and Tried both say this is not it, then I tend to believe them and don't think this is it. However it could very well be the next Teana.

[SouthStar019]

what ever it is. it needs to do on a diet.

it does very much look like the current maxima. might be testing power trains.

[InfiNissan Lover]

Man, I can't believe how many views this thread has had...it might be second only to the Hot Chicks thread.

I told you guys that the 2009 Nissan Maxima is the most highly anticipated car (second to the GTR though) in the automobile world at this moment. ;)

The 2009 Maxima is in a state that it will have the power to make or break current Maxima enthusiasts. This upcoming 7th gen Maxima is very important because if it is a flop, then I feel that a lot of Maxima enthusiasts are probably going to flock on over to either Honda/Acura or the Toyota Avalon.

I have sat in a 2008 Toyota Avalon Limited and let me tell you that it surrounds you with Lexus like features and amenities. The only drawback that I see that the Avalon has is that primitive, poor excuse for a navigation system. I thought I was watching a Pac-man game. :26:

[Lichtronamo]

No doubt its the production version of the Intima (sans suicide doors, natch)

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd306/Lichtronamo/intima_01.jpg
http://photocdn.sohu.com/20071112/Img253191489.jpg

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd306/Lichtronamo/nissan_intima_press_sm.jpg
http://photocdn.sohu.com/20071112/Img253191490.jpg


The original website says the photos were taken in China. The mule looks strangely like the mating of the current US Maxima and the Intima concept. Its hard to see if there is an extra window behind the rear door like on the Teana/Intima or if its solid like the US Maxima. Definately has the fat butt of the Maxima and Altima. Its also interesting that the car is left hand drive - aren't most markets where the Teana is sold right hand drive?

[RHMax]

China is left hand drive. This could be the next Teanna, still Altima based. The rear door looks cramp, plus single exhaust on each side. I think the Maxima's rear will be more Skyline like, quad exhaust, etc.

[CoCo_PuFf]

China is left hand drive. This could be the next Teanna, still Altima based. The rear door looks cramp, plus single exhaust on each side. I think the Maxima's rear will be more Skyline like, quad exhaust, etc.

my guess is that this mule the new Samsung SM5. Samsung motors inc. consistantly uses Nissan vehicles which are modified in the looks department and then branded as Samsung vehicles. the Teana was the basis for the current Samsung SM5.....so i'm suessing that this is modified USDM Altima being modified into a Samsung car....or the next gen Teana being tested as a samsung vehicle...that would explain the right hand drive and the fact that it was caught in china....i think that's a pretty good explaination.....in other words, this is not our next maxima.;)

[steve23]

Just a couple of photoshops that I did:

Original

http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w71/srb23/NissanIntimaOriginal.jpg

PS 1

http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w71/srb23/NissanIntimaPS1.jpg

PS 2

http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w71/srb23/NissanIntimaPS2.jpg

[SHIFT_6speeds]

I like PS-1, the opening of the front bumper makes it look more sporting...but PS-2???

Please say no to more chrome! :)

[omelet1978]

First of all excellant job on the pictures.......

If these pictures are accurate then I think the best way to describe the new Maxima is to imagine the Altima going off to college and putting on the "Freshman 20". Am I the only one who thinks it looks a little bloated?

I just bought an Altima, so maybe i'm a little biased though:cool:

[ab16]

http://www.autoincar.com/nissan-intima-concept-goes-the-next-2008-teana-gallery/

http://jalopnik.com/cars/tokyo-auto-show/tokyo-motor-show-nissan-intima-concept-315264.php

[4U4ME]

http://www.autoincar.com/nissan-intima-concept-goes-the-next-2008-teana-gallery/

http://jalopnik.com/cars/tokyo-auto-show/tokyo-motor-show-nissan-intima-concept-315264.php

today is Nov 23rd;)

[Lichtronamo]

This isn't the car you saw, is it RonS?

http://www.worldcarfans.com/9071127.007/hyundai-genesis-spied-uncovered

[RonSteinbach]

This isn't the car you saw, is it RonS?

http://www.worldcarfans.com/9071127.007/hyundai-genesis-spied-uncovered

No. Completely different tail lights and dash. Front end looks different, too. The overall impression I had was that I was seeing a Nissan product. The rear of the car had that Maxima "squat" and rear wheel travel.

[Lichtronamo]

No. Completely different tail lights and dash. Front end looks different, too. The overall impression I had was that I was seeing a Nissan product. The rear of the car had that Maxima "squat" and rear wheel travel.

Just curious - the Genesis seems to be everywhere.

[gt_performah]

The plot thickens. Did you guys read this article. Raises alot of questions.

http://www.imakenews.com/infinitiscottsdale/e_article000962183.cfm

[Lichtronamo]

The plot thickens. Did you guys read this article. Raises alot of questions.

http://www.imakenews.com/infinitiscottsdale/e_article000962183.cfm

Given the source, I'd say its of questionable value. First, the Intima was clearly a styling concept, whereas the copy makes it sound like you could buy one next month. Second, as the photos and video of the concept show and the China prototype photos confirm, this is a mid-size front wheel drive car. It most likely the next Teana, not a Q.

[novyz]

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[colt45]

hey guys, i work at a nissan dealer in SA and we just had our sales rally and saw the pics of the 2009 maxima. the intima pics are close, especially in the rear end, but the front end looks nothing like that...the front end actually has a "GT-R-ish" look to it and makes the car totally freaking hot looking. they flashed the pics too quickly for me to get my camera phone going, but it is niiiiiiiiiiiiice!

If by chance this rally was at your dealership & not some big convention center....maybe the disc is laying around somewhere a manager's office. Or maybe the file is still on a laptop somewhere depending what the source was playing the video. If you could check into it...it would be great if the photos or info about any new Nissans popped up on this site by accident.

[RHMax]

hey guys, i work at a nissan dealer in SA and we just had our sales rally and saw the pics of the 2009 maxima. the intima pics are close, especially in the rear end, but the front end looks nothing like that...the front end actually has a "GT-R-ish" look to it and makes the car totally freaking hot looking. they flashed the pics too quickly for me to get my camera phone going, but it is niiiiiiiiiiiiice!
If by chance this rally was at your dealership & not some big convention center....maybe the disc is laying around somewhere a manager's office. Or maybe the file is still on a laptop somewhere depending what the source was playing the video. If you could check into it...it would be great if the photos or info about any new Nissans popped up on this site by accident.

We won't tell anyone... :26:

[SHIFT_6speeds]

hey guys, i work at a nissan dealer in SA and we just had our sales rally and saw the pics of the 2009 maxima. the intima pics are close, especially in the rear end, but the front end looks nothing like that...the front end actually has a "GT-R-ish" look to it and makes the car totally freaking hot looking. they flashed the pics too quickly for me to get my camera phone going, but it is niiiiiiiiiiiiice!

Uh huh. :26:

[novyz]

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