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    Driving on the highway and speeding tickets

    I was driving to Las Vegas to San Diego on a stretch of freeway in the desert on the 215.


    The speed limit was 70.


    There is little traffic I was going 76 on cruise control. I am always conscious about my speed. I was thinking 6 mph is less than 10% over the speed limit, so I doubt I would be pulled over.


    I see about 20 yards ahead of me a car breaks. I was thinking there must be a police officer on the side of the road. I was right. I slow down to 60. Just after I slow down, I pass a police car on the right shoulder. There are three lanes. I am in the far left lane.


    As soon as a pass, the police car drives off and merges into the middle lane. There is no car in the slow lane, so he has no reason to go into the middle lane. I was 75% sure he was going to pull me over.


    He passes me.




    When driving on the highway, what is the fewest mph over the speed limit anyone has gotten a ticket?
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    I am sure Marcus will chime is as well and ither confirm or correct the following:..

    But as a non LEO I have never been stopped for anything less than 15 mph over.

    It also dpends on your location of course.
    For example on I-95 in northern maryland during rushhour (before it gets thick) everyone is trying to beat rushhour, so flow-of-traffic in the left lane is just hair under 90mph.

    An unwritten rule in this 65mph zone on I-95, is that they wont pull over anyone under 80mph (A LEO once admitted it to a local paper)

    but location changes a lot:

    -Whether the local municipality needs money very badly.
    -Where the break even point is for ticket where they start making money or psending more money administering the ticket than they take in.

    Most places this break even point is exceeded at about 9 or 10 mph hence the old rule of thumb of 9 over is always safe.

    But some construction zones where fines double will drive the break even point much lower like 5 mph...
    Photo enforcement also dirves down ot the cost of writing and collecitng on tickets so there too the threshold is lower.

    So there are several factors that go into it but the old rule-of-thumb of 10mph or less still holds most places and I consider them part of the cost of driving.
    Ironically i havent gotten a ticket in several years.
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    I have been pulled over for 6 over, on an interstate highway, by the state police. The officer acted all pissed off at me for speeding, but he confirmed I was doing 6 over. I was very polite to him and apologized, and he finally let me off with a lecture, but didn't write me a ticket. It was close, though, and if I'd been a smartass he would have written me up for sure. A friend of mine got a ticket on I-35 a few years ago to 3mph over the limit!

    The reality is that ANYTHING over the speed limit can get you a ticket if the conditions are "right". If a cop has sat out there for a few hours with nothing, he might go for you for 5 over. Or if the pressure is on for ticket revenue (they will call it safety enforcement), the same thing applies. If he's had a fight with his wife, he might pull you over. Ditto if you somehow look suspicious to him and he wants to stop you to check you out.

    I've found that there is NO "safe" speed over the limit. I usually set my cruise at 4-5 over on the highway and keep my eyes peeled. Even with a good detector, I don't take a chance, since a ticket these days can mean $300 or more, as well as a big delay in your travel.

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    I once got a ticket in MN and argued it that I was going the same speed the patrol cars always go in routine and non emergency situations.
    That meant to me as a taxpayer that this is the standard they set and thier guidance ot traffic.

    I got off as I should have but that was back when the traffic courts were under less pressure to make money.
    One Freshalloy member has once offerd a police officer to write them up for something else (that was no points) but came up to the same fine as the speeding ticket and the Officer did.

    Win-win all around.

    I am always extremly polite and tacful when stopped BUT if an officer cames at me w/ a poor attitude I <do> talk back if its warranted.
    Something like "Officer I been addressing you respectfully and you <will> give me the same courtesy"
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    Good information in this thread.

    It looks like I could have gotten a ticket.

    In the future, I will not go above 2-3 mph above the speed limit.

    It kind of stinks though when making the five hour drive to Las Vegas.
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    I think it might be years until you get a ticket if you go 10 over.
    Do some people get one at 9 or less?
    yes but its rare.

    I drive by a rul eof 14 under.
    So if I do get stopped it wont be a big ticket and might get written down a little do.

    On I95 I've driven past aprjked trooper at 80-82 and not been pulled over ( flow of traffic was much more and slowed down to 80 close to the trooper)

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    to the OP, if you were going 76 in the left lane on the way to Vegas, you SHOULD have been pulled over, no offense LOL... I don't drive in the left lane going to Vegas, and I'm usually going 85-90, I only use it to pass slower drivers in the middle.

    Palmer, I used to live in MD (86-96) and I got pulled over all the time!! I hated it so much, I'm still a nervous wreck to this day if I ever have to drive when I visit my parents. I'm surprised to hear your comments, I guess it's changed since I left.
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    Falk:

    Where did you drive?
    I was living in North MD near the DE/PA border.
    Communiting from Elkton to Aberdeen Proving Ground.
    Once you got South of Perryville enforcement would be more common

    Even so I would drive with flow of traffic in left lane for almost a 3rd of my commute nearly every day for years,.. (90 mph was the flow of traffic in the left lane)
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    Quote Originally Posted by FalkDesigns View Post
    to the OP, if you were going 76 in the left lane on the way to Vegas, you SHOULD have been pulled over, no offense LOL... I don't drive in the left lane going to Vegas, and I'm usually going 85-90, I only use it to pass slower drivers in the middle.

    Palmer, I used to live in MD (86-96) and I got pulled over all the time!! I hated it so much, I'm still a nervous wreck to this day if I ever have to drive when I visit my parents. I'm surprised to hear your comments, I guess it's changed since I left.
    I just learned today that the left lane is for passing only. I thought it was for faster traffic. I am not sure I understand this though. If the left lane is only used for passing,
    there would be a lot more congestion in the other lanes.

    I was going 60 in the passing lane. You are right. He probably would have been justified in pulling me over.
    The more I think about it, I think I got a break. There was no other traffic, so maybe that played part of his decision.

    Center lane from now on.
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    Enforcement is a crap-shoot from area to area of the country. I agree with Fred on I-95, though - the traffic goes hell bent for leather and you have no choice but to go with them. And they go 85-90, bumper to bumper, too. Scared the pi** out of me last time I was there.

    That road to Vegas from Kingman, AZ (93, I think) makes me crazy. It's flat and opn and out in the middle of nowhere, and it's posted at either 65, I think, but everyone wants to go 80 or more. They post a policeman every so often along there and nab people, so you feel like you have to keep it down, but it's really hard to do so. I-15 on into CA is a better run in my experience, but I don't go that way - it's the wrong direction to Texas!

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    palmer, I lived in Columbia and Baltimore, so majority was on 95 and the BW Parkway (forget the route #) and anywhere in Howard County they just looked for me I think.
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    Around Baltimore is pretty bad.
    They have alot of photo enforcment there too now.
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    I have been pulled over for going as little as 1 mph over the limit- though that time it could be argued that I was age-profiled since I was a very young-looking 19-year-old. However, I have never gotten a ticket for going less than 25 mph over the limit (2 of those- many years ago and over 5 years apart). There are plenty of highways around NYC where you can get away with going 80 in a 55 because everyone is moving at that speed. Yes, it's nuts, and no, I don't do it anymore. Too much wear and tear on the car and the wallet/license. It's just the wild west where I drive (and by that I mean it's tamer in parts of the actual west where you can legally go 70-80 lol).

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    Not sure where all it is, but in some states they will physically take your license on the spot if you're exceeding the limit by a certain amount, or if you're racing. I've been told that at least in some areas, 20 or more over the limit will get your license confiscated.

    Anyone know about this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike_TX View Post
    I have been pulled over for 6 over, on an interstate highway, by the state police. The officer acted all pissed off at me for speeding, but he confirmed I was doing 6 over. I was very polite to him and apologized, and he finally let me off with a lecture, but didn't write me a ticket. It was close, though, and if I'd been a smartass he would have written me up for sure. A friend of mine got a ticket on I-35 a few years ago to 3mph over the limit!

    The reality is that ANYTHING over the speed limit can get you a ticket if the conditions are "right". If a cop has sat out there for a few hours with nothing, he might go for you for 5 over. Or if the pressure is on for ticket revenue (they will call it safety enforcement), the same thing applies. If he's had a fight with his wife, he might pull you over. Ditto if you somehow look suspicious to him and he wants to stop you to check you out.

    I've found that there is NO "safe" speed over the limit. I usually set my cruise at 4-5 over on the highway and keep my eyes peeled. Even with a good detector, I don't take a chance, since a ticket these days can mean $300 or more, as well as a big delay in your travel.

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    True that. Several years back, I was driving on a 55 mph road that drops to 45 through a small town (and a known speed trap) I got an alert on my Valentine and checked my speedo, and I was a few miles over. Sure enough I was pulled over. The officer lectured me harshly that "45 means 45, not 46, not 47 and not 48." That's a direct quote. He got me doing 47. He let me go with a verbal warning.

    At the time, I was driving my Honda S2000. A little car type profiling perhaps?
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    at 47 mph over , it would have been a no point ticket to you and giving you the ticket would have cost the municipality more money than they would make, so I would have dared him to write you the ticket :D
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    Quote Originally Posted by palmerwmd View Post
    at 47 mph over , it would have been a no point ticket tpo you and giivng you the ticket would have cost the municipality more money than they would make, so I would have dared him to write you the ticket :D
    "47 mph over"

    Most of these towns now add court costs to the fine, so you basically pay the whole freight. So even if they don't get a real fine of any kind, they still get the money to support the courts and cops.

    The last ticket I got was n a small suburb, and I applied for and got Defensive Driving. The (online) course cost me $50, and the town got "court costs" of $150 - even though I never saw a courtroom. $200 to keep a ticket off my record.

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    In some states it is illgale for the total assorted fines to exceed the actual value of the ticket.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike_TX View Post
    "47 mph over"
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    Not quite 47 over; it was 2 (yes TWO) mph over the 45 mph limit. He got me on his radar doing 47 mph and actually pulled me over. Problem was, I already had one previous deferred adjudication in the county for 10 mph over, which was about 18 months into its 2 year life-cycle. (I couldn't help myself for that first one. I had just zaino'd it and it was extra slippery and NEEDED to go fast ).

    If I'd actually gotten something on record for the 2 mile over infraction, the deferred adjudication would cease to be and there would be two hits on my record.

    And no, I didn't 'dare' the officer to write a ticket. My MO in these situations is to be polite and courteous, even if they're not.
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    I drive to Las Vegas all the time.

    It is going to be difficult to drive 70 in a 70.

    As long as I am not the fastest on the road, I am probably OK.
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