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  1. #61
    Quote Originally Posted by palmerwmd View Post
    Niss and Jay:
    Thanks for the input.
    There seems to be some confusion on this issue and my search foo has failed me.

    Niss where did u each find your respective answers?
    Straight from Nissanusa.com under the capacities in the specs section.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NissLover View Post
    Straight from Nissanusa.com under the capacities in the specs section.
    I

    Just went there and u are correct Sir
    Somehow kept missing it ( or thy just populated some details recently?)
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  3. #63
    Quote Originally Posted by palmerwmd View Post
    I

    Just went there and u are correct Sir
    Somehow kept missing it ( or thy just populated some details recently?)
    Maybe so... kinda of a bummer the tank smaller. Thats one thing I loved about my Altima and currently my G37, I can kinda calculate my fuel economy on the fly since its a nice rounded number. If I've driven around 200 miles and at half a take I can guesstimate that I'm getting 19-20 mpg. BUT doesn't matter to me because I can still do that in my car hahaha.
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  4. #64
    Consumer Reports kind of panned the new Altima in a first-drive review. They said that it was improved, but not enough to stand out. Their text claimed that it drove essentially the same as the last generation, and they had the same exact complaints (plush ride over nicer surfaces gets crashy on rough roads, steering is slow, mushy and lacks feedback, base 2.5 is slow, handling is secure but unremarkable). I'm not sure how credible this all is and it is worth noting that they have absolutely destroyed recent Nissan/Infiniti products (sometimes justifiably) in their road test reviews. The Q50 3.0t, Rogue and Maxima are the only ones I recall them giving a good score to (something in the high-70s or above).

    I have seen conflicting reports as to whether this is on a new chassis. One review said it's still the D-platform which is now 12 years old. Others have claimed it's as "all-new" as the engines. The CR review made me wince a little bit because, if that's an accurate description of this car's road manners, it sure sounds like the old D to me. And Nissan is known for ridiculous stretching of dated platforms like no other (they have surpassed even Toyota, king of the 20-year-old Camry bones, now that they have moved on to TNGA).

    There was mention of the Camry and Accord having better steering, handling, and rides over broken pavement. I've only driven the Camry so far-- a 4-cylinder SE-- and I have to say that it is worlds better in all situations than the last-generation Altima. And the steering in particular is even better than the hydraulic steering in my 3rd gen; not sure how they managed to make it so heavy and full of road feel, but they did!

    I gotta say that I'm worried Nissan mailed it in yet again where it counts. Atlima sales have been decimated lately, while Accord is seeing more modest declines and the Camry is holding on to the previous generation's blistering pace (deservedly so!). Let's hope the 6th gen Alty is reliable, at least.

  5. #65
    As the owner of a '17 Accord (top of the line Touring edition), I can attest if the Altima is being rated below the Honda it is truly a sad day !
    Even my wife calls the car an 'appliance' and she is not exactly an enthusiast driver. Steering is numb, ride is soft & quiet but hardly engaging and even with the V6 it's no speed demon. I'm sure it's well built (tho not as well done as our old one that was actually made in Japan) and it has all the electronic toys (too many IMO) but yet is uninspiring & a bore to drive. We both wish we had snapped up the last of the old school G37's when they were closing them out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeD View Post
    As the owner of a '17 Accord (top of the line Touring edition), I can attest if the Altima is being rated below the Honda it is truly a sad day !
    Even my wife calls the car an 'appliance' and she is not exactly an enthusiast driver. Steering is numb, ride is soft & quiet but hardly engaging and even with the V6 it's no speed demon. I'm sure it's well built (tho not as well done as our old one that was actually made in Japan) and it has all the electronic toys (too many IMO) but yet is uninspiring & a bore to drive. We both wish we had snapped up the last of the old school G37's when they were closing them out.
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    Hellcat drivers are not allowed to criticize other cars for not being speed demons.
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  8. #68
    The 1st altima tested on caranddriver with the v6 is slightly slower to 60 than the 1st instument test of the new turbo model. Apparently it can go over 140 also. The 30-50 and 50-70 mph times can be attributes to the platinum not having paddle shifters so not being able to lock it in the correct ratio plus the varying compression might give it the slower time. Gas increased by 3mpg. 0.91g on all seasons!

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    Very close
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  10. #70
    Just about to read the article. The headline already lets me know it's pretty positive, which is EXTREMELY surprising coming from C&D.

    But it seems that for the most part the VC-Turbo gives up in very little compared to the VQ. Also note the VC-Turbo is actually over 100lbs heavier than the old Altima with the VQ. So it's probably more stout overall.

    EDIT: Read the article. Damn good showing for Nissan! They gave a very positive review of it. And the general consensus on the VC-Turbo seems very positive. I have heard different people say "it's a gem", and this article seems no different.

    I also "saw" my first new Altima on the road, although I didn't see much of it. It was going the opposite direction and was mostly blocked by the concrete median. All I could see was a sliver of the head and tail lights. I also caught a glimpse of a truckload of them going in the opposite direction, again not being able to see much of it.
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  11. #71
    I was VERY pleasantly surprised by how positive Car and Driver's recently posted instrumented test of the VC-Turbo Platinum was. They thoroughly enjoyed the car, going as far to say, as Niss mentioned, that even the CVT doesn't spoil the car's inherent goodness. Reviews are very mixed on this car, though the only negative one by far is the Consumer Reports first drive... again, take CR's tests with a grain of salt. Nissan killed their dog or something going by their recent road tests-- not to be confused with the reliability survey which is credible and accurate to the ownership experiences of myself, my friends and my family.

    So that leaves two overwhelmingly positive reviews that I've seen thus far: Car and Driver and Alex on Autos. Fortunately, I hold both sources in high esteem-- especially Alex. Both reviews stated that the Altima is not only a huge improvement over its predecessor, but is very competitive with the best in the class. The leaders are typically mentioned as the Accord, Mazda6, and the much-improved new Camry. Car and Driver seems nearly as impressed with the Altima 2.0T as they are with the Accord 2.0T, and that is MASSIVE praise coming from them with their decades-long Accord bias. They kept comparing the car to the Accord, and favorably at that. If they felt it was a "meh" entry in the segment, as most other reviews seem to be pushing in their narratives, they would not constantly compare it to their BFF from Honda.

    As rennie said, 0.91g for the Platinum VC-Turbo (not even the SR which would be even better) is an insanely good skidpad showing. Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe that does match the current Q60 Red Sport and bests by a couple tenths the Q50 S as well as the old G37 S.

    Car and Driver link here.

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    Loving the numbers from both gens.. and it does appear the VC Turbo is a worthy successor to the VQ
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  13. #73
    Stating maximum capability is one thing, on a track. But all these cars with electric steering have such a learning curve for the car's performance it's hard to judge. At the same time though I agree, these are great numbers.

  14. #74
    I don't know if Nissan is just doing a good job of stocking this thing for the launch, but I have seen a good 4 of these out on the road since this Monday I believe. Always going in the opposite direction though, so I can't get a good look at them or get a good impression of it's presence. The last one I saw, the grille is what caught my attention. I can't ever recall seeing that many of a barely launched car.

    On another note, the Altima was included in MT Car of the Year competition. They raped the car. Complete 180 from C&Ds review. They didn't shy away from alluding to the rental stigma. And THIS is why I take these reviews with a grain of salt. For there to be such a discrepancy from one test to the other blows my mind. One says (C&D) "The Altima sticks comfortably even on the most cratered of southern Michigan's roads, the suspension vectoring it ably through bends without a commensurate penalty in ride quality." and the other says "the suspension's impact harshness is deplorable" calls the chassis "lifeless" and so on. Was the same car tested? (I literally think it was the same press car. Red Edition One.) These are no longer unbiased reviews to inform readers, but complete opinion fests. That's why I like people like Alex on Autos more so than these mags of yore.
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  15. #75
    So went to the dealer today to take a look at the Altima. NICE! It is very taut and sporty in person. Didn't even mind the base model with the hubcaps... which I was surprised to see 3-4 of on the lot. And the interior is VERY nice as well. But you can see the cost cutting in the back doors which are all hard plastic and the front seat back covers are slightly looser than I would expect. But the leather was pretty darn soft for an Altima. Even with those two dings, I'd still rate if very nice. I intentionally pressed and pulled on the places that one of the reviews said were loose and they were fine in the car I sat in.

    They had about 12-15 on the lot. But oddly there were no SRs.

    And after leaving the dealer I saw 2 more parked in the wild! Crazy!
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  16. #76
    I saw that MT "review" Niss, and was going to post about it. Thanks for adding a summary. It's par for the course with Motortrend, who seem to be in a competition with the Consumer Reports road testers for President of the Nissan-Haters' Club. That said, MT's negativity and lack of objective reviews for Nissan and Infiniti goes way farther back. CR still had the Altima, G, and M ranked highest in their classes back in 2012. Motortrend has been writing off everything Nissan as a POS since 2009. Few may remember, but they were saying that the Infiniti M35x drove no better than an Avalon in a 2009 comparison test (lol?) and they claimed that the VQ37 in the G37 was too harsh for a luxury car (meanwhile Car and Driver said "The VQ is smooth again!" and GM was taking apart VQs and benchmarking it for its current generation of 3.6-liter V6s!).

    Motortrend is trash.

    The press as a whole does have it in for Nissan, but I just wish that Nissan wouldn't give it so many reasons to continue to push this narrative (CVTs, the Versa and Sentra generally sucking, Infinitis falling out of competitiveness, etc).

    I'm glad to hear that the build quality issues from that September review in Autoguide were addressed. I was disappointed to read that they let the hard plastic trolls hit the rear door panels, but it was inevitable with Honda and Toyota doing and and next to no damn person complaining about it.

    The Altima and Maxima are, I think, the two best-engineered overall cars that Nissan has produced (including the Infiniti line) in recent years. If they had a decent 8-speed automatic over a CVT, they would be something I'd consider over an Infiniti sedan. However, I just cannot go into CVT world. I'll root for those two models from afar. I hope I don't ever end up buying a Camry, because the new one actually is pretty nice even up against the Altima. That's the first time that has happened since 2001. :D
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    Also they tested a 2.5 awd altima and it did a 7.4 0-60 and 15.6 at over 90 mph but it slow? The fwd should b lighter and quicker. What type of fuel do they have there for these cars because the VC turbo will slower in this test not by a crazy amount but it was slower then the 5.9 seconds from the other test it went to 6.1 in the Trap speeds were about 1.5 miles per hour slower or so. They also tested to Acura RDX and that got to 60 and 7 Seconds which was slower than the Infiniti qx50. As far as I know the RDX was a 6.5 second car or less. What that time for the 2.5 that would make it quicker than the Camry and Accord I think I have to look it up though I did not look it up so correct me if I'm wrong. They better be saying the accord is slow also. They also said that the doors sound tinny. I went to the dealership this morning and slam the doors just to see how they sounded and they sounded rock-solid. I don't get what's going on! I do hate that the back door materials are hard plastic compared to my 2016 Altima. I also don't like that black plastic that's around the gearlever and cup holder areas it looks a little cheap compared to the blue and black that I have on my SL Altima. I was only able to see the SV and Sr Altima. I do like that the SR Altima gives you a leather top Dash above the gauges and where your knees rest but I think that the SV did not have a leather top Dash

  18. #78
    Quote Originally Posted by rennie4 View Post
    Also they tested a 2.5 awd altima and it did a 7.4 0-60 and 15.6 at over 90 mph but it slow? The fwd should b lighter and quicker. What type of fuel do they have there for these cars because the VC turbo will slower in this test not by a crazy amount but it was slower then the 5.9 seconds from the other test it went to 6.1 in the Trap speeds were about 1.5 miles per hour slower or so. They also tested to Acura RDX and that got to 60 and 7 Seconds which was slower than the Infiniti qx50. As far as I know the RDX was a 6.5 second car or less. What that time for the 2.5 that would make it quicker than the Camry and Accord I think I have to look it up though I did not look it up so correct me if I'm wrong. They better be saying the accord is slow also. They also said that the doors sound tinny. I went to the dealership this morning and slam the doors just to see how they sounded and they sounded rock-solid. I don't get what's going on! I do hate that the back door materials are hard plastic compared to my 2016 Altima. I also don't like that black plastic that's around the gearlever and cup holder areas it looks a little cheap compared to the blue and black that I have on my SL Altima. I was only able to see the SV and Sr Altima. I do like that the SR Altima gives you a leather top Dash above the gauges and where your knees rest but I think that the SV did not have a leather top Dash
    I did the EXACT same thing with the doors when I looked at it yesterday! Lol. They sounded and felt solid from the inside and outside. So I don't get that at all. I did the whole yank and let go of the handles to see how that sounded and they didn't have that tinny sound. I did take a moment to look at the black plastic on the center console, but I didn't hate it. I think it's appropriate for the location and will hold up better in the long term. Something shiny right there will look bad in a couple of years when theres scratches and swirls all over the place. So I don't mind that. I do think the Edition One has piano black there instead.
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  19. #79
    Quote Originally Posted by NissLover View Post
    I did the EXACT same thing with the doors when I looked at it yesterday! Lol. They sounded and felt solid from the inside and outside. So I don't get that at all. I did the whole yank and let go of the handles to see how that sounded and they didn't have that tinny sound. I did take a moment to look at the black plastic on the center console, but I didn't hate it. I think it's appropriate for the location and will hold up better in the long term. Something shiny right there will look bad in a couple of years when theres scratches and swirls all over the place. So I don't mind that. I do think the Edition One has piano black there instead.
    For what it's worth, one of the long-time posters on a famous Lexus forum said his friend just got the new Altima, and that the doors felt "like a tank" to him. He had generally positive impressions of the car, and as one might guess, those guys tend to be very critical of build quality, fit-and-finish, and interior quietness. Lexus tends to excel in those areas (except in the IS, which has always been a bit crappy, if I'm putting it nicely ).

    I really don't know what the problem is with MT. Their reviews of Nissans and Infinitis can always be counted on to be twice as harsh as the next most-negative review. Bribes come to mind, and perhaps Nissan corporate flipped them the bird as journalists once or twice, who knows? They clearly are the least objective reviewers of these cars out there.

    My conspiracy theory sense is tingling. They loved the 2018 Camry until they compared it to the Accord, and suddenly the Camry was crap to them lol. I can say from first-hand experience that the Camry drives very similarly to the Mazda6, so there is no way that the Accord (I've yet to sample it) can be THAT much better. And the Camry definitely has nicer interior materials, but MT claimed otherwise. So I'm thinking maybe Honda sent them some big money sombreros.

  20. #80
    Cars.com dealer review of 03 cars the court came in first the Camry came in third the Altima and 2nd. They actually liked the engine and transmission better than the court the combination of the two together they said was more responsive. They liked in cord interior a little better and felt like the Altima had a little bit cheap interior though they did say that the Altamont gets better when you get in the Hyatt rims which it does the SV trim has plastic by your knees but the SR has leather as well as the SL and platinum editions I believe and lower on the dash it's hard in the SV but soft in the other models. They tested a Camry XLE in this one LOL.

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