G37 - Pre Orders - please read IMPORTANT!!!! (UPDATED-05/31)

[BostonMerlin]

i am simply passing on information i read regarding new g37 pre-orders. this information is from a dealer who posted a note on a forum. take this with a grain of salt until you talk with your dealer.....

for me.. if true.. is a non-issue as i ordered the tech package and did not order active steer.



I received a letter from Infiniti (http://g35driver.com/forums/showthread.php?t=158208#) today on a few production issues w/ the vendors -- Rear Active Steer WILL NOT BE AVAILABLE until noted and the Rearview Monitor will be only available w/ the Technology Package, not in the Navigation package.

Infiniti has changed our orders on a few vehicles (http://g35driver.com/forums/showthread.php?t=158208#) due to the suppliers not being able to adapt their parts into the vehicles we ordered nationwide.

[Tower]

It's satellite radio for 2003 pre-orders all over again! Dear lord! :caged:

[BostonMerlin]

i emailed the sales mgr at my dealership... his reply below


The rear view camera has always been part of the Technology package and the initial build list does show WAS as an option with premium and above option groups. I can not imagine it would be delayed as it is already provided on the Sedan which is the same chasis.


take it for what it's worth. If you're concerned about an order.. just call your dealer.
bm

[aco]

According to the specs.pdf from Nissan's press site:

Technology Package: Intelligent Cruise
Control with Preview Braking, Adaptive
Front lighting System, Pre-crash
seatbelts with motion sensor on brake
pedal

Navigation Package: Infiniti Navigation
System (Hard disk drive- based), with
Infiniti controller and touch screen. Lane
guidance and building footprint
(enhanced graphics), 9.3-gigabyte Music
Box hard drive, compact flash slot, XM®
NavTraffic™ real-time traffic (requires
contract), Rearview Monitor and HVAC,
audio and navigation voice recognition


Note that Rearview Monitor is in the Navigation package.

[BostonMerlin]

According to the specs.pdf from Nissan's press site:



Note that Rearview Monitor is in the Navigation package.

yup.. that is true.. thus the reason for the post. from the OP i retrieved this info from he thought it was strange infiniti would include camera on a Nav package.. when the 07 sedan includes cam on tech pkg. If you have any concerns just give your dealer a buzz... or ignore.. whatever works.
bm

[Tower]

Pre-crash seatbelts with motion sensor on brake pedal

Something tells me if I press on the brake and reach for the radio at the same time, I'll be very unhappy with this feature. How much do I have to pay to remove this feature?

[madisonmc]

It's satellite radio for 2003 pre-orders all over again! Dear lord! :caged:

Funny, I was thinking the exact same thing. I ordered my 2003 with XM only to find out..........not so much.

[Riffster]

Something tells me if I press on the brake and reach for the radio at the same time, I'll be very unhappy with this feature. How much do I have to pay to remove this feature?

Wouldn't that depend on how hard you press on the brake? If you're slamming on the brakes, is this also the time to up the bass on a Van Halen tune? If you're not slamming on the brakes, then I don't think there will be a problem.

Besides, what are the steering wheel controls for?

And if what you need on the radio is not on the wheel - I kinda/sorta/really question your driving style if you're adjusting the fade or bass while you're braking!

Please explain yourself Tower young man - just because you're a mod doesn't mean you can't get grief (especially from an admin! :D )

- Riff

[Tower]

Wouldn't that depend on how hard you press on the brake? If you're slamming on the brakes, is this also the time to up the bass on a Van Halen tune? If you're not slamming on the brakes, then I don't think there will be a problem.
Yea, well, I'm one of the few programmers who doesn't seem to have complete faith in the computer, the designer, or the programmer. It may just well be designed so that if I tap the brake pedal, it LOCKS IN THE SEATBELTS :eek: . And, if it is dependent on how far I depress the pedal (or, gosh-that's-too-complicated, deceleration dependent), then it should also have proximity detectors in place just in case I have a lead foot.

My A/C is on permanent Manual mode for a reason.


Besides, what are the steering wheel controls for?
Power on/off, volume, & switching tracks. It's not for going from disc 1 to disc 4 with one button press. Or switching from disc to AM with the most ease.


And if what you need on the radio is not on the wheel - I kinda/sorta/really question your driving style if you're adjusting the fade or bass while you're braking!
Stop and go commuting is a pain, but that's my daily life! :) At least I don't text message or brush my teeth on the road.


Please explain yourself Tower young man - just because you're a mod doesn't mean you can't get grief (especially from an admin! :D )

- Riff
Well Mr. Admin, sir, I guess I just enjoy the old days when drivers were real drivers and didn't have to rely on all these techno gizmos to save themselves from their own mistakes. But, alas, if you need a crutch then you have my compassion and understanding. Especially since you're one of those "Admin" folks.

:p (j/k. Many people out there probably would think I drive like their grandfather.)

[selzini]

At least I don't brush my teeth on the road.

Well Mr. Admin, sir, I guess I just enjoy the old days when drivers were real drivers and didn't have to rely on all these techno gizmos to save themselves from their own mistakes. But, alas, if you need a crutch then you have my compassion and understanding. Especially since you're one of those "Admin" folks.

:p (j/k. Many people out there probably would think I drive like their grandfather.)

As far as brushing your teeth on the road, I suggest you use a toothbrush; your teeth will feel better.:eek:

And I love your comment about real drivers not relying on techno gizmos. I have a feeling, however, that you weren't referring to the Nav system. That's one of the gizmos that you have to have, right?:D

[Robbie]

Well Mr. Admin, sir, I guess I just enjoy the old days when drivers were real drivers and didn't have to rely on all these techno gizmos to save themselves from their own mistakes. But, alas, if you need a crutch then you have my compassion and understanding. ...


For grins and giggles, I just bought a used base trim 2006 MX5 (not even cruise control) for that very reason. I'm amazed how good it feels to drive a car without a computer second guessing every move. :26:

However two hrs into a nine hr trip, the novelty wears off and the luxury of the G becomes appreciated.

[Riffster]

Yea, well, I'm one of the few programmers who doesn't seem to have complete faith in the computer, the designer, or the programmer. It may just well be designed so that if I tap the brake pedal, it LOCKS IN THE SEATBELTS :eek: . And, if it is dependent on how far I depress the pedal (or, gosh-that's-too-complicated, deceleration dependent), then it should also have proximity detectors in place just in case I have a lead foot.

My A/C is on permanent Manual mode for a reason.

I've worked with enough programmers myself to not endow them with anything but very human status - neither good nor bad, just human.

Stop and go commuting is a pain, but that's my daily life! :) At least I don't text message or brush my teeth on the road.

Or watch movies (while driving), or use hairspray or read a newspaper (I've seen all of these unfortunately.)

Well Mr. Admin, sir, I guess I just enjoy the old days when drivers were real drivers and didn't have to rely on all these techno gizmos to save themselves from their own mistakes. But, alas, if you need a crutch then you have my compassion and understanding. Especially since you're one of those "Admin" folks.

:p (j/k. Many people out there probably would think I drive like their grandfather.)

On a serious note - I would like to know how the 'preview braking' feature does work indeed! I would assume some gyroscopes or acclerometers would be used in order to detect whether locking or tightening the seatbelts was warranted. If the implementation wasn't as transparent as possible (and safe) it would almost be self-defeating, never mind the purists not liking so many 'nannies' intruding on their Mario Andretti daydreams.

The good old days? Oh yes, the good old days when all the impact of an accident was transferred directly to the driver and there were no nasty medical expenses, just a quick trip to the mortuary and a fine American burial.

You do mean those days, don't you?

Oh btw, you can keep calling me calling 'Mr. Admin sir'. I like that tone! Maybe I can get a little cyber-podium to make pronouncements from as well.

- Riff

[Tower]

As far as brushing your teeth on the road, I suggest you use a toothbrush; your teeth will feel better.:eek:
LOL. Interesting idea, I'll have to try that instead! ;)

And I love your comment about real drivers not relying on techno gizmos. I have a feeling, however, that you weren't referring to the Nav system. That's one of the gizmos that you have to have, right?:D
:o Ummm....I've been thinking of getting a TomTom. Is that OK?

[Tower]

I've worked with enough programmers myself to not endow them with anything but very human status - neither good nor bad, just human.



Or watch movies (while driving), or use hairspray or read a newspaper (I've seen all of these unfortunately.)



On a serious note - I would like to know how the 'preview braking' feature does work indeed! I would assume some gyroscopes or acclerometers would be used in order to detect whether locking or tightening the seatbelts was warranted. If the implementation wasn't as transparent as possible (and safe) it would almost be self-defeating, never mind the purists not liking so many 'nannies' intruding on their Mario Andretti daydreams.

The good old days? Oh yes, the good old days when all the impact of an accident was transferred directly to the driver and there were no nasty medical expenses, just a quick trip to the mortuary and a fine American burial.

You do mean those days, don't you?

Oh btw, you can keep calling me calling 'Mr. Admin sir'. I like that tone! Maybe I can get a little cyber-podium to make pronouncements from as well.

- Riff
Don't most cars now already have some sort of gyroscope or sumthin to lock the belts? In fact, doesn't our very own G lock you down under the right circumstances? So....I'm also interested to see what they have up their sleeve....

Mr. Admin sir, I've seen you called other things in private and I thought you would prefer something else.

[TxChristopher]

Just don't wear the belt. You think the belt might be in the way to change the radio controls you should see how it impairs your ability to properly use your laptop thats on the passenger seat to post on forums while driving! :D

Silly safety egineers, what were they thinking????? :eek:

[BostonMerlin]

talk about a thread going off-topic! :eek:

[Riffster]

talk about a thread going off-topic! :eek:

You're right - the thread ninja is here.

:sign_threadhighjack

And while I'm sorry .... it's really Tower's fault BM!

Nyah, nyah, neener neener ....

- Riff

[BostonMerlin]

back on topic!

order manager at my dealer was kind enough to follow up with me regarding this issue... listed below is the blurb from infiniti corp. interesting details about allocation in there as well.



I found this in the batch, I think it answers your initial question. As you have the Tech it still would not affect your order.

Bob

May 24, 2007
Dear Infiniti Retailer,
In a letter dated May 15th, we announced that due to production and supplier sourcing issues, all G37 Coupes
ordered with Navigation package (U01/NAV) would not contain the RearView Monitor feature from start of
production (SOP). The only way to get this feature would be to order the Technology package which itself was
limited in volume.

We are happy to announce that this issue has been resolved, and vehicles ordered with the Navigation package
(U01/NAV) will receive the RearView Monitor effective with the June 18 SOP date. However, in order to get this
resolution implemented from SOP, we were forced to limit production of Navigation package (U01/NAV) for
June. As a result, some of you will receive credits when the scheduling process is completed. These credits can
be applied from June production. We were also successful in getting additional Navigation packages (U01/NAV)
for July production to mitigate the June shortfall.
We apologize for any inconvenience caused by this issue. Should you have additional questions, please contact
your DOM or National Distribution Specialist at your earliest convenience.
Infiniti Model Line Marketing

[Magellan]

This seems to say that the early production cars won’t have navigation at all.

My sense is that it is a mistake to obtain the very first cars in a new generation. Certainly pre-ordering is a bit of a gamble. I predict the first G37’s to hit the showrooms in August will be scarce, limited in color and accessory choices, with dealer prices jacked up accordingly. I think I’m going to wait until the dust settles.

[BostonMerlin]

This seems to say that the early production cars won’t have navigation at all.

My sense is that it is a mistake to obtain the very first cars in a new generation. Certainly pre-ordering is a bit of a gamble. I predict the first G37’s to hit the showrooms in August will be scarce, limited in color and accessory choices, with dealer prices jacked up accordingly. I think I’m going to wait until the dust settles.

If you were to walk into the dealer around aug i agree. pre-order is another story... you get what you signed on the dotted line for.
bm

[07G35S]

or you will receive credits ;)

[Magellan]

If you were to walk into the dealer around aug i agree. pre-order is another story... you get what you signed on the dotted line for.
bmPerhaps, but you’re ordering a car you’ve never seen, driven, or even sat in. That’s where the gamble may be.

[BostonMerlin]

Perhaps, but you’re ordering a car you’ve never seen, driven, or even sat in. That’s where the gamble may be.

we're talking about diff. things. This post is about getting the options you ordered and whether or not you'll get those options when it arrives.

Off topic.. you are correct it's a gamble to purchase a vehicle not driven. I do believe the odds are in my favor as 1) I've seen the car in person (NYIAS), 2) I've driven a 2007 sedan to get a feeling for the interior upgrades and 3) I owned a g coupe so I'm comfortable with the infiniti brand. The odds I'll like it are much better than my odds at black jack in Vegas! :)

[Pedro45]

we're talking about diff. things. This post is about getting the options you ordered and whether or not you'll get those options when it arrives.

Off topic.. you are correct it's a gamble to purchase a vehicle not driven. I do believe the odds are in my favor as 1) I've seen the car in person (NYIAS), 2) I've driven a 2007 sedan to get a feeling for the interior upgrades and 3) I owned a g coupe so I'm comfortable with the infiniti brand. The odds I'll like it are much better than my odds at black jack in Vegas! :)

When I put down $500 down and ordered my 2003 G35 Coupe 6 months before it came out, there was no gamble whatsoever. If I didn't like the way it drove, look, or smelled....I simply got my money back. The $500 held my place in line for the first allocation and I got first choice of those that arrived with my configuration. The great majority of dealers who took deposits operated that way.

If in fact, some of these deposits are non-refundable, then yes it is a gamble....one I would never take with a car like this since I am 6-3 and don't always fit in coupes (or sedans) comfortably. In fact, a couple months before the coupes arrived in late 2002, I sat in a demo at a local dealership and became very worried. I was not used to the side bolsters being so "tight" (coming from a 1999 Lexus GS400). I actually researched auto upholstery shops to see if I could "soften" the bolsters once my car arrived. In the end, I got very used to the seats and loved the car for 2.5 years.

So, are these deposits on the G37 refundable?

[BostonMerlin]

i can only speak for my deposit and it is. refundable. until you sign the contract.
bm

[dipesh42]

BM..Are you getting your G from Kelly or Herb Chambers

[BostonMerlin]

kelly. i bought my orig 2003 gc from norwood.. they're small but my salesman was great. i felt (for some dumb reason) that i'd get a new g37 quicker since kelly is a big dealer.. and from what i understand the first in the US.. nothing to back that up but i think i read that somewhere. I heard several negative remarks from friends who bought from herb so i stayed away. Herb would have been my frist pick as they are closer to my office. word of mouth is a powerful thing.

how about you?

[dipesh42]

Quirk Infiniti,impeccable in both sales and service ...Infiniti Of Norwood is a another story ...The Sales Manager/General Manager seem to care and were accountable ..The Service Dept/Service Manager were HORRIFIC..A new player opened up half a mile from work(Prime Infiniti) so I will give them a fair crack of the whip ..They were excellent for my last warranty issue ....They are new and need the BIZ so hopefully they can finnagle an EARTH SHATTERING deal for my new G37 :D

[BostonMerlin]

i've not heard of them.. where are they located? I'm digigng kelly as i've started a good dialog with the sales/order manager. my sales guy there didnt impress but as long as my ride gets here in one piece and i dont have to play any games i'll give them props to others.. until then.. its wait and see.
bm

[BostonMerlin]

Msg from an infiniti order mgr.. take it with a grain of salt.. as this is after all.. the internet.

so the first allocations we sent in w/ premium, sport, nav (no tech) were cancelled and will be built for release in september.


the Rearview Monitor will be in the Navigation package (not the Tech like the G35 (http://g35driver.com/forums/showthread.php?t=161056#) sedan (http://g35driver.com/forums/showthread.php?t=161056#))

this will be a September release instead of a August release

all other G37's -- base, journey, 6mt that were ordered as ascribed will not be affected.

Mods make it a sticky so whoever has a deposit will be notified ASAP.

[07G35S]

Does this mean you're waiting another month? :eek:

Man you could have invested that deposit and made some money with all this time on your hands ;)

[G_Nice]

my dealer indicated that I had to take the Nav to get the tech. I though it was the other way around. Does anyone know the answer? I don't really need a nav and will be using my iPod so the only real useable feature is the rearview monitor, which is not worth pay approx $2995 CND

[07G35S]

If its the same as the sedan option requirements, the tech package cannot be ordered without the premium and nav packages being ordered also.

[G_Nice]

thanks 07G35S!

Does anyone have any idea when the reviews of the G37 will hit. So far we've seen the previews, but I'm waiting for the real reviews, with indepth specs.

[07G35S]

If it goes on sale in late August (thats the reported date) I would hope to start seeing it in the car mags that ship late July. Hope thats not a silly expectation!

[Infiniti driver]

Prime Infiniti of Hanover purchased the Quirk Infiniti franchise a few months back. They are located on route 53 in Hanover, MA

I did have my FX serviced there about a month ago. I had no problems. I did purchase the FX from Herb Chambers. I will never go there again. Prime will be my first stop when the EX35 comes out later this year.