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    American Consumer lose as the Ethanol gravy train lumbers on

    https://www.cnsnews.com/commentary/paul-driessen/american-consumers-lose-ethanol-gravy-train-rolls

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    Without clicking on your links I agree. Obvious from the start ethanol wasn't made for a gas engine. Despite claims made, I've never seen the claimed fuel economy with the % of good stuff. And they forced all the manufacturers to change rubber composition. American corruption, greed, stupidity at its best. I also doubt any claim to environmental impact given other claims are false.

    I do know when I've been to a track and alcohol cars run it isn't good. Downright unhealthy.

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    As I've said before, you have to wonder when people are starving and we burn our food in our cars.

    Ethanol might be a valuable thing in an energy crisis, but for now it's not good for anyone but the politicians and a segment of the farming industry.
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    Corn syrup does not equal food. I only know it doesn't belong in a car or a human. Otherwise good stuff. I'll typewriter corn with the best of them though.

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    Well, ethanol is made from corn, which could be eaten by someone (or something, like cattle). Instead, we distill it down into a liquid and burn it in our cars.

    It's just another scheme by Washington politicians to reward corn producers for over-producing. I guess we could say that at least it's being used for something, instead of being stored in silos until it rots. But it's not an ideal fuel by any means - it has lower volumetric efficiency than gasoline and it's hygroscopic.

    We might applaud its use if we had a fuel crisis, but we don't.
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    I understand in current US climate the net energy gain from corn to Ethanol equals zero or is perhaps even negative.
    Brasil can do it because they do it from sugarcane (=more efficient) and can get 3 harvests a year (= extra more efficient)
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    So let's vote for not corn. Let's vote period. We keep getting told to matter we must vote. I just have no idea for what or whom I may be voting for. Minimal choices without change. Can I still for vote for MikeD or has he moved on?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Indemand View Post
    So let's vote for not corn. Let's vote period. We keep getting told to matter we must vote. I just have no idea for what or whom I may be voting for. Minimal choices without change. Can I still for vote for MikeD or has he moved on?
    Still here, but Norton Safe Web still thinks this site has 1280 viruses & makes it next to impossible for me to get on here. I can't just disable it for 1 site & it's saved my backside too many times to just kill it period !

    But I do agree on the corn - yet another scam perpetrated by the Gvt (via the EPA) to push their agenda. Here in FL they forced the state to adopt ethanol else we would have had to implement mandatory annual smog testing, even tho there are virtually no smog issues here (even in the big cities) due to the state being narrow & flat, so the sea breezes on both sides literately blow the stuff away !

    I say keep the corn on the cob until dinner time
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    ^ U S A! U S A! U S A! MikeD for President All the Way!
    If someone blows up a school with a bomb they go after the bomber ... if someone shoots up a school they go after the gun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeD View Post
    I say keep the corn on the cob until dinner time
    The Great Cornholio agrees with you!
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