Help I nedd info on 240sx motors

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I have heard a lot on sr20det black top red top ...

But I would like to know about what is the stock motor that comes with the 240 95 and 97 it's code it's hp torque and your comment thanks to all you out there who help me in my chose of the best 240 for me

[Kin_D]

the 1995-1998 s14 Silva as per SCC:

217 hp@ 6000rpm
203 lb-ft@4800rpm
Garret T28 ball bearing 0.64A/R Exhaust, 0.60 A/R T04B Compressor
Low-port head, VTC variable intake, cam timing 370cc injectors

Black Valve Cover with a hump that peaks at cylinder No.3

1994-1998 S13 180sx

202 hp@ 6000rpm
203 lb-ft@4000rpm
Garret T25 ball bearing 0.64A/R Exhaust, 0.80 A/R Compressor
High-port head, 370cc injectors

Black Valve Cover with flat top

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wow thats technical answer thanks

[96S14]

I think he was asking for the power figures of the stock 240, 1995, and 1997:

Your stock 240 has no turbo, but is 4 cylinder, 2.4 liters displacement, 16 valve, DOHC.

Its engine code is KA24DE

HP = 155 hp at about 5500 rpm (I think)
Torque = 160 ft-lb. @ 4400 rpm (I think)

I'm unsure that my rpm values are right, but they are close I'm sure. the actual torque and hp amounts are correct.

There were no power output differences between 1995 and 1997.

Hope that helps, and hope that's what you were in fact asking for. Wouldn't want you running around braggin that you've got 217 hp, if you're driving a stock 240...that would set you up for losing a race or two.

Ryan.

[Kin_D]

Oops miss read, i was so stuck on being helpful for once images/icons/grin.gif
heh, well, those are stock output for sr20det's if it helps any images/icons/grin.gif

[WarpFlyght]

Originally posted by 96S14:
HP = 155 hp at about 5500 rpm (I think)
Torque = 160 ft-lb. @ 4400 rpm (I think)

I'm unsure that my rpm values are right, but they are close I'm sure. the actual torque and hp amounts are correct.<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial[/img]The RPM values are correct according to Nissan advertising, and apply to any 240sx from 1991 to 1998. Actual dyno results may vary. images/icons/wink.gif

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the 1995-1998 s14 Silva as per SCC:

217 hp@ 6000rpm
203 lb-ft@4800rpm
Garret T28 ball bearing 0.64A/R Exhaust, 0.60 A/R T04B Compressor
Low-port head, VTC variable intake, cam timing 370cc injectors

Black Valve Cover with a hump that peaks at cylinder No.3

1994-1998 S13 180sx

202 hp@ 6000rpm
203 lb-ft@4000rpm
Garret T25 ball bearing 0.64A/R Exhaust, 0.80 A/R Compressor
High-port head, 370cc injectors

Black Valve Cover with flat top
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S13 were 89-94 with red top and last year was black top
the 180sx is just called Sileighty... not S13, nor S14
and yes that did come with black cover flat top

[asad]

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S13 were 89-94 with red top and last year was black top


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No, the info posted previously was correct. 1991-1993 red, 1994-1998 black.

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the 180sx is just called Sileighty... not S13, nor S14

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Huh? What are you talking about. The 180sx is the 180sx.

Asad

[WingsNThangs]

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the 180sx is just called Sileighty... not S13, nor S14

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As Asad stated, 180sx is 180sx and uses the S13 chassis.
The Sileighty uses the S13 chassis as well. It is a S13 chassis with a Silvia front (fixed front) and a fastback rear. All Silvias 1988+ were coupes. S13, S14, etc are CHASSIS codes, not car models. Globally, 240sx, 200sx, 180sx, and Silvia are car models that use these chassis codes.

But as for stock 240sx (the closest thing to a Silvia or 180sx in North America), the only stock engines were KA24E (89-90) and KA24DE (91-98). They used S13 chassis (89-94) and S14 chassis (95-98).

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oh ok!
180sx is a 180sx!!!
so that must mean 1 is 1 !!!
well how bout 2 - 1 ? does that equal 1 too?

a Sileighty IS a 180sx but the majority of the market calls it Sileighty... you can call it 180sx if YOU want but from then on you'll start confusing people with the S13 with CA engine rather then the Sileighty body with the CA engine

Sileighty body has the S13 front lights and fastback rear
S13 is a notch back coupe... not a fastback




and then .... this...


S13 were 89-94 with red top and last year was black top
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No, the info posted previously was correct. 1991-1993 red, 1994-1998 black.

so my info isnt correct?
89-94 had red top and LAST YEAR WAS BLACK TOP... i think the last year i mentioned was 94 there yeh?
so..math again... 94 - 1 = 93 .... ah ha!
ok enough math lessons...
just thought it was a waist of time that you correct something thats already correct http://forums.freshalloy.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/tongue.gif

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thats why i suggested we use Chassis codes when identifying the car... and yes... you 2nd me on the fact that sileighty is a fastback with S13 front end.. thank you http://forums.freshalloy.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/smile.gif
when i say S14 you automatically think... KA24DE and SR20DET
if i said 200sx... you'd find yourself asking WHAT country before identifying the assigned engine

[White_240sx]

Am I the only one that is completely lost after reading the last two posts?

[Super13]

dont worry its ok to be wrong, its better if u can admit it though , i would think.
RPS13 = 180sx
PS13 = Silvia Q's Coupe
Sil80 = Sil80

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ite... 180sx which you would see on the back of one is short term called the Sileighty ... mix between the S13 Silvia and 80 defining the last 2 digits of its number title (which in turn is approx. 1800cc like the 240sx is approx. 2400cc)

its a fast back with S13 front lights (they are not the pop up lights)

the reason i suggest using the term Sileighty instead of 180sx is cuz some people refer to some S13's with the CA18DET engine as 180sx

thats why i also suggest we use chassis numbers instead of NE thing sx related because they mean completely different things around the world... especially the 200sx

[White_240sx]

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the reason i suggest using the term Sileighty instead of 180sx is cuz some people refer to some S13's with the CA18DET engine as 180sx

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Your logic greatly confuses me.

The 180sx is the fastback version of the S13 sold in Japan and Australia; it had the CA in 89-90, the red top SR in 91-93, black top in SR 94-98. It is NOT a Sileighty.

[Kookz]

Are you saying the Sil80 came from the factory? If so, not true.
89-90 Silvias and 180SX's came with the CA18DET, not a redtop SR.

Damn White, you beat me by 1 min because I edited my post!...Haha

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i dont remember saying the word 'factory' NE where in my post
and yes you're right.. thank you for correcting me... but all i started with was it would be easier to call it sileighty instead of 180sx.. which has turned into a grueling SAT section on JDM Nissan's... make a new thread if we're gonna change subjects again

[ThonG]

&lt;&lt;Garret T25 ball bearing 0.64A/R Exhaust, 0.80 A/R Compressor&gt;&gt;

I dont' actually believe the t25 from the s13 engines are ball bearing.. Could be wrong here but i dont think they are.

Also Sil80s were produced in the factory...just not a whole lot (500)

thon

[Mav1178]

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ite... 180sx which you would see on the back of one is short term called the Sileighty ... mix between the S13 Silvia and 80 defining the last 2 digits of its number title (which in turn is approx. 1800cc like the 240sx is approx. 2400cc)

its a fast back with S13 front lights (they are not the pop up lights)

the reason i suggest using the term Sileighty instead of 180sx is cuz some people refer to some S13's with the CA18DET engine as 180sx

thats why i also suggest we use chassis numbers instead of NE thing sx related because they mean completely different things around the world... especially the 200sx

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Well, your own logic is confusing.

180SX = any R(P)S13 from 1988-1998 in Japan. It was sold as the 200SX in Europe, and was not sold officially as a Nissan vehicle in any other country. So by your "logic", anything "SX-related" would NOT mean different things around the world. A 180SX in Australia is merely a Japan market 180SX exported to the land of Oz.

"180SX ... is short term called the Sileighty" Wow, you amaze me. 180SX was the FASTBACK version of the S13 chassis, introduced in 1988 with a CA18DE engine. The name carried over when the SR20DE was introduced in 1990. It is NOT the name for the Sileighty. The Sileighty was a name that was given to the car by owners who put a S13 Silvia front end of a 180SX body. We all know what a Sileighty is, but you don't b/c you think a Sileighty has a "180SX" name on the back of it.

"S13's with the CA18DET engine as 180sx". Again, wow. If you read what you wrote carefully, it would actually be correct... A 1989 180SX is a S13 chassis with a CA18DET engine. That is 100% correct... so why even refer to the car as a Sileighty when it isn't?

-alex

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then whats a Silvia with a CA18 engine?
or a 180sx?

[Mav1178]

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then whats a Silvia with a CA18 engine?
or a 180sx?

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S13 Silvia with CA18 or SR20: Silvia (S13 chassis)
180SX with CA18 engine or SR20 engine: 180SX.

It's as simple as that.

-alex

[WingsNThangs]

yeah, Silvia S13's first came from Nissan with CA18 engines. They later came with SR20 engines. Silvia S13, 14, and S15 use the SR20 engines.

180sx first came from Nissan with CA18 engines. They later came with SR20 engines. Even with the SR20 engine, the popular "180sx" name just stuck in Japan.

If you live in North America and own a 240sx, then this is JDM trivia.

[VERTiG0]

You, sir, need to be smacked upside the head.

89-93 Silvias are S13 chassis.
89-98 180SXs are S13 chassis.
From 89-90 they both had CA18DET engines. After that, they both had SR20DET engines.
A Sileighty is not a 180SX with an S13 front end - that makes no sense. S13 is the chassis, not a car type.
A Sileighty is a 180SX with a Silvia front end. There were 500 of these made by Nissan with the help of some Japanese tuning company; I forget the name.

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so either CA18 or SR20

whats a Sileighty refer to then?

[WingsNThangs]

http://www.geocities.com/domestic_killa/whitesileighty01.jpg

This is a Sileighty. Notice the front end as well as the fastback rear end. In Japan, the owner probably bought this as a 180sx, and then later changed the front end. It doesnt really matter whats under the hood because Sileighty is a term for a CHASSIS modification. To my knowledge, as alex stated, Nissan Motor Company did not produce Sileighties. In Japan, the engine in a Sileighty will most likely be SR20, CA18, or whatever came with the original 180sx.

[jOeHaCk98]

7HE DON,

You just confused the heck out of me... its pretty simple.

S13(in fastback form) 89-90 CA18DET
S13(in fastback form) 91-93 Red Top
S13(in fastback form) 94-98 Black Top (same HP as redtop)
S13(in coupe form)AKA Silvia 89-90 CA18DET
S13(in coupe form)AKA Silvia 91-93 Red Top

Sil80 is just a body modification.. nothing more, nothing less. Siliva front body panels on a s13 fastback. The engine has nothing to do with it.

hopefully this clears it.

Caution : This forums is hardcore, if you post something that isn't true you will get hell for it. Which is sorta good, so that there isnt so much misinfo spread. At our last meet there was a whole bunch of [censored] floating around that I got into arguements with some people. Mainly Zilvia board members.. The Zilvia board is not on the same level as FreshAlloy. If some of the big forum names apply, take there info as the truth because they are very dedicated people in the community and know A LOT!

some things i heard last meet, all by one person. "SR has a iron block so it is stronger than the KA" "SR aluminum block is lighter than the KA by a lot" "S14 are a lot (200lbs)heavier than the s13 fastback, so s14 suck at drifting."(on socal i read a 30 lbs difference in SE vs SE) His attitude didn't help any.

[_Nzo_]

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Are you saying the Sil80 came from the factory? If so, not true.


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Actually Nissan did produce a limited number of Sil80s in 1994 when they realized that they were popular enough to be profitable for production. Only 400 were made.

[WingsNThangs]

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Actually Nissan did produce a limited number of Sil80s in 1994 when they realized that they were popular enough to be profitable for production. Only 400 were made.

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Why would they only make 400 if it was popular and profitable?

[inthewind]

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[jOeHaCk98]

I don't think that is a fact. Some people say nissan did produce the Sil80, many say they didn't. Most of the board members from japan say they did not. I really do know, because I don't have any facts to base an answer on.

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so sil80 is the body
and 180sx is the engine CA18DET
I thought the sil80 was factory line for a while... it just seemed like it wasnt because a lot of people modified their fastback to have S13 eyes

[WingsNThangs]

180sx (RS13) used CA18DE and CA18DET. Only in Japan.

180sx (RPS13) used SR20DE and SR20DET. Only in Japan. Note: Although this model of 180sx uses a 2-liter engine, the popular "180sx" name stuck in Japan. This is the second time I have stated this in my posts on this thread.

To stay on topic with the title, 240sx hatchback (RMS13) used KA24E and KA24DE. Only in North America.

[Mav1178]

Actually...

R = fastback body
H = KA24E engine
M = KA24DE engine.

So 1989-1990 fastback is RHS13, 1991-1993 fastback is RMS13.

-alex