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    What happened? 28% decrease in sales

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...nd-rogue-slump

    10k Altimas for the month. I bet the Fusion even beat that.
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    It did, it moved over 12k.

    But that sales report was a complete blood bath! Literally EVERYTHING tanked. An exec was quoted saying that retail sales declined and they also pulled back on fleet (seems all fleet). I'm thinking this goes back to what the new CEO said he was going to do, stop chasing volume. April was the first month of the new fiscal year, so I guess that plan hit in full effect. Though I feel it is smart for the long term for business, I think they should have at least decreased their volume chasing antics gradually. This just looks HORRIBLE!
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    Quote Originally Posted by NissLover View Post
    It did, it moved over 12k.

    But that sales report was a complete blood bath! Literally EVERYTHING tanked. An exec was quoted saying that retail sales declined and they also pulled back on fleet (seems all fleet). I'm thinking this goes back to what the new CEO said he was going to do, stop chasing volume. April was the first month of the new fiscal year, so I guess that plan hit in full effect. Though I feel it is smart for the long term for business, I think they should have at least decreased their volume chasing antics gradually. This just looks HORRIBLE!
    Wonder how Carlos feels about that right now.
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    1981 280ZX Turbo, (failed inspection, back in drydock, HELP!!!)
    2012 G37S 6MT Black on Black.
    2013 Pathfinder Platinum Premium
    Previously Owned:

    2006 G35 6MT Black on Black.(Sold)
    2009 Murano SL (Sold)
    2004 Armada SE 4X4 (Sold)
    2000 Maxima SE 5 Speed(Sold)
    1997 Hardbody 5 Speed (Sold)
    1982 200SX 5 speed(Sold)
    1981 200SX 5 speed (Sold)
    Other Cars:
    2000 Toyota Tundra
    1995 5 speed Dodge Neon
    1981 Chevy Chevette
    1972 Buick Century

  4. #4
    I'm sure he has an eye on things and is allowing a short leash for things to pan out.
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    Frankly, I don't "get" the current SUV/CUV craze. I've had 3 or 4 nice ones over the years - Lexus and Acura - and I just don't feel comfortable in them. Too boxy, tall and truck-feeling, and the gas mileage sucks. They're making some headway on the gas mileage front, but a shoebox is never going to get the kind of mileage like a sleek sedan will.

    So, for us car guys, the SUV craze is an opportunity to get a better deal on a sedan while the rest of the world is going nuts over trucks.
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    I think overall, people are looking at it from a utility and versatility standpoint. Especially now that the efficiency gap between the two are fading and gas prices are rather moderate. Should those prices rise, there will be a swing in the favor of sedans, but I don't know how huge it'll be.

    Me personally, I like to be low to the ground and appreciate the superior handling of sedans. I like to know that if I need to move and maneuver, I can. But people don't value that... But that gap is also shrinking with all of the tech out there today, as well as electric cars/SUVs that will have low COGs because of the low battery packs.

    Overall, I think people are being dramatic saying that the sedan is dead. It's shrinking, but nowhere near dead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike_TX View Post
    Frankly, I don't "get" the current SUV/CUV craze. I've had 3 or 4 nice ones over the years - Lexus and Acura - and I just don't feel comfortable in them. Too boxy, tall and truck-feeling, and the gas mileage sucks. They're making some headway on the gas mileage front, but a shoebox is never going to get the kind of mileage like a sleek sedan will.

    So, for us car guys, the SUV craze is an opportunity to get a better deal on a sedan while the rest of the world is going nuts over trucks.
    OMG Mike I love you!

    I feel the same way. Friends and family have had a myriad of Foresters, Pilots, and Lexus RX models that I have driven many times and I just don't feel anywhere near as comfortable riding OR driving in any of them as I do in a well-engineered sedan. And obviously, the fuel economy and handling suck when compared to sedans, hatchbacks, or what families really should be driving-- wagons!

    Me personally, I like to be low to the ground and appreciate the superior handling of sedans. I like to know that if I need to move and maneuver, I can.
    Also couldn't agree more with my boy NissLover here. I have never liked SUVs. I will admit that I came close to liking the Infiniti FX and BMW X5.

    As for Nissan's April performance, it could be just a single-month aberration. But I have been predicting a crash when chasing endless volume coupled with declining quality in all aspects-- from engineering to reliability-- catches up with them. It may have already. Frankly, they need to get rid of the CVTs. They have to produce some new platforms that are competitive, including a modular, RWD successor to the FM. I also wouldn't be so quick to dismiss the VQ or its immediate successor, the VR30DDTT-- increasing fuel economy standards be damned. Nissan's V6s are the only thing left of their former positive reputation. They are also the only bulletproof engines left in their current lineup, a lineup with some serious questions about long-term durability and reliability that is an embarrassment for a Japanese brand.

    If they are worried about regulatory compliance, then they should get off their butts and produce some more hybrids and plug-in cars to offset the vehicles that average sub-30 mpg. It works for Toyota and Ze Germans. Remember that there was once an Altima hybrid? There was supposed to be a Maxima diesel? Like the endless cancelled Infiniti programs, those never materialized in the outgoing generations of those nameplates. Nissan is cheap and lazy and this is just the tip of the iceberg unless they have a corporate revolution. And I don't mean one with Ghosn at the healm. He needs to become Carlos GONE!
    Last edited by JayG35; 05-05-2018 at 12:15 AM.

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    Yea, the first gen FX and possibly the second gen FX50 are the only SUVs that I actually wanted.

    Though the April sales numbers suck, it's kind of exciting to see the new CEO say forget what it looks like, volume is not the most important thing. Though VERY slightly, the average transaction price for the month increased as well as the amount spent on incentives decreased. I hope he also forces a new focus on quality and allowing good product to cause huge volume. Looking at the new Altima and QX50, I don't see cheap at all, so I'm excited about the new round of product coming around. Even though the LEAF is just a major refresh of the old, I still think its a step in the right direction, especially when the higher mileage model debuts. Also, I am still blown away by the QX50 interior and love how they are focusing on it in all of the marketing, which has been very good so far.
    Last edited by NissLover; 05-05-2018 at 11:43 AM.
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  9. #9
    Quote Originally Posted by NissLover View Post
    Yea, the first gen FX and possibly the second gen FX50 are the only SUVs that I actually wanted.

    Though the April sales numbers suck, it's kind of exciting to see the new CEO say forget what it looks like, volume is not the most important thing. Though VERY slightly, the average transaction price for the month increased as well as the amount spent on incentives decreased. I hope he also forces a new focus on quality and allowing good product to cause huge volume. Looking at the new Altima and QX50, I don't see cheap at all, so I'm excited about the new round of product coming around. Even though the LEAF is just a major refresh of the old, I still think its a step in the right direction, especially when the higher mileage model debuts. Also, I am still blown away by the QX50 interior and love how they are focusing on it in all of the marketing, which has been very good so far.
    This bodes well for the next Frontier, which I think is up next right? BTW, has anyone seen any spy photos or any news on it? It is surprising how slow this thing is taking. Hyundai will be in Nissan's sales grill very soon if they keep up the slow speed.
    Current:

    1981 280ZX Turbo, (failed inspection, back in drydock, HELP!!!)
    2012 G37S 6MT Black on Black.
    2013 Pathfinder Platinum Premium
    Previously Owned:

    2006 G35 6MT Black on Black.(Sold)
    2009 Murano SL (Sold)
    2004 Armada SE 4X4 (Sold)
    2000 Maxima SE 5 Speed(Sold)
    1997 Hardbody 5 Speed (Sold)
    1982 200SX 5 speed(Sold)
    1981 200SX 5 speed (Sold)
    Other Cars:
    2000 Toyota Tundra
    1995 5 speed Dodge Neon
    1981 Chevy Chevette
    1972 Buick Century

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