X-Trail Sneak Peak!

[noelsaw]

Remember you saw and heard it first at FreshAlloy.com! Here's one of the world's first views of Nissan's new concept X-Trail mini-SUV to debut at the Paris auto show. Playing up on the Xterra name, the X-Trail is likely to be related to the rumored codenamed "ZR" vehicle that has been spotted being tested in Japan.

The likely engine of choice will be the new QR engine. Our sources tell us that a new all wheel drive system with drive by wire system will debut with the vehicle. Also look for an electronic traction and stability control system to be announced with the vehicle.

It's likely the X-Trail will be produced for the Japanese/Asian market and eventually the European market. What's not known is whether or not the X-Trail will make it to the States. Demographic overlap with the Xterra and similar pricing might prevent the X-Trail from arriving in the states. Although the X-Trail is smaller than the Xterra, the first X-Trails will likely need to be produced in Japan, keeping costs up and bringing the price point too close to the U.S. manufactured Xterra.

Stay tuned for FreshAlloy.com for the latest news on the X-Trail.

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[This message has been edited by noelsaw (edited 09-01-2000).]

[Infiniti]

Awsome work Nissan. http://forums.freshalloy.com/forum/images/icons/smile.gif Its a very clean design with crisp lines and creases. One thing I dont like is that old Frontier like grille. I think it should be like the current Pathfinder or like the new Frontier or even the QX4. Those wheels are sporty and very attractive. I hope it comes to the US but I understand why it wouldn't though.

[djcunnin]

I am not a big fan of SUVs but I realy like the looks of the X trail. I think it would be a good thing to bring it over to the states. Nissn currently only has two SUVs (the Pathfinder and QX4 are really the same) and to fight the likes of Ford and Toyota with five SUVs I think Nissan needs more.

[tbear]

It is strange the grill is from the old Pathfinder. It looks like a misfit with the rest of the body. Since the headlamps look similar to Frontier, why not using the Frontier's grill?

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Hey what do you think about the x-trail replacing the xterra.. The Xterra is an Awesome so you for the money.. That style is getting a little to bland. Hey this would be a great Idea if the could put it in between the Xterra and the Patherfinder. One more thing I heard there going to make the Path bigger so if they do the X-trail can replace it.

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial[/img]quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Infiniti:
Awsome work Nissan. http://forums.freshalloy.com/forum/images/icons/smile.gif Its a very clean design with crisp lines and creases. One thing I dont like is that old Frontier like grille. I think it should be like the current Pathfinder or like the new Frontier or even the QX4. Those wheels are sporty and very attractive. I hope it comes to the US but I understand why it wouldn't though.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I think the reason for the grille looking like the old Frontier, is that the current GU/GR Patrol also has a grille like that. The Patrol has a massive reputation here downunder and also in Europe, and I can see why Nissan would want to link the Xtrail with big brother.

[Infiniti]

The only problem I have, and many people and media have, is that Nissan makes the rear doors of their trucks/SUVs too small. The QX4 and Path get panned on it all the time. Look at those rear dors on the X-trail; Calista Flockhart might be the only one to get in them comfortably!

[sonnym]

Overall the truck looks really good, nissan is actually letting their designers design for a change.

However, I hate the front Grill. It looks like a cross between the 1999 Frontier and the new ugly Suburu Forrester.

I'm not a truck person, but with a new grill that things leads the class in looks.

Great wheels though.

[noelsaw]

If the X-Trail was ever brought to the U.S., it would most likely have a restyled front and tail.

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial[/img]quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by sonnym:

However, I hate the front Grill. It looks like a cross between the 1999 Frontier and the new ugly Suburu Forrester.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

[Infiniti]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial[/img]quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by noelsaw:
If the X-Trail was ever brought to the U.S., it would most likely have a restyled front and tail.

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I think the back is awsome. Excluding the grille, the front is great too! http://forums.freshalloy.com/forum/images/icons/smile.gif

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the roof rack looks pretty sharp. looks more built into the vehicle than the Xterra's roof rack (which is cool in its own right). i also like the little foglamps on the front of the roof rack. i'm kinda undecided on the front fascia. i like the Xterra and Pathfinder's front fascia a little better but i guess that front end works for a small SUV. i also think Nissan should sell it here. the Xterra is not a small SUV, it's a truck-based cheap competitor to 4Runners and Explorers

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That looks pretty dang cool! I really hope they bring it to the US. FINALLY, a Nissan design I really like http://forums.freshalloy.com/forum/images/icons/smile.gif I do think the nose needs to be changed, something more aggressive for the US like the nose on the current Pathfinders would do. The nose on this vehicle is basically an attempt to tie it in with the rest of the European Nissan family, including the Patrol. Which in Europe has a very similar grille.

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Well, I am a big fan of the Xterra, but I would support the X-Trail supplanting it, even if its under the same name! While the current XTerra reminds me of a Jeep in its image as a simple back-to-basics truck, the X-trail could be a real money maker as it reminds me more of a Land Rover or other classy vehicle (again, not in specific cues but just in image the overall design portrays). Just my 2 pennies!

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the Xterra should never be replaced by the Xtrail in my opinion. As good as that vehicle may be on road, the Xterra sells on its rugged image which it can really back up.

if they do bring the Xtrail over, it should slot below the Xterra

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also, the Xterra already is a real money maker http://forums.freshalloy.com/forum/images/icons/smile.gif

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That's a CRV on steroid!!!!

Look at the door handles, tail lights http://forums.freshalloy.com/forum/images/icons/shocked.gif

[stonefield]

I like the X-Trail. I think they designed that thing perfectly for the markets they are going to be selling them in. If brought here to the U.S., without any doubt they'd change it a bit. I would only change the front, is all. I really like the rest of the vehicle. Also, the smartest thing would be to slot it under the XTerra, and then move the Pathfinder up in size to compete with Expedition sized SUV's. They just need more capacity here to build the X-Trail in the U.S. to keep costs down. Of course, we do know they plan to expand U.S. production capacity.

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I don't see how Nissan could bring it into the US at a cheaper price than the Xterra.

[Max Ima]

Wow.

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I have never been fond of SUv's but i have to say, i would buy that in a heartbeat! hot diggety!

[clutch]

Doors are identical to CRV.
Grill, can't say any more than what's been said already.
I'm torn about the front fender character line, it's a bit 80's vintage Volvo.

Since I'm not an avid off-roader, I just need AWD, so this might fit the bill for me (actually my wife). Plus, it might actually get better gas mileage than an X-Terra.

This vehicle may be a good alternate to other front wheel drive based SUV like the new Ford Escape, Honda CRV, and Toyota RAV4. Although, just based on design appeal I would give the nod to the next gen RAV4.

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial[/img]quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by clutch:

This vehicle may be a good alternate to other front wheel drive based SUV like the new Ford Escape, Honda CRV, and Toyota RAV4. Although, just based on design appeal I would give the nod to the next gen RAV4.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

No actually I'd have to disagree with you. I think it is on par (or above) the next generation RAV4. If I were considering a cute sport ute as my next vehicle purchase, I would consider this one first. Than the Toyota second. http://forums.freshalloy.com/forum/images/icons/smile.gif

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very nice work. i think it is a welcome change to the suvs out there thow i dont like the grill the rear compensates for it all. they should bring it to the U.S. the X-terra needs a little brother

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It's my hope that the X never comes to this. The X was designed with an outdoor sportsman in mind. The vehicle pictured here is a Pathfinder. It is designed for the grocery getter. One of my biggest concerns living in Florida is that the complaints from the soccer moms buying the 2WD X's here about ride and the lack of luxury will be heeded eventually and the X will be tamed.

Hearing some of the statements on this forum really worries me now because it tells me that the move to tame it isn't confined to just Florida. Those of us who put the X to solid use have finally found a truck that takes what we dish out, whether on the way to a ski slope or camping in a swamp. If the X winds up tamed and looking like that, I will never purchase another one. If I want AWD and a luxury liner, I will buy an Escalade or Navigator.

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial[/img]quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by warmongr:
It's my hope that the X never comes to this. The X was designed with an outdoor sportsman in mind. The vehicle pictured here is a Pathfinder. It is designed for the grocery getter. One of my biggest concerns living in Florida is that the complaints from the soccer moms buying the 2WD X's here about ride and the lack of luxury will be heeded eventually and the X will be tamed.

Hearing some of the statements on this forum really worries me now because it tells me that the move to tame it isn't confined to just Florida. Those of us who put the X to solid use have finally found a truck that takes what we dish out, whether on the way to a ski slope or camping in a swamp. If the X winds up tamed and looking like that, I will never purchase another one. If I want AWD and a luxury liner, I will buy an Escalade or Navigator.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hey Hey Hey chill man, all I'm saying is make this the X-terra's baby brother. I'm as much of an avid four wheeler as you, but I understand good marketing. The X-terra is an excellent off road bruiser, but some people dont like that. They'd much rather spend their money on something that looks rugged, but has the handling/ride characteristics of a car. Let the avid 4x4 wheelers choose the X-terra. But for the rest of the people out there, give them something to choose from besides the Rav4 or CRV. I'd rather see them in a Nissan than a Toyota or Honda, wouldnt you?

[This message has been edited by HammerMan (edited 09-10-2000).]

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Unfortunately it never happens that way. I have worked for manufacturers too long to believe in a social utopia. The best example would be the Chevrolet vs. Ford thing. GM in their never-ending wisdom eliminated the live-axle 4WD to tame it for wanna-be off-roaders. Not long after, Ford followed suit by replacing their old twin traction beam with a full IFS. Ford discovered the folly of their ways and released the new F-250/350 live axle series. They are now one of the hottest selling 4WD trucks on the market. Meanwhile, GM sticks to the weak IFS and is further destroyed by Ford.

Nissan does business similar to GM. If you have any doubt, view the evolution of the Pathfinder. I am willing to bet that sooner or later, the grocery getters will win. I hope not because I love my truck. But the history of Nissan doesn't point that direction.

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial[/img]quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by HammerMan:
Hey Hey Hey chill man, all I'm saying is make this the X-terra's baby brother. I'm as much of an avid four wheeler as you, but I understand good marketing. The X-terra is an excellent off road bruiser, but some people dont like that. They'd much rather spend their money on something that looks rugged, but has the handling/ride characteristics of a car. Let the avid 4x4 wheelers choose the X-terra. But for the rest of the people out there, give them something to choose from besides the Rav4 or CRV. I'd rather see them in a Nissan than a Toyota or Honda, wouldnt you?

[This message has been edited by HammerMan (edited 09-10-2000).]<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial[/img]quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by warmongr:
Unfortunately it never happens that way. I have worked for manufacturers too long to believe in a social utopia. The best example would be the Chevrolet vs. Ford thing. GM in their never-ending wisdom eliminated the live-axle 4WD to tame it for wanna-be off-roaders. Not long after, Ford followed suit by replacing their old twin traction beam with a full IFS. Ford discovered the folly of their ways and released the new F-250/350 live axle series. They are now one of the hottest selling 4WD trucks on the market. Meanwhile, GM sticks to the weak IFS and is further destroyed by Ford.

Nissan does business similar to GM. If you have any doubt, view the evolution of the Pathfinder. I am willing to bet that sooner or later, the grocery getters will win. I hope not because I love my truck. But the history of Nissan doesn't point that direction.

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Well hey, I too lament the end of the live axle days, and look forward to their speedy return. Unfortunately that will never happen. As truck sales become the bread and butter of most car manufacturers of the world, they have to become more car like to please the consumers. Furthermore, for Nissan to kill off an already hot selling product like the X-terra to simply make room for a vehicle like this would be a big mistake. I believe the next generation X-terra should only build upon the rugged abilities, and image of the current model. I still think there is room underneath the X-terra for a vehicle like this. Nissan would be really stupid not to bring this thing to the United States. They might even be able to make this [X-trail] more off-roadable than the CRV and RAV4, which would really make a killing.

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this is the kind of thing NISSAN needs to get back on top. thow its not rugged like an X-terra it also dosnt have all that black all over (and let me tell you alot of people dont find that attractive) toyota mad a killing off of the RAV-4 and so did honda with the CR-V and to me this truck looks much moor rugged than they do. the new RAV-4 even goes so fare as to have the QX4's fog lights.

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this is the kind of thing NISSAN needs to get back on top. thow its not rugged like an X-terra it also dosnt have all that black all over (and let me tell you alot of people dont find that attractive) toyota mad a killing off of the RAV-4 and so did honda with the CR-V and to me this truck looks much moor rugged than they do. the new RAV-4 even goes so fare as to have the QX4's fog lights.

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial[/img]quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by HammerMan:
Hey Hey Hey chill man, all I'm saying is make this the X-terra's baby brother. I'm as much of an avid four wheeler as you, but I understand good marketing. The X-terra is an excellent off road bruiser, but some people dont like that. They'd much rather spend their money on something that looks rugged, but has the handling/ride characteristics of a car. Let the avid 4x4 wheelers choose the X-terra. But for the rest of the people out there, give them something to choose from besides the Rav4 or CRV. I'd rather see them in a Nissan than a Toyota or Honda, wouldnt you?
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I agree. Right now Nissan does not have a car-based SUV in their lineup, and with the RX300 selling like hotcakes, they need one. Toyota has a five SUV lineup - RAV4 is the cute ute, Highlander is the car-based SUV, 4Runner is the true SUV, Sequoia is the people carrier, and Land Cruiser is the ultimate off-roader. Nissan needs variety in its SUVs, because it is the money maker, and once they start raking in the dough, they can import cars like the Silvia and Skyline. X-trail will compete with CR-V, RAV4, and Escape, so it should have the QR and maybe the VQ30DE optional. Xterra will compete against traditional SUVs like 4Runner and Montero Sport. Pathfinder should remain truck-based but be more luxurious than the X(which it already is). The new full-size truck will create the people-mover SUV (maybe call it Patrol? http://forums.freshalloy.com/forum/images/icons/smile.gif ). With Infiniti, the QX4 should become car-based, to compete with the RX and X5, since nobody takes a luxury SUV off-road (except me http://forums.freshalloy.com/forum/images/icons/grin.gif). And for those wanting the luxury, and the off-roading, the Pathfinder would suffice. And the Nissan full-size SUV should spawn an Infiniti variant.



[This message has been edited by carguy714 (edited 09-11-2000).]

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What I want to know is where you guys think Nissan is going to be able to position the Xtrail price-wise, I very much doubt it could be brought in at a cheaper price than Xterra, and here lies the problem. That above all else is why I don't think it will make it to the US.
You can tell that it wasn't designed for the US from the grille, The grille looks that way,because in europe, Oz and NZ that grille is the face of the Patrol and Navara, two of the most respected offroaders around, Nissan wants to link that tough image with the Xtrail.

[stonefield]

Like I stated in my earlier post. If they build it here, they will be able to introduce it in the states at a good price. If brought here, the grill will be different--just like all their other cars.

[2HD]

Because of the price I think it will just compete to closely with Xterra. They would almost be like a Maxima and Altima duo but worse. I really don't think now is the time to bring it here unless it wll be significantly lower or higher priced than Xterra. But besides bringing the Xtrail over here what about a stretched version of it. What I tink Nissan should create is a car based SUV like the MDX with 7 passenger seating or maybe more.

This is what the SUV line up should be like, first Xterra which will be the lowest priced and smallest. Then the car based SUV like I mentioned above and then Pathfinder should become the Full Size SUV to solve all problems. They could even bring Tino over or make a Hybrid version of X-trail witch would justify the price and would make it more distinct to Xterra. Plus by then even ford will have a hybrid Escape. Nissan can beat them to it though.

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial[/img]quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by 2HD:
Because of the price I think it will just compete to closely with Xterra. They would almost be like a Maxima and Altima duo but worse.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

True, but Toyota has the Highlander and 4Runner overlapping in some price areas, but they still expect the Highlander to do well. The Xterra will attract all the people who want an off-road vehicle. The Xtrail will attract people who would otherwise buy a CR-V or RAV4. The Xterra has already lost potential sales to the CR-V and RAV4 because of its truckishness, so instead of softening the Xterra, the Xtrail will be welcome to those buyers who didn't like the Xterra.

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial[/img]quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by 2HD:
Because of the price I think it will just compete to closely with Xterra. They would almost be like a Maxima and Altima duo but worse. I really don't think now is the time to bring it here unless it wll be significantly lower or higher priced than Xterra. But besides bringing the Xtrail over here what about a stretched version of it. What I tink Nissan should create is a car based SUV like the MDX with 7 passenger seating or maybe more.

This is what the SUV line up should be like, first Xterra which will be the lowest priced and smallest. Then the car based SUV like I mentioned above and then Pathfinder should become the Full Size SUV to solve all problems. They could even bring Tino over or make a Hybrid version of X-trail witch would justify the price and would make it more distinct to Xterra. Plus by then even ford will have a hybrid Escape. Nissan can beat them to it though.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I agree with you totally, in fact Nissan already has a couple of 7 seater 4wds already, the Mistral and the Patrol, while the Patrol is obviously truck based, the Mistral is not, the Mistral would suit this gap in Nissan's US lineup.

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I think it is a very nice looking vehicle. It looks like a baby Patrol. I would like to see it over here, too. But I am concerned about the price point. I don't see how they can slide in below the Xterra if they build it overseas, and I don't think it is big enough to fit in between the X and the Pathy.

If the gas crunch got REALLY bad (over $2.00 gallon) maybe it could substitute the Xterra as an emergency measure. Let's just hope it doesn't come to that. http://forums.freshalloy.com/forum/images/icons/shocked.gif

You gotta give Nissan credit on this one, it's a very nicely styled vehicle.

[Max Ima]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial[/img]quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by carguy714:
With Infiniti, the QX4 should become car-based, to compete with the RX and X5, since nobody takes a luxury SUV off-road.
[This message has been edited by carguy714 (edited 09-11-2000).]<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Wisdom has been spouted above. Infiniti execs, please read and make happen.

[mcervantes]

Here are more X-Trail photos, including a shot of the interior.

Click Here! (http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=926026&a=8912867)

mikecervantes
FA Contributing Editor

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WOW, I want one!!! The only thing I would change would be the location of the instrument panel, but other than that I really like.

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You know this situation is simple for me. You guys talk about how off road worthy the xterra is, well lets bump up the price by 1-2000 by adding a trd style differential locker 31" tires and raise it 2" that would make me happy as well as apply it to the frontier. By reasonbly bumping up the price you now have enough room for the xtrail which i definately think should come here.

[jochi]

What's the suspension setup on the X-trail??

[2HD]

Does anybody else think that X-trail looks a bit like Montero Sport from the side. Not that it's really a bad thing.

[shaun]

i dont think we really have room for the x-trail...from what's been mentioned in the model matrix..nissan is planning on building a rav4 and crv fighter...and nissan allready has to suv's...i think that they need to build a full size suv to compete with the land cruiser and suburbans and tahoes....and i guess mini suv is allright too...but as far as midsize is concerned..they allready have two bad ass suv's and the x-trail is a lil smaller then the xterra so it shouldnt replace it....now if they shrink this thing down then it would definately be a competitor to those ugly rav4's (even the new design is ugly) and the crv's

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I have a question, some people are saying that the Xtrail will come out in the next 12 months or so, but Nissan Japan says that they are introducing a new SUV next month. Is this going to be the Xtrail? or is it the long awaited 3.5 Terrano?

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http://global.nissan.co.jp/Japan/NEWS/20000920_0e.html
please check this site or nissan.co.jp for nissan news.

Nissan to Introduce New SUV in the Domestic Market Next Month

Tokyo -- Nissan Motor Co., Ltd. today announced that it plans to introduce a new sport-utility vehicle (SUV) in the domestic market in October. This new model is based on the X-TRAIL concept car that will be exhibited at the 2000 Paris Motor Show, which opens on September 30 and runs until October 15, with September 28 and 29 designated as press days.

This new SUV proposes a novel, highly refined SUV which caters to the needs of outdoor types, ranging from outdoor sports enthusiasts to people who want to enjoy their leisure time in comfort.The new SUV will be sold by Nissan and Motor dealers of the Nissan Blue Stage, including Nissan Red and Blue Stage dealers that handle all models across Japan.

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Cheers, thanks for that

[2HD]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial[/img]quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by shaun:
i dont think we really have room for the x-trail...from what's been mentioned in the model matrix..nissan is planning on building a rav4 and crv fighter...and nissan allready has to suv's...i think that they need to build a full size suv to compete with the land cruiser and suburbans and tahoes....and i guess mini suv is allright too...but as far as midsize is concerned..they allready have two bad ass suv's and the x-trail is a lil smaller then the xterra so it shouldnt replace it....now if they shrink this thing down then it would definately be a competitor to those ugly rav4's (even the new design is ugly) and the crv's<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Why don't they just Make Xterra larger then they could bring over Xtrail.

[Mo]

Guys you know what I think Nissan will end up bring X-Trail to compete. Today I read from Automobile Magazine November Issue on the first page. It states that Toyota will introduce two more SUT and they will have a total of five. The Highlander will be available early 2001 (same size as Xterra) and The Sequoia which is even bigger then Land Cruiser will be available November 2000.

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial[/img]quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by 2HD:
Why don't they just Make Xterra larger then they could bring over Xtrail.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

They do make a larger Xterra, it's called a Pathfinder. I think there's room in the lineup for all three Nissan SUV's.

[shaun]

COME ON NOW...3 MIDSIZE SUV'S?? PEOPLE THAT WANT SOMETHING MORE RUGGED GO FOR THE XTERRA AND PPL THAT WANT LUXURY GO FOR THE PATHFINDER..AND THAT'S ALL THEY NEED IN THE MIDSIZE SEGMENT...NOW THEY NEED A FULL SIZE AND A COMPACT.

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Most X-terras leaving the showroom floor go for about 25-26 grand now. There's plenty of room for the X-trail if they price it competitively under the X-terra.

[2HD]

Nissan raised the price on Xterra so it starts in the low 18,000s instead of 17,000s like before.

If Nissan is smart they would make Pathfinder the full Size SUV. By the time that happens Xterra will be waiting for a redesign and they could bring Xtrail over like a year before that. They also need a 7 passenger car based SUV.

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Why doesn't Nissan just take the Patrol over to the US, and fit it with the ZH45DE, there is a ready made fullsize SUV right there.

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Nissan shoud do this:
Bring R'nessa to fight RX300 (beef up the R'nessa a little bit).
and Patrol to fight Landcruiser (has won the fight against landcruise in the Pacific).
Also bring Mistral/Terrano II/X-trail to fight RAV4.
Nissan has already brought 4-door pickup from Japan and the Regulus (QX4) and will soon bring the others once the ones they've introduced have proven popular.

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It's great to see that nissan is trying to keep up with toyota with the introduction of the new Q45 to combat the Lexus LS 430. I am the proud owner of a 1999 nissan pathfinder. I like my suv, the X-trail fills that void of the Rav 4 that toyota has. However the x-trail looks good in every respect but will it have a low range tranfers case. living in canada 4-wheel drives are everywhere, (not because we have snow and it doesn't snow were i live on the west coast)The Kia sportage is making a huge killing in the compact suv segment because it has a low range so my statement would be will the X-trail have a low range all the nissan suv are true off road vehicles or will this be a sissy truck and offer no low range.

Oh and why doesn't this page ever tell any thing on the nissan patrol which is the largest suv nissan offers (Almost alike to the Toyota Land Crusier).

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Definitely took the rear from the CR-V. Nissan can't you even come up with an original rear end design?

[jochi]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial[/img]quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by 99ESMAX:
Definitely took the rear from the CR-V. Nissan can't you even come up with an original rear end design?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

It can be said that the CR-V took its rear end from a Volvo 850 wagon, and that the 850 wagon took its back end from a Chevy Lumina APV. I think the rear on the X-Trail obviously uses the same theme/philosophy as the CR-V, but I just think it's more like 2 design teams converging on an end point. The X-Trail is a very good looking SUV in my opinion, and any other back end would not look as good as the one they have now.
But I hate how the gauges in the interior are in the centre, I dunno one person who finds it convenient. Does it really save THAT much money!?!??

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I don't think the centre instrument pod is for cost saving reasons, i think it is more of a design feature, one i don't like very much either.

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I have been looking over the new X-Trail from Nissan. Awesome!! Send it over to the U.S. for an immediate sale.

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial[/img]quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by noelsaw:
Remember you saw and heard it first at FreshAlloy.com! Here's one of the world's first views of Nissan's new concept X-Trail mini-SUV to debut at the Paris auto show. Playing up on the Xterra name, the X-Trail is likely to be related to the rumored codenamed "ZR" vehicle that has been spotted being tested in Japan.

The likely engine of choice will be the new QR engine. Our sources tell us that a new all wheel drive system with drive by wire system will debut with the vehicle. Also look for an electronic traction and stability control system to be announced with the vehicle.

It's likely the X-Trail will be produced for the Japanese/Asian market and eventually the European market. What's not known is whether or not the X-Trail will make it to the States. Demographic overlap with the Xterra and similar pricing might prevent the X-Trail from arriving in the states. Although the X-Trail is smaller than the Xterra, the first X-Trails will likely need to be produced in Japan, keeping costs up and bringing the price point too close to the U.S. manufactured Xterra.

Stay tuned for FreshAlloy.com for the latest news on the X-Trail.

http://freshalloy.com/cars/nissan/images/xtrail.a.jpg

http://freshalloy.com/cars/nissan/images/xtrail.b.jpg

[This message has been edited by noelsaw (edited 09-01-2000).]<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Okay, here are my thoughts on this great little SUV...

I think Nissan has nothing to worry about marketing this along with the X-Terra (and Pathfinder). I feel each of these SUV's appeal to different people and markets. The X-Terra is an all-out rugged truck based SUV where this X-Trail seems to be the refined, buttoned down suburbia family thing that won't see off-road duty much at all...and the Path is getting ready to grow up in size.

I think it is in Nissan's best interest to bring this X-Trail over here and keep people from plucking out money for those CRV-things Honda has and that little RAV4-thing Toyota has. The X-Trail will take alot of those sales...

And on a personal note, I am not an SUV kinda person, but I have to admit, this X-trail really appeals to me...Great Job Nissan! Looks fantastic! The high level of qualiy within it is very apparent. Let the U.S. have it, it seems we don't get the good stuff over here...



[This message has been edited by SentraSE-Rman (edited 12-14-2000).]

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Now, lets re-open discussion on this hot SUV (see my comments above in my previous post). With the hot trend of SUV's and especially Toyota being successful with such a variety of different (some being similarly priced and sized) SUV's, Nissan can learn from this.

I still feel Nissan is missing the boat on loads of sales by not offering the X-trail on U.S. turf. I wonder, just wonder, how this X-trail would have faired in the Car & Driver comparo in their most recent issue. I bet it would have blown away the competition(?) and come out on top!!

[This message has been edited by SentraSE-Rman (edited 02-13-2001).]

[Deadpool]

Yea. Nissan should bring this SUV to US. Nissan needs a car based SUV to compete with the likes of CRV and rav 4 and alike. Xterra to me is a different kind of vehicle aimed at different buyers. X-Trail can be a refined carlike crossover like the others. It'll give Nissan a good sales boost as well as more market share. Nissan doesnt even have to offer it with a V6. 180hp QR engine will be more then enough given that it weighs less then Xterra.

[Zed]

I totally agree. This topic should be risen again, and Nissan should take note. With Toyota building a 4x4 off any and every chassis they have, Nissan can give em some serious competition without huge investment. Nissan has been pretty quiet about bringing the X-trail to north america latly. At first, media reports indicated Nissan was designing the small SUV for international use. The center stack gauge cluster indicated this, as well its car like configuration(CRV like). The hondaCRV sells about 90,000units/ year. And as I noted elsewhere,the X-trail does not compete with Xterra. Even at the same prices, the Xtrial is clearly more street oriented, especially with the hot 280hp turbo option. So, what is the latest status of this car coming here to boost Nissan sales further? Who has the latest scoop?

[jochi]

Nissan needs 4 SUVs.
1)X-Trail (small, roomy, carlike)
2)Xterra (keepin it real SUV)
3)Pathfinder (or another name) (make it a version of the FX45 ala Highlander, but don't make it as ugly!)
4)Full Sized (maybe called Pathfinder?) (Cut down a Sequoia with this thing)

That's the markets I see for SUVs. I don't think there will be many ppl. now that will want a mid-sized SUV which serves a dual purpose of ppl. hauler and decent offroad ability (4-Runner, Pathfinder), the Xterra should handle that crowd nicely. But the X-Trail is a MUST, because the Xterra DOES NOT fit in the compact category, any way you put it.

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That is a good point Jochi. What do you guys think of the possibility of Nissan is just waiting to bring it over here until the Pathy moves up in size(however much that is) so that they can justify bringing it over here. Correct me if I'm wrong but aren't all 3 SUV's pretty close to the same size. Granted they all have a different purpose but in the blinded view of the public why have 3 SUV's of close proportion competing with each other. I do hope they bring this over and that way they can zero in more on what the public wants in a suv. Pathy=big carlike family hauler(what a sad day considering its roots.)Xterra=basic off roader with Nissan reliability (Maybe they can start using the Patrol technology ohhhh that would be sweet but alas just a wish) Xtrail=cr-v and rav-4 competitor. From the specs that have been shown it would probably send these boys back to the drawing boards.

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Me, if I were in Nissan shoes, I would bring the Xtrail to compete with the CR-V,Rav4,Escape,Tribute and others carlike SUVs.

Then keeping the Xterra as a real 4X4 and moving the Pathfinder as the full size SUV. I think for the Pathfinder it would be the next logical step, don't you think? http://forums.freshalloy.com/forum/images/icons/wink.gif

[Zed]

With the SUV market becoming so diverse, The X-trail definatly has room here, despite the price simularity. Check this out:

1:Truck framed offroad SUV-4 sizes:Sidekick, Xterra, Expedition, Hummer
2:Car based SUV-3sizes so far: Rav4,Highlander,LWB ML420
3:Cross overs-4 sizes:X-90,Vibe,RSC,FX45

Note that there is different variations of these configurations as well,ranging from sport:RSC, to luxury:Navigator, to off-road: X-terra.

These are all seperate markets, appealing to different customers.

Nissan should take a bite out of the ones that are flourishing the most. If people want a vehicle that offers the space, drivability and smoothness of a minivan that doesn't have the image of one, give them the less gas guzzling car based UTES that they crave: X-trail, Highlander. And for the Work and Off road oriented driver, give'em a Ladder framed Xterra, Suburban.

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I can't see the pictures, where else can I view them?

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial[/img]quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Vspec:
I don't think the centre instrument pod is for cost saving reasons, i think it is more of a design feature, one i don't like very much either.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I agree, its a poor design feature and apparently most of the auto mags think so too... they blast the Toyota ECHO which also has a central mounted instrument panel... in fact the ECHO was called "A big mistake" by car and driver in a recent comparison. I beg you Nissan, DO NOT bring over any vehicle to the U.S. with centrally mounted instruments. put the instruments where they belong either the left or right... there's no middle ground!

Sidenote: The Primera also has this style instruments, I pray they don't go this way with the new Altima.

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial[/img]quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by da91stanza:
I agree, its a poor design feature and apparently most of the auto mags think so too... they blast the Toyota ECHO which also has a central mounted instrument panel... in fact the ECHO was called "A big mistake" by car and driver in a recent comparison. I beg you Nissan, DO NOT bring over any vehicle to the U.S. with centrally mounted instruments. put the instruments where they belong either the left or right... there's no middle ground!

Sidenote: The Primera also has this style instruments, I pray they don't go this way with the new Altima.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Surprisingly enough the review on the PRIMERA on the same site that previewed the X-trail said tha tthe Centre mounted instuments were surprinsingly easy to see...If it is done correctly, center mounted instruments can be in a better line of sight...

Example, sit in your vehicle and look straight ahead at the road. And what is in your line of vision? Not the guages that is for sure, you have to look down to see them behind your steering wheel. What you see in your perepheral vision is the air vents in the center of your dash... So, instead of taking your eyes totally off the road to look at your guages, in the Primera (and I am sure the X-trail as well), all you have to do is glance to your right and still be able to see the road. It is different but better... deciding this after doing what I just said. You'll see...

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Its funny to hear that C & D blasted the Echo for a centrally located pod yet they grope(sp) the Z8(who wouldn't) but the Z8 has a central unit. I saw the review on TV and they loved it and didn't mention the pod whatsoever. What's up with this. Reviewers need to make up their mind.
I personally don't like the design whatsoever I have even sat in a Z8 here in CO and I thought that a standard setting would have made that car perfect.
So basically hold the center pods for me please.

[Zed]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial[/img]quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by an1malch1n:
Its funny to hear that C & D blasted the Echo for a centrally located pod yet they grope(sp) the Z8(who wouldn't) but the Z8 has a central unit. I saw the review on TV and they loved it... Reviewers need to make up their mind.
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!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
In anycase, I'm opposed to central speedo and ESPECIALLY a central TACHOMETER! How the hell am I supposed to do my redline shifts!
These type of central location should be for the elderly that have eye strain issues and are not involved or care about driving.
Clearly there is no 'benefit' to this set-up, especially in a sports car! Can you say g i m m i c k s.

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Hello all. I really like this car ! I already tried to buy it in holland at the car show, but have to wait till summer or longer.
I had a change to sit inside the showcar. I also had some doubts about the central dials, but in real they look great, quite big and rotated towards the driver. This car is really roomy, a size bigger than the rav4. Probably because of the straigth outside shape. It is also a bit longer which makes it easier for the surfboard inside...
I like the grill, it is much better than the one on the japanese versions.
Just have to be able to order the 18 inch alloys with it, production looks like 15 inches...
Also a good feature is the longer front doors and smaller rear doors, makes a much better seat in the front. I am 1.94 meters and always end up behind the doorpost, not in this car. That also makes it feel roomier. Just hope they will deliver all the options: Climate control, leather heated seats etc. The roofrack is also doubtfull to make the european version, but who knows ? (are those lights legal ?)
It is like a small bmw X5 !!

[Zed]

DROOOOOL....The SR20VET(VariableValveTimming with Turbo!) is the baddest version and is alive and well. I think it should be in the 2002 Silvia, since its in the X-trail.

http://www.nissan.co.jp/X-TRAIL/T30/0010/CATALOG/GT/index.html


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[jonnyblaze]

GET RID OF THE OLD GRILLE!

[Nizzan]

If you build it (in the US).....They will come........

[diehardnissan]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial[/img]quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by noelsaw:
Remember you saw and heard it first at FreshAlloy.com! Here's one of the world's first views of Nissan's new concept X-Trail mini-SUV to debut at the Paris auto show. Playing up on the Xterra name, the X-Trail is likely to be related to the rumored codenamed "ZR" vehicle that has been spotted being tested in Japan.

The likely engine of choice will be the new QR engine. Our sources tell us that a new all wheel drive system with drive by wire system will debut with the vehicle. Also look for an electronic traction and stability control system to be announced with the vehicle.

It's likely the X-Trail will be produced for the Japanese/Asian market and eventually the European market. What's not known is whether or not the X-Trail will make it to the States. Demographic overlap with the Xterra and similar pricing might prevent the X-Trail from arriving in the states. Although the X-Trail is smaller than the Xterra, the first X-Trails will likely need to be produced in Japan, keeping costs up and bringing the price point too close to the U.S. manufactured Xterra.

Stay tuned for FreshAlloy.com for the latest news on the X-Trail.

http://freshalloy.com/cars/nissan/images/xtrail.a.jpg

http://freshalloy.com/cars/nissan/images/xtrail.b.jpg

[This message has been edited by noelsaw (edited 09-01-2000).]<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

How about the X-TRAIL GT 280PS Debut ? ?
The ultimate Kick ass SUV in the world ! ! !
Smokes rav4-crvs and all the rest !

http://www.xtrail.co.uk/home.asp
http://www.autoweb.com.au/start_/showall_/id_NIS/doc_nis0103052/article.html

http://www.nissan-global.com/GCC/Japan/NEWS/20001019_0e.html

http://www.rustyangel.com/nissan/news/news.html
&lt;Xtrail Unveiled!&gt; Nissan unveiled the new X-Trail
http://www.autoweb.com.au/start_/showall_/id_NIS/doc_nis0103052/article.html

http://www.nissan.co.jp/X-TRAIL/T30/0105/main.html
http://www.x-trail.net/main.html
http://www.x-trail.net/NEW/odaiba-main2.html

http://www.x-trail.net/MONTHLY/event.html
http://www.x-trail.net/NEW/odaiba-main2.html