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    Thought-provoking video about welfare

    Warning: This guy is what I'd call a conservative or libertarian, but he makes a lot of sense, and I enjoy watching his videos.


    If someone blows up a school with a bomb they go after the bomber ... if someone shoots up a school they go after the gun.

    A privilege is just a right that has been taken away by government.

    Political correctness is cowardice wrapped in a lie.
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    Ok then. I get what he is saying and he is right but he doesn't offer a fix. What is the fix? As part of this I would like to remind everybody that we are all dependent on others for an income. So how do you go from something completely out of whack to something which may make sense again?

    What should be the role of government and what should not it be? Especially in our greedier world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Indemand View Post
    Ok then. I get what he is saying and he is right but he doesn't offer a fix. What is the fix? As part of this I would like to remind everybody that we are all dependent on others for an income. So how do you go from something completely out of whack to something which may make sense again?

    What should be the role of government and what should not it be? Especially in our greedier world.
    Good questions. The clip didn't include the finish his talk, so i don't know what he suggested as a cure. We have different opinions on the role of government in this situation, but it has been shown time and time again that the welfare state doesn't work.

    We're slipping into a real crisis ... only a 63% Workforce Participation Rate (63% of the country's working age population is employed), which translates to 98 million people out of the workforce. 47 million people are on food stamps, for goodness sakes, and around a third of the country is on some form of government aid! That's sad.

    We need to get people off welfare and back to work. Just imagine the productivity and goods production we could have if we got 98 million people working again. The economy would explode and our standard of living would rise. But once you give people something free, it's damn near impossible to stop it. It's like a drug. So, the government is going to have to man up and start putting the brakes on welfare, while encouraging the creation of jobs.

    If I were President, some of the things I'd do are the following:

    - Rebuild our core industries: Steel, coal, minerals, etc., which have been decimated. Use tax incentives, private/public partnerships, loans, or whatever is required. This is vital.
    - Begin weaning people off welfare with good jobs, income tax incentives, etc., and using TV, social media and other public media to encourage work and discourage welfare.
    - Aggressively go after and prosecute welfare fraud, and make welfare less attractive and profitable.
    - Consolidate the welfare agencies to stop people from double-and triple-dipping on the various programs, and cut down on the number of programs.
    - Stop illegal immigration, so more jobs can go to Americans.
    - Hold and encourage job fairs, hiring drives, and other means of getting the jobs to the people.
    - Fast-track and facilitate projects like the Keystone Pipeline, the rebuilding of the country's infrastructure, the building of the border wall, etc., to create jobs.
    - Reduce taxes and regulatory burdens on businesses, so they can more easily grow and create jobs.
    - Reform the Small Business Administration, to make it easier for entrepreneurs to start businesses and hire people.
    - Encourage the agricultural and ranching industries with grants, tax credits and other incentives.


    I'm okay with the government doing things to encourage growth and jobs creation, such as eliminating restrictions and regulations, and even using tools like tax abatements and grants when there is a good case for them. But there has to be a firewall between assistance and control. The country's business and industry needs a jumpstart, and we need the workforce that's now in bed to wake up and go to work. The vast untapped labor force in the U. S. needs to have the opportunity to show the world what an industrial powerhouse we can be.
    If someone blows up a school with a bomb they go after the bomber ... if someone shoots up a school they go after the gun.

    A privilege is just a right that has been taken away by government.

    Political correctness is cowardice wrapped in a lie.
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    Alright I'm with you. My plan:

    1. Decide what we need to make for ourselves and what should be outsourced. (We need to put people back to work. Whether we make socks or widgets we have to get people back to work making some of our basic commodities. Cost is not an option. The benefit to the greater good is more important. But I do want better socks.

    2. We need universal healthcare and universal retirement. We need to take these functions away from business which are often hit and miss. Neither needs to be free but it should be a shared cost for society. Youngster pays the same as everyone at every other age. True insurance.

    3. We need to x-out many of the monopolies we have created over the years and make business fair. (Thinking mostly utilities having way too much control) I'd personally eliminate Uber and Amazon. We need to be careful about what we allow internet companies to do. The end result of their takeover probably won't be good.

    To me the bottom line is once we get people back to work most of our other problems go away. It has to be country first over anything else. And we do need to eliminate the welfare state. But don't ***** at those people until we have something for them.

    Lastly stop taking advantage of the elderly whom have worked hard their entire life. They deserve better. Give them a decent monthly and stop forcing them to go to soup kitchens and using food stamps. Talking mostly Medicare cuts which are just not right. If you actually worked hard your hole life and need Section 8, food stamps, etc. something is wrong.

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    Hey, we're getting somewhere!

    I would only caution you that you've mixed healthcare and insurance. Healthcare is going to the doctor or hospital to get treatment. Insurance is ONE device for paying for your healthcare. Two very different things.

    Requiring everyone to buy insurance is not a legitimate function of government, and goodness know we don't want the government running our healthcare system, either!

    The harsh truth is that ever since the Earth cooled off there have been people who provide for themselves and people who don't. I honestly believe God purposely made us that way. Fortunately for them, people who don't provide for themselves have a number of safety nets, including churches, charities, family, etc. But having government take care of them is the slippery slope we're sliding down right now. While it feels warm and fuzzy to take care of everyone for all their lives, government-provided wages, housing, and healthcare is socialism, and we've seen where that leads.

    I think too many people have forgotten that government is nothing more than some people we sent to Washington to do some work for us. And the only money government has is money they've taken from you and me. We've given these people too much power and too much money, and they've been doing a really bad job of managing both.
    If someone blows up a school with a bomb they go after the bomber ... if someone shoots up a school they go after the gun.

    A privilege is just a right that has been taken away by government.

    Political correctness is cowardice wrapped in a lie.
    ________________________________

    2013 Acura RDX Tech, 30% tints, hardwired Escort 8500 X50

    2011 Infiniti M56, 30% ceramic tint, hard-wired Escort 8500 X50, LED cabin and trunk lighting - traded!


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    ^^^ this x2 !
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