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    Does the Revolver still have a role as a modern Self defense handgun?

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    For the first time in months I am handling my 4.25 inch GP100 in .357 Magnum.... after taking it out of "storage" I am struck by several things:

    - How beautiful it is.
    - What a piece of mechanical art it is.
    - I remember how incredible accurate it is..
    - But I am also dumbstruck by how heavy it is compared to my full size M&P 9.

    Of course this is a full size revolver.
    It has to be heavy to fire the famous and much loved .357 Magnum cartridge.
    357 Mag is in my very humble opinion the most powerful handgun round that is still practical.

    What do I mean with the last statement?
    Its the most powerful round that you can still train with w/o hurting your wrist in training or introducing training scars due to flinching.

    It's the most powerful round that anyone with a good job can afford to feed with ammo for training .
    Tho .357 Magnum is not cheap 41 Magnum and 44 Magnum etc are more expensive.

    This brings us back to why my 4.25 inch GP100 is so heavy (40 oz the equivalent Smiths are 38 oz)
    It has to be in order to be able to shoot all sorts of loads to include the popular real hot ones for a lifetime.

    At its weight/bulk it will never be a conceal carry gun unless fashion goes back to a time where men wear coats/suits in (almost) any weather..
    This is the kind of firearm thats well served a shoulder holster.

    But I digress.

    So what is the role of the modern revolver?
    Simply a nostalgia item?
    Did revolver makers like Ruger and Smith&Wesson finally break the code to make the perfect revolver at a point in history when this method of handheld firepower is eclipsed?

    Maybe, maybe not.

    Here are the roles in which it still shines IMHO:

    - Nightstand gun...:They are so simple to hold/shoot and so naturally pointable they are perfect for someone half asleep just woken up. Also in court they are a handgun most americans (=potential jurors) are trained to associate with "the good guys"
    - Training gun: They are so simple to operate , they are a great way to introduce new shooters to the sport... Especially since you introduce them not just for the simplicty but also for the stressless fun of this visceral piece of machining.
    - Trail gun: This is still a big niche. A combination of self-defense in the boonies but capable of being loaded with very powerful loads ( that would rip most semi-autos to pieces) to take that occasional piece of mid sized game or fend of a predator that is much tougher than humans.
    - Post Apocalyptic use. No need for concealment.... but the ability to feed it with all sorts of different loads from 38 SPC training loads to the hottest bearloads.. Also if/when we are at a point where professionaly made ammo gets scarce even the poorest handloads are generally still safe if too strong and still function if too weak (since they dont have to rack a slide for you)

    Thoughts?
    "In the end we all just play the roles given us... Sometimes they dont fit so well,... but I guess we make do."

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    Yes indeed it does!
    As a pocket piece, it has no peer except MAYBE a derringer. as it's not pocket lint sensitive and won't jam if you let go while still inside your pocket.
    My bedside has almost NEVER been without my 44 UNTIL I went 357 for health reasons.the revolver is also treated to a wider variety of loads that
    would wreck an auto pistol. [300 grain moose load out of a Red Hawk anyone?) can you pop off a flichette or shot round in an auto? nope. not reliably.
    JIC you want to Let them know you mean "GET OUT OF MY F**KING HOUSE!" before you plant them for keeps.

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    Anybody know if they still make SABOTS for 44/357?
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    I think for the average person, revolvers are are a holdover from the "wild west days". People know they are perfectly functional weapons, but they still think of them like we do the old rotary dial phones or push lawn mowers ... manual, mechanical machines that were supplanted by semi-automatic pistols. To most people, semi-autos are more efficient, they pack more firepower, and they're just more "modern" than revolvers.

    That said, revolvers are perfectly fine handguns, but I personally wouldn't want to have one in a gunfight with a person using a hi-capacity semi-auto.
    If someone blows up a school with a bomb they go after the bomber ... if someone shoots up a school they go after the gun.

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    True, but my 44 can bust cover.
    Am I blessed or possessed?

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    I think the range involved matters also when up against a semi-auto guy.
    A 357 Magnum revolver has a greater effective range than a 9mm mostly due to better accuracy inherent in the revolver design (but also better performance out of the round).

    With a Revolver I can hit a man sized silhouette at 50 yards all day long.. with a Semi auto I top out at 25...
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    Same here with ONE exception. an FEG copy of a Browning Hi power I used to own.that thing was AMAZING!
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