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noelsaw
03-22-2000, 07:59 PM
What do you think of what Nissan has done recently to help itself survive and better yet thrive? Can Nissan do it? Are they taking the right steps?

noelsaw
03-22-2000, 08:02 PM
March 23rd News:
Many auto analysts note that Carlos Goshn has a tough task ahead of him in reforming or reviving Nissan depending on your view. Apparently Japanese business daily, Nihon Keizai Shimbun, agrees in a analysis of the situation. The paper notes the recent reduction in Nissan's self-set sales goal and current stock price near at an all time low. The paper notes that certain analysts have predicted a backlash due to Nissan's supplier slashing and plant closures which may cause it's affiliates to cut back on purchase of Nissan stock shares and cars. The article ends with a note that after Goshn took the helm, he spoke to several hundred Nissan employees. The dialogue revealed political factions and a crippling indecisiveness within Nissan, which Ghosn and co-reformers are fixing by installing new executives, forming committees to streamline decisions, and consolidating overlapping operations.

A slew of new executive changes were announced effective April 1st at Nissan North America. The headliner being the appointment of James C. Morton, Jr. to senior vice president, administration and finance. He will oversee all Finance, Human Resources, Business Strategy, Corporate Communications, Information Systems and Audit for Nissan's North American operations. Morton will report to Norio Matsumura. As we had reported on March 19th, Matsumura will head Nissan's North American Management Committee. Matsumura also serves as executive vice president, overseas operations for Nissan Motor Co. Ltd.

Morton will join as a member of the North American Management Committee which will also include NNA senior vice presidents, the presidents of Nissan Canada and Nissan Mexicana, and on a quarterly meeting basis, Ghosn. Like Goshn, Morton is a Michelin alumni working for over 24 years in Michelin North America's Communications, Legal and Government Affairs departments.

In a move heralded by insiders, Nissan also announced the appointment of Katsumi Ishii to president of Nissan Motor Acceptance Corporation. Ishii has held various finance positions within Nissan NA, Nissan Motor Co. Ltd., and NMAC. According to our sources, Ishii is a disciplined executive who has managed to institute effective cost control and productivity within the departments he has been placed into.

Nissan also announced the appointment of several other executives into marketing positions designed to split marketing and sales into separate departments. This will allow the two departments to operate within Nissan's global brand management and marketing direction.

Max Ima
03-23-2000, 03:31 AM
A lot depends on how you define "revival." If it means get back to profitability, I think these steps will help get Nissan there. If it means global domination, I don't think Nissan will ever get there, no matter what steps they take. Between Ford, DC and Toyota, the world is pretty much sewn up. Nevertheless, Nissan can be a formidable player in certain marketes and categories. More importantly, they can turn profit and make money for shareholders without owning every single market or category.



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**DONOTDELETE**
03-23-2000, 05:32 AM
bring the damn Sylvia and Primera to America and they can sell some cars. The maxima is totally overpriced IMO and the new Sentra is a joke at $16,500.

slowpoke
03-23-2000, 08:05 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial[/img]quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Mick240sx:
bring the damn Sylvia and Primera to America and they can sell some cars. The maxima is totally overpriced IMO and the new Sentra is a joke at $16,500. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

The new Sentra is a joke at $16,500?? What do you mean? Compare it feature for feature to it's competition. It beat's it's competition in most every category. I know that numbers don't always *make* a car, but the new Sentra is light-years ahead of it's frumpy predescesor (sp).

**DONOTDELETE**
03-23-2000, 08:46 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial[/img]quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Mick240sx:
bring the damn Sylvia and Primera to America and they can sell some cars. The maxima is totally overpriced IMO and the new Sentra is a joke at $16,500. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I think what you're saying is action without consideration. Bringing the Silvia over now would reduce the anticipation of the new Z. Yes it could also be the otherside of the coin as positive as to reshed light on Nissan sportscar image.

The Primera is already here in the form of the G20. And it's priced around $25k.

The Maxima is overpriced? You can get a base GXE for under $21,000 which has a really good V-6, ABS, keyless entry, power windows and door locks, security system. I think it's almost a bargain.

As for the Sentra, I think the SE model is competitively priced compared to a loaded Focus or Echo.

2HD
03-23-2000, 11:37 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial[/img]quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Fairlady Z:
Remember, Auto, just like every other business, are unpredictable. You may be the king today and the worthless tomorrow. With Nissan's technology and engines, plus reputation for quality,sky is the limit. But I definitely don't think they wants to go head to head with Toyota again, it hasn't been that pleasant an experience.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

If Nissan continues to ignore the reputation of Toyota following and set there own image that tells people that they are a different (in a good way). Then they are sure to regain a big piece of the market. Because it seems that people now a days want a car that is unique from everyone elses , if Nissan can provide that they should do fine.

I really like the way nissan is giving all their cars the most horsepower in their class and at a reasonable price. What their also doing is giving there cars character which sets them apart from the rest of bunch.

Seems like a good plan indeed. http://forums.freshalloy.com/forum//images/icons/smile.gif

Hopefully ten years from now Nissan will still be around and one of the top five a least. http://forums.freshalloy.com/forum//images/icons/smile.gif

**DONOTDELETE**
03-23-2000, 01:35 PM
In ten years, DC will go bankrupt and Nissan will be one of the top three car companies in the world.

I hope that's the way it works http://forums.freshalloy.com/forum//images/icons/smile.gif

But Toyota and Honda are probably just gonna getting bigger too http://forums.freshalloy.com/forum//images/icons/grin.gif

**DONOTDELETE**
03-23-2000, 09:42 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial[/img]quote:</font><HR>A lot depends on how you define "revival." If it means get back to profitability, I think these steps will help get Nissan there. If it means global domination, I don't think Nissan will ever get there, no matter what steps they take. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Remember, Auto, just like every other business, are unpredictable. You may be the king today and the worthless tomorrow. With Nissan's technology and engines, plus reputation for quality,sky is the limit. But I definitely don't think they wants to go head to head with Toyota again, it hasn't been that pleasant an experience.

**DONOTDELETE**
03-24-2000, 10:09 AM
to thrive, Nissan will have to try to get non-car enthusiasts into nissan showrooms. the fullsize truck nissan is working on could do the trick considering the number one selling vehicle in the US is the Ford F series. Nissan's gonna have to hurry up considering the fact that Honda may have a fullsize truck available in 2 years -- they're sharing engines with GM


i'm pretty confident nissan can make a great fullsize truck considering the durability of all the past compact Nissan trucks http://forums.freshalloy.com/forum//images/icons/smile.gif

Max Ima
03-24-2000, 03:20 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial[/img]quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by nsuguy:
to thrive, Nissan will have to try to get non-car enthusiasts into nissan showrooms. the fullsize truck nissan is working on could do the trick considering the number one selling vehicle in the US is the Ford F series. Nissan's gonna have to hurry up considering the fact that Honda may have a fullsize truck available in 2 years -- they're sharing engines with GM
i'm pretty confident nissan can make a great fullsize truck considering the durability of all the past compact Nissan trucks http://forums.freshalloy.com/forum//images/icons/smile.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Your point about "getting non-car enthusiasts" into the showroom is downright scary. Scary in that I've always seen Nissan (and Datsun before it) as the car brand for those who knew a little more. Who appreciated a little more horsepower and road feel. If Nissan doesn't have that "enthusiast" slant, I'm not sure what makes them different or better than Toyota or even Mazda.

**DONOTDELETE**
03-24-2000, 05:36 PM
what's different about nissan is that they're in a ridiculous amount of debt. they need to make profit and make it fast to survive. if not, nissan may not be around too much longer. i'm not sure if the japanese government would bail them out, hope they would if necessary. nissan has already made new products that aren't very "enthusiastic."
like the xterra and sentra--neither stand out in sportiness or speed. trucks and SUV's can be considered cash cows that make sporty cars possible. sporty cars by themselves generally aren't profitable--consider the demise of the Z32 and 240sx. that's why i believe the fullsize truck could play a big role in reviving nissan's product line (truck owners aren't car enthusiasts, generally). consider toyota, they make so much money from all those 4Runners and Tacomas and other trucks from their massive truck lineup--which make the celica possible

toyota and mazda have also offered good products for the enthusiast. like the new celica and the miata. nissan has no competitors for them so maybe they're the ones with the "enthusiastic" edge

in short, nissan needs to broaden its product lineup to get a diverse group of people into their showrooms and buy their cars and trucks

**DONOTDELETE**
03-24-2000, 07:15 PM
I agree with nsuguy, Nissan needs to get the debt to a more manageble level. If Nissan really fails, like Rover, which I highly doubt, the Japanese government will probably bail them out using tax payer money. In fact, the only reason Renault still exist right now was because of the socialist French government. Remember Renault is still a 40% state owned company.

**DONOTDELETE**
04-21-2000, 11:45 AM
The changes Nissan is making and closing down plants to be more efficient will lead to the Maxima be produced somewhere else?

**DONOTDELETE**
04-21-2000, 02:22 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial[/img]quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by 99ESMAX:
The changes Nissan is making and closing down plants to be more efficient will lead to the Maxima be produced somewhere else?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I think originally Nissan had planned to move Maxima production to the US...but I think the Xterra became so popular that the capacity was used up at the Tenn. plant.

**DONOTDELETE**
04-21-2000, 03:44 PM
I think that instead of arguing that bringing over the Z and sylvia together would conflict, why not do what the American companies (and European) are doing with ten brands under one belt? Bring the entire Datsun brand back with a retro lineup (seeing how that seems to be the 'in' thing now) lets see...the Z, 510,810, pickup trucks with retro looks, then Nissan would have three brands, add Samsung and Renault...
Datsun would have their Z, NIssan the Syliva, and Infiniti the Skyline...if only NIssan had the guts to be different like VW and Chrsyler, maybe they would find their niche.

**DONOTDELETE**
04-21-2000, 03:48 PM
Actually what NIssan should do is design platforms that you could change out parts like the front clip, rear end, and interior with ease. Then come out with 50 different designs (just like Nokia phones) and sell cars that you could customize yourself. We all know that Nissan can beat out everybody in technology and quality, but lacks cars that attract people. This way, we wouldn't have to complain so much about this car not looking good and that truck looking out of place.

**DONOTDELETE**
04-21-2000, 06:13 PM
I kinda like the idea of reviving the Datsun brand, because it has strong heritage. But right now Nissan's two brand strategy-Nissan for middle class/Infiniti for upper class is working fine, sales are up big.

Renault and Samsung? The odds of people buying them are not very good http://forums.freshalloy.com/forum//images/icons/smile.gif

**DONOTDELETE**
04-22-2000, 03:54 PM
i agree. nissan's doing good with the two brand names it already has. they're coming out with a lot of cool new products and their advertising for them is great.

with all these new products coming out, nissan should start combining platforms (i'm sure they already have plans). like the fullsize truck can share a new platform with the Patrol. the altima and maxima can share--maybe nissan can even build their next minivan with the maxima's platform. the skyline can be combined with the XVL and the Z.

quality should always be the priority with cost-cutting next inline. (unlike mercedes, i hear they cut costs while sacrificing quality--ML class)

**DONOTDELETE**
04-22-2000, 06:30 PM
Zacarnut <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial[/img]quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by fengkc:
I think that instead of arguing that bringing over the Z and sylvia together would conflict, why not do what the American companies (and European) are doing with ten brands under one belt? Bring the entire Datsun brand back with a retro lineup (seeing how that seems to be the 'in' thing now) lets see...the Z, 510,810, pickup trucks with retro looks, then Nissan would have three brands, add Samsung and Renault...
Datsun would have their Z, NIssan the Syliva, and Infiniti the Skyline...if only NIssan had the guts to be different like VW and Chrsyler, maybe they would find their niche.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I would love to see Nissan with 3 nameplates here..problem is they couldnt afford to rename their new compact car (the Sentra)like they wanted to..so I think odds of a Datsun revival are pretty slim (we can always hope)

jeffreymp
04-24-2000, 07:45 AM
I'm not sure that a third nameplate is the answer. Arguably, the addition of the Infiniti nameplate might not have been the most wise move on Nissan's part. The brand is just barely gathering some momentum well over a decade after its inception. The addition of yet a third nameplate would be a challenging one in terms of establishing yet
another successful brand identity as well as in terms of utter cost.
What might be interesting is a lineup of niche-market offerings much in the vein of Nissan's Japanese-market "boutique cars" from the late 80's and early 90's (Figaro,
S-Cargo, Be-1), which were based on the economical and established March platform. Too, these cars explored quite successfully the retro styling and character so in vogue today. Moreover, they were quite popular and garnered some level of attention that would today be of great benefit. Might the Sentra platform be a modern-day platform donor for a mondern iteration?

djcunnin
05-09-2000, 08:06 PM
If Nissan really makes good on all their talk of the future than we are instore for some great cars and trucks. I truly hope that Nissan can make a resurrgance into the North American market and give us some exciting cars. I can't wait to see the new Z. Hopefully the big brass is baking the new direction and not just talking BS. We need more high quality, driver oriented Nissan cars. I look forward to the future. On the downside though, if they are looking to garner a larger portion of the market we could also see some bland styling to appease more of the masses...which is not what this Nissan fan wants.

**DONOTDELETE**
05-12-2000, 08:21 PM
Bland styling? Nissan's already got plenty of that! Just look at the new Sentra and Current Altima. I think they should fire the guy who pinned the lines of the current Altima and spank Jerry Hirshberg on the ass for making such a bland styling statement with the new Sentra. I also believe the 2k Maxima leaves a little bit to be desired in teh styling dept. The bulbous curvy look is dead and is going quick to the auto styling grave yard. Just look at the new and upcoming offerings from Kia, I'm sorry to say I think it's new car is much more tastefully pinned down than the current Sentra, which realies too heavily on flash to make a statement. Clean up the lines a little bit and you'd have something to talk about. Also needs more horsepower http://forums.freshalloy.com/forum//images/icons/grin.gif

**DONOTDELETE**
05-12-2000, 08:25 PM
And one more thing, ENGINES!! The Japanese market engines are packed with things such as variable valve trains and variable intakes and exhausts, all to improve horsepower without having to increase too much in displacement. Nissan has motors with such equipment in Japan, why they havent brought them stateside is beyond me. IT MAKES ME WANT TO SCREAM!!! Sure Nissans current 4 banger in the Sentra has a lot of power, makes good torque too, but compared to the motors of the Civic and Toyota it seems unrefined. Big reason why people buy hondas so much is because of their refined engines and tasteful style.

**DONOTDELETE**
05-18-2000, 10:32 PM
More debt! NO!!! http://geocities.com/r337m0nk3y/net/ukliam2.gif

at least nissan north america is doing well. as soon as the Japanese economy rebounds, everything should be gravy

**DONOTDELETE**
05-19-2000, 01:09 AM
Nissan motors unrefineds? Look again! No japanese makers have buit a better V-6 than the one in the Maxima... For a daily use, you neer torque, not HP. Just drive a Civic SI for a week then get into a Sentra SE; you will understand http://forums.freshalloy.com/forum/images/icons/smile.gif. The 2.0L four banger in the Sentra SE have a lot of TORQUE. That mean you don't have to rev your motor to the sky to get some rush and that's good to me. And, it seems, that's good for a lot of people too.

The redline limit is not the only one aspect to look at when you talk about refinement.

2HD
05-31-2000, 01:36 AM
I read that they're going to build the 2001 Frontier first in SA then likely build the Xterra after that.

noelsaw
05-31-2000, 05:01 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial[/img]quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by 2HD:
I read that they're going to build the 2001 Frontier first in SA then likely build the Xterra after that.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

That is correct...here's the full story from our news section...

As promised, we're bringing you more on Nissan and Renault's plans in South America. As expected, they are going to make a run for the Mercosur market (a trade zone similar to NAFTA which includes Argentina, Brazil, Paraguay, and Uruguay). Thanks to Renault's strength in the region, Nissan plans to sell a fair amount - 150,000 cars annually by 2010. The volume will come from five models including the US derived Frontier and Xterra. Three other models which are in development, will most likely be passenger cars and maybe another SUV based on the full or mid size vehicles in the works.

But this expansion won't come cheap. NML will invest $90 million up front and $300 Million by 2005. Nissan and Renault (as in Europe) will share the back office structure and dealers. Nissan will also share up to 90% of it's suppliers with Renault thus being able to leverage better deals. Combined, they expect to rack up an impressive 15% market share by 2010 with Nissan forecasting to hold a 4% share in a total market predicted to sell 3 million vehicles per year by 2010.

The expansion is expected to produce 300 direct jobs, at a new plant that will produce the Renault Master and Nissan Frontier, and 3000 jobs indirectly via new dealerships and management.

**DONOTDELETE**
06-12-2000, 05:42 PM
I'm tired of hearing people say the new sentra is ugly and to bland. Its leaps and bounds better than the sentra it replaces.

You have to remember who nissan's target market is, people who could care less about big spoilers,funny looking light set ups,alloy wheels or how fast the car is. The things they are worried about are reliabilty,gas mileage and price (why else would all those people be driving hyundai's)If you remember one of the complaint's people had for the 92-95 civic's was that they looked to sporty. Do you see alot of new cougar's,zx2's or focus's on the road? I don't. IF you want a sportier sentra just wait for the new se-r's, but in the mean time i'm sure all of the mommies and college students will be more than satisfied with their new "bland" sentra's.

GTR
06-12-2000, 06:35 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial[/img]quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by zbeast:
I'm tired of hearing people say the new sentra is ugly and to bland. Its leaps and bounds better than the sentra it replaces.

You have to remember who nissan's target market is, people who could care less about big spoilers,funny looking light set ups,alloy wheels or how fast the car is. The things they are worried about are reliabilty,gas mileage and price (why else would all those people be driving hyundai's)If you remember one of the complaint's people had for the 92-95 civic's was that they looked to sporty. Do you see alot of new cougar's,zx2's or focus's on the road? I don't. IF you want a sportier sentra just wait for the new se-r's, but in the mean time i'm sure all of the mommies and college students will be more than satisfied with their new "bland" sentra's. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


actually i prefer a car that doesnt look too extreme from the start. (warning: my rice boy rant) im a body kit, do-a-lotta body work kinda guy. i say the sentra would give me more to work with than a civic. its clean and looks very customizable to me. take out two doors!

Slack00
06-14-2000, 03:01 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial[/img]quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by zbeast:
I'm tired of hearing people say the new sentra is ugly and to bland. Its leaps and bounds better than the sentra it replaces.

You have to remember who nissan's target market is, people who could care less about big spoilers,funny looking light set ups,alloy wheels or how fast the car is. The things they are worried about are reliabilty,gas mileage and price (why else would all those people be driving hyundai's)If you remember one of the complaint's people had for the 92-95 civic's was that they looked to sporty. Do you see alot of new cougar's,zx2's or focus's on the road? I don't. IF you want a sportier sentra just wait for the new se-r's, but in the mean time i'm sure all of the mommies and college students will be more than satisfied with their new "bland" sentra's. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Its about time somebody said it!

I happen to like the sentra's looks, too. I think they are well placed. Does the advertising feature powerslides and crazy kids drinking Mountain Dew? No. They can save that for the SE-R. And yes, I hope it has two doos by then. The Sentra is moving upscale into the mini-family-hauler dept. That is why the styling is so conservative. Look at the Camry and Accord. Do they look all that exciting? But, no matter what part of the country you are from, these choke the streets. The thing i remember advertising about the Sentra touts the most is the fact that it doesn't feel like a compact.

Now, when that SE-R comes out...... hehe... http://forums.freshalloy.com/forum/images/icons/grin.gif

**DONOTDELETE**
06-15-2000, 11:56 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial[/img]quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by nsuguy:
i agree. nissan's doing good with the two brand names it already has. they're coming out with a lot of cool new products and their advertising for them is great.

with all these new products coming out, nissan should start combining platforms (i'm sure they already have plans). like the fullsize truck can share a new platform with the Patrol. the altima and maxima can share--maybe nissan can even build their next minivan with the maxima's platform. the skyline can be combined with the XVL and the Z.

quality should always be the priority with cost-cutting next inline. (unlike mercedes, i hear they cut costs while sacrificing quality--ML class)<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


I'm surprised that no one has mentioned Renault's line of automobiles. Renault's Sport Clio could be an answer to the sporty car image Nissan North America is lacking right now. I read that the Sport Clio base engine is ay 172-bhp, up from 150-bhp. This little hatchback can surely compete, if not blow away, honda's civic and ford's focus.

2HD
06-15-2000, 03:17 PM
You gotta be kidding. http://forums.freshalloy.com/forum/images/icons/rolleyes.gif

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial[/img]quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Ry2000AltimaGXE:

I'm surprised that no one has mentioned Renault's line of automobiles. Renault's Sport Clio could be an answer to the sporty car image Nissan North America is lacking right now. I read that the Sport Clio base engine is ay 172-bhp, up from 150-bhp. This little hatchback can surely compete, if not blow away, honda's civic and ford's focus. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

**DONOTDELETE**
06-20-2000, 05:12 PM
Nissan has enough of a brand line up, they don't need anyhelp from a French Company. As far as the revival plan goes, i think the job cuts and the YEN VS Dollar will have a strong effect on the short term profitablity of the company. As well the layoffs would have took a considerable amount of money, for senior workers, and execs. Hopefully Nissan will break even this year...

**DONOTDELETE**
06-21-2000, 05:00 AM
If there is a Yen vs Dollar problem than everybody is effected... not just Nissan.
I think Nissan has a good plan and they will be successful

2HD
06-21-2000, 06:47 AM
Everyone is effected but only some will be able to handle the pressure. Companies like Honda and Toyota can handle it because they are not in debt or a least don't have a large amount of debt, plus Toyota has over 25 billion in cash reserves, Honda has about half that amount. Other companies like Mazda and especially Mitsubishi will be in trouble also probably even more than Nissan.

Mitsubishi has a debt amount almost as much as Nissan but Mitsu is not as big. It is crucial to Nissan that they regain sales in Japan, right now Nissan is depending on the U.S. for revenue but how long will that last? They must have a world wide effort.

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial[/img]quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Pars:
If there is a Yen vs Dollar problem than everybody is effected... not just Nissan.
I think Nissan has a good plan and they will be successful<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

**DONOTDELETE**
06-23-2000, 09:45 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial[/img]quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Ry2000AltimaGXE:

I'm surprised that no one has mentioned Renault's line of automobiles. Renault's Sport Clio could be an answer to the sporty car image Nissan North America is lacking right now. I read that the Sport Clio base engine is ay 172-bhp, up from 150-bhp. This little hatchback can surely compete, if not blow away, honda's civic and ford's focus. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Sport Clio is an image car. And you don't want someone else used your image to promote himself, even if he is related to you http://forums.freshalloy.com/forum/images/icons/wink.gif

It is what I've understood from an interview with one of the Renault guys when asked similar question http://forums.freshalloy.com/forum/images/icons/wink.gif

**DONOTDELETE**
06-26-2000, 08:28 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial[/img]quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Poligraf:
Sport Clio is an image car. And you don't want someone else used your image to promote himself, even if he is related to you http://forums.freshalloy.com/forum/images/icons/wink.gif

It is what I've understood from an interview with one of the Renault guys when asked similar question http://forums.freshalloy.com/forum/images/icons/wink.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


Well Nissan N.A.'s image is pretty much boring. Almost everything in their lineup gets over looked. Something like the Sport Clio would makes some noise for Nissan. Not that many people talk about the new Sentra. I don't thing the new Sentra will be half as popular as the Civic, let alone it's sporty version, the Si.

**DONOTDELETE**
06-26-2000, 09:58 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial[/img]quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Ry2000AltimaGXE:

Well Nissan N.A.'s image is pretty much boring. Almost everything in their lineup gets over looked. Something like the Sport Clio would makes some noise for Nissan. Not that many people talk about the new Sentra. I don't thing the new Sentra will be half as popular as the Civic, let alone it's sporty version, the Si.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Still, Clio Sport is RENAULT. Just imagine GM buying Honda and selling Cadillac NSX http://forums.freshalloy.com/forum/images/icons/wink.gif Or Fiat (owner of Ferrari) deciding to suop up it's lineup by selling Modena as Fiat. You just don't rebadge the cars that belong to a brand.

Deadpool
06-27-2000, 05:44 AM
If only we can wait a bit more, Nissan will get SE-R for Sentra, SE-R for Maxima, Zcar and Infiniti will get its coupe. I think that'll take care of the image for Nissan
http://forums.freshalloy.com/forum/images/icons/grin.gif

Healthy dose of VQ

bretfraz
06-27-2000, 02:47 PM
No current Renault product can meet the ultra-strict US emissions and safety laws. They would have to spend millions on redesigning bodies, engines, safety systems, crash testing, etc, etc. And then what? How many Americans have a warm and fuzzy feeling about the name "Renault"? The Sport Clio? After all that redesigning it would cost at least $30,000. The Clio 1.6 Si is over $22,000US so an $8,000 price boost is reasonable. How many 25 year-old dudes have 30 large to kick down on some weird French car? Tack on some Nissan badges and sell it at their dealers? Don't even go there.

No, no, no, my friends. Forget allllll about seeing Renault-anything in the good ol' US of A for the near future. The folks who remarked that Nissan needs to get their financial house in order and develop cars for the great unwashed masses have the right ideas. Sport Clio's and Skyline's are way, way, way down the road.

Max Ima
06-28-2000, 04:40 PM
It seems like the image of Nissan is moving in the right direction. People love the Xterra. And as controversial as the maxima's styling is, it is cultivating an edgier, more performance, more techno-image than the accord, camry, avalons of the world. (based on barroom and water-cooler talk i've had.)

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07-15-2000, 12:40 PM
If Nissan bring the damn Silvia here in the U.S. can be a good decision because with this car they gain with the sales can let the company out much quickly of their problems ;use that money to make the Z even better and much cheaper too ,bringing the R34 here to U.S. much quickly with no so much problems and with Silvia here now when we needed they can be the leader's in sport car segment's ,follow me Silvia:247 HP,Good Design ,Excellent handling,Good torque,Agile in every way,Lightly,Nissan made and with base price tag of only 23,000$ the result is = The best sport carin it's class for it's money and the S2000 and Prelude Honduhkiller and CelicaKiller too,and with the Silvia sales the they can move quickly to made the new Z to live and if they bring a Z car that had :315Hp-350Hp,300-340 Lbs of torque ,Good design,GT class handling,Lightly but safely , and with a price tag 28,500$-33,800$ and all the good facts that a sport cars are supossed to haved ,the result is =The best revival to the Nissan sport car's .the definitely best in class sport car that can compete with every sport car "kill" the sales of Chevy Corvette,Camaro,BMW M3,the upcoming Integra,Mustang GT and Cobra,Mitsubishi 3000GT,Pontiac Trans Sam(Firebird)and definetely be the best,Talking about the R34 bring that God maded thing one that matches the 400R perfomance and Nissan can even compete and dominate with such supercars like Ferrari and with the upcoming R35 design they were overkilling all other supercars that are on the road.You see my point? http://forums.freshalloy.com/forum/images/icons/grin.gif

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07-15-2000, 01:10 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial[/img]quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by HonduhToyoKiller!:
If Nissan bring the damn Silvia here in the U.S. can be a good decision because with this car they gain with the sales can let the company out much quickly of their problems ;use that money to make the Z even better and much cheaper too ,bringing the R34 here to U.S. much quickly with no so much problems and with Silvia here now when we needed they can be the leader's in sport car segment's ,follow me Silvia:247 HP,Good Design ,Excellent handling,Good torque,Agile in every way,Lightly,Nissan made and with base price tag of only 23,000$ the result is = The best sport carin it's class for it's money and the S2000 and Prelude Honduhkiller and CelicaKiller too,and with the Silvia sales the they can move quickly to made the new Z to live and if they bring a Z car that had :315Hp-350Hp,300-340 Lbs of torque ,Good design,GT class handling,Lightly but safely , and with a price tag 28,500$-33,800$ and all the good facts that a sport cars are supossed to haved ,the result is =The best revival to the Nissan sport car's .the definitely best in class sport car that can compete with every sport car "kill" the sales of Chevy Corvette,Camaro,BMW M3,the upcoming Integra,Mustang GT and Cobra,Mitsubishi 3000GT,Pontiac Trans Sam(Firebird)and definetely be the best,Talking about the R34 bring that God maded thing one that matches the 400R perfomance and Nissan can even compete and dominate with such supercars like Ferrari and with the upcoming R35 design they were overkilling all other supercars that are on the road.You see my point? http://forums.freshalloy.com/forum/images/icons/grin.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
i think nissan needs more than an impressive sports car lineup to rid them of debt. and no matter how great the new Z is, it won't "kill" sales of the Corvette and definitely not the Ford Mustang (those cars have a loyal following who tend not to like imports -- especially since the Z will be 6 cyl and not V8).

in my opinion, cars like the upcoming altima and fullsize truck/suv will have a bigger impact on nissan's future than the Z, silvia, and GTR combined

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07-15-2000, 05:17 PM
I Agree with you Knife but with this agresive sport car lineup it won't be a bigger impact it would be a massivelectroshock impact for any car company! now you see my point http://forums.freshalloy.com/forum/images/icons/wink.gif

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07-22-2000, 05:07 AM
Another massivelectroshock impact they are gonna expand the Tennese plant! Gooda idea NISSAN!!!!! http://forums.freshalloy.com/forum/images/icons/grin.gif