TITAN

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I am very surprised to see Nissan produce a REAL full sized
truck. I have wondered why the Asians haven't gone into
this market before. Does anyone know anything about this 5.6 liter V-8. Sounds like this truck is going to give
Ford and General Motors a run for their money.

Shift_Keep on truckin

[squid]

That's what we're hoping for. If the thing will fit into our service bays for PDI that is! I have a Toyota dealer across the street and a Chevy dealer next door. I definately hope it's the next big thing! http://forums.freshalloy.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/crazy.gif http://forums.freshalloy.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/wink.gif

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I haven't seen any dimensions of the new Titan, all i know the bed will be 6.5', even though it looks a bit smaller.
Does anybody know any dimensions concerning the lenth width height?

-RM

[benroethig]

Try pickuptruck.com (http://www.pickuptruck.com)

or

Titan specs (http://www.nissanusa.com/vehicles/FutureModelSpecs/0,,24367,00.html)

[Nizzan]

Is this the best, bad @ss photo or what?

http://www.nissannews.com/multimedia/2003autoshows_nissan/800px/truck_wflames0369.jpg

[ewraven]

That is a cool picture.

[M_TYPE_X]

It's definitely BAAAAAAD.

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Could someone photoshop that thing to be towing the lochness monster? maybe godzilla. That would make it totally baaaaad

[TwinTurboZX]

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Could someone photoshop that thing to be towing the lochness monster? maybe godzilla. That would make it totally baaaaad

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LMAO, wouldn't that be a good ad campaign, hehe. http://forums.freshalloy.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif

[jph]

I like it! Godilla being tail dragged by the TITAN and
then, then, Godilla shoots fire from these huge nostrils
and everyone screams, Oh my gosh!, Oh my gosh!........

Good heh.

[M_TYPE_X]

Would it scare the GM/Ford/Chrysler weenies enough though?

http://forums.freshalloy.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif M Type X http://forums.freshalloy.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif &lt;= Says 'we need more impact'

[bto]

Check this out guys. Titan preview (http://www.thecarconnection.com/index.asp?article=5664)

Some snippets:

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The 300 hp is achieved without the use of variable valve timing; Dominique says with VVT the engine can “easily make 30 or 40 hp more,” and also notes that a supercharger will fit neatly in the V-8’s 90-degree valley.

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With the sole engine – a V-6 is in the discussion stage

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Soon after launch, Nissan says it will offer an off-road package with a lower-ratio Dana 44 axle, an electronic locking rear differential, Rancho shocks and bigger all-terrain tires.

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The shape, Nissan hopes, will be perceived as a modern, fresh break with pickup tradition. The “fourth way” Nissan has chosen cuts a leaner figure than the bulky American designs.

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Inside, Nissan plans a thorough range of standard and optional equipment, including power front seats with memory, heated front seats, flip-up rear seat cushions with grocery hooks.

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Nissan suggests the Titan will be priced as an exceptional value, though in King Cab V-8 configuration not less than $30,000.

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[FanaticZ]

glad they are thinking of more than one engine.

WHAT IS THIS BS??
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Before word of the Titan’s tow rating was made public, Ford had issued its 2004 F-150 rating of less than 9400 pounds. Later, Ford updated its numbers and now rates the ’04 F-150 at 9500 lb towing capacity.

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i can't see a reason why ford would originally underate a towing capacity, there would be no benefit. the only other case would be they are flat out lying.


that picture looks very familiar, like a monster truck i've seen that changes into a flame shooting robot, i'll try and find the pic.

[fatddyslam69]

u wouldnt be too sure that www.thecarconnecion.com (http://www.thecarconnecion.com) knows just exactly what it is talking about. I heard the F-150 had towing cap of 8300lbs.....guess we have to wait and see!

[hiwayman17]

The new Ford F150 looks like some really tough competition.

[M_TYPE_X]

&lt;/eye roll&gt;

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The '03 F-150 was @ 8300lb. The revised '04 is @ 9,500.

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u guys r talkin bout fords n at... wheres the dodge come in? that new 5.7 Hemi and the Cummins Turbo diesel r some bad butt engines (so r the 318 and 360's)!

Dad has a '97 1500 Dodge w/a 318.. i kno its got guts...hehehe but... i stil like my Nissan hehehe

[BadTouchGTR]

u wouldnt be too sure that www.thecarconnecion.com (http://www.thecarconnecion.com) knows just exactly what it is talking about. I heard the F-150 had towing cap of 8300lbs.....guess we have to wait and see!


The car connection is the sorriest bunch of idiots I've ever had the displeasure of dealing with I've has a few discussions with Marty, the editor. Actually to be totally honest they were pissing contests all of wich he ended up pissing on his shoes. They first quoted the Armada to have a 5.2 liter V8, then they had the audacity to say the base G35 came standard with a 6 spd. Then we got into a symantics argument over the ability to use "Debuted" as a transitive and intransitive verb....Long story short THE CAR CONNECTION IS A BUNCH OF IDIOTS...
Nissan Rules!

[FanaticZ]

i priced a titan out on nissanusa, that thing is expensive. even the xe, forget about getting under 25k. more like 30k if you want a couple options. that might push me back to looking at the ram, f-150 and silverado.

[HARDDRIVE]

i priced a titan out on nissanusa, that thing is expensive. even the xe, forget about getting under 25k. more like 30k if you want a couple options. that might push me back to looking at the ram, f-150 and silverado.




Time and time again....people like you show that they are easily swayed by a mere " insignificiant dollars!" Before you'd pay the money for the product that you so-call support...you quickly point out that you'd seek out the competitor! What "flaky crap you spew..." I'm sick of you so-called Nissan Enthusiast." Be dyed-in-the-wool faithful as a Nissan Enthusiast....Case and point! Ford (Pinto gas tank expoding and FIRESTONE tire expoding) has their "die-hard" loyalist against a "die-hard" domestic competitor. Do you get my drift!!!!! http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/rolleyes1.gif

You fakers and posers sicken me to no f**king end! I'm sorry to those who be sensitive to my language....but COME, ON!!!

I have the ultimate respect for those who post, so very little....because they reserve themselves from responding to any and every comment or opinion that someone has....rather responding to the, "most obsurd [censored]" that some idiot spouts-off that you just can't help but to respond to.

This "site" used to be "Top Notch"....what the hell happened....

[Ko_leos]

Its responses like that, that earned you your 1 star! http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/smile.gif
We still love what you bring to our forum though!!

As for the Titan, Nissan commented that since they only plan to produce between 100k - 150k units, they made a conscious effort to price the Titan in the higher end of the market. If it weeds out potential customers like cockaroach, Nissan is willing to make the sacrifice.
From the looks of the most recent launches, Nissan is going after the VW market as it prices its new vehicles higher than that of its competitors. Just look at the price of the Maxima and Murano. I wonder if they will continue this trend when they release low end vehicles such as the Sentra...

[FanaticZ]

price is everything in the car bizz, "insignificiant dollars!" has to be one of the dumbest things i've ever seen someone write on this board, maybe on some mclaren site it might have a home. although it perfectly fits the attitude of your typical nissan car saleman http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/rolleyes1.gif

the big 3 all offer nice trucks with options i want for less money, even toyota offers the tundra extended cab with the options i like for 22k. why should i pay 28k+ for a titan? just cause its a nissan? sorry, this isn't freshalloy, home of the blind nissan followers.

i'm sure nissan is pricing the truck that expensive because thats how expensive it is to build, not to weed out customers. you want an extended cab titan with the 'highest standard power', we'll you'll be paying more for it than a hemi ram quad cab with leather. they'll sell a low amount because they are new to a market dominated by domestics. thats why its important to have options, not everybody needs 370+lbs of torque to haul around some lumber or a snowmobile. a ~260hp v8 would be great.

i can't get any options on the xe without a ton of package ad ons and having it switch to the se. typical nissan, we'll see what happens with official prices.

[Ko_leos]

i'm sure nissan is pricing the truck that expensive because thats how expensive it is to build, not to weed out customers.



In case you didn't know, trucks have the highest profit margins in the industry next to luxury cars. Ford estimates the total cost to them as a manufacturer of one of F150s is something around $10,000. The highest end models sell for around $50,000. Hence, Nissan, with the industry's best manufacturing efficiency could surely have built and priced the Titan to your liking while still turning a profit. Your "i'm sure", shows you tend to use your assumptions to convince yourself. Admirable, but you should be careful it doesn't one day bite you really hard.


you want an extended cab titan with the 'highest standard power', we'll you'll be paying more for it than a hemi ram quad cab with leather. they'll sell a low amount because they are new to a market dominated by domestics. thats why its important to have options, not everybody needs 370+lbs of torque to haul around some lumber or a snowmobile. a ~260hp v8 would be great.




So you have different tastes to what Nissan is offering. Nissan believes 100-150k people will be willing to pay more for more HP/torque/towing capacity, and more standard and optional content. They could offer every configuration under the sun, but to maximize profits by lowering costs (e.g. developing one engine, and offering minimal option configurations), it looks like they weeded you out to me.

Its like complaining that VW doesn't offer a 16k midsize sedan like its competitors. Most people do not buy a car based on price alone. Otherwise, we would all be driving Kias and Hyundais.

[Ko_leos]

...even toyota offers the tundra extended cab with the options i like for 22k. why should i pay 28k+ for a titan? just cause its a nissan? sorry, this isn't freshalloy, home of the blind nissan followers.



I'm not going to be bothered to search up the other makes, but what Tundra are you talking about? A used one? From their website, the cheapest 4x2 Access Cab SR5 3.4L V6 5 speed Manual costs $21,365.00 MSRP. Thats for a stripper 190hp v6. Now your arguments are becoming plain lies.

[FanaticZ]

i'm sure nissan is pricing the truck that expensive because thats how expensive it is to build, not to weed out customers.



In case you didn't know, trucks have the highest profit margins in the industry next to luxury cars. Ford estimates the total cost to them as a manufacturer of one of F150s is something around $10,000. The highest end models sell for around $50,000. Hence, Nissan, with the industry's best manufacturing efficiency could surely have built and priced the Titan to your liking while still turning a profit. Your "i'm sure", shows you tend to use your assumptions to convince yourself. Admirable, but you should be careful it doesn't one day bite you really hard.




are you arguing with me just to argue or what? we're really nitpicking here. obviously nissan wants to make a profit, and yes suvs/trucks are more expensive than cars and yes i remember ford mentioning profits were around 15k for the excursion before it was canceled and gm having huge profits on the h2, i'll reword it for you-the titan is priced at the price it is because thats what trucks with that equipment level go for- the going rate so to speak, k? has nothing to do with nissan selecting customers,they priced it competively with other companys' msrp, only prob with doing that is other companies have incentives making it possible to get more for the money. so while i can get a cloth bench in a titan, i can get leather captains chairs from another company for the same price.

i think the harley davidson f-150 tops out in the 30's, the f-series line up consists of heavy duty trucks that are priced all the way up.






you want an extended cab titan with the 'highest standard power', we'll you'll be paying more for it than a hemi ram quad cab with leather. they'll sell a low amount because they are new to a market dominated by domestics. thats why its important to have options, not everybody needs 370+lbs of torque to haul around some lumber or a snowmobile. a ~260hp v8 would be great.





So you have different tastes to what Nissan is offering. Nissan believes 100-150k people will be willing to pay more for more HP/torque/towing capacity, and more standard and optional content. They could offer every configuration under the sun, but to maximize profits by lowering costs (e.g. developing one engine, and offering minimal option configurations), it looks like they weeded you out to me.




is this why you're replying? to show i was weeded out? read my first post, i wasn't complaining that nissan was doing their thing, only that i can get what i'm looking for in a 1/2 ton truck from the domestics or toyota for less money. then the neighborhood nissan salesman chimed in and felt that he was getting robbed of his commission or something and said i was badbadbad for not wanting to spend more for less. has nothing to do with tastes, i like what the titan offers.




Its like complaining that VW doesn't offer a 16k midsize sedan like its competitors. Most people do not buy a car based on price alone. Otherwise, we would all be driving Kias and Hyundais.



like i said i'm not ""complaining that vw doesn't have a 16k sedan, only saying that honda does have one and i might consider it afterall since vw isn't going to price their stuff as aggressively as i thought with all their 'taking on the big 3 talk' "" you know, kinda how the g35 is priced aggressively against the 3-series...


the tundra sr5 v8 access cab has incentives now also and is going under msrp to begin with, i highly doubt the titan will considering its brand new. maybe in a 1 1/2 years nissan will have the same, thats why i'll wait for official prices and hype to die down before deciding.

[SgtBeavis]

One thing I really will appreciate about the Titan is that it will FORCE the American truck builders to do better, especially with the interior. I wouldn't be surprised if Ford wasn't thinking of this when they were working on the new F-150. That thing has the absolutely best interior I've ever seen in a truck period and that includs the Titan which I would rate second best. Keep in mind this is before I've actually driven either vehicle. Dodge and Chevy are left in the dust with subpar interiors that use cheap plastics. Chevy at least has VERY comfortable seats IMO but that is it. The dash work is horrible. It looks like you could fit it into a 1985 Siverado and it would look right. Dodge does a much better job with their interior design but man, what awful plastics and seat cloth. Even the leather is terrible. It reminds me of Ricardo Monteban saying "RICH CORRINTHIAN LEATHER" from the Chrysler ads of the 70's/80's. You would think Herb from WKRP was driving it http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/grin.gif


Toyota's last two attempts at a full size truck have been "half hearted" to say the least. The stepside was just GOD AWFUL. It looks like is't gonna fart at any second. However, I think they might be getting serious since they've decided they need to start building their new truck in Texas. Nissan figured it out right from the begining by building it in Mississippi.

[Ko_leos]

Toyota's last two attempts at a full size truck have been "half hearted" to say the least. The stepside was just GOD AWFUL. It looks like is't gonna fart at any second. However, I think they might be getting serious since they've decided they need to start building their new truck in Texas. Nissan figured it out right from the begining by building it in Mississippi.



IGNORANCE!!! Before you go off blasting Toyota, go study US's automotive history and its political system, then come back, say your apologies, and thank Toyota for their efforts.

[Ko_leos]

I feel like a damn troll on this forum...

[HARDDRIVE]

price is everything in the car bizz, "insignificiant dollars!" has to be one of the dumbest things i've ever seen someone write on this board, maybe on some mclaren site it might have a home. although it perfectly fits the attitude of your typical nissan car saleman http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/rolleyes1.gif

the big 3 all offer nice trucks with options i want for less money, even toyota offers the tundra extended cab with the options i like for 22k. why should i pay 28k+ for a titan? just cause its a nissan? sorry, this isn't freshalloy, home of the blind nissan followers.

i'm sure nissan is pricing the truck that expensive because thats how expensive it is to build, not to weed out customers. you want an extended cab titan with the 'highest standard power', we'll you'll be paying more for it than a hemi ram quad cab with leather. they'll sell a low amount because they are new to a market dominated by domestics. thats why its important to have options, not everybody needs 370+lbs of torque to haul around some lumber or a snowmobile. a ~260hp v8 would be great.

i can't get any options on the xe without a ton of package ad ons and having it switch to the se. typical nissan, we'll see what happens with official prices.




Ooooo...the little man has spoken! Oooooooo I'm afraid http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/tear.gif

[HARDDRIVE]

Its responses like that, that earned you your 1 star! http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/smile.gif
We still love what you bring to our forum though!!

As for the Titan, Nissan commented that since they only plan to produce between 100k - 150k units, they made a conscious effort to price the Titan in the higher end of the market. If it weeds out potential customers like cockaroach, Nissan is willing to make the sacrifice.
From the looks of the most recent launches, Nissan is going after the VW market as it prices its new vehicles higher than that of its competitors. Just look at the price of the Maxima and Murano. I wonder if they will continue this trend when they release low end vehicles such as the Sentra...




You don't really think I'm here for the "Stars", do you???
Or , that I actually care about direct attacks on me....do you?! Come on, man....this is H A R D D R I V E !!!! http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[FanaticZ]

i agree, ford did a nice job on the interior, thats one of my biggest complaints with trucks/suvs. companies think that because they are 'offroad' vehicles they can just forget about the interior.

the new dodge still is lacking inside as well as gm. the old f-150 wasn't too bad, new ones even better. toyota has nice fit/materials inside but the design is low rent. the titan has a nice design, but sitting in it, the materials were average-the f-150 probably has the same problem but it was locked so i couldn't get in. f-150 and titan are definately leading the pack.

the titan is more like a heavy duty series 1/2 ton. i think they may have it like that due to the news of the 2004/5 frontier sharing the same chassis as the titan and a version of the endurance engine-probably be priced in the lower 20's to take on the base f-150s. should be a nice truck with that new engine and ruggedness of the titan chassis.

[TwinTurboZX]

Toyota's last two attempts at a full size truck have been "half hearted" to say the least. The stepside was just GOD AWFUL. It looks like is't gonna fart at any second. However, I think they might be getting serious since they've decided they need to start building their new truck in Texas. Nissan figured it out right from the begining by building it in Mississippi.



IGNORANCE!!! Before you go off blasting Toyota, go study US's automotive history and its political system, then come back, say your apologies, and thank Toyota for their efforts.



Thank toyota for what? For flooding the streets with stupid looking boring cars? BTW, the tundra is as pathetic as the their last attempt the T100. You gotta give them credit though they succeeded at making it as bland as everything else they make. http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

[Ko_leos]

my my, aren't we too lazy to read instructions now..

Step 1: go study US's automotive history and political system (and their relationship I might add)
Step 2: apologize and thank Toyota.

So before you question why you should thank Toyota, complete step 1 first. I hope for your sake, you are not like this in everything you do.. http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/rolleyes1.gif

hey don't knock the toyota its a nicer truck it just isnt meant to compete with the big boys

obviously the titan is... i just get the feeling that its gonna be a big ass hit, already initial reviews show praise for it, i dunno if it could dent the pickup market though, its gonna need more options and its WAY TOO EXPENSIVE the base is like 7 k more than the others...but maybe those prices are not final

the only thing i thing the new f-150 could possibly have on the titan is the interior- that interior belongs in a 50,000 dollar luxury suv

i'd say titan sells 100k first year then 200k in a couple years if the publicity is right

and nissna needs a small suv, these big ones are very important and can sell several hundred thousand a year but so can a small suv- the new outlander is doin amazing cause ppl have somethin new to buy besides a crv, rav4 or forester