HERE IT IS!!! FX35 & FX45 Option and Color List

[dfw_danny]

The list is just to long to put here so I built a blind webpage on our server so that you can see everything. The items that you see listed in the V6 Premium Package that are not listed in the V8 Premium Package are missing because they are standard on the V8. Here is the link to the page. If you have questions please feel free to email me at dmayer@grubbs.com

http://www.grubbsinfiniti.com/en_US/MiscPage_17.chtml

Remember your dealer will be ordering his first units starting on 11-6. Call them and get your orders in now.

Before you ask we don't have pricing yet.

[cosmoose]

thanks for the info. I have a few questions though.
Are the rearview monitor and tire pressure monitor same as the ones on Q45?
Voice recognition is not available?
and finally, can you describe what "beryllium" look like?

many thanks!

[dfw_danny]

To be perfectly honest I have no idea about the tore pressure monitor. Hopefully they will have tire tied to a position on the monitor. Unless voice recognition is standard (I doubt it) it is not available. We don not have a clue about the color either. We will have a color chart next week and once I get that I will pass it along.

As a side note. We have been in discussions with Infiniti today regarding the Technology Package. We have suggested that the Entertainment System be removed from that package and offered only as a stand alone option. We might see that change.

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Thanks DFW, great informatiion. I totaly agree that the entertainment system should be a stand alone option. I don't see anyone not having kids wanting it, or am I missing something?

[fatddyslam69]

actually voice recognition is standard on Q45's so maybe it is the same here. Man i hope so. wouldnt this be the only SUV out there with this option? even if its not standard? COME ON INFINTI. ADD THE VOICE RECOGNITION. NOT TO MENTION LED REAR TAIL LIGHTS AND SIDE MARKER LIGHTS ON THE SIDE MIRRORS! http://forums.freshalloy.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/wink.gif

[cosmoose]

I second the motion to make entertainment system stand alone option. And it would be nice to add voice recognition as an option. Perhaps only available to FX45 only?

thanks again for the info. keep up the good work!

[jberger]

Wow, thanks for the update!

Couple of things. If the tire sensors are like those used on the Q then they will not corralate with the tire's position. The system is just not that sophisticated today. These types of systems are being mandated by the gov (the explorer tire issues have made certain it will not be rolled back)

Given the option of a rear camera, Nav, etc sounds like they are using the visteon system like the Q, so I'd expect Voice Recog. to be a given with the Nav/Camera option.

I think the side marker/mirror combo is a given, it's already on the Q and M so I'd imagine that the family resemblance will be continued.

I agree with the idea of deleting the DVD monitor, I'd never ever see a use for it.

I certainly hope the roof rails are optional, and are available as a factory delete. I HATE roof racks.

Sure hope that that bose system has the audio cancelling feature like the Q.

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The MDX has voice recognition for 2003.

[dfw_danny]

Here is some updated information as of 4:30 pm cst 11-4-02. FX35 280 hp 260 lbs torque. FX45 310 hp 300 lbs torque. No rear view monitor, no voice recognition, Beryllium is a God awful Dark Brown color. The 2 tone interiors are actually 2 tone seats and the colors look good together.

As of now the Entertainment System is a part of the Technology Package but that may very well change.

[cosmoose]

this is disappointing. Infiniti is giving very few reasons to choose FX45 over FX35. For nearly 10K more, V8 and 30hp is the only difference between 45 and 35? Rearview monitor and voice recognition should be made available! What started out as a fantastic package is quickly becoming ordinary.
terribly disappointing.

FX45 website still list rearview camera as an option. I can only hope its still true.

cosmoose

[copperhead]

I agree 100 percent, and why only 260 ft lbs torque in the FX35? Why come the FX35 is not listed on the infiniti.com or nissannew.com sites?

[jerG35]

Where did the FX35 come from? I've been following the Murano which until lately was a stealth SUV ..... now the FX35? This all seems crazy!!!!

[mossballs]

Yes, I am very disappointed also in the FX45. I have been keeping tabs on it up til now. I thought for sure this would be the vehicle for me. 350 hsp/ the rear end reminded me of a jag. I was really looking for something sporty and all wheel drive. I am driving a Audi A6 turbo right now. It is very good in snow and little under powerd but the seats are not very comfie. We also had a lexus RX300 that I really liked but that too needed more power. I do like the looks of the FX but within a year there are going to be alot more vehicles like the FX with a ton more power.
Damn!

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The MDX has 250 lbs of torque......

[340HP]

I love the look of the FX. Better than any SUV on the road. All of the new SUVs look crappy, except for the VW, but the FX owns them all.

[mossballs]

Does anyone know for sure what the HSP will be on the 45?

[mossballs]

Why would they only give the FX 310 hsp when this is suppose to be sport oriented.You are talking almost the same hsp that the Z has but with tons of extra weigh. I am going to wait and see what they come up with for 0-60 and other performance. The onlt reason I can see that theu would only put 310 hsp in the car is that they might see how sales are going and in a few months have a 340hsp option,

[Jason B]

I'm anxious to see it in PERSON.

[jberger]

Mossy,

I doubt we would see any mid-year change, it would most likely be a next year model change. Any mid year changes whould be confusing and difficult to market effectively.

The real issue is why derate the unit at all?

AWD? Nissan has lots of experiance in high horsepower AWD applications. So I doubt it's a transmission or diff issue.

Unless they go with the CVT in the FX. CVT's have problems with high HP/Torque congurations so that could be an indicator of it's limits.

Engine? If it's indeed the same motor as the Q, then we know the motor is completely capable of producing 340HP, so that leaves exhaust or programming changes. Given their ability to produce high efficency exhaust systems (see the improvements in the new Z and the G35 sports/areo packages) I doubt they would take a 30HP hit just because of the exhaust constrictions.

So that would leave programming.
Customized for the AWD FX, which I would believe if I saw huge torque improvments for the FX, but they are not being discussed anywhere.

Which leads me to believe they just derated the motor via the ECU to not compete with the Q45 as a the flagship.

Sure ECU's can be re-programmed, but ODBII is a pain to work with and makes a quick aftermarket fix doubtful.

It may be better to go with the V-6 and just wait for someone to get a good handle on reprogramming that ECU. The code would be similar to the Z, G, Max, etc. So it's got much more aftermarket potential, which should bring it to market faster than an V-8 updates. And of course a supercharger package would probably be available for the V6 first.

[shaun]

I think the reason Infiniti only gave it 310 hp is because they are waiting for others to follow with 310-330 hp. That way for the next model year they can make it 340-350 hp. I think its stupid because all the competitors know what the car is capable of and they also probably know that if they match the hp, then Infiniti will increase hp to 340-350 the following year. Therefore the competitors will probably come out with suvs with 340+ hp from the start.

[2HD]

Did anybody even consider the Fuel Economy? The V8 is not that fuel efficient to begin with. Add AWD to an already heavy SUV that will probably cross the 4000 pound barrier and what do you get? Somewhere around 15/18 thats what. Just a thought though!

[mossballs]

If you want fuel economy, get the 35 but I I do agree that the 45 will top 4000lbs easy and with the excess weight, why not stick with a little more hsp. say..330-340.
Anyone have any photos of interior colors for the 45. What the heck is willow?

[mossballs]

If you want fuel economy, get the 35 but I I do agree that the 45 will top 4000lbs easy and with the excess weight, why not stick with a little more hsp. say..330-340.
Anyone have any photos of interior colors for the 45. What the heck is willow? <font color="black[/img] </font color> <font color="red[/img] </font color>

[jberger]

Hmmm, well I doubt that it's just fuel economy, not in this market, considering most SUV's with V-8's have awful mileage. The Q is 3800 lbs, and still gets 17/25 MPG.

But you may be on to something,
Perhaps it's for regular not premium fuel!

The 340HP/333 Torque on the Q is requires Premium Fuel, maybe they adjusted for regular gas (I'm not talking leaded here) due to the threat of higher gas prices.

Maybe market research pointed towards a better competitive edge if they didn't require premium.

Of course, it's all really irrelivant unless you drive 25K miles a year. If you drive 15K year and only got 17 MPG, the difference in Regular vs. Premium is less than $20 a month or $220 a year.

But people can see premium requirements are worry about fuel costs because they never stop to do the math.

I had this same debate with my sis a few months ago, who was going to buy another car, because the gas prices were killing her in the SUV. After some quick calculations, it would have cost her thousands to save less the $300 a year.
She's still driving the SUV. . .

[dfw_danny]

Let me add one other ingredient to this mix. The 340 HP engine is only in passenger cars with higher rear end ratios. We are now talking about putting that same engine into a SUV which will have lower ratios. The additional horsepower may not even be necessary.

[copperhead]

Come on dude, the FX35/45 is based on a car chassis. The G chassis right? With a M45\Q45 engine put in it. The transmission is not going to be CVT in the FX45, it will be the same transmission that is in the M45\Q45. A 5 speed auto.

Infiniti drop the ball, they should have put in 340HP like the in M45 and Q45. It is the same engine.

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You guys are so negative. Remember peak hp/torque figure quoted is not everything. The 340HP Q engine has a peak torque of 333 at 4000RPM. Maybe the FX will have its peak power at 2800RPM. More usable power. Maybe we are getting a different breed of ponies. Something our BMW owning members often remind us of. Just look at what they did to the VQ3.5 in the QX4 application vs. the G35/I35.

[dfw_danny]

Copperhead, the rear end ratio has nothing to do with the transmission.

[jberger]

Copperhead, I'm not sure which post you are referring to on the transmission,but here goes. . .

The Chassis is the FM, same as the 350 and the G.
The reason I mentioned the CVT is it is being used for the skyline in a AWD configuration, so it's possible.

Not highly probable, I've heard, because the extroid fluids don't perform well below -40 degrees so they don't wanna risk it in the North American Market (inc. Canada/Alaska).

I don't know of an application where the Jatco 5 Sp. has been matched to an AWD configuration, so it's reasonable to speculate on which one it will be. It could be an adaptation of the tranny used on the non cvt skylines. . .

I wonder which Tranny is in the Auto G35?

I agree, it's most likely that the tranny will be the one in the Q45. But given the lack of info from Infiniti (which is really contributing the overall frustrations in the discussions) it's still open to speculation.

Maybe they just derated the FX motor for stress requirements on the transmission? Who knows. . .

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I wonder which Tranny is in the Auto G35?

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Same tranny as the Q45, M45

[copperhead]

But did they not make the gear ratios higher in the 2003 Q45 and M45 for better acceleration?

Thre is no CVT in the FX45 right?

Maybe in the FX35, which still does not exist according to the infiniti web site.