r32, z32, r35 Chassis code confusion

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I would like to clear something up.

The R35 may be rwd, but the BNR35 probably won't be.

The GTR's system is not AWD, it is 4 wd, there is a difference.

R34, r32,r33, The "R" doesn't designate the GTR model, it is a chassis code, like FD3s is the newer RX7, Z32 is the Z. BNR32 is a GTR HCR32 is a GTS-t.

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Just curious but what is the difference between AWD and 4wd?

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial[/img]quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Vspec:
Just curious but what is the difference between AWD and 4wd?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

if im not mistaken
AWD is one front tire and one back tire doing the job and when needed tourque is sent to ther other 2 tires
4WD its either the back of front that rotates and when needed, torque is sent to the other 2 tires

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AWD is 4 wheels all the time, all wheel drive. 4 wheel drive is PART time, not all wheels are always getting the power.

i.e. Eagle Talon, AWD
GTR is 4 wheel drive, it is usually rwd, 4wd only when g sensor triggers it, the rear wheels slipping. Also, in my acr, the torque meter went up, and the car got noticibly slower, when the rear tires were shot. The computer thought the rear wheels were slipping, because the diameter of the tire was smaller. the GTR is sensative/

[thearabian]

I heard some cars have example the front right wheel and the back left wheel that turn and the other two kick in when needed whats that, 4WD also?

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If the front and rear are powered simultaniously, full time, regardless of how many wheels actually get the power, it is awd. That doesn't mean to be read as all four wheels are powered all the time, we can get deep into this with open/limited slip diff, transfer cases, etc. This is the Z post isn't it? Z is 2 wd, fr right? Please read my first reply. 4wd is part time. AWD is full time.

Eric

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial[/img]quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ekisela:
If the front and rear are powered simultaniously, full time, regardless of how many wheels actually get the power, it is awd. That doesn't mean to be read as all four wheels are powered all the time, we can get deep into this with open/limited slip diff, transfer cases, etc. This is the Z post isn't it? Z is 2 wd, fr right? Please read my first reply. 4wd is part time. AWD is full time.

Eric <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Do you remember Subaru used to call it's 4wd system 4wd a couple of years ago? They have subsequently changed the name to AWD for marketing reasons, yet the actual system has not changed, this would imply that there actually isn't any difference between AWD and 4wd, they are just 2 different names for the same thing.
Also the Mitsubishi Evo 6, and Galant VR4 are both listed by Mitsi as having full time 4wd, but by your definition is actually AWD.
So i would say that AWD and 4wd is the same thing.

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial[/img]quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Vspec:
So i would say that AWD and 4wd is the same thing.
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then what do you call systems used in trucks where all 4 wheels are used only in low traction situations and is engaged manually?

i've always used "AWD" for cars where 4 wheels are powered when the car needs it and the system activates itself. "4WD" i use for trucks and the like where the driver has to engage the 4WD system.

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I started a topic in "nissan techincal forum" pertaining to the subject of AWD, 4WD.

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial[/img]quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by 03:
Originally posted by Vspec:
So i would say that AWD and 4wd is the same thing.
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then what do you call systems used in trucks where all 4 wheels are used only in low traction situations and is engaged manually?

i've always used "AWD" for cars where 4 wheels are powered when the car needs it and the system activates itself. "4WD" i use for trucks and the like where the driver has to engage the 4WD system.

Go to Mitsubishi-motors.co.nz, here they describe the Lancer evo 6 and Galant VR4 as having full time 4wd, there is no mention of awd.
There is part time 4wd and full time 4wd, i suppose you could say that awd is another word for full time 4wd.
What you are describing for Trucks is part time 4wd.

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OK, I will break it down. The GTR is 4wd, activated by a G sensor. That was the topic. The mitsu's are awd. Just because one's a truck, ones a car, doesn't mean squat. I really don't care what the NZ Mitsu web site says, websites can be wrong, and so can I. I was simply trying to state there is a difference. If you don't trust what I say, check the following article out. You guys think I am a fruit cake or something. I have been doing this for while, trust me.

Eric

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Here is the skinny. I wish you guys would believe what I am saying. I have been in the buisness a while. I am not some fruit cake. Here is the definitive answer. I will always back myself with facts!! The BOTTOM line...GTR is 4 wd. Mitsu..AWD

Eric