civic vs 240 ?

[opticnerv]

My friend has a 1998 Honda Civic coupe that is fully built and turbo'd. He's making 580 Horse on pump gas. He does high ten second passes right now on the quarter mile with slicks.

I just got my first 240, and I'm planning a KA-T build but, I noticed that most of the cars that are running 500 plus Horse stay in the 11-12 second range on the quarter mile.

I know that there are many variables such as weight, turbo size, tires ect...

I'm personally not even into drag racing, just really curious as to why the Honda's seem to dominate.

[maximajim]

Hp/weight ratio.

[opticnerv]

Let's say for arguments sake my 240 had as much power as his civic will a 300 pound diffrence take 1-2 seconds off my time ?? I'm thinking 240's arent very good at the 1/4 mile.

[maximajim]

The general rule of thumb is for every 100lbs = 1/10th second in the 1/4 mile. A lot of 240sx just can't put down all the power.

[opticnerv]

I'm not promoting street racing, but how about a pull on a 50mph roll ? KAT would have alot more torque. MY friend is close to 600whp but only 300 torque

[xander432]

I thought a car with more TQ gets out the gate quicker. (if there was minimal wheel spin) so you would think that it would be better to go from a dig.

Me and my buddy have almost similar power(HP) cars, mine being a SR S14 with GT2871R and he has a B18 civic hatch with a sc61. From a roll I always jump out in front but he runs me down in 4th...

[opticnerv]

see that's what I'm saying !! why ?? Does it have anything to do with hondas just having better flow ??

[R@mon]

a civic with enough power to go 10.xx probably wont hook worth **** on a regular street unless its got some serious rubber, the one in the video has 235 mickey thompson radials on it and it still spins hard from a 60 roll while my car just hooks.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKZRYRZlP8M

[Doluck]

IRS is never helps in drag..

[opticnerv]

I always thought civics has IRS. Multi link rear is the same thing right ?? R@mon your right my friend spins all the way until 4th with street tires like he could be in fourth gear just cruising but when he gives it some gas it spins.

[opticnerv]

Not to get off topic but doluck did you hear about FEMA " officially" becoming part of homeland security. Also about qaeda's death threats toward oboma and how they called him a house negro, its so dumb there was definitely an american behind those words lol.

[roadracer4life]

the problem is most of you guys arent willing to build a car for drag racing.. get some 26in MT et streets set them to about 12psi.. put your stock 100K+ rear shock and struts back on the car.. and make damn sure you are rockin some sort of launch control.. 1.5 60' are no problem for our cars and the best you will ever see a street fwd drive car pull is 1.6.. fast and quick shifts and your good to go..
Its not that hard but there are alot "ALOT" more 10 sec hondas out there than any other import.. There parts to make them fast are all over the place and cheap as hell..

[Doluck]

I always thought civics has IRS. Multi link rear is the same thing right ?? R@mon your right my friend spins all the way until 4th with street tires like he could be in fourth gear just cruising but when he gives it some gas it spins.

Yea that are, that part of th ereason that have traction issues. Remember how Chris Rado was making this cars with a solid front axle. The 240 suffers the same issue, its just not built for drag. Its easy as cake to get into the 11sec range, past that is the hard part. The good thing about the 240 tho is that it wont take as much work to make the 600hp needed for a 10sec pass as a honda or others do.


Not to get off topic but doluck did you hear about FEMA " officially" becoming part of homeland security. Also about qaeda's death threats toward oboma and how they called him a house negro, its so dumb there was definitely an american behind those words lol.
The National Preparedness and Response Authority (NPRA), yea. That gonna put a damper on my income!!

As for the the Al Qaeda crap, I dont know how I feel yet. This could just be another bs tape cooked up buy the goverment like the one they made of Bin-Lauden claiming he attacked us in 01.
They would do this to add credit to Obama and what ever he stands behind, also would help to ease all the wack jobs going on about how he is a terrorist. Could be smoke and mirrors, or like Richard Clarke, “Obama’s election,” he said, “has taken the wind out of Al Qaeda’s sails in much of the Islamic world” by proving yet again that democracy can “overcome ethnic, sectarian, or racial barriers” and by renewing America’s “commitment to multiculturalism, human rights, and international law.”.

We just have to wait and see..

[( . Y . )]

because u should drift ur 240 not straightline it. straightlineing a 240 is stupid and.... just stupid. drift! draging is gay! ahahah

[Doluck]

because u should drift ur 240 not straightline it. straightlineing a 240 is stupid and.... just stupid. drift! draging is gay! ahahah

You a$$ is going to hurt when you fall from that wagon......

[turtl631]

This thread is pretty terrible...but yea. Very few people build 240s for drag...most of the big power cars are just street or drift cars. Offhand, I know Brad from ka-t.org is in the 10s with a turbo KA (GT35R) and a C4 auto tranny. With some careful planning and a good auto trans behind it, I'm sure it's not too difficult to go 10s in an S chassis.

[SilverArrow27]

You a$$ is going to hurt when you fall from that wagon......

I was just about to say that LOL :hsdance:

[( . Y . )]

ahah dragings for people that rnt good enough to drift. ahah woohh u can make ur engine go fast with ur money. ahah all im saying is if ur gonna own a 240 drift it dont drag it.

[R@mon]

ahah dragings for people that rnt good enough to drift. ahah woohh u can make ur engine go fast with ur money. ahah all im saying is if ur gonna own a 240 drift it dont drag it.

please slide and die

[( . Y . )]

ahahah dont forget about ur little nos bottles to get a better time lol, ok im done. ahahah.

[veilside180sx]

Who let the troll in?

ahahah dont forget about ur little nos bottles to get a better time lol, ok im done. ahahah.

[tomeiedsr20]

ahahah dont forget about ur little nos bottles to get a better time lol, ok im done. ahahah.
So where do you drift around here....? Have fun when you get a wreckless driving ticket "drifting" around a target parking lot, oh and :sign_plzdie:

[( . Y . )]

its called Elko race track. drift days. duhhh. learn ur ****.

[Doluck]

its called Elko race track. drift days. duhhh. learn ur ****.

Right.... either way, there is a drift forum for you to troll around in. There is no need for you here as your bring nothing to the table other than BS.
Please leave now!

[R@mon]

Right.... either way, there is a drift forum for you to troll around in. There is no need for you here as your bring nothing to the table other than BS.
Please leave now!

Expect anything more from a trendy drifter with ( . Y . ) as a name? lol

[ls1pwr]

lol a 240sx has a $hit load more potential then a front wheel drive honda. and they dont make the best drag cars cause their wrong wheel drive. just so u know there are 400rwhp fox body mustangs running low 10's and there are 3400+ lbs camaros running the same numbers with 450rwhp so its all in the setup to run 10's. TRACTION is KING $hit in the 1/4 mile.

[_Def_]

There are so many 10 sec Hondas out there because those guys don't think it's odd at all to drop $10k+ in a "basic" engine build and turbo kit, and $15k+ engine builds aren't that rare. Rarely do you see a 240 with that kind of money dumped into the engine. Most modified 240s are street cars with maybe 400-450 rwhp max, and while that can do a 10 sec pass on a more purpose built drag car, it's not going to do it in a 2800+ lb street car with stiff coilovers.

Get an S13 and do some basic weight removal and weld up the diff with some slicks and you can launch like hell as long as the trans stays together(a function of traction).

[steve shadows]

Yeah as long as the trans and axles do...

Just grab an SR, a 50 Trim T04E, some 264 cams, a straight 3 inch pipe off the turbo out to the back of the car, Through some 9 inch ET Street Slicks on your stock rear wheels, weld up the diff, Strip the car down, grab an enthalpy tune or a used Power FC, blow about 30 PSI through the motor on C16, that will get you into the 10s in an S-chasis, and shouldnt cost more than about 10K if budgeted properly

Granted you will get kicked off the track because you dont have a cage haha

I wish I had some more room and money I would show just how cheap you could build a 240sx to run drag (10s) these days, things are so much cheaper and more available it's ridiculous

[bl200sx]

ya, I will take a 240 over a FWD Honda any day, well but a snow day. :D ;)

[jaymark6655]

I agree if it were built right a 240 could run 10, cheap. It is just typical for people that build 240s are more interested in drifting or autox than drag racing. How much HP was that JUN car making that ran a 7sec quarter?

[Erjay1]

You cannot compare a civic to a 240sx. Who cares that your civic goes faster in a straight line. If you want to drag race then get your self something small and light (uhh....a civic maybe?) however if you want all around performance good for street and track then a 240 is for you my friend.

[jdmser]

I agree if it were built right a 240 could run 10, cheap. It is just typical for people that build 240s are more interested in drifting or autox than drag racing. How much HP was that JUN car making that ran a 7sec quarter?


IIRC it was right around 800hp. The big difference in them hooking up seems to be the JUN drag member. They increased the angle of the control arm mounts to make the anti-squat more aggressive.

[a_ahmed]

if u just wana do up a drag build with no handling in mind... put a v8 dont waste money on an sr.

a chevy iron block and turbo = more power than u can tract.

Should be less than 10k for sure.... i dont know why anyone would wana spend 5k or 10k on an aging 2 liter abused 4 banger.... for 8k< u could do an LS swap and be in 11s for sure on slicks ...... with an iron block variant (cheaper) and a big not necessarily fancy turbo.. and auto tranny even (cheaper than t56 probably)... some drag slicks.... u could have more power than u can even put down... and.... be cheaper and more durable/reliable.

[a_ahmed]

but to add to the above... i bet an h22 and stripped crx would be a cheaper solution lol...