The Nissan and Infiniti Enthusiasts Site
Results 1 to 16 of 16

Thread: A month with the 2017 Altima

  1. #1

    A month with the 2017 Altima

    For the past month I've had an Enterprise Car Rentals 2017 Altima SV 2.5-liter 4-cylinder, while my own car is in the shop for collision repair. Here's some observations about the car (purely my own opinions):

    When I picked up the car it had 13,000 miles on it. It's at 17,000 now. In addition to my own routine driving, I drove it to Phoenix, AZ from the Dallas/Ft. Worth area and back. It has been my daily driver now for a month. My wife had a 2014 Altima for 3 years, but I seldom drove it with the exception of another round trip to Phoenix. So this car was familiar to me in terms of performance, ergonomics, etc.

    Pros:

    - The car gets good mileage in town. It's not hard to register 25.5-26 mpg without trying.
    - It uses Regular gas, which nets you a 30-cent a gallon advantage in my area. More in other areas.
    - The ride is smooth and compliant, with very few hard bump impulses making it into the structure or the cabin.
    - Visibility is good from the driver's seat.
    - The trunk is large.
    - The seats are reasonably comfortable, although not as much as expected, given the "zero-gravity" thing.
    - Brakes are good, with good feel.

    Cons:

    - Highway mileage is okay, but not stellar. 35 mpg is achievable, but only under optimal conditions. 32-33 is more common, and that's lower than the competition.
    - The lower steering wheel housing is large and intrusive, and makes getting in and out of the car awkward.
    - The car is loud at highway speeds, in spite of the higher-end Continental tires. Tire and road noise is excessive.
    - The engine is sluggish, and feels like yesterday's technology.
    - Handling is so-so, probably as a result of the bias toward a good ride at lower speeds. Too much lean and sway in curves and turns.
    - The turning radius is huge, and requires some re-training to adapt to it.
    - CVT. Nuff said. More on that below.


    The CVT:

    I have no doubt the CVT is responsible for the good mileage in-town, but it pays a big penalty in terms of performance. I found myself longing for a good solid downshift when I needed a surge of power, and I wondered to myself what this car would feel like with a conventional transmission.

    The weak engine contributed to this situation by sadly moaning when the accelerator was buried, and not delivering needed power.

    There is an OD (overdrive) off switch on the side of the shifter knob, but all it seems to do is make the engine race out of proportion to the road speed (although I found it somewhat useful as an engine brake when slowing from higher speeds).

    I strongly suspect Mr. Ghosn championed the CVT to satisfy EPA and CAFE mileage standards, rather than for any kind of performance reasons. And in my opinion, the CVT sucks the soul right out of the car and takes away any possible driving enjoyment. It makes the car into an appliance rather than a driver's machine.
    If someone blows up a school with a bomb they go after the bomber ... if someone shoots up a school they go after the gun.

    A privilege is just a right that has been taken away by government.

    Political correctness is cowardice wrapped in a lie.
    ________________________________

    2013 Acura RDX Tech, 30% tints, hardwired Escort 8500 X50

    2011 Infiniti M56, 30% ceramic tint, hard-wired Escort 8500 X50, LED cabin and trunk lighting - traded!


  2. #2
    Don't think the car was ever supposed 2 b a driver's machine lol. I've had my 2016 altima for 6 weeks now and my average mpg is higher than your hwy mpg. Do you set the cruise for 85mph? That's the only way I can see 33mpg hwy and that's if no one else is on the toad. The higher end tire is the Michelin primacy tire that I have on my SL. It's a quiet ride. Even my passengers commented on how quiet it was inside. I have a few videos up of the car on my YouTu be that I haven't made public but i think the cvt is much more refined than b4. Usually Rpms start matching road speed if u start pushing it past 2800rpm now

  3. #3
    Also my last few hwy trips has been 38-41mpg without driving below 65mph.

  4. #4
    lol. I didn't say Ultimate Driving Machine. I just meant a machine that people like me might enjoy driving. I personally don't find anything enjoyable about this car, but i did try to point out some pros along with the cons.

    I can't imagine how you're getting mid-30's in town. On the highway, I drive 3-4 mph over the speed limit. And during the 3 years my wife owned hers, we never saw over about 36-37 on the highway, and that was with a tailwind. This car is spot on with hers.

    But as I said a couple of times, this is just my opinion.
    If someone blows up a school with a bomb they go after the bomber ... if someone shoots up a school they go after the gun.

    A privilege is just a right that has been taken away by government.

    Political correctness is cowardice wrapped in a lie.
    ________________________________

    2013 Acura RDX Tech, 30% tints, hardwired Escort 8500 X50

    2011 Infiniti M56, 30% ceramic tint, hard-wired Escort 8500 X50, LED cabin and trunk lighting - traded!


  5. #5
    Senior Administrator palmerwmd's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2002
    Location
    Maryland
    Posts
    13,882
    Mike thanks for the review!

    Rennie please post up those vids!!!!

    As for mpg on Highways.. with my 2014 (exact same car drive train except the aerodynamics are slightly better on the 2016 +s )I always got approx 40mpg when driving easy.. when hypermiling I was at 42/43, when hiway driving as I felt like 37/38 mpg

    I like this generation Altima quite a bit especially the huge unrefuelled range..
    When I added a Stillen rear sway bar it was a complete makeover in handling.. no more wallowing in fast sweepers.

    Sorry you cant warm up to the car.

    I will say tho the switchgear was definitely downmarket in feel from a Maxima ( as it probaly should be)
    "In the end we all just play the roles given us... Sometimes they dont fit so well,... but I guess we make do."

    Dont forget MultiMedia forums!!
    http://www.freshalloy.com/forumdisplay.php/55-Multi-Media-Forum

    2x91,92,94 Q45s, 2x 350Z, 1x 240SX w/ SR20DET, 1x Sentra SER SPEC-V, 2k2 Maxima, 2x03 G35, 09 Maxima, 2k2 Maxima, 2015 XTerra, 2005 Xterra, 2012 Pathfinder,

  6. #6
    I made a video just for you LOL just now. You might not have fun in it but I do!. I actually find it quite enjoyable

  7. #7

  8. #8
    Mike's review is fair and addresses most of my criticisms of the car. The only thing I found surprising was the compaint of interior noise levels. I found our 5th gen Altima 2.5S rentals (we've had several since 2013) to be very quiet under most conditions, including highway speeds. Not as quiet as a modern Benz or Lexus mind you, but on-par with an older Infiniti or my E39 BMW (more sport than luxury, I know).

    The QR is looking very dated now and the handling is a bit too soft, though I do appreciate the plush ride. I agree that these details need to be seriously reworked in the next generation Altima. The CVT really needs to go as well. It's fuel efficient, and decently reliable depending on which model year you buy (this is CRITICAL, stay away from the first two years of Altima redesigns!), but I just cannot stand its numb dynamics and the fact that, should it fail, it's off to the dealer for a new transmission. NOPE.

    My 3rd gen Altimas are louder, have more cheap plastic in the interiors, and don't get the fuel economy of the current ones. But they are more fun to drive, reliable as hell if you stay on top of rust issues, and give you all the practicality and style of the newer ones. Oh, and you can get an 05 or 06 3.5 Altima in immaculate condition for $5,000.

    I'll be passing on newer Altimas for cheap commuters until they get rid of the CVTs. Hey, Ghosn isn't running the brand anymore-- maybe it could happen soon!

  9. #9
    Senior Administrator palmerwmd's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2002
    Location
    Maryland
    Posts
    13,882
    Quote Originally Posted by rennie4 View Post
    Thanks!

    At first it wouldn't work for me but now it does..
    See that 38.7 mpg too
    "In the end we all just play the roles given us... Sometimes they dont fit so well,... but I guess we make do."

    Dont forget MultiMedia forums!!
    http://www.freshalloy.com/forumdisplay.php/55-Multi-Media-Forum

    2x91,92,94 Q45s, 2x 350Z, 1x 240SX w/ SR20DET, 1x Sentra SER SPEC-V, 2k2 Maxima, 2x03 G35, 09 Maxima, 2k2 Maxima, 2015 XTerra, 2005 Xterra, 2012 Pathfinder,

  10. #10
    I managed 2 get a 41.7 mpg average on my last tank of gas and that included a trip in and out of nyc and a huuuge traffic jam 1 day!

  11. #11
    Wow! That might be a new record!
    If someone blows up a school with a bomb they go after the bomber ... if someone shoots up a school they go after the gun.

    A privilege is just a right that has been taken away by government.

    Political correctness is cowardice wrapped in a lie.
    ________________________________

    2013 Acura RDX Tech, 30% tints, hardwired Escort 8500 X50

    2011 Infiniti M56, 30% ceramic tint, hard-wired Escort 8500 X50, LED cabin and trunk lighting - traded!


  12. #12
    8Of mixed driving it might be my highest record for a whole tank. My highest highway drive is 42. The 1st day I was at 49mpg after 170 miles when I went 2 nyc. It was in the evening and I kept close 2 the speed limit. The rest of the week was going 2 work hard meaning 75-80 mph but going home slow around 60 mph but the speed limit is usually between 55-65. I also took a few trips to the gym(13min drive).
    Last edited by rennie4; 06-27-2017 at 01:48 PM.

  13. #13
    Senior Administrator palmerwmd's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2002
    Location
    Maryland
    Posts
    13,882
    The Altimas mpg are amazing!
    "In the end we all just play the roles given us... Sometimes they dont fit so well,... but I guess we make do."

    Dont forget MultiMedia forums!!
    http://www.freshalloy.com/forumdisplay.php/55-Multi-Media-Forum

    2x91,92,94 Q45s, 2x 350Z, 1x 240SX w/ SR20DET, 1x Sentra SER SPEC-V, 2k2 Maxima, 2x03 G35, 09 Maxima, 2k2 Maxima, 2015 XTerra, 2005 Xterra, 2012 Pathfinder,

  14. #14
    CVT brings back childhood memories for me ...............................

    JMG-GW-050-1.jpg
    2016 Challenger Hellcat, Max Steel/Black - A8 trans, Navi, Carbon Fiber Stripes

    2009 G37 Convertible - Athens Blue/Bone - Premium, Sport, Navi

    2003.5 G35s Caribbean Blue - Premium, Wood, Spoiler

    2016 Mustang GT Premium, Guard/Ebony - Roush SuperCharger & loads more ** Lemon Lawed @ 1200 miles
    2009 M45s - Black Obsidian/Graphite - Sport, Tech, Advanced Tech, Wood, Spoiler ** GONE !
    2007 Titan LE Crew - Deep Water Blue - ** GONE
    2002 Q45 Desert Platinum - Sport & Sunshade Pkg ** GONE !

  15. #15
    Wow, I spent lots of hours playing with those!!
    If someone blows up a school with a bomb they go after the bomber ... if someone shoots up a school they go after the gun.

    A privilege is just a right that has been taken away by government.

    Political correctness is cowardice wrapped in a lie.
    ________________________________

    2013 Acura RDX Tech, 30% tints, hardwired Escort 8500 X50

    2011 Infiniti M56, 30% ceramic tint, hard-wired Escort 8500 X50, LED cabin and trunk lighting - traded!


  16. #16
    LOL, yeah me too ! Cool that they are still available & kids still play with them !
    2016 Challenger Hellcat, Max Steel/Black - A8 trans, Navi, Carbon Fiber Stripes

    2009 G37 Convertible - Athens Blue/Bone - Premium, Sport, Navi

    2003.5 G35s Caribbean Blue - Premium, Wood, Spoiler

    2016 Mustang GT Premium, Guard/Ebony - Roush SuperCharger & loads more ** Lemon Lawed @ 1200 miles
    2009 M45s - Black Obsidian/Graphite - Sport, Tech, Advanced Tech, Wood, Spoiler ** GONE !
    2007 Titan LE Crew - Deep Water Blue - ** GONE
    2002 Q45 Desert Platinum - Sport & Sunshade Pkg ** GONE !

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •