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passive

09-06-2007, 10:03 AM

From Autoblog: http://www.autoblog.com/2007/09/06/2008-mazda6-breaks-early/

Hopefully the images work :)

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/09/autoblog-mazda-6-001.jpg

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/09/autoblog-mazda-6-041.jpg

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/09/autoblog-mazda-6-032.jpg

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/09/autoblog-mazda-6-103.jpg

Sure, the interior isn't spectacular, but the exterior will really make the Altima work for it's money, and leaves everything else in the class way behind. There's plenty more pics over at autoblog, if you're interested.

helldorado

09-06-2007, 10:09 AM

Wow, I like it. Would like to see the new MS6 now. :)

And this is always nice to see too.
The only official details we have so far is that the new car will weigh less than the outgoing model and will use less fuel and emit fewer CO2 emissions to boot.

idrive

09-06-2007, 10:25 AM

Mazda6 FTW...i like it a lot, very euro, all of the best parts of audi, mercedes and euro ford...loving the wagon

miata007

09-06-2007, 10:50 AM

Very cool! I love the RX8 style fenders on this car. I wish G35 also comes in wagon form for those of us who can't afford SUV mpg.

The only thing I don't like is (assuming) Ford V6.

007

CoCo_PuFf

09-06-2007, 11:04 AM

Looks like Mazda is trying to do again what they did with the mazda3....diliver a major dosage of ownage :eek:....this car is HAWT!!!!!......now this is how you do a redesign, all the right shapes in all the right places with the right textures..........if only NIssan could be so consistent with their designs...Nissan designs always have at least one element that disrupts the overall design.

black985speed

09-06-2007, 11:29 AM

Thats a damn sexy car.

helldorado

09-06-2007, 11:38 AM

Mazda6 FTW...i like it a lot, very euro, all of the best parts of audi, mercedes and euro ford...loving the wagonI've always liked the 5 door hatch model, but I'm definitely digging the new wagon too. With the fender flares and overall design, it seems like it inherited a lot of the style elements of the RX-8 that worked really well.

NissLover

09-06-2007, 11:42 AM

Definately the best in class as far as looks. The only gripe I have with it is the rear end is kinda flat compare to the rest of the car, kinda resembles a Sebring. I know I hate when people do that but that was the first thing that came to mind. But its kinda like the Altima, but its the front end on the Altima that kinda falls short, but not a complete failure. Anyway the thing looks great!

bto

09-06-2007, 12:18 PM

Looks really good, the only problem with it, I guess I'll leave it to Sukairan to mention it...

idrive

09-06-2007, 12:40 PM

The only thing I don't like is (assuming) Ford V6.

007

G35 wagon, now thats an idea...anyway I would suspect a nice new V6 redesign to keep pace with the higher output Nissans, Honda and Camery...the ford V6's (especially duratechs) aren't really that bad, europe seems to love them for kit cars, its just the ford v6 is usually in something of piss poor design. I would imagine that Mazda and even Volvo have a lot of oversight in what they put in their cars from ford.

I can't wait to see what the Mazdaspeed version will look like.

joeB

09-06-2007, 12:44 PM

black985speed

09-06-2007, 12:55 PM

The more I look at them the more they remind me of a Lexus.

NissLover

09-06-2007, 01:23 PM

Wow, for once I agree with you. :D

LOL, do you really disagree with me that much.

themanthedog

09-06-2007, 01:34 PM

Wow, I like it. Would like to see the new MS6 now. :)

And this is always nice to see too.I love the front end and profile (the white one looks sweet) not too sure what I think of the back end. The wagon reminds me of the FX for some reason.

shirohniichan

09-06-2007, 02:28 PM

Mazda6 FTW...i like it a lot, very euro, all of the best parts of audi, mercedes and euro ford...loving the wagon

Yea, verily.

Subaru nixed the Legacy GT wagon, so Mazda may pick up some business from those who want sportier wagons instead of Outbacks.

jerrseyDriver

09-06-2007, 03:14 PM

looks great.
what are the specs of the drivetrains and how's pricing?

JayG35

09-06-2007, 04:55 PM

Now THAT is one awesome looking sedan. I will echo the best-in-class sentiments when it comes to styling, both inside and out. This looks even better than the Altima to me, which now has to settle for 2nd place.

Whereas the new Accord sedan is completley underwhelming, I'm blown away by this new 6. :bowdown: Mazda.

Can't wait to see some figures on how it performs.

WhereHaveYouBeen

09-06-2007, 05:33 PM

Home run. Will sell lots and lots.

I love Bangle's influence on car designs.

SHIFT_6speeds

09-06-2007, 05:36 PM

'87 Sentra

09-06-2007, 07:35 PM

This car is hawt...but the 4 door is the weakest link...the black on the c-pillar...that's a fake look that Nissan did with the last gen Altima...I hate fake do's, and the Sebring-look tail lamps...bleh. The 5 door and Wagon are SWEET! Too bad Mazda is part of Ford....because of this, you'll never see one with my name anywhere on the title.

What a great looking car. Mazda sure knows how to make all their cars look like winners. If only Nissan took some notes from Mazda and made ALL the cars in it's lineup look this good.

Mazda may be the only mainstream company that can truly say "ALL of our models scream sport." This car will sell lots based on style only. Who said you can't have the utility of a wagon (impressive looking) or the sportiness of a hatchback, and look good at the same time. If Mazda improved the handling (which was pretty good to begin with) and made the car stiffer, faster and more fuel efficient that the previous generation, I don't see why it shouldn't own like the Mazda3 owns the small car segment.

I don't now if I will trade mine in for this one, but one thing is for sure, looks like I will have to get another Mazda!!! There I thought I would have to get an Accord coupe...

joeB

09-06-2007, 10:54 PM

LOL, do you really disagree with me that much.

Na. :D

trondhla

09-06-2007, 10:57 PM

This car is 85% new Ford Mondeo.
Great car.

CX35

09-06-2007, 11:19 PM

This is nice. Well done Mazda. I wonder if AWD will be an option like on the Fusion/Milan/MkZ

miata007

09-07-2007, 09:55 AM

How come Ford doesn't bring all the designers/engineers from Mazda to Ford? I bet they can make a difference.

007

Not_Vin_Diesel

09-07-2007, 10:13 AM

How come Ford doesn't bring all the designers/engineers from Mazda to Ford? I bet they can make a difference.

007
My good God, truer words were never spoken! That is the first thing that came to my mind when I saw this. Why is it that they think the domestic versions have to be such yuck-boxes and the Japanese version gets to be all swoops and curves?

I really like this car, both inside and out. The rear isn't perfect, but getting a sedan booty perfect is complicated these days, and it's far from being unattractive. The interior looks very solid and if the materials are good, definitely right there for tops in class.

I feel for anyone trying to make a decision on what to buy in this segment right now. The segment used to play out like a teenage romance movie - you had the sporty car, the appliance, the undersized attractive, the ugly but loyal domestic, etc. Now the choices are quite muddled. The Malibu is a big step-up for anyone who puts domestics in the picture, the Altima has further refined it's sporty image, the Sonata strikes great understated balance, the Camry is a sportier appliance, the Accord is huge now (longer than an Acura RL?!?!) and now this from Mazda. Yeesh!

NissLover

09-07-2007, 10:42 AM

I am still trying to figure out why they supersized the Accord. I just don't see the reasoning.

I have never understood why we don't get cars like the Mondeo, or the Euro Focus. It just boggles me that the Focus is still the same car that came out in 1999! You would think that would be the first thing they would do since they are doing so bad. But nope we are stuck with crap like the Focus, 500, I mean Taurus, and the TaurusX, and the Fusion is borderline, WTH Ford! I don't care if Euro Ford is a different division of the company, I am sure it is very possible for them to bring those cars over here.

M_TYPE_X

09-07-2007, 03:35 PM

I am still trying to figure out why they supersized the Accord. I just don't see the reasoning.

There was an article about this somewhere ... the market demands it.

NSE70

09-07-2007, 03:59 PM

I am still trying to figure out why they supersized the Accord.

...while maintaining best in class handling, 2.56 turns lock-to-lock, best in class fuel economy*...
Yes it's a bit hard to understand why Honda made the Accord so big.
I mean, shouldn't Honda concentrate on getting super-uber-best-in-class fuel economy, instead of just plain best-in-class fuel economy?
Winning by 1 mpg is lame.
Honda should have microsized the Accord and got 5 mpg better than the Camry.
That would soooo incredibly like, make Americans all buy Accords.

The Mazda6, being a Ford engine, will only get better fuel economy than the Chrysler; second worse in class.

*V6 only.

NSE70

09-07-2007, 04:05 PM

I am still trying to figure out why they supersized the Accord. ...Mondeo, or the Euro Focus.

The Mondeo is 190.7" L x 74.2" W x 59" tall, with a 112.2" wheelbase.
http://www2.fordconnection.com/fordconnection/multimedia/gbr_en/00q/yys/gbr_en00qyysedimspc.htm

Nowadays they don't really make cars small over there either, especially now that SUV fever has caught on in Europe.

'87 Sentra

09-07-2007, 04:45 PM

...while maintaining best in class handling, 2.56 turns lock-to-lock, best in class fuel economy*...
Yes it's a bit hard to understand why Honda made the Accord so big.
I mean, shouldn't Honda concentrate on getting super-uber-best-in-class fuel economy, instead of just plain best-in-class fuel economy?
Winning by 1 mpg is lame.
Honda should have microsized the Accord and got 5 mpg better than the Camry.
That would soooo incredibly like, make Americans all buy Accords.

The Mazda6, being a Ford engine, will only get better fuel economy than the Chrysler; second worse in class.

*V6 only.

hm... since when is the Accord the handler in it's class? Sounds to me like you've never driven a Mazda6...

jochi

09-07-2007, 05:51 PM

Healy's article on the Accord in USA Today said the decision was made to ubersize the Accord so they can effectively attract both Camry and Avalon customers...

SHIFT_6speeds

09-07-2007, 07:14 PM

hm... since when is the Accord the handler in it's class? Sounds to me like you've never driven a Mazda6...

yeah..but they are crap. Freind of mine bought one brand new...4 months later the tranny was giving problems. The interior was cheap too. It may handle well, but it's difficult to appreciate the handling when it's up on a lift all the time.

Nismo

09-07-2007, 08:46 PM

hm... since when is the Accord the handler in it's class? Sounds to me like you've never driven a Mazda6...
I've driven both.

The Honda Accord had better suspension geometry but less sport-tuned shocks & springs. The Mazda 6 has more sport-tuned shocks & springs, but not as good geometry.

Both stock, the Mazda is the better handler; both modified (with aftermarket springs & shocks) the Honda is the better handler.

CX35

09-07-2007, 09:56 PM

The Mazda6 drives way better than the Accord to me, but the Accord wasn't too bad.

The next Fords will be shared globally, meaning the Mondeo will = Fusion, etc.

'87 Sentra

09-09-2007, 12:37 AM

yeah..but they are crap. Freind of mine bought one brand new...4 months later the tranny was giving problems. The interior was cheap too. It may handle well, but it's difficult to appreciate the handling when it's up on a lift all the time.
Interesting, I've had mine for 3 years and have never had any mechanical issues with it. Yes there is some rattling that comes from the dash, but it's not like the TSX doesn't have some rattling issues either... but then again, it's not like the Accord or TL have never had tranny problems either. By the above statement if your friend had an Accord instead would you make the same comment? And the Altima also did have cheap interior didn't it, come to think of it, before the interior redesign of the previous Altima model, that was one of the biggest complaints about the car...

So, from my experience I wouldn't call the Mazda6 crap. Instead I would call it a great handling grocery getter that actually looks better and sportier than Accord, Altima and Camry. Is it better? Well who knows, I have had no mechanical problems with mine and I don't drive like a grandma, and I do know people with Accords with tranny problems, warping rotor problems, head gasket problems, but I still wouldn't call their cars crap.

... but then again, that is just me ...

SHIFT_6speeds

09-09-2007, 10:28 AM

Altima is crap...Mazda 6 is crap. And the 6 I was speaking of had so many other issues it was just insane. The tranny was just the big major in a car full of many, many minors. Wouldn't own a 6 OR Altima,..but that's just me. :)

CharlieDigital

09-09-2007, 01:48 PM

I drove a first Gen. Mazda 6 for 4 years.

During those 4 years, there were no extraneous maintenance visits aside from standard maintenance (oil change, tire rotation, and so on). Well, I did have to go for a check engine light one time, but it came on because I left the gas cap too loose. And of course there was that accident that I was in, but can't fault the 6 for that.

The car was mechanically sound, very solid in all respects, kinda fun to drive (the V6 would have been appreciated), and low maintenance.

My only real complaint would have to be the gas mileage. With the I-4, even on long haul trips with steady speed, the best I could ever get was about 24 MPG. Terrible. I can even get 26+ in my wife's Murano.

Towards the end of the lease, I was glad to see it go since the lease my then GF (now wife) took on it was terrible. The first gen. design was also growing old pretty quickly. I was ready to move on.

However, now that I'm in a Frontier - as useful as it's been these last few months - I totally miss that "zoom zoom" :P

This iteration of the Mazda 6 has me hooked again. My first reaction was basically :eek: :26: and then :( only because I know I'll be in the Frontier for the next few years and because I get the feeling that once you own a truck, you really can't go back to trucklessness - just so damn useful.

I think Mazda is a solid brand. Their designs are top notch and leagues ahead of their competition. Their cars are solid from what I've experienced. I wouldn't hesitate to buy another one. This 6 is a home run - can't wait to see what the designers do with the 3.

watamensch

09-09-2007, 06:26 PM

Between the new 6 and the Altima, the new Accord looks like grandpa's car. I've read that the Avalon is a LeSabre from Japan... I guess the Accord is the new Grand Marquis!

SHIFT_6speeds

09-09-2007, 06:45 PM

http://www.mercuryarchive.com/1973to1978/1977GrandMarquisBrougham.jpg

This is a pretty Accord Sedan.

LigouriRd

09-10-2007, 07:40 AM

Interior and exterior the car is pure sex, however unless they do something about the electronics/tuning they aren't getting a repeat buyer outa me.

I bought my '04 new and gas-mileage (so far averaging 26mpg with the v6...seriously), handling, and utility-wise the car is great it's just a pain in the arse to drive. The throttle and clutch is so non-intuitive and the electronic throttle lag doesn't help matters. They also have stupid sensors on the car, like the one to tell when the clutch is engaged which is might be great for someone who doesn't know how to blip the throttle during high rpm shifts. Its fine when the clutch is new and at the top of the travel, but as it wears and the engagement point moves down the switch is no longer in the right place. That same sensor also does something else wierd at low rpms with the throttle when released that makes the lag worse. You can bypass it by holding it closed but you'll get a CEL in another few days. It seems that whenever I get used to the thing, I go and turn the air conditioning on and the frelling thing changes. Flat shifting sometimes helps but it still requires concious effort all the time to do it. Three years of ownership and I still don't get it.

By comparison my nissan is so much easier to shift properly even with a light flywheel and a heavy clutch. It shifts the same every time regardless of conditions...Long Live the REAL Throttle cable.

The bad thing is there really isn't anything else on the market quite like it...in this country anyway. The latest wrx 5-door is close but has no where near the interior space specially in the second row of seats. Lancer sportback mabye but its a Mitsu...crank walk ftl! Magnum = poor gas mileage. Suv's, trucks drive like...well trucks.
Bring over the Stagea or make a G35 5-door and they'll have something.
Ok, I'm done ranting.

JerryG

09-10-2007, 07:14 PM

....or make a G35 5-door and they'll have something.

I believe it's called the Infiniti EX35 (http://forums.freshalloy.com/forumdisplay.php?f=58) or the closest thing to it.

LigouriRd

09-11-2007, 05:56 AM

I believe it's called the Infiniti EX35 (http://forums.freshalloy.com/forumdisplay.php?f=58) or the closest thing to it.
hmm, never considered that, I just wrote it off as another suv. Thanx

ant_marter

09-11-2007, 09:01 PM

hmm, never considered that, I just wrote it off as another suv. Thanx
Actually how about the M35 Stagea (specs + pics of the 250T RS FOUR V):

http://specs.amayama.com/specs-nissan-stagea-2001-october/21813/

Same chassis/interior as the V35 Skyline (=G35 2003 - 2006)), slightly different face. Never exported new outside Japan tho. Production of the Stagea stopped with the introduction of the V36 Skyline (= G35 2007+).

LigouriRd

09-12-2007, 05:53 AM

Thats exactly what I am talking about...too bad they stopped making it.

Jesda

09-19-2007, 02:46 AM

If it drives as well as the last one, I dig it.

222Max

10-03-2007, 08:33 PM

Back on topic. I just read in Motor Trend that the U.S. will NOT be getting this version of the Mazda 6, Europe only. Bummer.

joeB

10-03-2007, 11:23 PM

Yeah, I read the same thing. :)

nismo604

10-03-2007, 11:43 PM

a very handsome car, but it would be better if it was RWD.

NissLover

10-04-2007, 04:58 AM

Once again we get the shaft! Why would this not U.S.?!?!

NSE70

10-04-2007, 07:40 AM

222Max

10-04-2007, 09:26 AM

I can't possibly imagine Mazda has the resources to develop 2 completely different cars for different markets.

I would bet on Motortrend being slightly wrong.
I'd bet all they mean is, well, Mazda will make some styling changes to the plastic bumper parts, and yellow corner lights will be added.

I sure hope so. But they could water it down just enough to take the sexiness out of it. We've all seen that happen before.

I remember seeing the Eunos Cosmo in England a few years ago and couldn't help but notice that is was so much better looking than the 626 we had at the time.

M_TYPE_X

10-04-2007, 08:09 PM

This happens every time I sit on a committee. "My Mazda this" and "my girlfriend that." Thank you for your report, Charlie, now let's get back to the agenda.

Item #1: Why Zoom-Zoom is inferior to Honda
Item #2: Why Zoom-Zoom is cool for poor and illiterate people
Item #3: Why I can't admit the new Mazda 6 is OK

222Max

10-04-2007, 09:14 PM

This happens every time I sit on a committee. "My Mazda this" and "my girlfriend that." Thank you for your report, Charlie, now let's get back to the agenda.

Item #1: Why Zoom-Zoom iMTs inferior to Honda
Item #2: Why Zoom-Zoom is cool for poor and illiterate people
Item #3: Why I can't admit the new Mazda 6 is OK

MTX. Let go of your hatred and then your journey toward the dark side with be COMPLETE!