GTiRabbit..... (PICS)

[garageEPIKtuning]

Since a lot of you guys have been posting non-factory swaps, I thought I'd show the world what we've been up to...in the Laboratory...MUHAHAHAHA... http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/grin.gif

1984 VW Rabbit GTi
Nissan Pulsar GTiR motor
Nissan SeR fwd tranny with LSD
Stock Nissan GTiR top mount intercooler
TurboXS RFL bov.
SAFC.
Custom VW/Nissan hybrid axles.
VW Mk2 front spindles/steering knuckles.
-completely stock appearance with the hood on http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/cool.gif

Completed with the exception of wiring. Coming soon.

http://www.epikmotorsports.com/sitehome/images/newpics/200312/go_bobo01a.jpg
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[McGuirk]

They desicrated the Nismo sign http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/tear.gif

[Jonny_290]

that's a tight little setup. very cool.

[t4mr2]

thats awesome. http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[cullen]

that is crazy , gti-r motors are sick

[Salty_X]

That's a real cool idea. http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/laugh.gif I love Volkswagens too, well, older ones anyway...
Putting both Nissan and VW together is just too awesome!

I wonder how hard it would be to put a SR20 into a Fastback, now that'd be sick!
There wouldn't be any need to worry about smog laws here in Cali either http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/cool.gif

[DoriftWolf]

They desicrated the Nismo sign http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/tear.gif



Yeah, we were expecting this type of reaction, but we got a worse reaction from the VW purists who couldn't believe that we'd desecrate their beloved German vehicle with a Japanese engine. When we were trying to gather information on creating the axles we needed strong enough to hold up to the power the engine was capable of, some of the VW gurus we talked to got very offended with us.

When we started this project, I'd admit that I'd been guilty of being a purist too, but after seeing the amount of work that has gone into this car you get a real respect for a project like this. In the end, some people will love this, some people will hate this, and some just won't care. The challenge of trying something different, no matter the results, is always worth the experience.

[Kookz]

Completely stock looking with the hood on...

Do you have a means to cool the intercooler?

[spider240sx]

anybody ever trying putting a FWD sr20 into a nissan micra? now that would be something funny.

[Yellow4g63]

Sweet swap. Hope you can keep the intercool to make some good HP. Careful with 3rd gear tho... BOOM!

[garageEPIKtuning]

Completely stock looking with the hood on...

Do you have a means to cool the intercooler?



Yes, we do. I thought I posted that pic, but I didnt so here it is. The secret is on the driver's side, at the end of the grille. The corner light has been removed and a scoop has been molded (using a s13 sidemount plastic scoop and a heatgun http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/smile.gif ) into the opening and directs flow up into the intercooler. There will be vents, or louvers in the hood to allow it to flow thru.

http://www.epikmotorsports.com/sitehome/images/newpics/200312/go_bobo10a.jpg

[garageEPIKtuning]

Sweet swap. Hope you can keep the intercool to make some good HP. Careful with 3rd gear tho... BOOM!



once the hood is vented, it should be okay.. we have thought of adding a fan though.

He has already planned to get the tranny cryo'd before we turn up the boost

[Kookz]

Pretty damn creative http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Hugh]

I'd put a fan on that intercooler. Maybe pushing from underneath?

Very cool setup you have there.

I'm not a purist... but I am very biased towards the SR20DET. I would like to put it in so many cars you don't even know...

Suzuki Cappuccino with SR20DET... Mmmm...

[NOSTALGIC_HERO]

where do you get SR head freeze plugs in silver? kekekekeke

SPRAY PAINT OWNS! AHHAHA

[mbmbmb23]

They desicrated the Nismo sign http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/tear.gif



Yeah, we were expecting this type of reaction, but we got a worse reaction from the VW purists who couldn't believe that we'd desecrate their beloved German vehicle with a Japanese engine. When we were trying to gather information on creating the axles we needed strong enough to hold up to the power the engine was capable of, some of the VW gurus we talked to got very offended with us.

When we started this project, I'd admit that I'd been guilty of being a purist too, but after seeing the amount of work that has gone into this car you get a real respect for a project like this. In the end, some people will love this, some people will hate this, and some just won't care. The challenge of trying something different, no matter the results, is always worth the experience.



Japanese...German......same diff. Its all "Axis of Evil 1942"

*jk*

Nice project....Post vids when you have them!!


-m

[Voltron]

Thats a pretty sick swap! Forget the "purists", afraid of change, afraid that what they know and love is being challenged. CA18DETs into AE86, SR20DET into an FD, Chevy V8 in Datsun 240Z, SR20DET into BMW 318i....ect. Remember one of the greatest race cars of all time? The AC Cobra. An American engine in a British car! Think what the "purists" said about that.
I daydream about a 20B three rotor in my S14.....yummmmy rotary madness.
Keep us posted on the project.

[garageEPIKtuning]

where do you get SR head freeze plugs in silver? kekekekeke

SPRAY PAINT OWNS! AHHAHA





hmm.. if I had swapped them.. lets see..Napa, Autozone..Advance Autoparts.. simple 30mm tap in plug. No big deal. No, this is an entirely bone stock 54c GTiR motor. But yea, as always, your "keen" eye picked out the spray paint. I coulda went all the way and just had him paint them gold. http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[1985vwgti]

1984 VW Rabbit GTi

-completely stock appearance with the hood on http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/cool.gif

http://www.epikmotorsports.com/sitehome/images/newpics/200312/go_bobo01a.jpg

http://www.epikmotorsports.com/sitehome/images/newpics/200312/go_bobo10a.jpg




I hate to have to break it to you but it wont look sock with that grill as it only came on 90-92 GTIs...
Your gti had a different grill stock... the grill that is on there now came from a completely different body style

this is what your grill should have looked like stock http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/grin.gif
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid38/p9d3472a24fb0115325e5393e336a5402/fd0f34a4.jpg

[garageEPIKtuning]

yes, we are well aware of that. In fact we have the 90-92 Round light grille zip-tied on in that pic. We have the factory grille and the upgrade to the Hella's in the middle of it too. I think "stock" in this context was a little different meaning.. http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[garageEPIKtuning]

There have been some questions about the rest of the car.. so here is a list of the mods.
Suspension will be fully capable..Tokico Illuminas all around with (Neuspeed?) coilovers. Front and rear sway bar upgrades, Neuspeed front upper strut bar..unknown rear strut bar, front camber plates, tie rods designed to adjust on both sides of the steering rack and to work with Mk2 VW steering knuckles. Momo Lakes driver's seat and Momo 4 pt harness. Currently running 14" VW teardrops polished with 195/60/14 Yok AVS-i's.

The majority of the equipment was on the car when the owner bought it third-hand. Along with it is a VW 1.8L motor, decked head, cam, neuspeed cam gear and header, neuspeed throttle body, upgraded CIS injection and MAS and I believe an LSD tranny. Car was fun like that, but only at much lower speeds than it will be capable of now. With the VW mill it was a nice sprint, but a long struggle to 100mph.

[Enthalpy]

I'm just stuck trying to figure out what this has to do with 240sx-Advanced? not a s-Chassis, not an engine that came in an S-Chassis...

[steve shadows]

i hate vw's but thats awesome haha

[Trunk]

I hate to have to break it to you but it wont look sock with that grill as it only came on 90-92 GTIs...
Your gti had a different grill stock... the grill that is on there now came from a completely different body style



I understand what you're saying because the grille does have the red line around it, but what about the Cabriolet? That was an A1 chassis and had dual rounds towards the end of it's production and it isn't an uncommon mod for a still-stock motor rabbit in the VW community (those guys love lighting). Dual round headlights, although a little more agressive than the squares, would not tip me off to an SR20DET under the hood. If anything I'd think it was a Cabriolet or a Mk2 GTI (still nothing to worry about http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/wink.gif)

But to keep it on-Nissan-topic, at least:

This car will be amazing with the SR (if it's anything like my friend's NX2000). I expect a lot of hater purists talking smack on this project. That's the way it was when my friend was talking about putting a v-tec motor in his car. It's almost as bad as rotary purists. But hey, if it works well, why not?

What made you pick the SR20DET over the VW 1.8T motor? Cost of the motorset would be my first guess and then simplicity of converting would be my second. The SR has a cable throttle as opposed to the drive by wire throttle on the 1.8T. But how are you handling the hydraulic clutch? Using a pedal assembly from an 02A equipped car? How about the cluster? The Rabbit has a cable speedo. Which cluster are you going to use?

[steve shadows]

the drive by wire system is hell to work with and the electronics and tuning of the 1.8t in the recent forms is also a pain in the azz and i have worked on 1.8t audis and they are a living hell to work on in terms of ecu going nuts with any tuning and the cost of getting the setup working for a 1.8t and being fast would prolly be a lot more in the long run. the sr parts are easy to get and fwd sr parts have low demand and are cheaper...

nice setup once again, i like the sr motor in the way it drives also, not quite as smooth but defintitely more noticable torque range and slightly more displacement.

[bl200sx]

I'm just stuck trying to figure out what this has to do with 240sx-Advanced? not a s-Chassis, not an engine that came in an S-Chassis...



Ya, I agree, this post should be moved, or locked, it has nothing to do with S-cars or S-engines.

[Hugh]

I'm just stuck trying to figure out what this has to do with 240sx-Advanced? not a s-Chassis, not an engine that came in an S-Chassis...



Hey Scott, how else would we have seen this car?

Around here I find this forum is generally strict on some rules and loose on others. This is one I don't mind them being loose on.

[CorradoKidd]

but we got a worse reaction from the VW purists who couldn't believe that we'd desecrate their beloved German

Yeah, alot of VW people are ghey, especially vortexers. I was actually thinking of putting a DET into a Cabriolet after seeing a B18 swapped Rabbit.


But how are you handling the hydraulic clutch? Using a pedal assembly from an 02A equipped car?

I wonder too, but aren't B13s cable clutch? The 02A pedal cluster doesn't exactly bolt an A1 car, A1s are a PITA when it comes to hybrid stuff.

[Hugh]

A DET?

[NOSTALGIC_HERO]

its the street slang for "sr20det"

i dunno where they got it cause they never said it in "the movie."....hmmm

[s13SRmadness]

I'd put a fan on that intercooler. Maybe pushing from underneath?

Very cool setup you have there.

I'm not a purist... but I am very biased towards the SR20DET. I would like to put it in so many cars you don't even know...

Suzuki Cappuccino with SR20DET... Mmmm...


ha ha ha
my friends and i are the same way.
my tastes are toward something much tamer. sr in a 240z with a custom suspension in the rear.
i have even half-heartedly looked into buying a 240z...
the sr has been into a ton of cars that i've seen or heard of- r32, r33, r34, fc, fd, 510, z33, 260z, eggs, and more i'm sure! now even VWs have been civilized http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[NOSTALGIC_HERO]

hahahahah EGGS!

NX HOA!

[Hugh]

Yep, I saw pics of a 'DET' under the hood of a 350z already.

....Like they read my mind....


This particular 'DET' was an SR20DET, not to be confused with the CA18DET, or the RB20DET, or even a 'DETT' like the RB26DETT or VG30DETT.

[KenFuji]

A DET?





det = detroit = eminem = dr dre = snoop dogg = smoking weed = wtf

[NIS240SHU]

Does that make my engine an SR20WTF, mate? http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[fourn2ner]

Hey everyone
I need some help with an ECU, i cant find what its for
I think its for rnn14 GTiR ,but i need feed back any links
or info would be great .....it says
B H
23710 1E000
A11-000 e52

[SaskS14]

Cool swap.

I guy in town here in Regina, Saskatchewan just did this swap into a Golf:

http://www.cwstuning.com/gallery/albums/coupe-degolf/Image017.sized.jpg

You should hear it. Just don't sound right. http://forums.freshalloy.com/images/graemlins/smile.gif

More pics here : http://www.cwstuning.com/gallery/coupe-degolf

[asad]

Ok now this thread has officially gone OT...

Asad

[jbanach77]

man i have seen it all now.