Maxima Pricing

[jimd451]

Have been tryng to get a feel for what the dealers will offer as a discount on an 04 Maxima. Saw a post that said MSRP would be the going rate for a while. Just checked Carsdirect.com and built a SE model with a MSRP of $31,280 and they offered it for $29,792. Good to know so you have some leverage with the dealers!

[Not_Vin_Diesel]

Pretty much what carsdirect does is forward the offer to dealers it does business with and you'll end up dealing with one of them, so you can call it leverage against the dealers I suppose, but you're still getting a dealer's price.

Still no website that sells cars yet.

[tdc]

Was talking with an internet sales mgr at a local dealer -was telling me that 3% above invoice would do the trick.

won't really know until you actually go to make the deal.

[**DONOTDELETE**]

You know what they say, "money talks, bulls**t walks."

[sibin]

I ordered an '04 SE 6 speed two weeks ago. After a little arm twisting, I got invoice plus $300. The only problem is the delivery time on an "ordered" car is two months!!

[squid]

I ordered an '04 SE 6 speed two weeks ago. After a little arm twisting, I got invoice plus $300. The only problem is the delivery time on an "ordered" car is two months!!



You have nothing to b!$ch about! Just hang loose and wait for your new ride.

[HARDDRIVE]

I ordered an '04 SE 6 speed two weeks ago. After a little arm twisting, I got invoice plus $300. The only problem is the delivery time on an "ordered" car is two months!!



You should have paid, more. If the product isn't worth its' "asking price"...then why buy at all??? Oh, wait...this is a NISSAN, not a BMW or a M/B (sound of disgust) And your very kind cry about and can't understand why, Nissans won't hold their value...it is, because of the very mentality like yours (of only paying $300 over invoice) that gives other consumers at-large the 'percieved' notion that Nissans don't hold their value! http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/mad.gif

[sibin]

Let me get this straight. You think I should pay the "asking price" (I assume you mean MSRP) when I can get the car for about $2300 less??

[r32guy]

I hear you Sibin. I paid invoice +$500 on my '02SE the first week the 3.5 hit the showrooms, and I was pretty happy.
As for the previous comment, I'm not sure what 'Harddrive' is saying, exactly, but maybe a clearer grammer is in order...

[HARDDRIVE]

Let me get this straight. You think I should pay the "asking price" (I assume you mean MSRP) when I can get the car for about $2300 less??



I come from a class where, if you think its a "fair asking"(a pre-determined already "asking"), you pay it and go on and start enjoying it without any doubt that, what you paid was worth what it was priced at. If you didn't...you didn't buy it because it wasn't worth having at any price.

Don't take what I am saying the wrong way...my point is just this...I genuinely believe that the '04 Max is worth its M.S.R.P., compared to its competitors. A great part of supporting a product is buying and owning that product because the buyer views that product as, worth its price without the need to get it for less...even though fully knowing that you could get it for less.

Now-a-days...sadly its become "stupid", "uncool", "unimaginable", dare I say, "ridiculous" to pay a 'profit' (no matter how big or small) to a Dealer/Sales Rep...for being "called-out" by someone on these 'forums', as such! Most of the people here in this forum no absolutely nothing of the notion of, "the Dealerships within their townships paying HUGE amounts taxes that the gov't uses to stimulate the economy for other programs and institutions...(shaking my head in disgust)AND community programs and scholarships of which likes of some of you or your children, probably take full advantage of...knowingly and unknowingly.

So the next time you're ready to "get something, for nothing"..."Ask not what your country can do for you...but rather, what can you do for it." Get me now, son?!

[HARDDRIVE]

I hear you Sibin. I paid invoice +$500 on my '02SE the first week the 3.5 hit the showrooms, and I was pretty happy.
As for the previous comment, I'm not sure what 'Harddrive' is saying, exactly, but maybe a clearer grammer is in order...



rolled eyes.....

[kevhen]

A fool and his money are soon parted.

[r32guy]

I don't know anyone who pays MSRP on any vehicle. Therefore, one would assume that the dealers take this into consideration when haggling. If they don't want to sell to someone at minimal profit, then they shouldn't sell to someone at minimal profit. I personally don't see the squelched issue here.
Besides, if you think car dealers get taxed hard, imagine how nuclear power plants feel, or hospitals, or gas stations...

[squid]

I don't know anyone who pays MSRP on any vehicle.


Have you went shopping for a new Toyota Sienna lately?

[M_TYPE_X]

Odysseys commanded MSRP for a long time. Pilots still might.

[sibin]

Harddrive, I'm 60 yrs. old but you can still call me "son".
Rather than discuss scholarships, let's talk cars and their prices. The Max that I ordered has an MSRP of $30130. Dealer's invoice is $27412. When the dealer's holdback of $822 is added in, the dealer's total profit on my car would be $3540 if I paid MSRP !!!! I was unwilling to allow that kind of profit-taking at my expense and the dealer obviously agreed with my position since he ACCEPTED my offer of $300 over invoice. Even then, his profit is $300 plus the holdback or a total of $1122. Now that's a fair profit, don't you agree, dad??

[**DONOTDELETE**]

Harddrive,

Apparently you are totally confused. If you want to contribute to charity, give money directly to the charity. If you want to do business in this free, competitive economy, then follow the rules of "supply and demand".

Smart people get best price, save money, and promote competition among manufactures and dealers, and as a result we get better and better products and services in our society. Not to mention more money to give to the charity of your choice.

Overpaying not only damages individuals financially but also degrades the society by rewarding the unworthy businesses.

[HARDDRIVE]

Harddrive, I'm 60 yrs. old but you can still call me "son".
Rather than discuss scholarships, let's talk cars and their prices. The Max that I ordered has an MSRP of $30130. Dealer's invoice is $27412. When the dealer's holdback of $822 is added in, the dealer's total profit on my car would be $3540 if I paid MSRP !!!! I was unwilling to allow that kind of profit-taking at my expense and the dealer obviously agreed with my position since he ACCEPTED my offer of $300 over invoice. Even then, his profit is $300 plus the holdback or a total of $1122. Now that's a fair profit, don't you agree, dad??



Sorry "gramps", but I don't. Not on a $27,412.00 investment.
But, glad for ya if you are really 60yo and if you really bought a '04 MAX http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[HARDDRIVE]

Overpaying not only damages individuals financially but also degrades the society by rewarding the unworthy businesses.



You want to talk about 'overpaying'...go sit in a corner and think about this....if you're old enough to have ever given a woman that you love, a "diamond ring"-no matter how great of a deal you got, you overpaid; think of almost anything that costed over $10,000.00 and you more-than-likely 'overpaid'...(i.e. a Harley, plasma HDTV, medical bill) you get the picture.

My point was that, its not the "in" thing to always being paying as little as possible for everything that you can afford....those that can "overspend" (if I can use that term) or pay the asking price, always seem to be the happiest of people in my 8yrs of selling; by contrast, those who pay the absolute-least, without fail, always want their asses' kissed and want anything extra thrown in for free! And, they are never, ever satisfied 'cause it shows in the Nissan Customer Satisfaction Survey...even though they paid $300.00 over invoice($27.412) and you gave them great service. http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/frown.gif

[kevhen]

You sound like a dealer to me. Remind me not to buy any cars in Hawaii. The dealer doesn't have to sell the car if the buyer doesn't offer them enough. If some buyers want to pay MSRP that is their perogative.

[HARDDRIVE]

You sound like a dealer to me. Remind me not to buy any cars in Hawaii. The dealer doesn't have to sell the car if the buyer doesn't offer them enough. If some buyers want to pay MSRP that is their perogative.



You must be "slow"...I AM, a Nissan Sales Rep its no secret here. Don't just merely throw out insinuations, boy...you got somethin you wanna say about 'Dealers', then elaborate...elsewise, S.T.F.U!

Oh...and, Aloha http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[jng35]

Sold the wife's 2003 G35 and picked up a 2004 SE MAX for Invoice yesterday.

[M_TYPE_X]

What? Traded the G35 for a Max?! http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/confused.gif

[**DONOTDELETE**]

I bought an 04 SE Elite and paid sticker. I looked all over, tried to haggle and could not get it below. I know I overpaid, but I don't care. I wanted the car before anyone else had it and I got it. The problem was no one had the car I wanted. Obviously, if I waited a few more months, I could have gotten the car much cheaper. I own a business myself, sometimes my margins are thin and sometimes they are not.

I would never criticize anyone for negotiating themselves a good price. I don't really get the point of the posts above. If someone is willing to sell a product at a reduced margin and everyone is happy, then what is the big deal? It’s ridiculous to assume that the consumer is responsible for affecting the resale value of Nissan cars merely by negotiating themselves a good deal. I paid extra because I was willing to. The dealer should not sell the car if the deal is to thin. And who is the say the dealer is not entitled to a $3,000 dollar profit? Why not? Do you think the average Nissan dealer makes a ton of money each year? Remember, Nissan was almost bankrupt two years ago and sales were way down.

No, I do not own a dealership and I do not sell cars. But I do run a business and it amazes me how consumers feel that business owners are not entitled to make any money. Business owners are not there as a favor, but rather to provide a service. They have families, employee and tons of expenses.

So I am on both sides here. I never complain about a thin margin if I am willing to offer a client a good deal. Additionally, I am entitled to make a living. Ever hear the expression sometimes you give away butter and make money on milk? This applies to anyone running a business. You give great deal on certain items and make money on the other items. I guess there is no pleasing everyone.

On a different note, I love my new max. Check out the pics.

Max Pics (http://04blackmax.netfrims.com)

[HARDDRIVE]

I bought an 04 SE Elite and paid sticker. I looked all over, tried to haggle and could not get it below. I know I overpaid, but I didn’t care. I wanted the car before anyone else had it and I got it. The problem was no one had the car I wanted. Obviously, if I waited a few more months, I could have gotten the car much cheaper. I own a business myself, sometimes my margins are thin and sometimes they are not.

I would never criticize anyone for negotiating themselves a good price. I don't really get the point of the posts above. If someone is willing to sell a product at a reduced margin and everyone is happy, then what is the big deal? It’s ridiculous to assume that the consumer is responsible for affecting the resale value of Nissan cars merely by negotiating themselves a good deal. I paid extra because I was willing to. The dealer should not sell that car if the deal is to thin. And who is the say the dealer is not entitled to a $3,000 dollar profit? Why not? Do you think the average Nissan dealer makes a ton of money each year? Remember, Nissan was almost bankrupt two years ago and sales were way down.

No, I do not own a dealership and I do not sell cars. But I do run a business and it amazes me how consumers feel that business owners are not entitled to make any money. Business owners are not there as a favor, but rather to provide a service. They have families, employee and tons of expenses.

So I am on both sides here. I never complain about a thin margin if I am willing to offer a client a good deal. Additionally, I am entitled to make a living. Ever hear the expression sometimes you give away butter and make money on milk? This applies to anyone running a business. You give great deal on certain items and make money on the other items. I guess there is no pleasing everyone.

On a different note, I love my new max. Check out the pics.






Weak....

[Not_Vin_Diesel]

Weak? Come on Harddrive, he made good points. You have to see it from both sides. He said dealer's are entitled to make as much profit as possible and even admitted to paying sticker for his car. It does work both ways. Give him some credit.

[Just_Plain_Obi]

Sold the wife's 2003 G35 and picked up a 2004 SE MAX for Invoice yesterday.



Does anyone smell what I smell here?? http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

[mayhem]

"Weak...."

Not a very nice response to someone who seems to be supporting your position. He said you have every right to charge whatever you wish for your cars.

Companies are entitled to make a profit and consumers are entitled to haggle the price of the goods they purchase. If the price is too high the consumer will not purchase the product, if the offer is too low the company is under no obligation to sell that good for an unreasonable compensation...its called free enterprise. MSRP is too high a price to pay for a car, the dealer profits are too steep at that price point, but invoice is too low...in the cases where people purchase cars for invoice, obviously the dealership is still aming money on the transaction...otherwise it wouldn't be such a common practice to sell cars for invoice price...dealer holdback helps alot I'm sure, but there is probably something else on top of that...maybe factory volume incentives? I don't know.

[**DONOTDELETE**]

Harddrive,

What is your problem man? You blast everyone on this thread. I wrote a concise relevant argument that if you took time to read and understand supports part of your position, minus your attitude and dislike for people.

Life is to short to walk around annoyed and disgusted all the time. If you detest fellow man so much, get out of sales and get a job where you don’t have to deal with people.

I own a business and love all my customers; even the demanding ones. They enable me to survive and feed my family.

There must be a hidden issue behind your attitude. Do you have resentment towards your boss because you’re not his boss?

[oolatec]

Don't mind HARDDRIVE... he is just mad everyone buying an '04 Maxima isn't buying one from him, because they know he will rip them off... http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[squid]

I'm going to have to grudgingly agree with '04blackmax' on this one. He does have a nicely balanced view.
I, on the other hand, do not have a nicely balanced view. MSRP on everything! http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/crazy.gif Baby needs a house. http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[kevhen]

HARDDRIVE, as a Nissan sales rep, you don't seem to be representing your company very well. Maybe corporate needs to come there and have a little talk.

[squid]

As a Nissan sales rep, you don't seem to be representing your company very well. Maybe corporate needs to come there and have a little talk.


Uh, suuuure.

[HARDDRIVE]

HARDDRIVE, as a Nissan sales rep, you don't seem to be representing your company very well. Maybe corporate needs to come there and have a little talk.



Dear Mr. Henriksen,

As I have NEVER tried to represent my Dealership, as I have never used its name in relation to me working there...make a note to yourself that,"HARDDRIVES' opinions and views expressed here in cyberspace, are his and his alone! And therefore do not have a direct co-realtion to his Dealership." Also his material is intended for MATURE AUDIENCES ONLY

Now bite me, Sir!


PS You're still weak... http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[**DONOTDELETE**]

If you think that people don’t relate your personal views with whom you are associated with, you are sadly mistaken.

One question, you live in Hawaii, the weather is always nice, why all the hostility?

[HARDDRIVE]

If you think that people don’t relate your personal views with whom you are associated with, you are sadly mistaken.

One question, you live in Hawaii, the weather is always nice, why all the hostility?







No...I'm not mistaken. Who I choose to be here, isn't who I really am....none of you know me the person (and you never will). I happen to have a "stellar" career to the contrary.

And yes, this is paradise. Hostility??? Sorry for your "thin-skin." Don't take these post to-heart. Sheeeesh http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/frown.gif

[kevhen]

Have you taken your meds recently? Is the new Max not selling as well as you hoped?

[**DONOTDELETE**]

Oh, so you enjoy being perceived the way you are here, in the forum. Now I understand. All that attitude is just pretend. I guess some people have strange ways of spending their time.

Good luck with your Stellar career

[HARDDRIVE]

Oh, so you enjoy being perceived the way you are here, in the forum. Now I understand. All that attitude is just pretend. I guess some people have strange ways of spending their time.





TAKE IT EASY, THERE FELLA...YOU LADIES ARE TOO FUNNY TO ME

hahahahahahahahaha http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/tongue.gif