no wonder no one wants to make performance cars

[ThonG]

http://www.i-club.com/forums/showthread.php?s=8b580b8db8cebdf55b002eced7adec8c& threadid=9739&perpage=15&pagenumber=1

kid got what he deserved though. funny thread

thon

i apologize if this has been posted, i searched, didnt see it

[TroopaFanatic]

Good read. That kid sounds like he's in store for a huge mess of trouble, especially after signing the affadavit at the third dealership.

[OpenWheelRacing]

Wow, I feel sorry for the guy.

[M_TYPE_X]

I don't think it was a funny thread. I don't think anyone wins in this situation except for the lawyers and whatever automotive company they buy their cars from.

[6speeder]

You're a few days late on this one. Somebody already posted this thread in the off-topic section.

[limits_at_infiniti]

As I said before, he got what he deserved. Many Subi owners got thier warranties voided for other simple things, even AutoX's. Why should he go on a board (smart of him) and post all this info before he got anything fixed and expect everyone to be on his side. Espeicially when he more than likely knows that other have voided thier warranties for lower boost upgrades.

[FanaticZ]

that was lame, sure the guy wasn't all that bright to do what he did, but to have people on the board emailing out what he said was rediculous, bunch of sore losers.

[Kookz]

See the post in OT.

If someone was about to rip off your friend, would you let him know?

What's the difference between letting your friend know and letting the company know, it's the same action with different parties. We're on a Nissan board...if someone blew up their car because they were stupid, and it was causing you trouble with your warranty (it has with Subaru owners) would you tell them?

Does it merely have to be a selfish reason like that? How about being an honest person and preventing someone from getting ripped off?

[**DONOTDELETE**]

That's just sad, being rat out by people on car forums. http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[FanaticZ]

What he did to his car has nothing to do with other peoples warranties being voided. modifying a car or racing it scca reduces the reliability of the car and costs soa money, they aren't idiots, hence the reason many car companies don't honor warranties on modified cars. if anything the rat is only making things worse letting soa know that they are doing the right thing by dropping warranties.

sure it was an 'honest' thing to do, but it wasn't his business to get involved in, on the other hand the kid made it everyones business.

'Scent of a Woman'

Mr. Trask: "Mr. Sims, you are a cover-up artist and you are a liar."

Col. Frank Slade: "But not a snitch!"

[TroopaFanatic]

What he did to his car has nothing to do with other peoples warranties being voided.



Not voided, but makes the warranties useless to honest people who actually need legitimate warranty service. When the company becomes so skeptical and paranoid about false warranty claims, it's up to honest people to show the companies there are still good people out there.

And even the dealerships told the guy that they had already suspected something and reported it to SOA. The mechanics aren't idiots, and they wouldn't have acted solely on the e-mail anyway.

But, dishonesty is still dishonesty. This isn't elementary school, and being a snitch, especially when it involves this level of fraud, isn't a bad thing.

Personally, I'm glad he got ratted out and hope that SOA's probably gonna sue his ass for fraud.

[FanaticZ]

an honest person wouldn't be going in for warranty work on a modded car so i don't see how it would effect the honest owners. i personally wouldn't go into a dealer acting like two blown cylinders is normal wear and tear and its very unlikely he would have gotten warranty work done.

car companies should know by now that turbo cars have large aftermarket support, subaru should know this from the japan market, instead of looking for new ways to void warranties, they should do what dodge is doing with the mopar parts for the srt. offer a warranty on selected dealer installed performance parts, give customers a reason to get things done right. this snitch on i-club is as bad as the snitch bmw has put into the computer of the m3.

[Chip_Letzgus]

How [censored]' cool!!!!! I love Carter Subaru commercials.

[Kookz]

sure it was an 'honest' thing to do, but it wasn't his business to get involved in,

It isn't your business to stop someone when they're mugging an old woman either, or get the license plate of a hit and run driver. Sure, it's the honest thing to do, but can't you just MYOB?

[FanaticZ]

nice selective quote leaving off the end of the sentence. interesting how you like using two completely different subjects to try to prove a point. we're talking about lying to maintain a car warranty, not some lady getting raped on the corner of the street, or a serial killer on a killing spree, or a drunk driver killing someones wife as they crossed the center line.

if this statsman wanted to correct the situation he should have let the guy know what was going on, not ream him up the ass the first time he dropped the bar of soap. thats the point of joining a car club, having people around with more experience to help the newbies out, not to use that experience to screw each other over.

[Kookz]

No, I left off the end because it wasn't relevant. If it was, you would have no argument.

Did I say rape? Death? No. People getting screwed out of money? Yes. They are perfectly relevant examples.

If someone lies to swindle money out of someone else, you see it as wrong to let the swindlee know?

[FanaticZ]

you seem to think there was no alternative, i guess we have different views. i think being part of something, like a car club, you try and help other people to make the group stronger, you seem to think its every person for themself.

[Kookz]

So being part of the "club", you should care more about people that you don't know who abuse their car and try to steal from the company that creates the vehicle the club is based around...biting the hand that feeds you? All that does is hurt the community that the "car club" is a part of, when Subaru decides to no longer offer a turbocharged car.

[FanaticZ]

well people don't join the club to kiss soa's ass, its to share information and learn from what other people are doing. the whole mess could have been avoided with a straight foward responce to his original questions.


I don't know if any of thoose could have cause the damage, I am just really confuessed and upset! I have had all thoose mods for the last 6 months why now?

Also could someone let me know what the waranty deal is if you have aftermarket parts! Thakns Everyone!!!

[Kookz]

The kid realized that the warranty was void after the first place, and still went out of his way to try to trick another dealer. What are you hoping for?

[FanaticZ]

i'm not hoping for anything, kinda bored.

[Irie_eyes]

I checked out the site.
I think it is his fault for not having the knowledge.
As far as the warranty thing goes, I think it is his problem to deal with. I think he got really lucky. Most people aren't.
I think he was asking for advise to not blow his motor again, and some people replied.
But for ratting him out, that is more on the lines of personal confidentiality or forum ettiquete, since there is no written discalimer.
I think he asked for it for getting cocky afterwards.
But ratting him out would be the same as if I went to all the police departments across the country and show them all the street racing and road kills because I personally feel that its very dangerous and everyone should "learn their lesson"...but I don't.

[6speeder]

But for ratting him out, that is more on the lines of personal confidentiality or forum ettiquete, since there is no written discalimer.



Confidentiality can't even be mentioned when you post on the internet for the whole world to see. This is part of what made this kid such an idiot.

[TroopaFanatic]

an honest person wouldn't be going in for warranty work on a modded car so i don't see how it would effect the honest owners.



It's the reputation of honest owners. If you don't see how it would affect honest owners, then you've never had to take a car in for legitimate warranty work or had to file a hit-and-run insurance claim. They'll do everything to prove it was your fault and that you're somehow responsible.

As for being a snitch, fraud is still fraud. And as an honest car owner, I would hope people would mind other people's business. I would hope someone would notice a car break in or a hit-and-run. And in this case, thousands of dollars in fraud because some kid didn't know the first thing about turbocharging an engine.

Like the thread would go on, the second dealership already rejected service after noticing some telltale signs of mod abuse. And the kid made the huge mistake of signing that affadavit at the third dealership(might as well have been his death warrant, because he's about to get it). But how is it in any way alright to let someone defraud someone else just to not be a snitch?

It doesn't matter if it's a friend, a stranger, or even a large multinational corporation, if they're gonna get defrauded, then it's your duty as a concerned citizen to alert the officials. It's the moral and ethical thing to do.