Armada getting negative feedback/opinions.....

[Deadpool]

I know people got opinions but looking at the truck, people at vwvortex and caranddriver sure hate this beast. I didn't expect so many negative views. What's your take on this? Is this going to bomb?

[CoCo_PuFf]

I don't think it will bomb , but it will not be a cash cow. the design is a little strange. I mean i understand that they are trying to be different but the roof line on the armada makes it look like they just attached the rear end at the last moment.....so far I think that the Quest is the worst Nissan design, followed by the Armada and then the Maxima .....I'm not saying that the Armada and Maxima are bad...they just have stand out design elements that ruin the design.....the Quest on the other hand is just pure puke.

[GroovinGTR]

It's creating a buzz whereas the new Expedition and Sequoia just slid into the dealerships silently. The buzz might be negative, but considering most vwvortexers, freshalloyers, and caranddriverers hate ALL SUVs its no big surprise. The Armada stands out in a new 7-series way, not an Aztek way. For such a crowded marketplace a polarizing desing is probably the best move. It'll sell like crazy, just like the new 7. I don't understand why, but it just will http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/frown.gif

[bto]

It's creating a buzz whereas the new Expedition and Sequoia just slid into the dealerships silently. The buzz might be negative, but considering most vwvortexers, freshalloyers, and caranddriverers hate ALL SUVs its no big surprise. The Armada stands out in a new 7-series way, not an Aztek way. For such a crowded marketplace a polarizing desing is probably the best move. It'll sell like crazy, just like the new 7. I don't understand why, but it just will http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/frown.gif



For the sake of Nissan having more money I sure hope so...
because more money -> more chances of seeing the next Silvia here.

[Deadpool]

Making a buzz is something Nissan hadn't done in a while. I personally think this thing will be a huge hit, both Titan and Armada. Up till now, automakers have went plain vanilla as far as truck goes. Nissan has put alot of effort into these trucks.

I think looking at it in person will change minds and turn heads.

[Altyfan]

Personally, I developed a liking for the new Maxima after I saw it in metal. I think Nissan is trying to change look and perception of a common vehicle design. I did not like the New BMW 7 series rear end, but then I reserved my opinion and I feel they tried to change the conventional trend. The Armada looks very plain from the side, probably because it does not have any striking wheel arch line. But compared to Sequoia , Expedition and other competition, I like it. Only expected it to have the Current Pathfinder type rear hatch design. I strongly feel that Nissan will
take some major share away with its Titan and Armada.

[NissLover]

What I think is wrong with it is that the rear just goes straight down instead of the D-pillar slanting, which really makes it look like they just threw on one of those thing they put on trucks to cover the bed. It just looks acward, and the block sticking out in the rear hatch. If they slant the D-pillar a little then the rear wouldn't look so bad. Can someone Photoshop it. But other than the rear I Love It.

[Not_Vin_Diesel]

Although I can't say I'm in love with it from looking at pictures, it's a large SUV, so what does anyone expect. It's like the question of how innovative can a pickup truck look after the grill/hood area? Not much. Same with big SUV's. Any variation from the A pillar back is always shocking. It's about interior space and usage more than anything and 14 cupholders, an option to get 2nd row captain's chairs and fold flats all the way around fits the bill.

[222Max]

Well name me a truly pretty large SUV. There really are none. Mass is the attraction with this segment so the styling usually plays up that feature. But dealing specifically with the Armada I can see where some will have issues with the looks but if it's as formidible in features and performance as the Titan seems to be it will hit because the total package will have appeal.

[SHIFT_6speeds]

So far:

The Armada is a piece of art! Love it. Great Job Nissan! Sweet indeed.

[Zed]

Agreed! This segment clearly needs art! It looks strong, big, modern and unique. Nissan is hitting alot of em out and over the fence lately. I can't wait to see it in person!

[CoolJ101]

There not to many big full size SUV's out in the marketplace beside Ford, GM and Toyota (Minus Luxury Lincoln, and Lexus) I think Nissan will do well here. Nissan needs to do the Armada as the same way they are doing the Titan. Offer more than the others to get people to come check it out. Until I see it in person I really can't say what I think about this truck.

[psypher22]

I don't think it will bomb , but it will not be a cash cow. the design is a little strange. I mean i understand that they are trying to be different but the roof line on the armada makes it look like they just attached the rear end at the last moment.....so far I think that the Quest is the worst Nissan design, followed by the Armada and then the Maxima .....I'm not saying that the Armada and Maxima are bad...they just have stand out design elements that ruin the design.....the Quest on the other hand is just pure puke.



I personally love the new look of the Quest. It looks like a sports car for huge families. Which isn't a bad thing at all.

[**DONOTDELETE**]

I'd take the opinion of any person who's only knowledge of a car is in a few pictures on the internet with a grain of salt. They've never seen it in person and they've certainly never driven it, who cares what they think?

[chillaZ]

Oh c'mon folks, the Armada is different something needed in this overly-crowded market. Looks better than the Sequioa or Expedition and Excursion, waaay better. As I said about the Titan, Nissan is definitely in the game now http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Kookz]

It's different? How...?

[frontierq]

I agree, chillaz. The Armada has style, like it or not. Nissan is not just trying to shove another bland , slab-sided box down our throats. They've actually used their imagination and creativity when designing it....

i've seen the Armada in person. It is truly something to look into if ur into getting a full size vehicle... dont be hatin it because its huge or ugly
yes some pic make the back look funny but its not that bad.

reasons it will do well (what i can tell from info and seeing it):
-large, three rows with still a ton of cargo space in the back (the expedition or land cruiser have like 8 inches when the third row is up)
-powerful new adavanced engine
-The exterior is sweet, nice lines (although maybe fenders are too much)looks destintive and catchy just like the xterra did when it came out
-one of the most impressive things was the interior, very stylish detailed and luxurious, it even has a lcd display center which is standard!!
-another thing this vehicle does is match and surpass every other fullsize vehicle in features, it rides on the titan body and has even better suspension, (the titan got the best suspension and steeringrating out of every pickup except for the tundra according to edmunds)
-it is a fullsize vehicle but can also be a luxury fullsize with its navigation, really nice leather seats, entertainment package, rearview camera, 4wd, even a 10 speaker bose stereo

so just wait for this damn thing to come out im sure it'll be a hit, and i noticed that alot of ppl in this forumn like it while otehr ones in other sections hate it...my theory...thats because all of these ppl seem to be oobssessed with silvia's and sub compact compact's...7 out of 10 families we know have a full sized SUV... a new one that is better than the rest will draw a crapload of attention

[Kookz]

7 out of 10 families we know have a full sized SUV

Yup, and it sucks http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/mad.gif

stop bein anti big car it f'n rediclous, if i had a family i would want a big ass truck and not try to stick them in the back of my new kia rio, although it would be nice if they lower emissions on them and if they's use less gas (which will happen in the next couple years)

so dont be hatin http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[camber]

Wait..... sounds like your describing things that minivans do best! More space, less emissions, better safer and gas mileage. A truck based suv can't match the qualities of good ol'minivan http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/wink.gif.

[psypher22]

Wait..... sounds like your describing things that minivans do best! More space, less emissions, better safer and gas mileage. A truck based suv can't match the qualities of good ol'minivan http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/wink.gif.





Enter the 2004 Nissan Quest... http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/cool.gif

[Irie_eyes]

Armada supporters?!
Oh my... http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/grin.gif

i dunno it hard to tell if either the armada or quest will do well, it seems that on paper and compared toother companies it should but with nissan u never know, too many ppl rather have a damn toyota

[Umi_R98]

Armaada should do about as well as the Xterra IMO, if may not sell huge amount of units, but its gonna definately take its share. I like because the sharp lines say outdoors like the Xterra, it doesn't seem to be urbanized like the other SUVs. If you want something urbanized go crossover not full SUV. Save the Armada and others when you go camping hehe.

[mat_silver]

stop bein anti big car it f'n rediclous, if i had a family i would want a big ass truck and not try to stick them in the back of my new kia rio, although it would be nice if they lower emissions on them and if they's use less gas (which will happen in the next couple years)

so dont be hatin http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/wink.gif



Wow! There are plenty of things between a Kia Rio and an Armada! What I don't understand is people who have a child, and suddenly they need a Suburban! http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/confused.gif

[Kookz]

And you should be speaking, mister teen mpg. http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/rolleyes1.gif

[oolatec]

I reserve judgement until I see it in person. http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[M_TYPE_X]

In Automotive News recently, Toyota remarked that Nissan entering the market will help them as people learn to associate 'Japanese makes' with 'full-size trucks and SUVs'.

[Umi_R98]

Wow! There are plenty of things between a Kia Rio and an Armada! What I don't understand is people who have a child, and suddenly they need a Suburban! http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/confused.gif



beats the heck outta me, maybe its because their big and when you crash, crumple zones aren't the whole car. -=\
I mean its ok if you have something big like a boat, horse trailer, etc to haul. But if its for just driver and 1 kid, thats overdueing it jus a little as a daily driver.

i dont agree with it for one kid, but i do agree having a big suv with a couple active kids in a active family is important,

in a minivan, if the back seats are up there is NO room, it is harder to travel or carry alot of cargo around,

i just think there are situations when a minivn would be a stupid purchase.

as for one kid being born, i think family midsize sedans are the safest

[FanaticZ]

depends on the situation and what you have to carry. towing anything goes to the suvs, but i don't know too many other times where an suv would be better than the versatility of newer minivans-plenty of room even behind the 3rd row.
http://www.canadiandriver.com/testdrives/images/04sienna_le11.jpg

[kevindow]

I'm new to this forum, but does anybody have any info on the expected gas mileage of the Pathfinder Armada and when it is expected to be in the showrooms ? Thanks.
Kevin

[montyz81]

I have a 2000 Toyota Tundra only because My 1997 Nissan King Cab could not transport my newborn in any way. Now that Nissan has entered the market, I will be trading in my 2k tundra for an Armada. The good thing about the Armada is that it is different. I am sick of driving cars made from a cookie cutter. I also need something that can tow my 1981 280zx turbo, and it behind a Toyota is just plain blasphimous (SP?)
http://www.zccne.addr.com/Rides/David_Montgomery.jpg

[**DONOTDELETE**]

What I don't understand are people who impose their automotive choices on others.

Until you know what a particular vehicle is actually used for, it is lame to villify all SUV owners as idiots for not purchasing minivans.

When I see everyone driving around on mopeds, I'll change my tune.

If you can't afford a set of tools, then your best bet is one tool that can do the job of many...

What? You think I LIKE paying $50 to fill my tank? That's one HUGE negative incentive to buy an SUV. But until a Honda Civic Hybrid can tow a 7000-lb boat up to a mountain lake, I've got little choice.

Granted, the tax laws favor SUV buying, and I really don't agree with this in principle, but I don't make the laws.

The FX45 gets the same mileage as my old-school SUV. But I'm a [censored] for driving such a beast. OK, so perhaps I'm a [censored] for a lot of other reasons http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/smirk.gif but... but...

Methinks another pro/anti-SUV debate on this sight is a complete waste of time.

it is man

U LIKE IT U F*CKIN BUY IT...u don't like it u buy a hybrid, i am in complete favor of lower emissions, better MPG, and so on but who are any of u to tell others what to do with their hard earned money...

PLS NO ONE RESPOND TO THIS NO MORE ARGUMENT OVER THIS ITS OVER... I HOpe

Edmunds video (http://edmunds.com/video/?tid=edmunds.h..directory.video.1.*#)

nice video, thing looks awesome

[bandit67]

I like what I see on paper for the new Armada. It's different, and doesn't look like the same old bland stuff that every other manufacturer is spitting out and John Q. Public is snatching up. The power, room, and amenities all look good on paper.

We've been searching for a full size SUV for a while, and aren't very impressed with what's available out there. GM is out of the question for me. The Expedition is nice, but way underpowered. Same with the Sequoia, plus I think it's kind of ugly. And after my bad experience with a lemon of a Tundra (I'm a former Toyota fanatic), I'm not real keen on buying a Sequoia, with all the same under-designed components as the Tundra.

My wife and I are anxiously awaiting a test drive of the new Armada. I hope in real life, it's as good or even better than it is on paper.

[Umi_R98]

probably is, cause if you take a look at the Titan in some car shows that thing is awesome. Armada shares many parts with Titan, wonder how the comfort at the rear seats. Its a very spacious car.

from pictures and seein it at auto show it looks that the armada's third row seet has more room than a tahoe's second row, much more