saw pics of the new maxima this morning

[novyz]

:D

[RonSteinbach]

The front end of the black, shrink-wrapped car I saw on the 405 freeway in Orange County, CA looked incomplete. That would fit with your description, i.e., large open spaces. The car I saw looked much better than the Intima, though.

[Lichtronamo]

Did they say when it will debut? Detroit? Chicago? New York?

[Tried]

Glad to hear you liked it novyz! How about them doors, eh!?!

[NissLover]

Doors LOL! I see you are proud of your work. GT-R like in the front...hmmmmm.

[novyz]

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[rr_s13]

Haven't kept up with Maxima news as of late, but are they still FWD? Just curious.

[Lichtronamo]

Yes.

[colt45]

So guys that actually work for Nissan that speak only truth (thank you by the way, so tired of everybody "knowing" about the new Max)... next summer or fall?

[Tried]

Reveal: Before Summer
Available: Before Fall

General enough timing for you?

[Doriftomodachi]

:sign_needspic:

[colt45]

Reveal: Before Summer
Available: Before Fall

General enough timing for you?

That'll do sir. Thanks for sharing what you legally can. Same trim level setups or possible Nismo/SE-R version? Based upon the last Altima getting it, I was curious. But then again, those of us that really pay attention notice when companies make too many of a body style and decide to offer a 'limited' or 'performance' version to move the extras.

[Tried]

Maybe the diesel will get a SE-R moniker...or just a d.

[Lichtronamo]

Reveal: Before Summer
Available: Before Fall

General enough timing for you?

TOO GENERAL!!!

Can you be more specific on the timing of the reveal? Winter or spring (i.e. Detroit/Chicago or NY)?

[RHMax]

TOO GENERAL!!!

Can you be more specific on the timing of the reveal? Winter or spring (i.e. Detroit/Chicago or NY)?

LOL Some speific specs would be nice, like engine, tranny, available cloth or leather only, differences between SE and non-SE other than wheels/tires and wood.

[rr_s13]

Yes.

Sorry I didn't ask my question properly. I meant are the new ones going to be switched over to RWD?

[Lichtronamo]

Sorry I didn't ask my question properly. I meant are the new ones going to be switched over to RWD?

No.

[da99]

LOL Some speific specs would be nice, like engine, tranny, available cloth or leather only, differences between SE and non-SE other than wheels/tires and wood.

Will there even be an SE should be the question. Look what happened to the Murano.. no more SE trim there. Maxima could be next.

[infinitiguy]

http://www.nissanusa.com/img/supp/about/det_autoshows.jpg
could this be the new max

[altin8r]

My thought...

I would seem to me that the interior of the '09 Max would probably share many of the design queues of the '09 Murano.

[Tried]

That's the Altima. Dead give away is the door handles.

[infinitiguy]

Yes, altima and they may have fixed those ugly rear lights

[gt_performah]

http://www.nissanusa.com/img/supp/about/det_autoshows.jpg
could this be the new max

I doubt that is the Maxima but there is no way they are remodeling the Altima after a year or two even if it's just lights. The Altima looks fine just the way it is.

[colt45]

That's the Altima. Dead give away is the door handles.

Other than this being clearly an Altima, was that a hint that the new Max will be handleless or pillar mounted ala' Chevy Beretta(LOL)/Nissan Armada rear doors?

[Tried]

No hints. The relationship of the handles (from front to rear) is quite distinctive on the Altima...that's all.

[colt45]

No hints. The relationship of the handles (from front to rear) is quite distinctive on the Altima...that's all.

Thanks man. Your posts in this thread remind me of the last 007 movie how James Bond wouldn't give in & give up any info that he wasn't allowed too. LOL, for the people who've seen it.

[Lichtronamo]

Its torture enough for the rest of us having to decide if there is any hidden meaning in each of Tried's posts. I say get the bottomless chair and rope with a big knot and lets see if Tried can really hold out on us any longer!!!

[gt_performah]

Its torture enough for the rest of us having to decide if there is any hidden meaning in each of Tried's posts. I say get the bottomless chair and rope with a big knot and lets see if Tried can really hold out on us any longer!!!

lol.

[NissLover]

Uh oh look like Nissan got Novyz too!!!! LOL. Man they really watch this board. Well that lets us know that Tried hasn't really been dropping hints........

[RonSteinbach]

He delivers pizzas, don't you remember?:)

[CX35]

I'm mad I didn't even get to see what Novyz said..

[RHMax]

Uh oh look like Nissan got Novyz too!!!! LOL. Man they really watch this board. Well that lets us know that Tried hasn't really been dropping hints........

Oh crap!!!! :eek: Tighter lid than our government.

[RHMax]

I'm mad I didn't even get to see what Novyz said..

GTR-like front end... :D

Am I going to get -/. too?

[InfiNissan Lover]

I really hope that the "new" gas V6 engines on the 7th gen 2009 Maximas and up DON'T PING! :mad:

Nissan knows that gasoline stations are adding that ethanol/methanol/oxygenate crap in the gas they sell. So, Nissan really needs to update their engines so that their engines can burn those additives correctly without making the engine ping and thus annoying the hell out of customers like me who have been loyal to the Nissan brand even after 3 disappointing Nissan product purchases. :mad:

I know that in the Nissan Maxima's owners manual (pg. 9-4) it says that light spark knock going up hills and at heavy engine loads is beneficial for fuel efficiency but I just CANNOT believe it. There is nothing efficient about an engine that has predetonation - which is what spark knock/engine ping is. There is nothing benefical about the piston knocking up and down the combustion chamber.

Nissan also says on pg. 9-4 that if the pinging is constant on level roads then to bring in the car to a Nissan dealer so that the condition can be fixed. In the manual it states pretty aggressively that the issue can be fixed.

I have researched this and came to the conclusion that engine ping on a brand new car can result from mostly ignition timing due to a very smart salesperson putting in 87 octane in my brand new car on its first tankful. It could be that or a malfunctioning EGR.

I swear that I hate engine ping. I hate light engine ping and I obviously hate heavy engine ping. It is the most annoying sound anyone could ever hear in a car aside from interior rattles.

I really think that this 2008 Nissan Maxima will be the last Nissan product I purchase.

[colt45]

I really hope that the "new" gas V6 engines on the 7th gen 2009 Maximas and up DON'T PING! :mad:

Nissan knows that gasoline stations are adding that ethanol/methanol/oxygenate crap in the gas they sell. So, Nissan really needs to update their engines so that their engines can burn those additives correctly without making the engine ping and thus annoying the hell out of customers like me who have been loyal to the Nissan brand even after 3 disappointing Nissan product purchases. :mad:

I know that in the Nissan Maxima's owners manual (pg. 9-4) it says that light spark knock going up hills and at heavy engine loads is beneficial for fuel efficiency but I just CANNOT believe it. There is nothing efficient about an engine that has predetonation - which is what spark knock/engine ping is. There is nothing benefical about the piston knocking up and down the combustion chamber.

Nissan also says on pg. 9-4 that if the pinging is constant on level roads then to bring it in to a Nissan dealer so that the condition can be fixed. In the manual it states pretty aggressively that the issue can be fixed.

I have researched this and came to the conclusion that engine ping on a brand new car can result from mostly ignition timing due to a very smart salesperson putting in 87 octane in my brand new car on its first tankful. It could be that or a malfunctioning EGR.

I swear that I hate engine ping. I hate light engine ping and I obviously hate heavy engine ping. It is the most annoying sound anyone could ever hear in a car aside from interior rattles.

I really think that this 2008 Nissan Maxima will be the last Nissan product I purchase.

Since they don't have any new engines other than possibly passing down an Infiniti G engine, your rant will be in vain. At least your car is under warranty....

[InfiNissan Lover]

Since they don't have any new engines other than possibly passing down an Infiniti G engine, your rant will be in vain. At least your car is under warranty....

I guess I should have been a bit more specific. I should have said the improved engines in the 7th gen 2009 Maximas and up. The Altima has an "80% improved" 270 HP VQ V6 which will no doubt go into the next Maxima possibly pushing out 290 - 300 HP.

I hate having warranty work done to my car only because the outcome is sometimes worse than when it went in. For example: the radio went in for service and now the middle panel has scratches and oil marks all over it. Nissan's customer service is just sad, but oh well.

-End of rant- :)

[InfiNissan Lover]

GTR-like front end... :D

Hope this means that the 2009 Maxima gets those "super wide beam" xenon headlights that Nissan mentioned their new GT-R to have.

[colt45]

I guess I should have been a bit more specific. I should have said the improved engines in the 7th gen 2009 Maximas and up. The Altima has an "80% improved" 270 HP VQ V6 which will no doubt go into the next Maxima possibly pushing out 290 - 300 HP.

I hate having warranty work done to my car only because the outcome is sometimes worse than when it went in. For example: the radio went in for service and now the middle panel has scratches and oil marks all over it. Nissan's customer service is just sad, but oh well.

-End of rant- :)

I think it should get at least 300 horses, especially since they gave it to the last G sedan before changing body styles. This car has to outperform Accord & Camry (both around 270hp) by a long shot in order to really be considered a 4DSC again. I feel you about having warranty work done as my other 2 cars are non-Nissan products (03 M45,01 Monte Carlo SS, 93 Civic EX). My problem is loaner cars that are lower class than what you drive. I actually like driving G loaners, but would prefer an FX. I hated driving Cavaliers though,LOL. They should put customers in a better car than what they drive as to get them to upgrade considering most people don't go backwards in lifestyle. But I have seen this happen before (only when the dealer knows you can afford a higher class car now, or you've been a repeat customer, or they're genuinely good hearted), but rarely.

[NissLover]

What exactly does engine ping sound like? LOL. I know that is a dumb question, but I don't think I have heard it before. Is it the sound you hear when you turn the car off, I have noticed some cars do that when they are first turned off. I don't think I have head any "pinging" come from my I.

[RHMax]

What exactly does engine ping sound like? LOL. I know that is a dumb question, but I don't think I have heard it before. Is it the sound you hear when you turn the car off, I have noticed some cars do that when they are first turned off. I don't think I have head any "pinging" come from my I.

When it knocks like a diesel, usually under heavy load like going up a hill. I'm sure you heard it before.

[crazyikimasho]

:sign_needspic:

Agreed! Where are the spy pics!

[JerryG]

I really hope that the "new" gas V6 engines on the 7th gen 2009 Maximas and up DON'T PING![B] :mad:



Off topic for another thread, but at this point I think there is little evidence that this is systemic and not an isolated case. Ron S. says he runs non-prem in his 07 Max. To my knowledge he hasn't complained about pinging.

I also seriously doubt that one initial tank of non-prem caused this - there's no logical reason for the ECM to compensate, if necessary, and not "go back". There must be some specific problem here. I do agree, however, that wty work is hit/miss for intermittent problems. The dealer claimed they couldn't reproduce the rattle in my rear deck after having it all day. When I picked it up, it was rattling before I got out of the parking lot. :rolleyes:

[RetAF]

What exactly does engine ping sound like? LOL. I know that is a dumb question, but I don't think I have heard it before. Is it the sound you hear when you turn the car off, I have noticed some cars do that when they are first turned off. I don't think I have head any "pinging" come from my I.Worst case, it sounds something like shaking a tin can full of marbles. I have never heard it in my X, and I have burned 87 octane in it since new, other than trying a couple of tanks of the good stuff to see if there was a significant advantage. For normal, say up to 6/10, driving, I saw no difference. Max her out, though, and you want the good stuff. My TL was the same way, as is my Ram truck. Do not accept one dissatisfied person`s rant as being true for all cars made by Nissan.

[InfiNissan Lover]

Ron S. says he runs non-prem in his 07 Max. To my knowledge he hasn't complained about pinging.

I think about Ron every single time my car pings and then I ask myself, "Of all the Maximas out there that perform fine with 87 octane why does mine have to be the one to ping with premium fuel?!"


Do not accept one dissatisfied person's rant as being true for all cars made by Nissan.

Funny thing is that the 5 Nissan Maximas that I test drove had no ping whatsoever and were overall great experiences, which is why I bought the car. Today (12-14-2007) I filled up with Mobil 93 octane and the car just started pinging horribly. :( I did notice that the car IS trying to fight the pinging as the pinging did go from clackity clack to a lighter kind of ping.

You wanna hear something funny? The Infiniti I35 that I got rid of for this 2008 Maxima used to ping like a b!*#^ too, and I always used premium gas in that car since I bought it with 3,400 miles on the odometer from a poor excuse of a dealership in Long Island. No engine ping was the first thing I was hoping, wishing and praying that my next car would not have and here we are with a can full of marbles again. :rolleyes:

I think maybe it is time to test Toyota waters the next time I get a chance to buy a brand new car. Either that or wait and go with Nissan's upcoming diesel Maxima. At least you won't get too much trouble with a fuel that doesn't have so many octane levels, additives and other unnecessary crap.

However, I don't fully blame Nissan for my 2008 Maxima's pinging problem. I also blame the fact that ethanol, methanol, or oxygenates are now being added into gasoline by the brands.

I wish it were the good ole days again where premium gas was like $1.60 a gallon with no ethanol in it. I had two Maximas around that time (a '92 and a '98) that were both pure love in regards to engine performance. *Sigh* The stupid decisions we make sometimes people, I swear! :(

Oh well, I'll be definitely trading in this Maxima in about 3 more years for a new car so I guess......too bad, so sad, bye-bye.

PS- Sorry to have gone super off topic. :o

[RHMax]

I think about Ron every single time my car pings and then I ask myself, "Of all the Maximas out there that perform fine with 87 octane why does mine have to be the one to ping with premium fuel?!"




Funny thing is that the 5 Nissan Maximas that I test drove had no ping whatsoever and were overall great experiences, which is why I bought the car. Today (12-14-2007) I filled up with Mobil 93 octane and the car just started pinging horribly. :( I did notice that the car IS trying to fight the pinging as the pinging did go from clackity clack to a lighter kind of ping.

You wanna hear something funny? The Infiniti I35 that I got rid of for this 2008 Maxima used to ping like a b!*#^ too, and I always used premium gas in that car since I bought it with 3,400 miles on the odometer from a poor excuse of a dealership in Long Island. No engine ping was the first thing I was hoping, wishing and praying that my next car would not have and here we are with a can full of marbles again. :rolleyes:

I think maybe it is time to test Toyota waters the next time I get a chance to buy a brand new car. Either that or wait and go with Nissan's upcoming diesel Maxima. At least you won't get too much trouble with a fuel that doesn't have so many octane levels, additives and other unnecessary crap.

However, I don't fully blame Nissan for my 2008 Maxima's pinging problem. I also blame the fact that ethanol, methanol, or oxygenates are now being added into gasoline by the brands.

I wish it were the good ole days again where premium gas was like $1.60 a gallon with no ethanol in it. I had two Maximas around that time (a '92 and a '98) that were both pure love in regards to engine performance. *Sigh* The stupid decisions we make sometimes people, I swear! :(

Oh well, I'll be definitely trading in this Maxima in about 3 more years for a new car so I guess......too bad, so sad, bye-bye.

PS- Sorry to have gone super off topic. :o

Wayyyyy OT, but I have an 05 Max with TS ECU, and only pings occasionally when I don't get gas at my usual places.

[RonSteinbach]

Take your car in to the dealer! There is something wrong, maybe a bad oxygen sensor or crank position sensor. Your car isn't supposed to ping like you describe.

I have 17,000 miles on my '07 Maxima and no pinging whatsoever. I just filled it with Costco gasoline again last night, and I have even burned Terrible Herbst brand in Lake Havasu City, AZ without any problem. I have burned all the different brands.

With my '04 Maxima, the same was true. The only problem with that car was a buzzing parcel shelf in the back window, which the dealer fixed on the third try with women's makeup sponges (triangle foam wedges) between the shelf and back window. (If you knew the sponges were there, you could see them looking from outside the car. But which would you rather have??)

[chillaZ]

When will the Max Debut at which show? I really hope nissan step it up on this Max, seeing the Intima, looks as if they got the styling right this time around. Too bad its still a FWD:eek:

[4U4ME]

2008 NewYork auto show

[da99]

2008 NewYork auto show

Which runs from March 21-30 with press days occurring on March 19-20. Therefore, expect it to be unveiled on one of those two press days, whichever day Nissan happens to have theirs. If we are lucky we may see spy shots of a test mule sometime in January or February. If we are extremely lucky we may see the real deal about a week or so before the press days.

[Lichtronamo]

Did they move it up? I thought it was always in April.

[da99]

Did they move it up? I thought it was always in April.

Normally yes it is in April, but it seems that for whatever reason they hold it around the Easter holiday, which this coming year happens to fall in March and not April. What that means is in 2008 we will have 3 major Auto Shows happening within a month of each other. Detroit in January, Chicago in February and New York in March.

[steevo]

My current Max lease is up May 5th ... Any shot the new Maxima will be available by then?:(

[colt45]

My current Max lease is up May 5th ... Any shot the new Maxima will be available by then?:(

From a Nissan designer, the unvailing will be in spring and release will be in fall. Due to not wanting to get fired, that is limit of what could be said. So long story short, probably September before one can be picked up.

[RHMax]

From a Nissan designer, the unvailing will be in spring and release will be in fall. Due to not wanting to get fired, that is limit of what could be said. So long story short, probably September before one can be picked up.

As a true 2009 model, not 2008.5? That's a long time for the aging 08 to be on the lot.

[colt45]

As a true 2009 model, not 2008.5? That's a long time for the aging 08 to be on the lot.

Post #10 on page 1. I correct my statement. He says it will be unveiled before summer and available before fall. So maybe July/August, but either way, I don't think it will be in May when the poster I responded to wants to pick one up as his lease expires. But....who knows for sure, just guessstimating based upon usual times cars come out and his answer of when it would come out. But considering the GT-R coming in spring, I see the release as a good marketing strategy. Since the new Max will have some GT-R cues in the front, it would help the hype of sales for it because the guys that want a GT-R but will probably never own one will hopefully settle on a Max.

[EarlyS13]

Just to add more fuel to the fire,

I just took an online survey about the new Maxima. It began by showing me a "potential" commercial for the Maxima. It's animated, I think they call it cell shading or something similar. You'll have to forgive me if things sound sketchy, but I'm writing all this down while it's still fresh in my mind.

It begins by showing a black current gen Max driving down a road,

It flashes to a black screen with " THE LEGENDARY VQ ENGINE" in white letters,

Flashes to a white Maxima driving,

Black screen again with '"SMOOTH SHIFTING CVT TRANSMISSION",

Interior shot of a car with a G35-like dash, (remember this is all animated so no clear pics)

Black screen with "DRIVER ORIENTED COCKPIT",

Shot of driver behind the wheel,

Black screen with "MERGED TOGETHER AS ONE"

Now it shows both cars driving side by side on a road, with both cars combining together to become,

'THE RETURN OF THE FOUR-DOOR SPORTS CAR!"

the merged Maxima looks nothing like the sketch from the other thread. It looks almost like a CTS. vertical, angular headlights. New corporate grill. More angles and edges. It doesn't look like a CLS, but it doesn't look like the Intima either. I wish I could've gotten a screen shot while the commercial was playing, but I wasn't prepared. I did manage to take a screen shot of part of the survey,

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y284/JazeeeJeff/S5/Picture2.png

I hope someone else gets to take this survey and confirm what I just saw. It was a cool ad.

[Jawad]

Nice. So the head lights don't look like Murano ish? I was wondering if Nissan is moving away from stacked headlight look, also seen in the Nissan Forum concept. From what you've described though, it'll be refreshing from the current look.

[steevo]

Funny, I think that sketch in the other thread looks like a CTS, except for the sloping roof.