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    Infiniti drops QX70

    Infiniti drops midsize QX70

    NASHVILLE, July 24, 2017 Infiniti has killed its QX70 midsize crossover, effective immediately, as it prepares to shift more attention to other crossovers.
    Dealers have been notified that the nameplate formerly known as Infiniti FX will not be offered in the 2018 model year, a spokesman confirmed.
    Infiniti is banking on a newer product, a redesigned QX50 compact crossover, to play a dominant role over the next two to three years. According to sources outside the company, Infiniti wants to steer marketing and customer attention to the new QX50, which it believes has the potential to become the brand's top-seller.
    But according to the sources, Infiniti is plotting a comeback for the V-6 powered five-seater with a distinctive rear-sloping back end. A replacement crossover will arrive in 2021 or 2022 based on the Nissan Murano, which is built in Canton, Miss.
    The QX70 was a bold design statement when it first appeared as the FX in 2003, and after its design update in 2009. But it is now wedged between crossover and SUV offerings that are being updated with a new look.
    The larger QX80 will receive a svelte new design in the next year or two. And the QX50 which languished for years with low sales and a package too small for most shoppers now has the company's full marketing attention. The redesigned QX50 will be on sale next year.

    http://www.autonews.com/article/2017...utonews-weekly

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    There's no way that they are going to base the next one on the Murano... at least they better not! But as far as them dropping the QX70, someone had mentioned that would happen on another forum and the fact that its only temporarily and not a permanent thing, so things seem to correlate. But yes, I'd rather them completely kill the QX70 versus bringing it back as FWD CVT, because if it's based on the Murano, that's what it will be. That configuration is okay for the QX50, but not the QX70, which should be a true X5/GLE competitor.
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    Current: 2013 Infiniti G37S 6MT Sedan

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    Ok so this was reported by the famous Infiniti insider "Carmaker1" back in May... so there may be some weight behind the whole Murano based stuff... unless he too is AutoNews.com's source, which is what I suspect...

    From Carmaker1:
    I have just privately heard something of a wild card, that the 2018 QX70 has been cancelled (at least in North America) and that of its direct successor. I currently cannot verify this for you by public information, but I can say that I believe it, at least on the production scheduling end. Of all 2018 model year Infiniti products, only the QX70 either shows unavailable, TBD, or N/A.

    However, I find this highly unusual due to the 2017 model year refresh in July 2016 and that of the successor I have been hearing about for quite some time, already getting styling approval. This information came from an individual named R****** that works indirectly for Infiniti USA in sales and directly got this briefing from TN.

    He also tells me, an Infiniti badged Murano may replace it. Looking at the new QX50, I wonder why a FWD QX70 is now being proposed over the now cancelled RWD Cayenne competitor. A rebadged electric Mitsubishi is also being studied for Infinti. Many of these decisions reek of Ghosn's penny pinching and stubborn behaviour, as Saikawa hasn't had much time to affect anything.

    I am asking on the UK end as well, as my contacts at NTCNA are not saying anything, espousing they no information related to QX70, only QX60 and QX50.
    That sux. not the fact that they're dropping it temporarily, but the fact that it will be based on the Murano... that COMPLETELY goes against what the FX/QX70 is. And how will that even work in their hierarchy! The QX60 is a FWD 7-seater, so how is a FWD 5-seater QX70 going to be priced higher than the QX60? It NEEDS to be a sporty RWD and very upscale product to sit between the QX60 and QX80. It cannot do that being based on the Murano. So this makes completely no sense.
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    Former: 2007 Nissan Altima 3.5SE Sedan 6MT [Totaled :( ]
    Current: 2013 Infiniti G37S 6MT Sedan

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    Infiniti & Nissan continue to eliminate the only products in their line-up I would remotely consider buying.
    2016 Challenger Hellcat, Max Steel/Blk - A8 trans, Navi, C Fiber Stripes
    2018 Durango R/T, Vice White/Blk, Tow, Blacktop pkg, Perf Tires
    2017 Honda Accord Touring V6, Basque Red Pearl/Ivory

    GONE:
    2003.5 G35s Caribbean Blue - Prem, Wood, Spoiler
    2009 G37 Vert Athens Blue/Bone - Prem, Sport, Nav
    2016 Mustang GT Prem, Guard/Ebony - Roush SC +++ ** Lmn Law 1200 mi
    2009 M45s Obsidian/Graphite - Sport, Tech, Adv Tech, Wood, Spoiler
    2007 Titan LE Crew Deep Water Blue
    2002 Q45s Desert Platinum

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    I am SO confused. I still haven't digested the new naming convention, so all the QX numbers go right over my head. So they're dropping the old "FX"? And replacing it by upsizing the QX50? Isn't that a mid-size SUV? Won't that compete with the QX 60?

    As far as basing it on the Murano, I wonder if that platform can accept a conventional transmission (transaxle)?

    I personally think the focus on rear-wheel drive vs front-wheel drive is a play to a small (and getting smaller all the time) group of "enthusiasts" who think power absolutely has to be sent to the rear wheels. 98% of people who drive a given car couldn't tell you which wheels are being driven, and couldn't care less. Front-drive car technology has gotten so good that FWD cars handle as well as RWD and deliver superior packaging, wet/snow traction and fuel efficiency. They're not well-suited for high-performance applications, but that's also a small part of the market.

    We'll just have to wait and see what Infiniti does.
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    The naming conventions are NOT that difficult. Yes it's the former FX they're dropping.

    But what is considered a compact, midsize or full size SUV is confusing in general, not because of Infiniti. I thought the QX50 along with the GLC, X3, Q5, etc. were all considered compact... but I guess that's not the case? They're considered mid sized now? The X5 and GLE don't offer third row seating and are smaller than the Q7, QX60, XC90 and MDX, so are these considered fullsize or midsize. Then you have something like the RX that's not quite as upscale as the X5 and GLE. What size does the F-Pace rank as?

    So yea, there is just a conglomeration of SUVs that everyone is throwing out there to grab the sales and it's pretty confusing to figure out what to compare to what.

    In all honesty, I think with the absence of the QX70, Infiniti will have the most practical Luxury CUV/SUV lineup.

    QX30 = Compact
    QX50 = Mid-Size
    QX60 = Full-Size
    QX80 = Behemoth Flagship Full-Size with Towing Capabilities
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    Former: 2007 Nissan Altima 3.5SE Sedan 6MT [Totaled :( ]
    Current: 2013 Infiniti G37S 6MT Sedan

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike_TX View Post
    I am SO confused. I still haven't digested the new naming convention, so all the QX numbers go right over my head. So they're dropping the old "FX"? And replacing it by upsizing the QX50? Isn't that a mid-size SUV? Won't that compete with the QX 60?

    As far as basing it on the Murano, I wonder if that platform can accept a conventional transmission (transaxle)?

    I personally think the focus on rear-wheel drive vs front-wheel drive is a play to a small (and getting smaller all the time) group of "enthusiasts" who think power absolutely has to be sent to the rear wheels. 98% of people who drive a given car couldn't tell you which wheels are being driven, and couldn't care less. Front-drive car technology has gotten so good that FWD cars handle as well as RWD and deliver superior packaging, wet/snow traction and fuel efficiency. They're not well-suited for high-performance applications, but that's also a small part of the market.

    We'll just have to wait and see what Infiniti does.

    I would agree with the FWD vs RWD argument in some segments but not this one. The FX was geared towards an enthusiasts/performance oriented demographic, they will get the word and notice the difference if the next one is FWD based and they're not gonna like it. Not really sure what the benefit of the switch to FWD would be. Wouldnt economies of scale expand on the FM platform with a new QX70/FX or are they planning on turning into acura and making all the cars FWD based? If the next one is FWD it will be the laughing stock of the segment.
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    I was soo ticked off when I heard they were going to use Murano based replacement. That just took my confidence away on the platforms future. Right now I'm look on autotrader, trying to start looking for an FX50 since they're going to be like the rhinos, endangered.
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    I think it's important to remember that we are car enthusiasts, and most people these days are not. So, while it might enrage some of us that Infiniti does this or doesn't do that, most buyers are unfazed. And I'm talking the vast majority of them. They're more interested in what colors are available and how the leather smells.

    And just like most people don't know front wheel drive from rear-wheel drive, or all-wheel drive, or 4-wheel drive, Infiniti could move to a FWD platform and not ruffle but a few feathers in the process. In fact, they could probably market it as a big new feature and actually gain sales. And if going FWD on the QX70 will help Infiniti with CAFE standards or cost control, or whatever, they will certainly do it (just look at Nissan and the CVT).

    Yes, it will shock a relatively few enthusiasts and make some of them mad, but it won't even make a ripple in Infiniti's pond. Buyers these days tend to move from one brand to another more than in the past, so today's Infiniti buyer may well be tomorrow's BMW, Audi or Lexus buyer anyway.
    If someone blows up a school with a bomb they go after the bomber ... if someone shoots up a school they go after the gun.

    A privilege is just a right that has been taken away by government.

    Political correctness is cowardice wrapped in a lie.
    ________________________________

    2013 Acura RDX Tech, 30% tints, hardwired Escort 8500 X50

    2011 Infiniti M56, 30% ceramic tint, hard-wired Escort 8500 X50, LED cabin and trunk lighting - traded!


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    But what if they came up with a comparison app. Wouldn't they then be so much wiser if there phone told them what to buy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Indemand View Post
    But what if they came up with a comparison app. Wouldn't they then be so much wiser if there phone told them what to buy?
    Or post it on Facebook & get 1M 3rd world types to 'like' it ..................
    2016 Challenger Hellcat, Max Steel/Blk - A8 trans, Navi, C Fiber Stripes
    2018 Durango R/T, Vice White/Blk, Tow, Blacktop pkg, Perf Tires
    2017 Honda Accord Touring V6, Basque Red Pearl/Ivory

    GONE:
    2003.5 G35s Caribbean Blue - Prem, Wood, Spoiler
    2009 G37 Vert Athens Blue/Bone - Prem, Sport, Nav
    2016 Mustang GT Prem, Guard/Ebony - Roush SC +++ ** Lmn Law 1200 mi
    2009 M45s Obsidian/Graphite - Sport, Tech, Adv Tech, Wood, Spoiler
    2007 Titan LE Crew Deep Water Blue
    2002 Q45s Desert Platinum

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeD View Post
    Or post it on Facebook & get 1M 3rd world types to 'like' it ..................
    Yeah, that's the answer - crowd-sourced car buying decisions. Yeah, that's the ticket.
    If someone blows up a school with a bomb they go after the bomber ... if someone shoots up a school they go after the gun.

    A privilege is just a right that has been taken away by government.

    Political correctness is cowardice wrapped in a lie.
    ________________________________

    2013 Acura RDX Tech, 30% tints, hardwired Escort 8500 X50

    2011 Infiniti M56, 30% ceramic tint, hard-wired Escort 8500 X50, LED cabin and trunk lighting - traded!


  13. #13
    Quote Originally Posted by Mike_TX View Post
    Yeah, that's the answer - crowd-sourced car buying decisions. Yeah, that's the ticket.
    I would never accept the crowd-sourced recommendation, I'd much rather take Siri's word for it ........................
    2016 Challenger Hellcat, Max Steel/Blk - A8 trans, Navi, C Fiber Stripes
    2018 Durango R/T, Vice White/Blk, Tow, Blacktop pkg, Perf Tires
    2017 Honda Accord Touring V6, Basque Red Pearl/Ivory

    GONE:
    2003.5 G35s Caribbean Blue - Prem, Wood, Spoiler
    2009 G37 Vert Athens Blue/Bone - Prem, Sport, Nav
    2016 Mustang GT Prem, Guard/Ebony - Roush SC +++ ** Lmn Law 1200 mi
    2009 M45s Obsidian/Graphite - Sport, Tech, Adv Tech, Wood, Spoiler
    2007 Titan LE Crew Deep Water Blue
    2002 Q45s Desert Platinum

  14. #14
    Quote Originally Posted by MikeD View Post
    I would never accept the crowd-sourced recommendation, I'd much rather take Siri's word for it ........................
    Siri works for Consumer Report's Auto Testing Division, doesn't she?
    If someone blows up a school with a bomb they go after the bomber ... if someone shoots up a school they go after the gun.

    A privilege is just a right that has been taken away by government.

    Political correctness is cowardice wrapped in a lie.
    ________________________________

    2013 Acura RDX Tech, 30% tints, hardwired Escort 8500 X50

    2011 Infiniti M56, 30% ceramic tint, hard-wired Escort 8500 X50, LED cabin and trunk lighting - traded!


  15. #15
    Quote Originally Posted by Mike_TX View Post
    Siri works for Consumer Report's Auto Testing Division, doesn't she?
    And moonlights for the NHTSA, so you know her picks are good & safe too !
    2016 Challenger Hellcat, Max Steel/Blk - A8 trans, Navi, C Fiber Stripes
    2018 Durango R/T, Vice White/Blk, Tow, Blacktop pkg, Perf Tires
    2017 Honda Accord Touring V6, Basque Red Pearl/Ivory

    GONE:
    2003.5 G35s Caribbean Blue - Prem, Wood, Spoiler
    2009 G37 Vert Athens Blue/Bone - Prem, Sport, Nav
    2016 Mustang GT Prem, Guard/Ebony - Roush SC +++ ** Lmn Law 1200 mi
    2009 M45s Obsidian/Graphite - Sport, Tech, Adv Tech, Wood, Spoiler
    2007 Titan LE Crew Deep Water Blue
    2002 Q45s Desert Platinum

  16. #16
    Quote Originally Posted by Mike_TX View Post
    Yeah, that's the answer - crowd-sourced car buying decisions. Yeah, that's the ticket.
    Lovitz fan I take it? I wish he stayed on SNL.

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