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    2013 Cadillac XTS and 2014 CTS

    The Cadillac XTS is still relatively a brand new model in the line-up that's supposedly aimed to compete with mid level luxury/performance sedans like the E, 5, A6, GS, M etc. Once the CTS goes on sale this fall, where does that put the XTS??? The CTS is actually the true competitor for this segment. So does that push the XTS to compete with the TL, and ES etc where it should be, because it's definitely not a LS, S, 7 A8, XJ fighter??? Cadillac's strategy is a bit baffling at this point. Can anyone shed some light on this?

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    Mmm, the XTS isn't going to be a competitor to the TL or ES ... it's a $50-65k car, and definitely aimed higher upmarket than those cars. Don't let the FWD fool you - this is intended to be a direct competitor to the 5-series BMW, E-class Merc, Audi A6, Infiniti M, etc. - especially the AWD version.

    The CTS is bigger than the outgoing car, but it needed to grow - it was almost a little tight for the market in which it was playing. Now it's a true mid-sizer.

    Cadillac's strategy is apparently NOT to compete head to head with other cars in their size class. They intend to position themselves above everyone else in class, or you might say to create new classes.
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    I think I read somewhere that the XTS as it is was kind of a stop gap car. I'm thinking in its next iteration it will make the leap to fully compete with the S, 7, A8, XJ and so on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NissLover View Post
    I think I read somewhere that the XTS as it is was kind of a stop gap car. I'm thinking in its next iteration it will make the leap to fully compete with the S, 7, A8, XJ and so on.
    Not much in the auto world would surprise me, but keep in mind the XTS is an amalgamation of the former DTS (which was formerly the DeVille)and STS (which was the former Seville). GM decided the DTS was a bit large for the modern era, and since it still had a loyal (mature) following, they didn't want to axe it. But a smaller DTS would bump into the STS, so the solution was to fold them both into one car - and the XTS was born.

    But that created a conundrum for Cadillac ... exactly what is it? The XTS is a kind of "tweener" car by default ... too small to be a barge and too big to be a sport sedan. So the people at GM just give it its own designation ... sort of an intermediate sporty-luxury grand touring whatever-you-want-it-to-be car.

    In my opinion, it falls right in with the new 2014 Acura RLX, as well as the Audi A8 and a couple of other cars of that ilk - both in terms of size and price point. It's an attractive car, and I'll bet it does well.
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    You meant the A6 not the A8 I assume? The A8 is a much larger car. The XTS is much more narrow than the Deville. To me the XTS is a marginally wider, stretched CTS with more technology built in. The CTS is large for its segment and the XTS is similar dimensionally to other mid-sizers with more rear seat leg room and a larger trunk. The STS was a cramped mid-sizer with its large seats and design. So it seems nothing from the US will play in the true large car market. Interestingly though, the XTS has a shorter wheelbase than the CTS although it is 10 inches longer.

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    Yes, the XTS is kind of a puzzler in ways. It's hard to slot it because if you use size it fits in one class, and if you use price it fits into another class. And if you use target market, it might fit in another one.

    That's why I say Cadillac is trying to create a new "class" ... a bit smaller, but more luxurious (and expensive). Unless things change, it is Cadillac's biggest car - smaller than the old DTS for sure, but maybe more reasonable for today's market.
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    Let's do GM model coding. You add the semicolons or exclamation points or whatever your programming language uses

    STS + DTS = XTS
    Century + Regal = LaCrosse
    LeSabre + Park Avenue = gone
    Grand Prix + Bonneville = G8; then Pontiac + Oldsmobile = gone

    Let's do GM market share math now ...
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