Nissan Full Size SUV, Named..........

[**DONOTDELETE**]

The name of the FS SUV has been determined and will be announced soon.
I have heard two different versions.

One name is the Aero
the other name is Patrol.

Has anyone heard anything?

[CoCo_PuFf]

well you can scratch the aero name, cause it makes no sense...I'm hoping for patrol, or maybe even summit or Alterra

[M_TYPE_X]

Nissan has/had a SUV in Europe called the Patrol... which is just a Pathfinder, right? http://forums.freshalloy.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/confused.gif

[MAXTIMA]

WHATONEATH are you talking about?

[Supernintendo Chalmers]

The European Patrol is a completely different vehicle than the Pathfinder. The Patrol is a more bare bones SUV and is the UN's very favorite truck.

[Nizzan]

I heard that it will be called Summit. I like that name over the others. I don't recall where I saw/heard this, but it was from these forums.

[fatddyslam69]

i think that the new Full Size should stick with the Pathfinder name. The pathfinder has been around forever, and to keep that name, the car will not be surrounded by the "new car; it will have glitches" hype...any plus, the PATHY has been one of the original SUV's and shouldnt be gotten rid of

PATHFINDER vs. LANCRUISER/SEQUOIA
MURANO vs. HIGHLANDER
XTERRA vs. 4RUNNER
XTRAIL vs. RAV-4

That is how it should be... http://forums.freshalloy.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif

[jph]

I did hear a name today but asked not to reveal. The
name will incorporate some of what has been shared here but not entirely. The name will be announced in Chicago.
Makes me feel sort of special knowing something the rest of you veterans don't. http://forums.freshalloy.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif

[**DONOTDELETE**]

Well, it won't be Summit it definitely will not be Alterra
so you can quit hoping d s. Summit, what kind of s is that.
Alterra, you have got to be kidding. Did i get cha?

[Ko_leos]

Other options would be Pathmaster, Armada, Nevada, Acerta or Citadel

[M_TYPE_X]

"Nissan Nevada"... oh yeeeeeah. http://forums.freshalloy.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/tongue.gif

[2HD]

"PATHFINDER vs. LANCRUISER/SEQUOIA
MURANO vs. HIGHLANDER
XTERRA vs. 4RUNNER
XTRAIL vs. RAV-4

That is how it should be..."

Thats what I said! Great minds think a like? http://forums.freshalloy.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/laugh.gif

[ZSPDR94]

Sorry all, the final name is indeed Pathmaster.

[CoCo_PuFf]

errr?.......... http://forums.freshalloy.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/confused.gif ..............ok?

[**DONOTDELETE**]

I thought it was going to be the NISSAN "super terrific happy fun sport utility vehicle"

[TwinTurboZX]

As long as it has the word "path" in the name, I'll be happy. Pathmaster sounds tight. http://forums.freshalloy.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif

[fatddyslam69]

i will wait until i hear it from NISSAN, because i dont think it is PATHMASTER..... http://forums.freshalloy.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif

[jrbb]

reply to: Other options would be Pathmaster, Armada, Nevada, Acerta or Citadel_________________

I do believe we have a winner people. Ko_leos knows of where
he speaks. Pathmaster is too commercial, Armada is good,
Nevada too regional, Acerta too medicinal, Citadel too institutional. I like the sound of Armada. But my pick is:
PATHFINDER ARGOSY!

[FanaticZ]

pathfinder would be nice, since thats what its going to replace.

[CoCo_PuFf]

I believe now that it will be called "Pathmaster".. http://forums.freshalloy.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/shocked.gif .......... LOOK HERE!!! (http://www.auto-report.net) under "trademarks"...it's one of the latest trademarked names by Nissan , after to "Titan". http://forums.freshalloy.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/shocked.gif

[1994PathfinderSEBlack]

Is it true the new full size is replacing the Pathfinder? If so, when? Its been mentioned on this board that the Patfinder is going to be redone in the 2004 model year.

[yup]

Pathfinder will be redone. FS SUV is not a replacement for Pathfinder. Pathfinder and Maxima are the Nissan franchise.

Altima is rapidly gaining ground, however.

[fatddyslam69]

pathfinder is staying i know, but is the fullsize going to be called the pathfinder, or is the pathfinder going to be totally redone for 2004? What will this mean then?

MURANO vs HIGHLANDER
XTERRA vs RAV4
ALTERRA/SUMMIT/PATHMATER/NEVADA/ETC... vs SEQUOIA/LANDCRUISER
PATHFINDER vs 4RUNNER?

is that how it is going to work?

oh and, btw: i heard XTRAIL is coming over in 2004, for 2005!! A little late, but better late than never..... http://forums.freshalloy.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif

[GTRV35]

I'm beginning to hear that the Pathmaster and The Summit are two different things. The Pathmaster is the equivalent of an aviator, and the Summit is more like a navigator. I also heard the Alterra is a truck not an SUV. This is what I haerd. I could be wrong. I hope I am wrong.

[jrbb]

Pathfinder will reappear as a 3 row SUV, attractively priced and packaged. Murano will sit above Pathfinder.

[Not_Vin_Diesel]

Huh? So since the Pathmaster is supposed to be the equivalent of the Aviator and the Summit, does that make them both Infiniti's due to your comparison to Ford's luxury versions of the Explorer and Expedition? If they're Nissan's are you saying the Pathmaster would replace the Pathfinder? And lastly, are you saying the Alterra would replace the Frontier? I don't see any one of those possibilities being the case but I need some proof to tell me otherwise.

[Not_Vin_Diesel]

So if the Pathfinder is supposed to get 3 rows and still be priced below the Murano, I'm guessing it won't get an optional V8 like the 4Runner did? I don't see that happening either. Toyota is successfully selling Highlander's and 4Runner's with overlapping prices because of the difference in customer need not pricepoint.

[Not_Vin_Diesel]

If the Xtrail is coming, I only see the Pathfinder name staying on as the full size SUV, if at all. This would give them the Xtrail on the low end to combat the Rav4/CR-V/Escape, the Xterra to hopefully grow a little refinement and combat the 4Runner/TrailBlazer/Explorer, the Murano to combat the entire SUX (sport-utility crossover, couldn't resist the anagram) crowd, and the Pathfinder/master/Summit/Alterra to combat the Sequoia/Expedition/Tahoe crowd. If the Xterra doesn't grow up it could become a Jeep Wrangler type vehicle, where it keeps getting made and has no direct competition for it's use, power and price.

[fatddyslam69]

isnt that .......wait......that is, exactly what i said in my last posts.... http://forums.freshalloy.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif

[GTRV35]

So you think i'm full of it, do you? Well my friend, look at this picture and tell me you don't see to differently sized SUVs with an even smaller one in the middle. http://www.thecarconnection.com/images/gallery/6416_image.jpg

[M_TYPE_X]

Okay, now MTX is confused... but as long as the X-Trail comes over, Nissan will be okay.

[TwinTurboZX]

So they're gonna have...

X-terra
X-trail
Pathfindel
Murano
FS SUV Jr.
FS SUV Sr.

That's a hell of a SUV line-up. http://forums.freshalloy.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/cool.gif

[B14SR20DE]

except the one in the middle is actually the quest (http://www.thecarconnection.com/zoom-image.asp?/images/gallery/6415_image.jpg)

[M_TYPE_X]

Hey, I'm all for that lineup as long as the Silvia/240SX makes a comeback to market as well.

[**DONOTDELETE**]

GTRV35-----------

Are these pic supposed to be Nissan products? Look like Fords to me!

[fatddyslam69]

hey....that is exaclty what i posted couple months back...that there would be two sized full sizes.....but it is just an illusion dude. The one in the back is parked further away....it just has different rims. One in back is probly SL and one in front is probly SE..... http://forums.freshalloy.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif

[ZSPDR94]

The Pathmaster, yes that is the final name, is NOT replacing the Pathfinder, it will be positioned above it and is based on the Titan for those that have poor comprehension. The other full-szie SUV is for Infiniti, the QX56. The Pathfinder will be redesigned for MY2005, arriving later in 2004, and move to the Frontier truck platform and be built at Symrna with a new Xterra following for MY2006.

[Not_Vin_Diesel]

Actually I said the Pathfinder (if that's the large SUV) goes up against the Sequoia crowd if the X-Trail comes and the Xterra goes against the FourRunner, whereas you had the Xterra going against the Rav4, but I like you fatdaddy so I'd rather not quibble about it. Anyway you slice it, I like the Nissan line up better. http://forums.freshalloy.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif

[Not_Vin_Diesel]

Okay, its the final name according to . . . ? Not trying to say you're wrong but everybody seems to be spouting things off like it's common knowledge. I think everyone on here comprehends that the full-size SUV is based on the Titan so I'm not sure who that dig is directed at. Also, what info do you have that says the other SUV in the pic is the Infiniti? Finally, the Pathfinder is going to move to the Frontier platform, which is already the basis for the Xterra? And this makes sense because?

A lineup of ??????
possibly X-Trail
Xterra
Pathfinder (on Xterra platform)
Murano
Full-Size SUV

Then who is going to buy the Xterra?

[fatddyslam69]

haha....im not quibbling bro. go to the top of this forum. not the last two posts that i posted, but the one before that....hehe http://forums.freshalloy.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif

[Not_Vin_Diesel]

no doubt. I thought you had restructured your thinking but it turns out we agree. Whew, I agree with someone on here, what a relief . . . where's mogulover or omega, I need to argue . . . http://forums.freshalloy.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/smirk.gif

[kalikidtx]

Sorry to disappoint you but the name of the full size SUV i not Pathmaster, though I am sure everyone will be happy with the name they have chosen. Stay tuned you will hear about it in tye next 2 to 3 days, stay tuned, and they will also be releasing a sketch, which I think looks awesome, very aggressive.

[MAXTIMA]

I know you don't want to share the name, but a source of mine gave me a name today. Just tell me, does it start with a T?

[kalikidtx]

No, it does not start with a "T," I wish I could tell you more. It is an interesting name choice biut it grows on you.....

[Not_Vin_Diesel]

Okay, so, you're not going to tell us who you are. Fine. And, you're not going to tell us where the info comes from. Fine. But you're not going to tell us the info? And the basis of your post is what? Can we get a forum guideline on here about this or something. Give us one of the three. Do you work for Nissan? Do you have a source? Can you tell us the information? Answers to any one of the three would suffice. Otherwise, what's the point?

"Hey, you don't know me and I won't tell you who I am. I won't tell you where I got this information from, but I have information." What kind of post is that? Do we need to bring down the 'Cones of Silence' or something? Jeez . . .

[MAXTIMA]

Good! if it doesn't start with a T, then I know what it is!

[kalikidtx]

Ok here is what your want, Yes I work for Nissan, and the information comes from a potcard they gave us today with the name on it, a sketrch, and some general information about the name, the product, and the market share it is attempting to go for. And it says they will release this same information to the press at the end of this week. I apoligize if you do not find it helpful what I posted.....

[**DONOTDELETE**]

The word is Pathfinder/??, is this part right?

[Not_Vin_Diesel]

No, I'm not trying to jump you. You've only got a few posts on here so you just don't know how it is to be a Nissan nutball and be on here and have people spout about what this is going to be and what that is going to be and . . .

Whoa, VQFanatic you're losing it!!!

Your last post is totally helpful. I can run with that. The end of the week is the media days here in Chicago for the Chi-Tizzle Auto Show. Obviously I'm figuring on a Titan-looking stance since that's what it's based on. Friday is supposed to be opening day I think but it's also "Prove You're Not A Jerk Day," so I'll be tied up with dinner at the Grand Lux and Daredevil. I will be at the show on Saturday (and probably Sunday, too.)

[Not_Vin_Diesel]

By the way, without giving us the name (if we have to be left in suspense,) has anyone posted with the correct name on here so far?

[MAXTIMA]

No, apparently not!

[kalikidtx]

NO I havt not seen the correct name on here yet, I am impressed with NIssan that they have kep[t it a secret this long

[Not_Vin_Diesel]

See you say yes, but my man, kalikidtx says no. Whom to believe? The Nissan employee that values his job so much he won't reveal the name, or you? Hmmm . . .

[kalikidtx]

Hey the best I will tell ya is that it is supposed to be released Thursday, Feb 13th and is a 2 word name, maybe that helps

[fatddyslam69]

two word name? wierd. well i was thinking TAMARAK but that wont work.....neither will ALTERRA...unless it is ALL-TERRA, i dunno. The only other name i can think of/remember is VERSANT....which is not two letters......kalikidtx: even if we get it right, will u tell us if we are rite or wrong? http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/confused.gif

[**DONOTDELETE**]

I saw a artist drawing of the new nissan pathfinder armada at my nissan dealer today.

[MAXTIMA]

We have a winner! It is the Armada!

[bto]

Hey, it really does grow on you. "Nissan Armada." http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

I like it.

[kalikidtx]

Hahahaha I am glad someone else spilled the beans now I can talk about it. Yes the Pathfinder Armada, and the scetch looks awesome. The spy photo shows that is has a front end very similiar to the Titan but a cool curved roof line. I am pretty sure that they are releasing the name and sketch on Thursday

[**DONOTDELETE**]

So what u saying is there is going to be a Pathfinder, midsized SUV, and a fullsize Pathinder Armada(it has to be two words long).
why wouldnt they just name it Armada?
I hope they make it look at least a little different from a Titan.

-RM

[kalikidtx]

I really have no idea, but my only only guess is that maybe they will be discontinuing the pathfinder at the end of MY04 and wanna keeop the name alive to they named the full size as an way to move it up in size. i have not heard either way yet but i will check at work tomorrow and let you knowif i fiond anything out

[fatddyslam69]

I saw a artist drawing of the new nissan pathfinder armada at my nissan dealer today.



AHAHAHA.....yeah dude, thanks for spilling it. Kalikid was all hush hush and OH NO http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/shocked.gif and here comes midyear to the rescue. Will the name on the car be just ARMADA or PATHFINDER ARMADA? that is wierd.... http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/confused.gif... http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[GroovinGTR]

You can tell in the camo pic that something funky is going on with the roof. The top of the rear door seems to slope down and the cargo area looks flat on the top. It should look different to say the least, sure it will stand out.

[**DONOTDELETE**]

Pathfinder Armanda sounds like the fleet is in. Greenies will be all over the name as a callous disregard for fuel
economy at a time of great turmoil in the MidEast oil patch.

Nissan needs to begin touting this SUV as the one full sized SUV that gets the best gas mileage.

[kalikidtx]

WEll sorry I couldnt spill it for ya guys, I gave ya all I culd knowing that someone else somewhere would find out and we could discuss it. I am hearing now that the MY03 will be the last year of the Pathfinder as we know it, so I am guessing that the name will be Pathfinder Armada not just Armada. Have you guys heard the same thing?

[Not_Vin_Diesel]

From what I had understood, once Nissan settled on the Murano plan, the Pathfinder as a mid-sizer was done. We've got to remeber that this company is not Toyota yet. They cannot afford to deluge it's minimal customer base with too many products at a time. During the Volkswagen/Audi explosion of a few years ago, they were releasing a new product or variation every 6 months, and if you notice, continue on that path (no pun intended.) I would expect to see the Pathfinder return as a mid-sizer in a few years like I expect the return of the I35 (or M35 or whatever) as well.

In the meantime, I'm liking the Pathfinder Armada name. It's kind of like when the Blazer went to the TrailBlazer. Yeah, I know Chevy's stink, but you can't deny the TrailBlazer's impact compared to the old Blazer. As far as the two-tiered roofline, does it resemble the Xterra roofline at all? (symbolizing a new standard for Nissan's "hardcore" SUV's, kind of like the 'tooth'.)

[kalikidtx]

I agree, but you also have to remember that the Murano was originally as an INfiniti product until the go ahead on the FX series was approved, so if there was no Murano, there might have been a new pathfinder and a pathfinder armada, lol

[jrbb]

Hey, Hey, Hey check the post I put up 2-6-03 I spelled out
Armada for all of you - give the Jr. BadBoy some credit here.

I think Pathfinder is not going away. I think Pathfinder will reappear as a three row.

[Not_Vin_Diesel]

I see the Pathfinder returning around 2005 or so. They have to see how the market reacts to the Murano and the Armada (feels good to type that) first. If the sales continue to climb for Nissan and Infiniti (pretty much a lock) the Pathfinder will return to kick the 4Runner's butt.

[jrbb]

Poster: aka_VQFanatic

Hate to disagree with your assessment there VQ. The way to grow your customer base is to introduce products that consumers want to own.

You don't want to be cannibalizing your, as you put it, limited customer base.

Nissan wants to sell 1,000,000 units in the US you ain't gonna get there until you grow your base through retention and conquest.

Murano is no replacement for Pathfinder, period. http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/mad.gif

[TwinTurboZX]

Long live the Pathfinder!!!!! http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/cool.gif

[Not_Vin_Diesel]

"The way to grow your customer base is to introduce products that consumers want to own."

People don't want to own Muranos, Titans and Armadas? We've already determined this? I'm not downgrading the Pathfinder or saying that the Murano is a solid Pathfinder replacement (I know because I wrote my previous post.) What I'm saying is that when you're trying to make a company profitable you can't deluge the market with something in every segment right off the bat because there aren't enough customers familiar enough with you to take the risk. You have to make more money before you can spend more money bringing product to market.

By bringing the Murano and Armada first, Nissan can see how the market reacts to two new designs and nameplates before redelivering the Pathfinder. If one or both of them bomb, it's easier to spot and react than to have brought out all three and see three fail. It's conservative but successful. Plus Nissan can keep a rotation of new products if they go this route.

As I said, bringing the Pathfinder back as a 2005 would only drop it from the rotation for a year and whet people's appetite for it's re-release.

[GTRV35]

Hey Mr. K, that was exactly the same description I gave them a few weeks ago. (Wasn't sure of the name however.) They were too skeptical to believe me however. Thanks for proving me right. Welcome aboard.

[fatddyslam69]

BY THE WAY: ARMANDA is not the name.....it is PATHFINDER ARMADA guys....one more time anyone says ARMANDA, i will blow up....hehee.... http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[HARDDRIVE]

....throat clearing...."kalikidtx" is just leading you guys on....its actually being named the: Pathfinder Sojourney.

And there you have it...now I get to get repremanded, oh well... http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Not_Vin_Diesel]

....throat clearing...."kalikidtx" is just leading you guys on....its actually being named the: Pathfinder Sojourney.

And there you have it...now I get to get repremanded, oh well... http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/wink.gif



Yes you do . . . www.nissannews.com (http://www.nissannews.com) has the sketch of the Pathfinder Armada.

[kalikidtx]

Um Sojourney? NO, I think my statement is correct and verified by the news this morning, I only post on here to help and give you the info I know, if you dont like it I will stop posting

[Not_Vin_Diesel]

Um Sojourney? NO, I think my statement is correct and verified by the news this morning, I only post on here to help and give you the info I know, if you dont like it I will stop posting



I'm sold on kalikidtx . . .

[kalikidtx]

Hahaha thanks, I give you whatever I know....If you have any questions about any model Email me and I will find out what there is out there.....

[HARDDRIVE]

NO harm to you or your "rep" 'kalikidtx'...

I was just funning around abit at your expense with everyone. http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/frown.gif In fact, I validate your proclamation of it being called the ARMADA...my source at NNA Cali Distribution Ctr
says you are right! Oh, and the 2004 Pathfinder will have a 3rd row seating and increase slightly in size as well... http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/grin.gif