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  1. #1

    Q80 should= S-class

    IF Merc uses Nissan HYBRID system?
    Infiniti should take a page from this article!


    New S-Class To Come In Many Hybrid Flavors, Including Plug-In






    Mercedes-Benz is on the eve of launching a new generation of its new flagship sedan, the S-Class, and has announced this new generation will be available in different hybrid versions.
    As with every generation before it, customers expect the new S-Class to set standards across the board to retain its accolade as “the best automobile in the world”.
    In its first year the new S-Class line-up features two hybrid versions, a gasoline model and a diesel variant: S 400 HYBRID, S 500, S 350 BlueTEC and S 300 BlueTEC HYBRID.
    Mercedes said all models boast class-leading efficiency and up to 20 percent lower fuel consumption than the outgoing model series. All the engines already meet the requirements of the Euro-6 emissions standard.
    In addition to this, the S 400 HYBRID and S 350 BlueTEC meet the strict criteria of efficiency class A, while the S 300 BlueTEC HYBRID even has an A+ rating.
    “The new S-Class achieves consumption and emissions figures that only a few years ago seemed utopian, even for executive cars,” says Prof. Thomas Weber, member of the Daimler Board of Management responsible for Group Research and Head of Mercedes-Benz Cars Development. “And this is just the start of our ‘Green Leadership’ initiative: soon to be followed by the S 500 Plug-In HYBRID – the first S-Class with a fuel consumption lower than four liters per 100 kilometers (58.80 mpg).”
    The S-Class line-up therefore includes the full range from gasoline and diesel models to gasoline, diesel and plug-in hybrids for the first time.
    The S 300 BlueTEC HYBRID is set to show the way aerodynamically with a cd figure of 0.23 thanks to additional aerodynamic optimization measures.
    The first ever car without a single light bulb
    100 years or so after the introduction of electric lighting in motor vehicles, Mercedes-Benz is now making a complete switch to LED technology – the new S-Class is the first vehicle in the world whose interior and exterior do without a single light bulb.
    The lighting’s multi-level functionality is another world first: out of consideration for any road users behind, the intensity of the brake lights is reduced at night or while waiting at traffic lights. Almost 500 LEDs illuminate the road, the vehicle, the interior and the trunk.
    Depending on equipment, these include:

    • Headlamps: each with up to 56 LEDs
    • Tail lights: each with up to 35 LEDs (plus 4 for the rear fog lamp)
    • Interior (including ambient lighting): approx. 300 LEDs

    Visibility is enhanced by two assistance systems that have undergone some key improvements – Adaptive Highbeam Assist Plus and Night View Assist Plus. Thanks to a new stereo camera and multistage radar sensors, the S-Class has 360-degree all-round vision and detects potential dangers on the road better.

    http://www.hybridcars.com/new-s-clas...uding-plug-in/

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    Mercedes-Benz launches new S-Class with hybrid, diesel, gasoline models; 59 mpg PHEV model to come

    16 May 2013

    New S 400 HYBRID. Click to enlarge.
    Mercedes-Benz’s new generation flagship S-Class, introduced at an elaborate event at Airbus in Finkenwerder, marks a number of technology firsts in numerous areas from comfort, to driver control, to efficiency. As one example of the last, the new S-Class is the first car in the world to completely dispense with conventional electric bulbs, making exclusive use of energy-saving LED technology both inside and outside.
    On a larger efficiency scale, the new S-Class in its first year will offer two hybrid versions, a gasoline model and a diesel variant: the S 400 HYBRID, S 300 BlueTEC HYBRID, S 500, and S 350 BlueTEC. The models offer up to 20% lower fuel consumption than the outgoing model series. These soon will be followed by the S 500 Plug-In HYBRID—the first S-Class with a fuel consumption lower than 4l/100 km (59 mpg US). All the engines already meet the requirements of the Euro-6 emissions standard.
    S 300 BlueTEC HYBRID. Mercedes-Benz has almost halved fuel consumption in the 150 kW output category within ten years: the S 300 BlueTEC HYBRID has a combined fuel consumption of 4.4 l/100 km (53.5 mpg US) (CO2: 115 g/km).
    In the S 300 BlueTEC HYBRID, Mercedes-Benz has combined the 2.2-liter four-cylinder diesel engine developing 150 kW (204 hp) with a hybrid module. Its 15 kW electric motor, positioned between the internal combustion engine and the 7-speed automatic transmission, assists the diesel engine when the car is accelerating (boost effect) and, in alternator mode, is used for the recuperation of braking energy, although it is also suitable for driving under electric power alone.
    S 350 BlueTEC. The V6 diesel engine in the S 350 BlueTEC has a displacement of 2987 cc, an output of 190 kW (258 hp) and torque of 620 N·m (457 lb-ft). Its combined fuel consumption of 5.5 or 5.6 litres per 100 kilometers (short/long wheelbase versions) (42.8 or 42 mpg US) makes it the world’s most economical V6 diesel and puts it on a par with the previous four-cylinder S 250 CDI model.
    The S 350 BlueTEC has CO2 emissions of 146 or 148 grams per kilometer (short/long wheelbase versions), and it is equipped with the second-generation AdBlue emission-control system.
    S 400 HYBRID. With the hybrid model, which combines a V6 gasoline engine with a compact hybrid module and Li-ion battery pack, the Mercedes‑Benz engineers have delivered NEDC (combined) fuel consumption of 6.3 liters per 100 kilometres (37.3 mpg US)—a reduction of 20% compared to the preceding model. The CO2 emissions figure of 147 grams per kilometre is likewise a new record in this vehicle segment.
    The gasoline engine develops 225 kW (306 hp) and the electric motor adds another 20 kW. The peak torque is 370 N·m (272 lb-ft). The compact hybrid module is a disc-shaped electric motor that also acts as a starter and generator.
    The S 400 HYBRID accelerates from 0 to 100 km/h in 6.8 seconds and reaches an electronically limited top speed of 250 km/h (155 mph).
    S 500. The V8 biturbo unit in the S 500 has a displacement of 4663 cc and an output of 335 kW (455 hp)—making it more powerful than its 320 kW (435 hp) predecessor. Its peak torque is 700 N·m (516 lb-ft), while NEDC fuel consumption is 8.6 liters per 100 km (27.4 mpg US)—0.7 liters per 100 km lower than its predecessor. CO2 emissions are 199 g/km.
    The S 500 sprints from zero to 100 km/h in 4.8 seconds. Its top speed is 250 km/h (electronically limited).
    All new S-Class models feature the 7G-TRONIC PLUS automatic transmission with DIRECT SELECT lever as standard. The features of this latest version include a new torque converter with reduced slip; an ECO shift mode with a wider ratio spread; and an auxiliary oil pump to maintain the operating pressure during automatic stops. Low-friction components and low-viscosity oil help to reduce the operating pressure.
    ECO start/stop function and ECO display. The consumption and emission figures are also due to the ECO start/stop function specified as standard for all S-Class models.
    One of the features that assists the driver is the ECO display in the instrument cluster. If required, three bar charts give the driver feedback about the economy of their driving style. The ECO display responds positively if the driver accelerates moderately, drives smoothly in an anticipatory manner and avoids unnecessary braking. The three bar readings stand at 100% if driving is particularly economical according to these criteria. When starting off all the values are at 50%, and a particularly unfavorable driving style causes them to decline. The aim is to arouse a competitive desire in the driver to achieve 100% if possible.
    Further efficiency-enhancing measures include aerodynamics; intelligent lightweight construction; second-generation low-rolling-resistance tires; an electronically controlled refrigerant compressor; and the new “ECO Thermo Cover” engine compartment encapsulation in the S 300 BlueTEC HYBRID, which reduces cold-starting losses and consists of insulating partitions in the engine compartment and the radiator shutter, which closes when the engine is stopped.
    Suspension with “eyes”. The new S-Class is the first car to be able to detect bumps on the road ahead. If ROAD SURFACE SCAN detects such unevenness by means of the stereo camera, MAGIC BODY CONTROL instantaneously sets up the suspension to deal with the new situation. This innovative suspension system is available as an option for the eight-cylinder models. Standard equipment for the new S-Class includes the continuously operating Adaptive Damping System ADS PLUS and an enhanced version of the full air suspension system AIRMATIC.
    3rd-generation aluminum hybrid bodyshell. The bodyshell for the new S-Class is a third-generation aluminium hybrid bodyshell. The lightweight index—the torsional stiffness in relation to weight and vehicle size—has been improved by 50% compared to the predecessor model.
    Since the 220 model series was developed in the 1990s, with an optimally coordinated materials mix the hybrid lightweight construction has been further developed into an aluminium hybrid bodyshell. During this period the share of aluminium has increased to more than 50%. Mercedes-Benz has thus maintained practically the same body weight for 20 years—and even slightly reduced it—despite far more stringent comfort and safety requirements and additional functions.
    In addition to this, structural foams are used at specific points in node areas in the new model series. The entire outer skin of the S-Class, including the roof and the front section of the body, consists of aluminium. The high percentage of aluminium is possible due to the use of a complete range of semi-finished products (casting, extrusion, sheet metal). The safety passenger cell is made using an extremely high percentage of high-strength steel.
    With a torsional stiffness of 40.5 kN/degree (predecessor: 27.5 kN/degree), the S-Class achieves a new record in its segment.
    Extended PRE-SAFE protection. The new PRE-SAFE functions can help to prevent collisions with pedestrians and vehicles in front in city traffic, defuse dangerous situations caused by traffic behind and enhance the protection offered by the seat belts.

    • PRE-SAFE Brake can also detect pedestrians and initiate autonomous braking to avoid a collision at speeds up to 50 km/h (31 mpg US).
    • PRE-SAFE PLUS can recognize an imminent rear-end collision and warn the following traffic by activating the rear hazard warning lights at a high frequency. If the danger of a collision persists, the system can also firmly apply the stationary vehicle’s brakes and thus minimise the risk of whiplash injuries by reducing the forward jolt caused by the impact. This additionally can reduce the risk of secondary accidents. Immediately before impact, the PRE-SAFE anticipatory occupant protection measures, especially the reversible belt tensioners, are deployed.
    • With PRE-SAFE Impulse, the driver and front passenger are pulled away from the direction of impact by their seat belts at an early phase of the crash before the resulting occupant deceleration sets in. This can substantially reduce the risk and severity of injuries in a frontal collision.

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    Intelligent Drive. Mercedes-Benz is deploying numerous new assistance systems and greatly enhanced safety functions in the new S-Class. The new functions all rely on the same sensor system, comprising a new stereo camera together with multistage radar sensors. A key factor is the networking of all systems—i.e., sensor fusion.
    The support functions range from relieving the burden on the driver and therefore increasing comfort, to issuing visual, acoustic and/or tactile warning signals, to boosting the driver’s reactions. Some systems are able to take corrective action in an emergency, such as autonomous application of the brakes to prevent an accident or lessen its severity. New assistance systems and those with notably enhanced functionality include:

    • DISTRONIC PLUS with Steering Assist and Stop&Go Pilot takes the burden off the driver when it comes to lane guidance and is also able to follow vehicles in traffic jams automatically.
    • For the first time, due to the stereo camera, the Brake Assist system BAS PLUS with Cross-Traffic Assist is able to detect crossing traffic and pedestrians too, and to boost the braking power applied by the driver accordingly.
    • If the lane markings are broken lines, Active Lane Keeping Assist can detect when the adjacent lane is occupied, especially by oncoming traffic, and reduce the risk of the vehicle leaving its lane unintentionally by applying the brakes on one side.
    • Adaptive Highbeam Assist Plus allows the high-beam headlamps to be kept on permanently without dazzling traffic by masking out other vehicles in the beams’ cone of light.
    • Night View Assist Plus was further improved and supplemented by a thermal imaging camera. Night View Assist Plus can alert the driver to the potential danger posed by pedestrians or animals in unlit areas in front of the vehicle by automatically switching from the speedometer to a sharp night view image and highlighting the sources of danger. A spotlight function is furthermore able to flash any pedestrians detected ahead. This attracts the driver’s attention to the source of the danger at the same time as warning the person on the side of the road.
    • ATTENTION ASSIST can warn of inattentiveness and drowsiness in an extended speed range and notify the driver of their current state of fatigue and the driving time since the last break, offers an adjustable sensitivity setting and, if a warning is emitted, indicates nearby service areas in the COMAND navigation system.

      http://www.greencarcongress.com/2013...-20130516.html

  4. #4
    Sounds like Nissan system


    " Its 15 kW electric motor, positioned between the internal combustion engine and the 7-speed automatic transmission, assists the diesel engine when the car is accelerating (boost effect) and, in alternator mode, is used for the recuperation of braking energy, although it is also suitable for driving under electric power alone. "

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    This car is so friggin' beautiful Mr. Bigglesworth!









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    Personally I think this car has gone too far. Looks good, and I'm sure it rides good as well. Just too many toys that will never get used. They also like to pretend that this is their tech, but Nissan has a ton to do with this. They may have made it better though. At the end of the day though most of the extras are useless. Give me one, I'll drive it. Other than that, the tech they are trying to sell will be an issue at some point in time. This endless pursuit of stupid expense is ridiculous. The guy in the back seat in comfort should care less about tech. Good ride, speed, nice radio, tis enough.

  8. #8
    I agree, way too much stuff that will never really et used. I'm probably not the norm, but 90% of the time it's just me in the car, 9% is me + the wife and 1% of the time there are backseat passengers.
    Even if you use it to ferry the kiddies around, do they really need a recliner seat ?
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  9. #9
    Quote Originally Posted by Indemand View Post
    Personally I think this car has gone too far. Looks good, and I'm sure it rides good as well. Just too many toys that will never get used. They also like to pretend that this is their tech, but Nissan has a ton to do with this. They may have made it better though. At the end of the day though most of the extras are useless. Give me one, I'll drive it. Other than that, the tech they are trying to sell will be an issue at some point in time. This endless pursuit of stupid expense is ridiculous. The guy in the back seat in comfort should care less about tech. Good ride, speed, nice radio, tis enough.
    Haven't you heard? Greed is good. Shut up and embrace the Reaganomics.

    I totally agree with your thesis, despite my love for this car. It's beyond excessive, yes. I appreciate that they actually could achieve this, and the quality appears to be the best I've seen (time will tell long-term). This is, as opposed to the W220 disaster back when I came of age, a fully realized S. I really like the styling too. It's as if the CLS was cleaned up and luxofied.

    Nissan's hand in their "exclusive" tech is delicious, because it means that Nissan is going to give us Infinitis with supposed "MB" tech in the near term. Maybe not AMG engines, but chassis and suspension tech similar to the new S-class? That could really propel the next Q70 and proposed Q90 to the next level.
    Last edited by JayG35; 05-17-2013 at 10:50 PM.

  10. #10

    R nissan/Infiniti motors/transmissions that bad?

    Mercedes S-Class Plug-in Hybrid revealed in new patent photos

    Could be called the S500 Hybrid Plus

    The Mercedes S-Class Plug-in Hybrid is inching closer to production as the company has begun filing patents for the model.
    Set to be called the S500 Hybrid Plus, the model has a familiar design but is distinguished by a revised grille, a new exhaust system and a modified rear bumper with a charging port.
    Under the hood, we can expect a 3.5-liter V6 engine and a 109 HP (80 kW) electric motor that is powered by a lithium-ion battery. Nothing is official, but speculation suggests the car could have a fuel consumption rating of roughly 3 L/100km (78.4 mpg US / 94.1 mpg UK).
    The Mercedes S500 Hybrid Plus is expected to be launched sometime next year and cost less than €100,000.



    Source: Auto Motor und Sport



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