GA16DE Owners Post

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Greetings...This my 1st hour/day at freshalloy.com and most of what I have seen so far talked about is the newer Sentra SR20DE and other Nissan family engines. I know back at Sentra.net there were quite a few 1.6 owners, but I'm just curious as to how many of you out there besides me still see a potential in the GA16DE. Any thoguhts on the new turbo or this small powerplant? You can check out my small start at www.akafa1c.nissanpower.com (http://www.akafa1c.nissanpower.com) . Later!

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Nice detailing! How is the Naxos muffler? Is it loud? Did you notice a difference in power?

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I hope your car would be a great Nissan enthusiast car success ,put some more power on it ,I did recomend to put an Avanced Clutch Technology clutch to put some power to the ground another sugestion are:
1. Magnecor wire's 8.5 or 10.0.
2. Spiral max (2 preferably) reduced mpg consumption and hopped up the horsepower.
3.Superchips computersuperchips.com (http://www.superchips.com) .
4.www.nis-knacks.com
5.And the best one http://forums.freshalloy.com/forum/images/icons/grin.gif if you don't have any name for your called like my nick (HonduhToyokiller) http://forums.freshalloy.com/forum/images/icons/cool.gif

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Evil Harp....thanks for the compliment, without custom rims it's hard to make a Sentra more presentable...not to say that I'd slack off if I did...anyways, as for the Naxos, it sounds very nice! It's deep, gutteral, and absolutely no raspiness or buzzing (2.25" mandrel piping from the cat-back and no resonator). It's not too loud that you can't talk inside the car. I don't have too much to say at this point as how much better my car performs...when I drove off with it the 1st time I was very satisfied. I'd like to drive a stock Sentra just to remember what it feels like.

HTK.....I will need a clutch soon....this is probably my next modification! I'm just hoping the OEM clutch will hang in there til I save up some more loot! As for the SpiralMax, it looks to be like a gimmick. I never heard many good things about it. Who knows though....Superchips? Never knew one could upgrade the chip in the ECU...Hmmm...

Thanks guys!

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Stay away from spiral max and superchips. If you don't want to trust me (the webmaster of sentra.net btw http://forums.freshalloy.com/forum/images/icons/smile.gif), ask Mike Kojima.

Who says you can't look good with OEM rims? 200SX SE-R rims on a classic is killer! Now try to find them, that's another story!

For the clutch: ACT makes the best god damn clutch for the GA16DE, I had one in my classic, it grabbed like a mofo. It doesn't add any HP to your engine, but believe me, you car will be faster (it's incredible how you can launch hard with this thing). You just have to get accustomed to the stiffer pedal. I have a stock clutch in my Sentra SE 2000 and I miss my ACT!

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial[/img]quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by AKAFA1C:
HTK.....I will need a clutch soon....this is probably my next modification! I'm just hoping the OEM clutch will hang in there til I save up some more loot! As for the SpiralMax, it looks to be like a gimmick. I never heard many good things about it. Who knows though....Superchips? Never knew one could upgrade the chip in the ECU...Hmmm...

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They say they garantized with 100% money back guaranteed check the site www.spiralmax.com (http://www.spiralmax.com)

For something cool checke this site nis-knacks.com (http://www.nis-knacks.com) http://forums.freshalloy.com/forum/images/icons/wink.gif

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial[/img]quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by DropD:
Stay away from spiral max and superchips. If you don't want to trust me (the webmaster of sentra.net btw http://forums.freshalloy.com/forum/images/icons/smile.gif), ask Mike Kojima.

Who says you can't look good with OEM rims? 200SX SE-R rims on a classic is killer! Now try to find them, that's another story!

For the clutch: ACT makes the best god damn clutch for the GA16DE, I had one in my classic, it grabbed like a mofo. It doesn't add any HP to your engine, but believe me, you car will be faster (it's incredible how you can launch hard with this thing). You just have to get accustomed to the stiffer pedal. I have a stock clutch in my Sentra SE 2000 and I miss my ACT!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

As for the spiral max comment who guarantee a product with a 100% money back warranty if it's so bad http://forums.freshalloy.com/forum/images/icons/confused.gif ?

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Simple, if I remember correctly, you need a proof that you didn't gain power to get your money back. Who will pay to get his car dynoed just to prove this low-tech gizmo doesn't work?

I think it's SCC that tested the thing and ended with a 1hp loss!

Plus it basically ADD restriction to your intake path. People buy expensive mandrel bent intake tubing with funnel rams to reduce restriction and turbulence, and now this company sells a gizmo to ADD turbulence and pretends it gives more power...

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Ok, ok wanna see the resullt's go ahead spiralmax.com (http://spiralmax.com) or go spiralmax.com (http://www.spiralmax.com/spiral1.htm) http://forums.freshalloy.com/forum/images/icons/tongue.gif

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Hey, hondutoyotakiller, do you have it in your car??? Because if you do, Ill believe you. But, 0-35 increase in HP can and will mean 0 with the spiral max, trust me. Buy it and see fot yourself

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Spiralmax does suck... doesn't do anything to increase horsepower SCC did do a piece on the spiralmax and I know it was a hot topic on the SE-R mailing list once too. And why go to to superchips when you got JWT?

Mel

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Hey hey now....no SpiralMax arguements necessary or any other "AS SEEN ON TV" product. I just wanted to see where all the GA16DE owners are and what other mods are available as I am almost tapped out on the bolt-ons. (Hotshot header [on order], RACTIVE intake, Naxos Muffler 2.25" exhaust, Unorthodox UD pulley) Any other suggestions for power? The clutch is definitely on the horizon and pretty common. Anything new that I'm not aware of? Any suggestions are welcome...(uh, except turbo or NOS)

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Except turbo ot NOS??? Then you're as fried as I am. We cant get more out or our vehicles without turbo or nos. Its just the sad truth. Anyway, advance your ignition timing and your throttle position. That should give you a few ponies.

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I'm not go to discuss with you guys all the day ok http://forums.freshalloy.com/forum/images/icons/rolleyes.gif but for direction in some power for the Sentra http://forums.freshalloy.com/forum/images/icons/grin.gif
1. www.venom-perfomance.com (http://www.venom-perfomance.com)
2. www.clutchmaster.com (http://www.clutchmaster.com)
3. www.optauto.com (http://www.optauto.com)
4. www.zex.com (http://www.zex.com)
5. www.ground-control (http://www.ground-control)
6. www.nopi.com (http://www.nopi.com)
7. www.mmr.com (http://www.mmr.com)
want some more's? http://forums.freshalloy.com/forum/images/icons/grin.gif
8. www.jimwolftechnology.com (http://www.jimwolftechnology.com)
9. www.stillen.com (http://www.stillen.com)
Nice site's uuuuuh! http://forums.freshalloy.com/forum/images/icons/rolleyes.gif .
10. www.avancedclutch.com (http://www.avancedclutch.com)

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You forgot:
http://www.placeracing.com/ (CAI for the GA16DE) http://www.advancedclutch.com/ (ACT clutch) http://www.weapon-r.com/ (intake) http://www.unorthodoxracing.com/ (pulleys) http://www.hotshot.com/ (header and soon a turbo kit for the GA16DE!!!) http://www.nis-knacks.com http://www.importpartsplus.com/ http://homepages.go.com/~reel2real/dgracing1.html
and of course: http://www.sentra.net http://forums.freshalloy.com/forum/images/icons/smile.gif

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial[/img]quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by DropD:
You forgot:
http://www.placeracing.com/ (CAI for the GA16DE) http://www.advancedclutch.com/ (ACT clutch) http://www.weapon-r.com/ (intake) http://www.unorthodoxracing.com/ (pulleys) http://www.hotshot.com/ (header and soon a turbo kit for the GA16DE!!!) http://www.nis-knacks.com http://www.importpartsplus.com/ http://homepages.go.com/~reel2real/dgracing1.html
and of course: http://www.sentra.net http://forums.freshalloy.com/forum/images/icons/smile.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I think I was the only one here trying to help ,thanks for you help DropD http://forums.freshalloy.com/forum/images/icons/wink.gif

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Thanks

BTW, H-T Killa!, do you drive a Sentra too? If so, SR20DE or GA16DE?

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I'll refer to a post by Mike Kojima on the Sentra Mailing List:
"Oh man, the fuel pressure riser is a waste of money on a Nissan. Nissans
have a MAF driven ecu system and can compensate for minor hop up's like
cams, headers, air intakes, headwork, etc.
A fuel pressure riser works much better on Hondas and other speed density
type systems that cannot compensate well for increases in air flow.
In fact most Nissans run on the rich side as is stock."

To gather information, you can do like I did, search through the Sentra Mailing List archive at http://www.sentra.net/sml/archives/search.shtml

On the GA16DE, the preferred mods are usually: CAI, Hotshot header, custom exhaust (2" don't go bigger), and Unorthodox Racing pulleys.

You can access 2 years of arguing about these points at the aforementionned address.

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Has anyone ever heard of this? A fuel pressure riser? Does it work for our cars? (This is my 1st time trying to post a pic...I hope it works!)
http://akafa1c.nissanpower.com/images/ad.jpg

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I think Steve Millen use in in their cars I don't know to much about this thing but I think it works ask or e-mail Stillen, the web site is www.stillen.com (http://www.stillen.com) .

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AKAFA1C
Import Tuner tested in a Civic gimme your e-mail to give you the conclusion about what the say http://forums.freshalloy.com/forum/images/icons/wink.gif about this thing......... http://forums.freshalloy.com/forum/images/icons/grin.gif http://forums.freshalloy.com/forum/images/icons/grin.gif http://forums.freshalloy.com/forum/images/icons/grin.gif http://forums.freshalloy.com/forum/images/icons/grin.gif

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You can reach me at cebolleroe@hotmail.com

Any input is worth listening to although I do recall a thread way back when regarding fuel pressure risers and how they are ineffective in a Nissan. This was ages ago though and I didn't even know what an intake was back then. (Maybe 4 mos ago? heh heh...learned a bit since then.) I only meant to make sure I had all of the bases covered. I guess once the header comes in I'm pretty much done with bolt-ons. This is when the other decisions come into play...anyways, thanks for the input. I guess if anyone else can come up with another aftermarket add-on please let me know. Later....

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HT-Killer, the problem is that you can't judge what effect it will have on a Sentra by looking at what it does on a Civic, the quote from Mike Kojima explains that

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HT-Killer, the problem is that you can't judge what effect it will have on a Sentra by looking at what it does on a Civic, the quote from Mike Kojima explains that<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ok,ok let's see what's stillen says about it www.stillen.com (http://www.stillen.com) . http://forums.freshalloy.com/forum/images/icons/wink.gif

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Well I'm not dogging on Stillen or anything but I remember a few years back there was some controversy about how much hp their products actually produced on the SR20's. Also I trust Mike Kojima's testing because he has to be one of the best SR20 tech heads out there with all the turbo research and turbo applications that he has done. If I remember correctly he did Searl/Ryan's car
and I know that he's helped do troubleshooting on Mike Jez's DET as well as
Jay Hassinger's F-max and I'm pretty sure a bunch of other turbo SR20's. He knows Nissan engines well and he's not out to make gobs of money off of those of us that don't really know cars as well as himself unlike some big companies. So yeah I trust Mike Kojima's statement on the fuel pressure riser over Stillen regardless of what the site may say. I hope I didn't sound harsh.

Mel

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as i jokeingly say the stillen 45 hp pullies. yea stillen is almost as bad as Jun is with their "dyno proven" stuff. I dont belive anything that was tested in house. put it on a car and let the public test it. like the stillen POP thats 15hp yea right. or my friend that keeps telling me that the Jun cams he wants will give him a dyno proven extra 45 hp. The fuel pressure risers just equilize out the pressure. if you want more pressure get the 300zx fuel pump and the 300 or what ever it is injectors. no need for that extra thing in the fuel line. you will get PLENTY of fuel for even 20psi like Ryan B is running at times.

well dont belive Kojima see where that gets ya. Im all about trying new stuff or doing it cheap but some things you just have to listen to the elders. there isnt a fast turbo that he hasnt had some input on. Ive met the dude and hes very cool and VERY knowledgable. I dont know anyone that can tune a car any better, that doesnt get paid for just doing that.

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Thanks guys....I was sort of polling the audience to see the extent of GA16DE tuning and it's possibilities. I've followed along faithfully on sentra.net and found a wealth of information there. Overall, I am very satisfied with how my car is performing. I think the last things I would love to accomplish and to get a reality check is to drive a stock GA16DE powered car to get a true feel and comparison, race a stock GA16DE, and dyno my car with all of the basic bolt-ons applied. It's been a while now since I first started adding/replacing parts to my car. The on-going need for speed typically makes one ignorant of the newest mods applied. Maybe I should drive some slow car for a while and then hop into my Sentra...hmmm

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Something to add: Mike Kojima is also working on a project GA16DE with SCC, he worked with Hotshot to develop a turbo kit for the GA16.

Stillen claims there rebadged Dynomax Super Turbo muffler gives a 15hp gain on the GA16! Yeah right! How about speed holes? hahaha

Forgot to add: I used to remove my intake on my GA16 when I didn't feel the difference anymore, then drive for 2-3 weeks this way, then when I put it back, it was as much fun as the first time I put it http://forums.freshalloy.com/forum/images/icons/smile.gif

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I don't know why or how I missed this topic.

1995 200 SX SE 5 speed

Has anyone been following this!?
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Turbo GA16DE (http://www.nissanperformancemag.com/june02/boosting.php)

I am so excited I could sh*t my trousers. Read what they say about GA vs SR turbocharging!!

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Yeah!!! Finally a Turbo for us GA people (though the majority of the board is QR/SR/QG...still! Mike Young did an awesome job with project 200sx...he was gonna come and show it off at the meet, but it ends up hes out of town that weekend images/icons/frown.gif

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i cant wait to see the dyno results of the HotShot Turbo on the GA16DE .... they are using a T28 ... so hopefully it does well ...

if it can get as powerful as an SR20DET or nearly as much .. and not cost as much for the whole thing then its definately worth it .. especially for those of us that have really low mileage on our GA16DE motors ... but if its not cheap might as well just get an SR

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Well, i doubt it will be as good as SR. Its a T-28 runing at 6 psi...when they offer a t3/t4 on there sr20 package i think. Plus the GA poor head would flow less. Yes its a iron block but i don think its capable. I have a 95 200sx se too =). But im gonna do a SR16VE...all motor baby =).

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I'm not sure if you read the article in NPM, but they feel that the GA16DE could have more tuning potential than an SR. We will see though. I have faith in my little GA16DE. images/icons/grin.gif

-Sam

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Wow, great news on the turbo GA16DE.

I was about to get rid of my '95 GXE for a car with a better base, but I love it too much to get rid of it.
Now I have reason to keep it as a project car.

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Hey, Anyone here run there GA16DE on the track? If so please post times, id like to compare....thanx!!!

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PErsonally If that Hotshot Turbo Kit doesnt prove worthy enough .. I was thinking of goin SR20VET with the 6spd Tiptronic .... a little custome work here and there but i think it would be worth it

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Originally posted by Nismo200SX:
PErsonally If that Hotshot Turbo Kit doesnt prove worthy enough .. I was thinking of goin SR20VET with the 6spd Tiptronic .... a little custome work here and there but i think it would be worth it<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial[/img]I think it would be easier for u to get a sr20ve and the tiptronic, then turbo it because A) VET is rare and B) VET doesnt have VVL on exhaust side....